## Avodah Zarah Daf 33a

###### Avodah Zarah 33a:1
[Avodah Zarah 33a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:1)

דַּאֲבִיק בַּהּ, מִהְדָּר הָדַר אָזֵיל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**he will cleave to it** and **go** to worship idolatry **once again.**


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:2
[Avodah Zarah 33a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:2)

וְהָתַנְיָא: יִשְׂרָאֵל הַהוֹלֵךְ לַתַּרְפּוּת, בֵּין בַּהֲלִיכָה בֵּין בַּחֲזָרָה — אָסוּר! אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: כִּי תַּנְיָא הָהִיא בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל מְשׁוּמָּד, דְּוַדַּאי אָזֵיל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita* that with regard to **a Jew who goes to a festival of idolatry, whether** he is **on the way** there **or returning** from it, it is **prohibited** to engage in business with him? The Gemara answers that **Rav Ashi said: When that** *baraita* **is taught,** it is **in** reference to **an apostate Jew, who** will **certainly go** to the festival, and will certainly not change his mind.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:3
[Avodah Zarah 33a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:3)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: גּוֹי הַהוֹלֵךְ לְיָרִיד, בֵּין בַּהֲלִיכָה בֵּין בַּחֲזָרָה — מוּתָּר. יִשְׂרָאֵל הַהוֹלֵךְ לְיָרִיד, בַּהֲלִיכָה — מוּתָּר, בַּחֲזָרָה — אָסוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught:** With regard to **a gentile who goes to a fair,** where goods and idols are bought and sold, **whether** he is **on the way** there **or returning** from it, it is **permitted** to engage in business with him. With regard to **a Jew who goes to a fair,** when he is **on the way** there, it is **permitted** to engage in business with him, but if he is **returning** from it, it is **prohibited.**


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:4
[Avodah Zarah 33a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:4)

מַאי שְׁנָא יִשְׂרָאֵל דְּבַחֲזָרָה אָסוּר? דְּאָמְרִי: עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה זַבֵּין, דְּמֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אִיכָּא בַּהֲדֵיהּ. גּוֹי נָמֵי נֵימָא: עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה זַבֵּין, דְּמֵי עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אִיכָּא בַּהֲדֵיהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What is different** about **a Jew that** it is **prohibited** to engage in business with him when he is **returning?** The Gemara answers that this is in accordance with that **which** the Sages **say: He sold** objects of **idol worship,** and therefore **money** gained from **idol worship is in his possession.** Since the money in his possession is assumed to have been gained through objects of idolatry, it is prohibited to engage in business with the Jew. The Gemara challenges: But with regard to **a gentile, also, let us say: He sold** objects of **idol worship,** and therefore **money** gained from **idol worship is in his possession.** Why is it prohibited to do business only with the Jew?


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:5
[Avodah Zarah 33a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:5)

אֶלָּא גּוֹי, אָמְרִינַן: גְּלִימָא זַבֵּין, חַמְרָא זַבֵּין; יִשְׂרָאֵל נָמֵי נֵימָא: אֵימוֹר גְּלִימָא זַבֵּין, חַמְרָא זַבֵּין! אִי אִיתָא דַּהֲוָה לֵיהּ הָכָא, הֲוָה מְזַבֵּין לֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Rather,** with regard to **a gentile, we say: He sold clothing** or **he sold wine,** but not idols. The Gemara questions this: Then with regard to **a Jew, also, let us say:** One should **say** that **he sold clothing** or **he sold wine,** but not idols. The Gemara explains: **If he had** only wine or clothing to sell, **he would have sold** them **here** instead of going to the fair. The fact that he exerted himself to travel to a fair of gentiles indicates that he intended to sell idols.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:6
[Avodah Zarah 33a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:6)

וְהַבָּאִין מוּתָּרִין. אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא שֶׁאֵין קְשׁוּרִין זֶה בָּזֶה, אֲבָל קְשׁוּרִין זֶה בָּזֶה — אֲסוּרִין, אֵימָא דַּעְתּוֹ לַחְזוֹר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **And** with regard to **those who are coming** from a festival of idolatry, it is **permitted** to engage with them in business. **Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says:** The Sages **taught** this **only** with regard to a case **where** those returning **are not attached to one another,** i.e., they are not traveling in groups. **But** where **they are attached to one another** it is **prohibited** to engage in business with them, as **I say:** The gentile **intends to return** to the festival with his companions.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:7
[Avodah Zarah 33a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:7)

