## Avodah Zarah Daf 65a

###### Avodah Zarah 65a:1
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לַאֲבִידַרְנָא בְּיוֹם אֵידָם, אָמַר: יָדַעְנָא בֵּיהּ דְּלָא פָּלַח לַעֲבוֹדָה זָרָה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף: וְהָתַנְיָא: אֵיזֶהוּ גֵּר תּוֹשָׁב? כֹּל שֶׁקִּיבֵּל עָלָיו בִּפְנֵי שְׁלֹשָׁה חֲבֵרִים שֶׁלֹּא לַעֲבוֹד עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה! כִּי תַּנְיָא הָהִיא — לְהַחְיוֹתוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**to** a gentile named **Avidarna on their festival day.** Rav Yehuda **said: I know of him that he does not worship idols,** so he is not considered a gentile with regard to the prohibition against giving a gift to a gentile on their festival. **Rav Yosef said to him: But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita*: **Who is a *ger toshav*?** It is **anyone who has accepted upon himself before three *ḥaverim* to not worship idols.** Avidarna had not accepted this upon himself before three Jews. Rav Yehuda replied to him: **When that** *baraita* **is taught,** it is with regard to the mitzva **to sustain him.**


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:2
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וְהָאָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: גֵּר תּוֹשָׁב שֶׁעָבְרוּ עָלָיו שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ וְלֹא מָל, הֲרֵי הוּא כְּמִין שֶׁבָּאוּמּוֹת! הָתָם כְּגוֹן שֶׁקִּיבֵּל עָלָיו לָמוּל וְלֹא מָל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Yosef further objected: **But doesn’t Rabba bar bar Ḥana say** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A *ger toshav*** for **whom twelve months passed without** him **circumcising** himself **is considered as a heretic of the gentiles,** and certainly this Avidarna is not circumcised. Rav Yehuda replied: **There,** Rabbi Yoḥanan is referring to a case **where** the gentile who desired to become a *ger toshav* **took it upon himself to become circumcised, but** he recanted and **did not circumcise** himself, and in such a case it is assumed that he did not circumcise himself due to apostasy. Generally, in the case of a *ger toshav* who did not take this upon himself, this is not required of him.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:3
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רָבָא אַמְטִי לֵיהּ קוּרְבָּנָא לְבַר שֵׁישַׁךְ בְּיוֹם אֵידָם. אֲמַר: יָדַעְנָא בֵּיהּ דְּלָא פָּלַח לַעֲבוֹדָה זָרָה. אֲזַל אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ דְּיָתֵיב עַד צַוְּארֵיהּ בְּוַורְדָּא, וְקָיְימָן זוֹנוֹת עֲרוּמּוֹת קַמֵּיהּ. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִית לְכוּ כְּהַאי גַּוְונָא לְעָלְמָא דְּאָתֵי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: דִּידַן עֲדִיפָא טְפֵי מֵהַאי. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: טְפֵי מֵהַאי מִי הָוֵה? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַתּוּן אִיכָּא עֲלַיְיכוּ אֵימְתָא דְּמַלְכוּתָא, אֲנַן לָא תֶּיהְוֵי עֲלַן אֵימְתָא דְמַלְכוּתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא מִיהָא מַאי אֵימְתָא דְּמַלְכוּתָא אִיכָּא עֲלַי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: **Rava brought a gift to** a minister named **bar Sheshakh on their festival day.** Rava **said: I know of him that he does not worship idols.** Rava **went** to him and **found him sitting up to his neck in rose** water, **and naked prostitutes were standing before him.** Bar Sheshakh **said to him: Do you have** anything as fine **as this in the World-to-Come?** Rava **said to him: Ours is better than this.** Bar Sheshakh **said to him: Is there** anything **finer than this?** Rava **said to him: You have the fear of the government upon you; we will not have the fear of the government upon us** in the World-to-Come. Bar Sheshakh **said to him:** As for **me, in any event, what fear of the government is there upon me?** I am a powerful man.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:4
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עַד דְּיָתְבִי, אֲתָא הָהוּא פְּרִיסְתָּקָא דְּמַלְכָּא, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: קוּם, דְּקָבָעֵי לָךְ מַלְכָּא. כִּי נָפֵיק וְאָזֵיל, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: עֵינָא דְּבָעֵי לְמִיחְזֵי לְכוּ בִּישׁוּתָא תִּיפְקַע. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא: אָמֵן. פְּקַע עֵינֵיהּ דְּבַר שֵׁישַׁךְ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**While they were sitting, a certain royal officer [*peristaka*] came** and **said to** bar Sheshakh: **Rise, as the king requires you** to appear before him. **As he was going out, he said to** Rava: May any **eye that wishes to see evil upon you burst,** as it is clear that you were correct. **Rava said to him: Amen.** And then **bar Sheshakh’s eye burst.**


