## Avodah Zarah Daf 75a

###### Avodah Zarah 75a:1
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רַב אָמַר: בְּמַיִם, וְהוּא הַדִּין לְאֵפֶר. רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר: לְאֵפֶר, וְהוּא הַדִּין לְמַיִם, וְלָא פְּלִיגִי — הָא בְּרַטִּיבְתָּא, הָא בְּיַבִּשְׁתָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav says:** One must cleanse it **with water** first, **and the same** must be done **with ashes** subsequently, and **Rabba bar bar Ḥana says:** One must cleanse it **with ashes** first, **and the same** must be done **with water** subsequently. The Gemara comments: **And they do not disagree. This** statement, that it must be cleansed first with ashes and subsequently with water, was stated **with regard to a damp** winepress. **That** statement, that first it must be moistened with water and then cleansed with ashes, was stated **with regard to a dry** winepress.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:2
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אִיתְּמַר בֵּי רַב מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב אָמְרִי: תַּרְתֵּי תְּלָת, וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: תְּלָת אַרְבַּע.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
A dispute **was stated** with regard to this matter: The Sages of **the school of Rav say in the name of Rav** that the cleansing process consists of **two** stages for a damp winepress, namely, ashes and water, and **three** stages for a dry winepress, namely, water, ashes, and water. **And Shmuel says** that it consists of **three** stages for a damp winepress, namely, ashes, water, and ashes, and **four** stages for a dry winepress, namely, water, ashes, water, and ashes.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:3
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בְּסוּרָא מַתְנוּ הָכִי, בְּפוּמְבְּדִיתָא מַתְנוּ: בֵּי רַב אָמְרִי מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב: תְּלָת אַרְבַּע, וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: אַרְבַּע חָמֵשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In Sura they taught** the dispute in **this** preceding manner, but **in Pumbedita they taught** it in the following manner: The Sages of **the school of Rav said in the name of Rav** that the cleansing process consists of **three** stages for a damp winepress, namely, ashes, water, and ashes, and **four** stages for a dry winepress, namely, water, ashes, water, and ashes. **And Shmuel says** that it consists of **four** stages for a damp winepress, namely, ashes, water, ashes, and water, and **five** stages for a dry winepress, namely, water, ashes, water, ashes, and water.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:4
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וְלָא פְּלִיגִי, מָר קָא חָשֵׁיב מַיָּא בָּתְרָאֵי, וּמָר לָא קָחָשֵׁיב מַיָּא בָּתְרָאֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments with regard to the latter version of the dispute: **And they do not** actually **disagree.** One **Sage,** Shmuel, **counts** the **last** rinsing with **water,** which is only in order to remove the ashes, **and** the other **Sage,** Rav, **does not count** the **last** rinsing with **water.** Therefore Rav counts three and four stages, whereas Shmuel counts four and five.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:5
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בְּעוֹ מִינֵּיהּ מֵרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ: הָנֵי גּוּרְגֵּי דַּאֲרַמָּאֵי מַאי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The students **asked Rabbi Abbahu** with regard to a similar issue of cleansing a utensil from wine of gentiles: With regard to **those wicker nets [*gorgei*]** used to hold the grapes during the treading, **which belong to gentiles, what** is the way to cleanse them?


