## Avodah Zarah Daf 32a

###### Avodah Zarah 32a:1
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הַאי חַלָּא דְּשִׁיכְרָא דַּאֲרַמָּאָה אָסוּר, דִּמְעָרְבִי בֵּיהּ דּוּרְדְּיָא דְּיֵין נֶסֶךְ. אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: וּמֵאוֹצָר שְׁרֵי, כֵּיוָן דִּמְעָרְבִי בֵּיהּ מִסְרָא סְרֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**This vinegar** made **of Aramean beer is prohibited, as they mix in it yeast of wine** used for **a libation. Rav Ashi said: But** vinegar **from a storeroom is permitted, since** if another substance is **mixed with it, it would spoil** over time.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:2
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וָחֶרֶס הַדְרְיָינִי. מַאי הַדְרְיָינִי? אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: חֶרֶס שֶׁל הַדְרְיָינוּס קֵיסָר. כִּי אֲתָא רַב דִּימִי אָמַר: קַרְקַע בְּתוּלָה הָיְתָה שֶׁלֹּא עֲבָדָהּ אָדָם מֵעוֹלָם, עֲבָדָהּ וּנְטָעָהּ, וְרָמֵי לֵיהּ לְחַמְרָא בְּגוּלְפֵי חִיוָּרֵי, וּמָיְיצִי לְהוּ לְחַמְרַיְיהוּ, וּמְתַבְּרוּ לְהוּ בְּחַסְפֵי וְדָרוּ בַּהֲדַיְיהוּ, וְכֹל הֵיכָא דְּמָטוּ תָּרוּ לְהוּ וְשָׁתוּ. אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי: וְרִאשׁוֹן שֶׁלָּנוּ כִּשְׁלִישִׁי שֶׁלָּהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **And Hadrianic earthenware** is prohibited. The Gemara asks: **What is Hadrianic** earthenware? **Rav Yehuda says that Shmuel says:** It is **earthenware of Emperor Hadrian. When Rav Dimi came, he said: There was** an expanse of **virgin soil that no man** had **ever tilled** before, and Hadrian **tilled it and planted** grapevines in **it,** which yielded wine of the highest quality. **And** they **placed** this **wine in white jugs, and** the jugs **absorbed the wine. And they** would **break** the jugs into **shards and carry** the shards **with them, and anywhere that they stopped, they soaked** these shards in water **and drank** the water. The Gemara notes that **Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi says: And our first-**rate wine **is like** the wine produced by the **third** usage of **their** Hadrianic earthenware.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:3
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אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: מַהוּ לִסְמוֹךְ בָּהֶן כַּרְעֵי הַמִּטָּה? רוֹצֶה בְּקִיּוּמוֹ עַל יְדֵי דָּבָר אַחֵר — שְׁרֵי אוֹ אָסוּר?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**A dilemma was raised before** the Sages: **What is** the *halakha* if one wishes to use such shards **to support the legs of a bed with them?** Is one who **desires** a prohibited item’s continued **existence** in order **to** use it for **another matter,** i.e., not for the prohibited purpose, **permitted** to use it **or prohibited** from doing so? In this case, no benefit whatsoever is derived from the wine absorbed within the shards, but the shards themselves are being used to support the bed.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:4
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תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: חַד אָסַר וְחַד שָׁרֵי, וְהִלְכְתָא כְּמַאן דְּאָסַר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** a resolution to the dilemma, **as Rabbi Elazar and Rabbi Yoḥanan** engaged in a dispute in this case: **One prohibited** using the shards in such a fashion, **and one permitted** this practice. The Gemara adds: **And the *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion of the Sage **who prohibited** it.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:5
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מֵיתִיבִי: הַדַּרְדּוּרִין וְהָרוּקְבָּאוֹת שֶׁל גּוֹיִם, יַיִן שֶׁל יִשְׂרָאֵל כָּנוּס בָּהֶן — אָסוּר בִּשְׁתִיָּה וּמוּתָּר בַּהֲנָאָה. הֵעִיד שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גּוּדָּא לִפְנֵי בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל עַל רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, שֶׁשָּׁתָה מִמֶּנּוּ בְּעַכּוֹ, וְלֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection** from a *baraita* to the Sage who deems it permitted: With regard to **the jugs [*dardurin*] and flagons [*rokva’ot*] of gentiles** that have **a Jew’s wine contained in them,** one is **prohibited from drinking** the wine, **but** one is **permitted to** derive **benefit** from it. The Gemara notes that **Shimon ben Guda testified before the son of Rabban Gamliel with regard to Rabban Gamliel that he drank from it in Akko, but** the Sages **did not concede to** the ramifications of his testimony.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:6