נוֹדוֹת הַגּוֹיִם וְקַנְקַנֵּיהֶם. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: נוֹדוֹת הַגּוֹיִם, גְּרוּדִים חֲדָשִׁים — מוּתָּרִין, יְשָׁנִים וּמְזוּפָּפִין — אֲסוּרִין. גּוֹי רִיבְּבָן וְעִיבְּדָן וְנָתַן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן, וְיִשְׂרָאֵל עוֹמֵד עַל גַּבָּיו — אֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna further teaches: **Wineskins and jugs** that belong **to gentiles** and that have a Jew’s wine contained in them are prohibited. **The Sages taught:** With regard to **wineskins of gentiles,** if they are **stripped** and free from tar, and **new, they are permitted,** but **old and tarred** containers **are prohibited.** Nevertheless, if **a gentile pitched them [*ribbevan*] and lined them and added wine to them** to negate the flavor of the tar while **a Jew stands over him,** one need **not** be **concerned** for a prohibition.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:8
[Avodah Zarah 33a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:8)

וְכִי מֵאַחַר דְּגוֹי נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן, כִּי יִשְׂרָאֵל עוֹמֵד עַל גַּבָּיו מַאי הָוֵי? אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: הָכִי קָאָמַר — גּוֹי רִיבְּבָן וְעִיבְּדָן, וְיִשְׂרָאֵל נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן, וְיִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר עוֹמֵד עַל גַּבָּיו וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But once** we have established **that a gentile places wine in** the containers, **what of** the fact that **a Jew stands over him?** Why does this affect the *halakha*? The Gemara explains: **Rav Pappa said** that **this** is what the *baraita* **is saying:** If **a gentile pitched** the containers **and lined them, and a Jew** then **placed wine in them while another Jew stood over him,** one need **not** be **concerned** that it is prohibited.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:9
[Avodah Zarah 33a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:9)

וּמֵאַחַר דְּיִשְׂרָאֵל נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן, יִשְׂרָאֵל אַחֵר עוֹמֵד עַל גַּבָּיו לְמָה לִי? דִּלְמָא אַגַּב טִירְדֵּיהּ מְנַסֵּךְ, וְלָאו אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But since a Jew** is the one who **places wine in them, why do I** need **another Jew** to **stand over him?** The Gemara answers: It is necessary as **perhaps due to** the Jew’s **preoccupation** with pouring the wine, the gentile will manage to **libate** the wine, **and** the Jew will be **unaware** of it.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:10
[Avodah Zarah 33a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:10)

רַב זְבִיד אָמַר: לְעוֹלָם כִּדְקָאָמְרַתְּ מֵעִיקָּרָא, וְהָכָא בְּעִידָּנָא דְּקָא שָׁדֵי לֵיהּ נַעֲשֶׂה כְּזוֹרֵק מַיִם לְטִיט. אָמַר רַב פַּפֵּי: שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ מִדְּרַב זְבִיד, הַאי גּוֹי דִּשְׁדָא חַמְרָא לְבֵי מִילְחֵי דְּיִשְׂרָאֵל — שְׁרֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara presents an alternative interpretation. **Rav Zevid said: Actually,** it should be **as you initially said,** that the gentile himself pours the wine. **And here, when he pours** the wine into the container, **he is considered as one who splashes water in clay** and does not intend to use it as a libation. **Rav Pappi said: Conclude from** the statement **of Rav Zevid** that with regard to **this** incident involving **a gentile who casts wine into the salt receptacle of a Jew,** the salt is **permitted,** as the gentile has no intention of using the wine as a libation.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:11
[Avodah Zarah 33a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:11)

מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַב אָשֵׁי: מִי דָּמֵי? הָתָם קָאָזֵיל לְאִיבּוּד, הָכָא לָא קָאָזֵיל לְאִיבּוּד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Ashi objects to this: Are** the two cases **comparable? There,** with regard to the pitched container, the flavor of the wine **is going to** be **lost,** due to the tar. But **here,** in the case of the salt receptacle, the flavor of the wine **is not going to** be **lost.** Therefore there is no reason to rule that the salt is permitted.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:12
[Avodah Zarah 33a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:12)

בַּר עֲדִי טַיָּיעָא אֲנַס הָנְהוּ זִיקֵי מֵרַב יִצְחָק בַּר יוֹסֵף, רְמָא בְּהוּ חַמְרָא וְאַהְדְּרִינְהוּ נִיהֲלֵיהּ, אֲתָא שְׁאֵיל בֵּי מִדְרְשָׁא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: כָּךְ הוֹרָה רַבִּי אַמֵּי הֲלָכָה לְמַעֲשֶׂה — מְמַלְּאָן מַיִם שְׁלֹשָׁה יָמִים וּמְעָרָן. וְאָמַר רָבָא: צָרִיךְ לְעָרָן מֵעֵת לְעֵת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates a relevant incident. **Bar Adi the Arab seized certain wineskins from Rav Yitzḥak bar Yosef, placed wine in them** for an extended period of time, **and** then **returned them to him.** Rav Yitzḥak bar Yosef **came** and **asked** in **the study hall** what course of action he should take. **Rabbi Yirmeya said to him: This** is what **Rabbi Ami instructed** me to do in terms of **practical *halakha*:** One **fills** the skins with **water** for **three days,** so that the water will absorb the flavor of the wine, **and** then **pours** the water **out. And Rava says:** In addition, one **must pour out** the water in **them** every **twenty-four-hour period** and then refill them. Once this has been performed, the wineskins will be permitted.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:13
[Avodah Zarah 33a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:13)

סְבוּר מִינַּהּ: הָנֵי מִילֵּי דִּידַן, אֲבָל דִּידְהוּ — לָא. כִּי אֲתָא רָבִין אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ: אֶחָד שֶׁלָּנוּ וְאֶחָד שֶׁלָּהֶם. סְבַר רַב אַחָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרָבָא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב אָשֵׁי לְמֵימַר: הָנֵי מִילֵּי נוֹדוֹת, אֲבָל קַנְקַנִּים — לָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב אָשֵׁי: לָא שְׁנָא נוֹדוֹת וְלָא שְׁנָא קַנְקַנִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
It was **understood from** the above incident that **this matter,** i.e., that one may fill the wineskins with water for three days to render them permitted, applies only to **our** wineskins that were taken by gentiles. **But** with regard to **their** own wineskins, it does **not** apply, as they are permanently prohibited. **When Ravin came** from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, he said that **Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says: Both ours and theirs** can be rendered permitted in this manner. Similarly, **Rav Aḥa, son of Rava, thought to say before Rav Ashi: This matter** applies only to **wineskins, but not** to **jugs. Rav Ashi said to him:** There is **no difference** between **wineskins and jugs,** as both can be rendered permitted in this manner.


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:14
[Avodah Zarah 33a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:14)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: קַנְקַנִּים שֶׁל גּוֹיִם, חֲדָשִׁים גְּרוּדִים — מוּתָּרִין, יְשָׁנִים וּמְזוּפָּפִין — אֲסוּרִין. גּוֹי נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן — יִשְׂרָאֵל נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן מַיִם, גּוֹי נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן יַיִן — יִשְׂרָאֵל נוֹתֵן לְתוֹכָן צִיר וּמוּרְיָיס, וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara continues to discuss the halakhic status of various wineskins. **The Sages taught:** With regard to **wineskins of gentiles,** if they are **new** and **stripped** free from tar, **they are permitted,** but **old and tarred** containers **are prohibited.** If **a gentile places wine in them,** the **Jew** should **put water in them.** Additionally, if **a gentile places wine in them,** the **Jew may put brine and fish stew in them** immediately, **and** he need **not** be **concerned.**


###### Avodah Zarah 33a:15
[Avodah Zarah 33a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Avodah%20Zarah/r/33a:15)

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**A dilemma was raised before** the Sages: