## Bava Batra Daf 19a

###### Bava Batra 19a:1
[Bava Batra 19a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:1)

לָא מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לֵיהּ, אִי בְּטַרְפָּא – הָדַר פָּארֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
the bees will **not find it; if** it is referring **to a leaf, it will grow back.**


###### Bava Batra 19a:2
[Bava Batra 19a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:2)

וְלֹא נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין וְכוּ׳. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר אֲבוּהּ: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא מִן הַמַּחְמְצָן, אֲבָל מִן הַנַּדְיָין – אַרְבַּע אַמּוֹת. תַּנְיָא נָמֵי הָכִי: נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין – אַרְבַּע אַמּוֹת. וְהָא אֲנַן תְּנַן שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים! אֶלָּא לָאו – שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ כִּדְרַב נַחְמָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **Nor** may one set up **a launderer’s pond** near his neighbor’s wall unless he distances it three handbreadths from the wall. **Rav Naḥman says** that **Rabba bar Avuh says: They taught this only with regard to a soaking pond,** in which soiled clothes are left to soak for several days. **But** in the case **of a washing pond [*hanadyan*],** where clothes are actively cleaned, **four cubits** are required. **That** opinion **is also taught** in a *baraita*: **A launderer’s pond** must be kept **four cubits** from one’s neighbor’s wall. **But didn’t we learn** in the mishna that one must keep a distance of only **three handbreadths? Rather,** must one **not conclude from** the *baraita* that the statement of **Rav Naḥman** is correct?


###### Bava Batra 19a:3
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וְאִיכָּא דְּרָמֵי לְהוּ מִירְמֵי, תְּנַן: נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים. וְהָתַנְיָא אַרְבַּע אַמּוֹת! אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר אֲבוּהּ, לָא קַשְׁיָא: כָּאן מִן הַמַּחְמְצָן, כָּאן מִן הַנַּדְיָין. רַב חִיָּיא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב אַוְיָא מַתְנֵי לַהּ בְּהֶדְיָא: אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן הִרְחִיק מִשְּׂפַת מַחְמְצָן וְלַכּוֹתֶל שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And some raise** this **as a contradiction,** and present the mishna and *baraita* as apparently conflicting sources. **We learned** in the mishna that **a launderer’s pond** must be kept **three handbreadths** from his neighbor’s property. **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita* that **four cubits** are required? **Rav Naḥman says** that **Rabba bar Avuh says:** This is **not difficult. Here,** the mishna is referring to **a soaking pond,** which requires three handbreadths; **there,** the *baraita* is referring to **a washing pond,** in which case four cubits are necessary. **Rav Ḥiyya, son of Rav Avya, teaches** the mishna **explicitly** as reading: **Unless he distanced three handbreadths from the rim of the soaking pond and the wall.**


###### Bava Batra 19a:4
[Bava Batra 19a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:4)

וְסָד בְּסִיד. אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: ״וְסָד בְּסִיד״ תְּנַן, אוֹ דִילְמָא ״אוֹ סָד בְּסִיד״ תְּנַן?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that one who digs a pit must distance it three handbreadths from another’s property and **plaster** it **with lime. A dilemma was raised before** the Sages: What is the precise wording of the mishna? **Did we learn: And plasters with lime,** meaning that the walls must be plastered with lime in addition to distancing the pit three handbreadths, **or perhaps we learned: Or plasters with lime,** i.e., one may plaster the walls with lime instead of digging the pit at a distance of three handbreadths.


###### Bava Batra 19a:5
[Bava Batra 19a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:5)

פְּשִׁיטָא דִּ״וְסָד בְּסִיד״ תְּנַן, דְּאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ דְּ״אוֹ סָד בְּסִיד״ תְּנַן, אִם כֵּן לִיעָרְבִינְהוּ וְלִיתְנִינְהוּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: It is **obvious that we learned: And plasters with lime, as, if it enters your mind** that **we learned: Or plasters with lime,** which is the same as what is stated in the clause of the mishna discussing olive refuse, **if so, let** the *tanna* **combine them and teach them** together. If the same *halakha* applied in all circumstances, all of the mishna’s cases could be taught together.