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נוֹדוֹת שֶׁל גּוֹיִם — רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קַפּוֹסַאי: אָסוּר לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן שְׁטִיחִין לַחֲמוֹר, וְהָא הָכָא דְּרוֹצֶה בְּקִיּוּמוֹ עַל יְדֵי דָּבָר אַחֵר, וְקָתָנֵי דְּאָסוּר!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Concerning **wineskins** that **belong to gentiles, Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says in the name of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Kefusai:** It is **prohibited to fashion from them** items such as **blankets to** cover **a donkey,** as one derives benefit from them. The Gemara explains the objection: **And here,** in the case of wineskins used as donkey covers, **he desires its** continued **existence for another matter, and** yet the *baraita* **teaches that** it is **prohibited** to use it for this purpose.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:7
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וְלִיטַעְמָיךְ, קַנְקַנִּים שֶׁל גּוֹיִם לִיתַּסְרוּ לְמִיזְבַּן! מַאי שְׁנָא נוֹדוֹת וּמַאי שְׁנָא קַנְקַנִּים? אָמַר רָבָא: גְּזֵירָה שֶׁמָּא יִבָּקַע נוֹדוֹ וְיִטְּלֶנּוּ וְיִתְפְּרֶנּוּ עַל גַּבֵּי נוֹדוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara retorts: **And according to your reasoning, it should be prohibited to sell jugs belonging to gentiles,** and yet Jews sell them frequently; **what is different** about **wineskins,** from which one may not derive indirect benefit, **and what is different** about **jugs,** which may be sold for indirect benefit? The Gemara answers that **Rava says:** There is a rabbinic **decree** that one may not sell wineskins of gentiles **lest his** own **wineskin break** open, **and** to repair it **he would take** the gentile’s wineskin **and sew it onto his wineskin.** This would cause the wine absorbed in the gentile’s wineskin to mix with the wine of the Jew and render it forbidden.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:8
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וּלְמַאן דְּאָמַר רוֹצֶה בְּקִיּוּמוֹ עַל יְדֵי דָּבָר אַחֵר אָסוּר, מַאי שְׁנָא קַנְקַנִּים דִּשְׁרוּ? אָמַר לָךְ: הָתָם לֵיתֵיהּ לְאִיסּוּרֵיהּ בְּעֵינֵיהּ, הָכָא אִיתֵיהּ לְאִיסּוּרֵיהּ בְּעֵינֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And according to the one who says** that someone who **desires** the continued **existence of** a prohibited item **for another matter is prohibited** from using the item in this way, **what is different** about **jugs that** purchasing them is **permitted?** The Gemara explains that this Sage could have **said to you: There,** with regard to the jugs, **there is no substantive prohibited** entity, whereas **here,** in the case of Hadrianic earthenware, **there is a substantive prohibited** entity, as the wine is recognizable in the earthenware.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:9
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וְלֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ. וּרְמִינְהִי: יַיִן הַבָּא בְּרוּקְבָּאוֹת שֶׁל גּוֹיִם אָסוּר בִּשְׁתִיָּה וּמוּתָּר בַּהֲנָאָה, הֵעִיד שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גּוּדָּע לִפְנֵי בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל עַל רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל שֶׁשָּׁתָה מִמֶּנּוּ בְּעַכּוֹ, וְהוֹדוּ לוֹ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ It was stated that Shimon ben Guda provided testimony, **but** the Sages **did not concede** to its ramifications. **And** the Gemara **raises a contradiction:** With regard to **wine that comes in the flagons of gentiles,** one is **prohibited from drinking** the wine, **but** one is **permitted to** derive **benefit** from it. **Shimon ben Guda testified before the son of Rabban Gamliel with regard to Rabban Gamliel that he drank from it in Akko, and they conceded to him.** This directly contradicts the episode cited above.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:10
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מַאי ״לֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ״ דְּקָאָמַר הָתָם? כׇּל סִיעָתוֹ, אֲבָל בְּנוֹ מוֹדֵי לֵיהּ. אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: גּוּדָּא לְחוֹד, וְגוּדָּע לְחוֹד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara explains: **What** is the meaning of the sentence: **But they did not concede to** the ramifications of his testimony, **which was stated there,** in the first account? The meaning is that the rest of **his entire company,** i.e., the Sages, did not concede, **but his son did concede to him. If you wish, say** instead that **Guda** with the letter *alef*, as stated in the first episode, is **discrete, and Guda** with an *ayin*, in the second account, is **discrete,** i.e., the two incidents are not referring to the same individual.


###### Avodah Zarah 32a:11
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וְעוֹרוֹת לְבוּבִין. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: אֵיזֶהוּ עוֹר לָבוּב? כָּל שֶׁקָּרוּעַ כְּנֶגֶד הַלֵּב וְקָדוּר כְּמִין אֲרוּבָּה, יֵשׁ עָלָיו קוֹרֶט דָּם — אָסוּר,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna further teaches: **And hides** with a tear opposite the **heart** are prohibited. **The Sages taught: What is** considered **a hide** with a tear opposite the **heart? Any** hide **that is torn opposite the heart and incised** in a shape **similar to an aperture,** and which **has a trace of** coagulated **blood on it,** is **prohibited.**