## Avodah Zarah Daf 57b

###### Avodah Zarah 57b:1
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בַּשּׁוּק טָמֵא, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: טָהוֹר. יֵינָן — גְּדוֹלִים עוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ, קְטַנִּים אֵין עוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ. אֵלּוּ הֵן גְּדוֹלִים וְאֵלּוּ הֵן קְטַנִּים? גְּדוֹלִים — שֶׁיּוֹדְעִין בְּטִיב עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה וּמְשַׁמְּשֶׁיהָ, קְטַנִּים — שֶׁאֵין יוֹדְעִין בְּטִיב עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה וּמְשַׁמְּשֶׁיהָ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
even if they are found **in the marketplace,** are **ritually impure. But some say** that they are **ritually pure.** With regard to **their wine,** the **adults render** the wine that they touch **wine** used for **a libation,** but the **minors do not render** the wine that they touch **wine** used for **a libation. Which** slaves **are** considered **adults, and which** slaves **are** considered **minors?** The **adults** are those **who know** the **nature of idol worship and its accessories,** and the **minors** are those **who do not know** the **nature of idol worship and its accessories.**


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:2
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קָתָנֵי מִיהַת: מָלוּ וְלֹא טָבְלוּ — אִין, מָלוּ וְטָבְלוּ — לָא! תַּרְגְּמַהּ אַבְּנֵי שְׁפָחוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In any event,** the *baraita* **teaches** that with regard to those slaves who **were circumcised but did not immerse, yes,** the wine they touch is prohibited, but with regard to those who were **circumcised and immersed, no,** the wine they touch is not prohibited, even if they have not yet forgotten their idolatrous worship. The Gemara replies: **Interpret** this *halakha* as referring only **to** the **sons of maidservants** who were raised in a Jewish home and never engaged in idolatrous worship, but not to slaves who were acquired from gentiles.


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:3
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הָא ״וְכֵן״ קָתָנֵי! אַרוּקָּן וּמִדְרָסָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Doesn’t** the *baraita* **teach** that the *halakha* applies to slaves purchased from gentiles **and also** to the sons of gentile maidservants, indicating that there is no differentiation between them? The Gemara replies: The *baraita* equates the two cases only **with regard to** the impurity of **their spittle and** of the **objects upon which they tread.**


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:4
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הָנִיחָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר טָמֵא, אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר טָהוֹר, מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **This works out well according to the one who says** that their spittle and the objects upon which they tread are **impure. But according to the one who says** that they are **pure, what can be said?** If the spittle of the slaves and the objects upon which they tread are pure, clearly the same *halakha* applies in the case of the sons of maidservants, and it is unnecessary to state this. One may therefore conclude that the *baraita* equated the two cases with regard to the status of the wine that they touch.


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:5
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הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן: עֲבָדִים דֻּומְיָא דִּבְנֵי שְׁפָחוֹת, מָה בְּנֵי שְׁפָחוֹת — גְּדוֹלִים הוּא דְּעוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ, קְטַנִּים אֵין עוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ, אַף עֲבָדִים נָמֵי — גְּדוֹלִים עוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ, קְטַנִּים אֵין עוֹשִׂין יֵין נֶסֶךְ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: Even if the *baraita* equates the slaves and the sons of maidservants with regard to the status of their wine, it does not intend to compare their status once they have immersed. Rather, **this teaches us** that the *halakha* with regard to **slaves** is **similar to** the *halakha* with regard to the **sons of maidservants. Just as** in the case of the **sons of maidservants, it is** only the **adults who render** the wine that they touch **wine** used for **a libation,** but **minors do not render** the wine they touch **wine** used for **a libation, so too** in the case of **slaves,** the **adults render** the wine that they touch **wine** used for **a libation,** but **minors do not render** the wine they touch **wine** used for **a libation.**


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:6
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לְאַפּוֹקֵי מִדְּרַב, דְּאָמַר רַב: תִּינוֹק בֶּן יוֹמוֹ עוֹשֶׂה יֵין נֶסֶךְ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דְּלָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
This *halakha* is **to the exclusion of that which Rav** says, **as Rav says:** If a gentile **baby** who is **one day old** touches wine, **he renders** it **wine** used for **a libation.** The *baraita* **teaches us that** this is **not** the case.


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:7
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הָהוּא עוֹבָדָא דַּהֲוָה בְּמָחוֹזָא, אֲתָא גּוֹי עָייל לְחָנוּתָא דְּיִשְׂרָאֵל, אֲמַר לְהוּ: אִית לְכוּ חַמְרָא לְזַבּוֹנֵי? אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ: לָא. הֲוָה יָתֵיב חַמְרָא בְּדַוְולָא, שְׁדָא בֵּיהּ יְדֵיהּ שַׁיכְשֵׁךְ בֵּיהּ, אֲמַר לְהוּ: הַאי לָאו חַמְרָא הוּא? שַׁקְלֵיהּ הַאיְךְ בְּרִיתְחֵיהּ שַׁדְיֵיהּ לְדַנָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara relates: **There was a certain incident in Meḥoza** in which **a gentile came** and **entered the store of a Jew.** The gentile **said to** the owners: **Do you have** any **wine to sell? They said to him: No. There was wine sitting in a bucket.** The gentile **put his hand in it** and **stirred** the wine around. The gentile **said to them: This, is it not wine? The other** person, i.e., the storeowner, **took** the bucket and, **in his anger, threw its** contents **into a barrel** of wine.


###### Avodah Zarah 57b:8
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שַׁרְיֵיהּ רָבָא לְזַבּוֹנֵי לְגוֹיִם, אִיפְּלִיג עֲלֵיהּ רַב הוּנָא בַּר חִינָּנָא וְרַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן. נָפְקִי שִׁיפּוּרֵי דְּרָבָא וְשָׁרוּ, וְנָפְקִי שִׁיפּוּרֵי דְּרַב הוּנָא בַּר חִינָּנָא וְרַב הוּנָא בַּר רַב נַחְמָן וְאָסְרִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
This incident raised a dilemma with regard to the status of the wine in the barrel. **Rava permitted** the owner **to sell** the wine **to gentiles,** as he held that it is permitted to derive benefit from the wine. **Rav Huna bar Ḥinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naḥman, disagreed with him.** Blasts of ***shofarot* went out** from the court **of Rava** promulgating his ruling, **and they permitted** the sale. **And** blasts of ***shofarot* went out** from the court **of Rav Huna bar Ḥinnana and Rav Huna, son of Rav Naḥman,** promulgating their ruling, **and they prohibited** the sale.