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:5
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אָמַר רַב פַּפִּי: אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמֵימְרָא לֵיהּ מֵהַאי קְרָא ״בְּנוֹת מְלָכִים בְּיִקְּרוֹתֶיךָ נִצְּבָה שֵׁגַל לִימִינְךָ בְּכֶתֶם אוֹפִיר״. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמֵימְרָא לֵיהּ מֵהָכָא ״עַיִן לֹא רָאָתָה אֱלֹהִים זוּלָתְךָ יַעֲשֶׂה לִמְחַכֵּה לוֹ״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappi said:** Rava **should have said** a response **to him from this verse: “Kings’ daughters are among your favorites; at your right hand stands the queen in gold of Ophir”** (Psalms 45:10), indicating that in the World-to-Come, the daughters of kings will serve the Jewish people. **Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: He should have said** a response **to him from here:** The reward of the Jewish people will be such that **“no eye has seen it, God, aside from You, Who will do for those who await Him”** (Isaiah 64:3).


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:6
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שְׂכָרוֹ לַעֲשׂוֹת עִמּוֹ מְלָאכָה אַחֶרֶת. וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אֲמַר לֵיהּ לְעִיתּוֹתֵי עֶרֶב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: If the gentile **hired him to do other work with him,** even if he said to him while he was working with him: Transport the barrel of wine used for a libation for me from this place to that place, his wage is permitted, i.e., it is permitted for the Jew to derive benefit from the money. The Gemara notes that this formulation of the mishna indicates that this wage is permitted **even if** the gentile **did not say to him** to transport the barrel of wine **toward evening,** i.e., toward the end of his workday.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:7
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וּרְמִינְהִי: הַשּׂוֹכֵר אֶת הַפּוֹעֵל, וּלְעִיתּוֹתֵי עֶרֶב אָמַר לוֹ: ״הַעֲבֵר חָבִית שֶׁל יַיִן נֶסֶךְ מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם״ — שְׂכָרוֹ מוּתָּר. טַעְמָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ לְעִיתּוֹתֵי עֶרֶב — אִין, כּוּלֵּי יוֹמָא — לָא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** the Gemara **raises a contradiction** from a *baraita*: In the case of **one who hires a laborer, and toward evening** the employer **said to him: Transport** this **barrel of wine** used for **a libation from** this **place to** that **place, his wage** is **permitted.** By inference, **the reason** for this ruling is **that** the employer **said** it **to him toward evening,** and therefore **yes,** it is permitted, as it is clear that he has completed the labor for which he is being paid and the wage is not for moving the barrel. But if this happened during **the entire day,** not toward evening, this would **not** be permitted.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:8
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אֲמַר אַבָּיֵי: כִּי תְּנַן נָמֵי מַתְנִיתִין, דְּאָמַר לְעִיתּוֹתֵי עֶרֶב תְּנַן. רָבָא אָמַר: לָא קַשְׁיָא, הָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: ״הַעֲבֵר לִי מֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת בְּמֵאָה פְּרוּטוֹת״, הָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: ״הַעֲבֵר לִי חָבִית חָבִית בִּפְרוּטָה״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said: When we learned** this in **the mishna as well, we learned** this with regard to the case **where** the employer **said** this **toward evening. Rava said:** This is **not difficult. This** case, where the wage is forbidden if it was not toward evening, is a case **where** the employer **said to him: Transport one hundred barrels for me for one hundred *perutot*,** in which case moving all of the barrels is considered a single task, and if one of the barrels was wine used for a libation, the entire wage is forbidden. **That** case, in which the wage is permitted in any event, is a case **where** the employer **said to him: Transport each barrel for me for one *peruta*,** such that each barrel is its own task.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:9
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וְהָתַנְיָא: הַשּׂוֹכֵר אֶת הַפּוֹעֵל, וְאָמַר לוֹ: ״הַעֲבֵר לִי מֵאָה חָבִיּוֹת בְּמֵאָה פְּרוּטוֹת״, וְנִמְצֵאת חָבִית שֶׁל יֵין נֶסֶךְ בֵּינֵיהֶן — שְׂכָרוֹ אָסוּר. חָבִית חָבִית בִּפְרוּטָה, וְנִמְצֵאת חָבִית שֶׁל יֵין נֶסֶךְ בֵּינֵיהֶן — שְׂכָרוֹ מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** so **it is taught** in a *baraita*: In the case of **one who hires a laborer and said to him: Transport one hundred barrels for me for one hundred *perutot*, and a barrel of wine** used for **a libation was found among them, his wage** is **forbidden.** But if the employer said to him: Transport **each barrel for one *peruta*, and there was a barrel of wine** used for **a libation among them, his wage** is **permitted.**