###### Bava Batra 19a:6
[Bava Batra 19a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:6)

דִּילְמָא מִשּׁוּם דְּלָא דָּמֵי הַאי הֶיזֵּיקָא לְהַאי הֶיזֵּיקָא – רֵישָׁא הֶיזֵּיקָא דִמְתוּנָא, סֵיפָא הֶיזֵּיקָא דְהַבְלָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: This is not proof, as **perhaps** these cases are taught separately **because this** type of **damage is not similar to that** type of **damage. The first clause** of the mishna addresses the issue of **damage** due **to moisture,** whereas **the last clause** addresses the issue of **damage** due **to heat.**


###### Bava Batra 19a:7
[Bava Batra 19a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:7)

תָּא שְׁמַע, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: סֶלַע הַבָּא בְּיָדַיִם – זֶה חוֹפֵר בּוֹרוֹ מִכָּאן, וְזֶה חוֹפֵר בּוֹרוֹ מִכָּאן; זֶה מַרְחִיק שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים וְסָד בְּסִיד, וָזֶה מַרְחִיק שְׁלֹשָׁה טְפָחִים וְסָד בְּסִיד. טַעְמָא דְּבָא בְּיָדַיִם, הָא לֹא בָּא בְּיָדַיִם – לֹא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** a proof from a *baraita*. **Rabbi Yehuda says:** With regard to **rock that** is so soft it **crumbles in** one’s **hands, this one digs his pit from here,** on his property, **and that one digs his pit from there. This one distances** his pit **three handbreadths and plasters with lime, and that one distances** his pit **three handbreadths and plasters with lime.** The Gemara analyzes this ruling: The specific **reason** one must also plaster with lime is that he is using rock that **crumbles in** one’s **hands,** from which it may be inferred that if it is rock that **does not crumble in** one’s **hands,** one would **not** be required to plaster with lime as well.


###### Bava Batra 19a:8
[Bava Batra 19a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:8)

הוּא הַדִּין דְּאַף עַל גַּב דְּלֹא בָּא בְּיָדַיִם נָמֵי סָד בְּסִיד, וּבָא בְּיָדַיִם אִיצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ – סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: כֵּיוָן דְּבָא בְּיָדַיִם, לִיבְעֵי רַוְוחָא טְפֵי; קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן:.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: One could say that **the same is true,** i.e., **that even though** he is using rock **that does not crumble in** one’s **hands,** he must **also plaster with lime. And it was necessary for** the *tanna* to mention the case of rock that **crumbles in** one’s **hands,** as it might **enter your mind to say** that **since it crumbles in** one’s **hands, let us require a greater distance.** Therefore, the *tanna* **teaches us** that this is not the case.


###### Bava Batra 19a:9
[Bava Batra 19a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:9)

מַרְחִיקִין אֶת הַגֶּפֶת וְאֶת הַזֶּבֶל וְאֶת הַמֶּלַח וְאֶת הַסְּלָעִים וְכוּ׳. תְּנַן הָתָם: בַּמֶּה טוֹמְנִין וּבַמָּה אֵין טוֹמְנִין?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that **one must distance the solid residue** of produce that has been pressed free of its oil, **and** animal **manure, and salt, and lime, and rocks** three handbreadths from the wall of another, or plaster its receptacle with lime. The Gemara comments: **We learned** in a mishna **there** (*Shabbat* 47b): **With what** substances **may one insulate** a pot of cooked food on Shabbat eve, **and with what** substances **may one not insulate** it?


###### Bava Batra 19a:10
[Bava Batra 19a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:10)

אֵין טוֹמְנִין לֹא בַּגֶּפֶת, וְלֹא בַּזֶּבֶל, וְלֹא בַּמֶּלַח, וְלֹא בַּסִּיד, וְלֹא בַּחוֹל – בֵּין לַחִין בֵּין יְבֵשִׁין. מַאי שְׁנָא הָכָא דְּקָתָנֵי סְלָעִים וְלָא קָתָנֵי חוֹל, וּמַאי שְׁנָא הָתָם דְּקָתָנֵי חוֹל וְלָא קָתָנֵי סְלָעִים?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**One may insulate** the pot **neither with the solid residue** of produce that has been pressed free of its oil, **nor with manure, nor with salt, nor with lime, nor with sand, whether** those materials are **moist** or **whether** they are **dry.** All of these materials spontaneously generate heat when piled up for an extended period of time. Therefore, they add heat to the pot they insulate. The Gemara asks: **What is different here that** the mishna **teaches** the *halakha* in the case of **rocks and it does not teach** the *halakha* in the case of **sand, and what is different there that it teaches** the *halakha* in the case of **sand and it does not teach** the *halakha* in the case of **rocks?**


###### Bava Batra 19a:11
[Bava Batra 19a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:11)

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: לְפִי שֶׁאֵין דַּרְכָּן שֶׁל בְּנֵי אָדָם לְהַטְמִין בִּסְלָעִים. אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: וְכִי דַּרְכָּן שֶׁל בְּנֵי אָדָם לְהַטְמִין בְּגִיזֵּי צֶמֶר וּלְשׁוֹנוֹת שֶׁל אַרְגָּמָן?! דְּתַנְיָא: טוֹמְנִין בְּגִיזֵּי צֶמֶר, וּבְצִיפֵּי צֶמֶר, וּבִלְשׁוֹנוֹת שֶׁל אַרְגָּמָן, וּבְמוֹכִין, וְאֵין מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָן!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef says:** There is a practical reason for this difference. Rocks are not mentioned there **because it is not customary for people to insulate** food **with rocks. Abaye said to him: And is it customary for people to insulate** food **with wool fleece and tabs of purple wool? As it is taught** in a *baraita*: **One may insulate** food **with wool fleece; with combed wool clumps,** which are unwoven; **with tabs of purple wool; and with** swatches of **soft material; but** one **may not move them** on Shabbat because they are set-aside [*muktze*].