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:6
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אֲמַר לְהוּ רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ: תְּנֵיתוּהָ, הֲרֵי שֶׁהָיוּ גִּתָּיו וּבֵית בַּדָּיו טְמֵאִין, וּבִקֵּשׁ לַעֲשׂוֹתָן בְּטָהֳרָה — הַדַּפִּין וְהָעֲדָשִׁין וְהַלּוּלָבִין מַדִּיחָן, וְהָעֲקָלִין שֶׁל נְצָרִין וְשֶׁל בִּצְבּוּץ מְנַגְּבָן, וְשֶׁל שִׁיפָה וְשֶׁל גֶּמִי מְיַשְּׁנָן שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: מַנִּיחָן מִגַּת לְגַת וּמִבַּד לְבַד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Abbahu said to them: You learned this** in a *baraita*: In the case of **one whose winepresses or olive presses were impure, and he wished to prepare** his grapes and olives **in** a state of **purity,** he must first cleanse the presses from the impure produce for which they were used. **He must rinse the planks** used as a frame in the winepress, **and the troughs, and the twigs** used as brooms in the winepress; **and he must cleanse the** pressing **baskets** with ashes and water if they were made **of palm leaves or of hemp [*bitzbutz*], or leave them dormant twelve months** if they were made **of bulrush or of reeds,** because these absorb more of the wine. **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: He may leave them** dormant **from** one **wine-pressing** season **to** the next **wine-pressing** season, **or from** one **olive-pressing** season **to** the next **olive-pressing** season.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:7
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הַיְינוּ תַּנָּא קַמָּא! אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ: חוֹרְפֵי וְאַפְלֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara interjects: **Isn’t this** opinion of Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel the same as that of **the first *tanna*,** as twelve months pass from one wine-pressing season to the next? The Gemara responds: The difference **between them** is with regard to **early**-ripening grapes **and late**-ripening grapes. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel does not require a precise measure of twelve months, as the lapse between ripening seasons may be greater or less.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:8
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רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: הָרוֹצֶה לְטַהֲרָן מִיָּד, מַגְעִילָן בְּרוֹתְחִין, אוֹ חוֹלְטָן בְּמֵי זֵיתִים. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: מַנִּיחָן תַּחַת צִינּוֹר שֶׁמֵּימָיו מְקַלְּחִין, אוֹ בְּמַעְיָן שֶׁמֵּימָיו רוֹדְפִין. וְכַמָּה? עוֹנָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: **Rabbi Yosei says: One who wishes to purify** the winepress or olive press **immediately** without waiting a year **can purge them by** pouring **boiling water** over them, **or scald them in water** used for cooking **olives. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says in the name of Rabbi Yosei: He can place them under a pipe whose water flows** constantly **or in a spring with rapid waters. And** for **how long** should he leave them there? He should leave them for **an interval** of time, as the Gemara will explain.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:9
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כְּדֶרֶךְ שֶׁאָמְרוּ בְּיֵין נֶסֶךְ, כָּךְ אָמְרוּ בִּטְהָרוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* adds: **In the** same **way that** the Sages **stated** these cleansing instructions **with regard to** a winepress used for **libation wine, so they stated** these instructions **with regard to matters of purity.**


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:10
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כְּלַפֵּי לְיָיא! בִּטְהָרוֹת קָיְימִינַן! אֶלָּא, כְּדֶרֶךְ שֶׁאָמְרוּ בִּטְהָרוֹת, כָּךְ אָמְרוּ בְּיֵין נֶסֶךְ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks with regard to this last clause: **Isn’t it the opposite? We are dealing** in this *baraita* **with matters of purity,** not with the matter of wine used for a libation. **Rather,** the *baraita* should be emended: **In the** same **way that** the Sages **stated** this **with regard to matters of purity, so they stated** this **with regard to libation wine.**


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:11
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כַּמָּה עוֹנָה? אָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אוֹ יוֹם אוֹ לַיְלָה. רַבִּי חָנָא שְׁאִינָה, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבִּי חָנָא בַּר שְׁאִינָה, אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: חֲצִי יוֹם וַחֲצִי לַיְלָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **How long is an interval** of time? **Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** It is **either** an entire **day or** an entire **night. Rabbi Ḥana Sha’ina, and some say Rabbi Ḥana bar Sha’ina,** says that **Rabba bar bar Ḥana says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** It is **half a day and half a night.**


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:12
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אָמַר רַבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר יִצְחָק: וְלָא פְּלִיגִי, הָא בִּתְקוּפַת נִיסָן וְתִשְׁרִי, הָא בִּתְקוּפַת תַּמּוּז וְטֵבֵת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Shmuel bar Yitzḥak says: And they do not disagree. This** statement, that it is either a day or a night, is referring **to the season of Nisan or Tishrei,** i.e., the fall or spring, when the day and the night are of equal length, and **that** statement, that it is half a day and half a night, is referring **to the season of Tammuz or Tevet,** i.e., the summer or winter, when they are not equal, and so twelve hours are measured by half the day and half the night.


###### Avodah Zarah 75a:13
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אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: הָנֵי רְוָוקֵי דַּאֲרַמָּאֵי דְּמַזְיָא — מַדִּיחָן, דְּעַמְרָא — מְנַגְּבָן, דְּכִיתָּנָא — מְיַשְּׁנָן, וְאִי אִיכָּא קִטְרֵי — שָׁרֵי לְהוּ. הָנֵי דִּקוּלֵי וְחַלָּאתָא דַּאֲרַמָּאֵי דְּחַיְטִי בְּחַבְלֵי דְּצוּרֵי — מְדִיחָן,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rav Yehuda says:** In order to cleanse **those gentiles’ straining bags [*ravukei*],** which are used for straining yeast from wine, with regard to those made **of hair,** which is not absorbent, one may **rinse them.** With regard to those made **of wool,** one must **cleanse them** with ashes and water. With regard to those made **of flax,** which is more absorbent, one must **leave them dormant. And if there are knots,** one must **undo them.** In order to cleanse **those gentiles’ baskets and strainers,** with regard to those **that are plaited from palm strips,** one may **rinse them.**