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:10
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הַשּׂוֹכֵר אֶת הַחֲמוֹר לְהָבִיא עָלֶיהָ יֵין נֶסֶךְ — שְׂכָרוֹ אָסוּר. הָא תּוּ לְמָה לִי? הַיְינוּ רֵישָׁא! סֵיפָא אִיצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ: שְׂכָרָהּ לֵישֵׁב עָלֶיהָ, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁהִנִּיחַ גּוֹי לְגִינוֹ עָלֶיהָ — שְׂכָרוֹ מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: With regard to a gentile **who rents** a Jew’s **donkey to carry wine** used for **a libation on it, its** rental **fee** is **forbidden.** The Gemara asks: **Why do I** need **this additional** clause? **This is** the same as **the first clause,** as the principle is the same; only the example is different. The Gemara answers: **It was necessary to** teach **the latter clause** in order to teach that if the gentile **rented** the donkey **to sit upon it, even if the gentile placed his jug** of wine used for a libation **on it, its** rental **fee** is **permitted.**


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:11
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לְמֵימְרָא, דְּלָגִין לָאו דִּינָא הוּא לְאוֹתוֹבֵיהּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Is this to say that it is not the legal right** of the renter **to place a jug** upon the donkey, and therefore placing the jug on the donkey was not included in the rental?


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:12
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וּרְמִינְהִי: הַשּׂוֹכֵר אֶת הַחֲמוֹר — שׂוֹכֵר מַנִּיחַ עָלֶיהָ כְּסוּתוֹ וּלְגִינָתוֹ וּמְזוֹנוֹתָיו שֶׁל אוֹתוֹ הַדֶּרֶךְ, מִכָּאן וְאֵילָךְ חַמָּר מְעַכֵּב עָלָיו. חַמָּר מַנִּיחַ עָלֶיהָ שְׂעוֹרִים וְתֶבֶן וּמְזוֹנוֹתָיו שֶׁל אוֹתוֹ הַיּוֹם, מִכָּאן וְאֵילָךְ שׂוֹכֵר מְעַכֵּב עָלָיו.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** the Gemara **raises a contradiction** to this from a *baraita*: With regard to **one who rents a donkey** to ride on, the **renter may place on it his garment, his water jug, and his food for that journey. Beyond those** items, the **donkey driver,** who would take the renter on the journey, **may prevent him** from placing anything on the animal by saying that he does not wish to further burden the donkey. The **donkey driver may place on it barley and hay** for the donkey **and his food for that** first **day** alone. **Beyond those** items, the **renter may prevent him** from placing anything on the animal, on the grounds that it will inhibit its progress.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:13
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אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: נְהִי דְּלָגִין דִּינָא הוּא לְאוֹתוֹבֵי, מִיהָא אִי לָא מוֹתֵיב לֵיהּ, מִי אָמְרִינַן לֵיהּ: נַכִּי לֵיהּ אַגְרָא דִּלְגִינָתוֹ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said: Granted that it is the legal right** of the renter **to place a jug** upon the donkey, but **in any event, if he does not place it** on the donkey, **can we say to** the driver: **Deduct the fee of his jug** from the rental? Since the donkey driver will not deduct any amount from the rental fee if he does not place the jug on the donkey, therefore, even if he does place it, the rental fee is not forbidden.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:14
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הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דִּשְׁכִיחַ לְמִזְבַּן — חַמָּר נָמֵי לְעַכֵּב, וְאִי דְּלָא שְׁכִיחַ לְמִזְבַּן — שׂוֹכֵר נָמֵי לָא לְעַכֵּב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the main point of the *baraita*, the Gemara asks: **What are the circumstances? If** locations in which one is able **to purchase** provisions on the way **are common,** the **donkey driver can also prevent** the renter from putting provisions on the donkey for the entire journey, **and if** locations in which one is able **to purchase** provisions along the way **are uncommon,** the **renter cannot prevent** the driver from taking his provisions for the journey **either.**


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:15
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אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: לָא צְרִיכָא דִּשְׁכִיחַ לְמִיטְרַח וּלְמִזְבַּן מֵאַוָּנָא לְאַוָּנָא, חַמָּר דַּרְכֵּיהּ לְמִיטְרַח וּלְמִזְבַּן, שׂוֹכֵר לָאו דַּרְכֵּיהּ לְמִיטְרַח וּלְמִזְבַּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappa said: No,** it is **necessary** to teach this *halakha* with regard to a case **where** locations in which one is able **to go to the trouble of purchasing** provisions **are common between station and station,** i.e., one can find locations to purchase provisions along the way, but only with difficulty. **A donkey driver is accustomed to troubling himself to purchase** provisions along the way, so it is not permitted for him to pack provisions for the entire journey on the donkey. **A renter is not accustomed to troubling himself to purchase** provisions along the way, so he is allowed to pack all of his provisions.


###### Avodah Zarah 65a:16
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אֲבוּהּ דְּרַב אַחָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב אִיקָא

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: **The father of Rav Aḥa, son of Rav Ika,**