###### Bava Batra 19a:12
[Bava Batra 19a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:12)

אֶלָּא אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: ״יַגִּיד עָלָיו רֵעוֹ״; תְּנָא הָכָא סְלָעִים – וְהוּא הַדִּין לְחוֹל, תְּנָא הָתָם חוֹל – וְהוּא הַדִּין לִסְלָעִים. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא: אִי ״יַגִּיד עָלָיו רֵעוֹ״, לִיתְנִינְהוּ לְכוּלְּהוּ בַּחֲדָא, וְלִיתְנֵי חֲדָא מִנַּיְיהוּ בְּאִידַּךְ – וְהוּא הַדִּין לְאִידַּךְ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, Abaye said** that the *tanna* follows the biblical aphorism in the verse that states: **“Its neighbor tells about him”** (Job 36:33), i.e., one example is mentioned and the same applies to the other case. **He taught** the *halakha* in the case of **rocks here and the same is true of sand; he taught** the *halakha* in the case of **sand there and the same is true of rocks. Rava said to** Abaye: **If** this is correct, that **“its neighbor tells about him,” let him teach** the *halakha* of **all of** these examples **in one** case, **and let him teach** the *halakha* of just **one in the other** case, **and** it can be said that **the same is true** with regard **to the others.**


###### Bava Batra 19a:13
[Bava Batra 19a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:13)

אֶלָּא אָמַר רָבָא: הָתָם הַיְינוּ טַעְמָא דְּלָא קָתָנֵי סְלָעִים – מִשּׁוּם דִּמְשַׁתְּכִי לַהּ לִקְדֵרָה; הָכָא הַיְינוּ טַעְמָא דְּלָא קָתָנֵי חוֹל – מִשּׁוּם דְּמֵחַמִּימֵי חָיֵים וּמִקָּרִירֵי קָרֵיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, Rava said: There, this is** the **reason that** the *tanna* **does not teach** the *halakha* in the case of **rocks: Because they break,** i.e., scratch, **the pot,** and consequently people do not use them for insulating food at all. **Here, this is** the **reason that** the *tanna* **does not teach** the *halakha* in the case of **sand: Because it heats hot** items **and cools cold** items, and therefore it does not cause any damage to the wall.


###### Bava Batra 19a:14
[Bava Batra 19a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:14)

וְהָא תָּנֵי רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: חוֹל! הָתָם בִּמְתוּנָא. תַּנָּא דִּידַן נָמֵי לִיתְנֵי, וְלוֹקְמֵיהּ בִּמְתוּנָא! הָא תְּנָא לֵיהּ אַמַּת הַמַּיִם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But Rabbi Oshaya taught** in a *baraita* that one must distance **sand** from his neighbor’s wall. The Gemara answers: **There,** it is referring **to damp** sand, which must be kept at a distance due to its moisture. The Gemara challenges: **Let the *tanna* of our** mishna **also teach** the *halakha* in the case of sand **and we will interpret it** as referring **to damp** sand. The Gemara answers: This *tanna* **already taught** the case of **a water channel,** which is a source of dampness, and therefore there was no need to mention damp sand as well.


###### Bava Batra 19a:15
[Bava Batra 19a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:15)

אַטּוּ מִי לָא קָתָנֵי אַמַּת הַמַּיִם – וְקָתָנֵי נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this answer: That is incorrect, as **is that to say** that the mishna includes only one example of a source of dampness? **Doesn’t** the mishna **teach** the case of **a water channel? And** yet **it** also **teaches** the example of **a launderer’s pond.** This demonstrates that the mishna teaches many cases, despite the similarity between them, and therefore it should have mentioned the *halakha* in the case of sand as well.


###### Bava Batra 19a:16
[Bava Batra 19a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:16)

הָנְהוּ צְרִיכִי; דְּאִי תְּנָא אַמַּת הַמַּיִם – מִשּׁוּם דִּקְבִיעָא, אֲבָל נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין, דְּלָא קְבִיעָא – אֵימָא לָא. וְאִי תְּנָא נִבְרֶכֶת הַכּוֹבְסִין – מִשּׁוּם דִּקְווּ וְקָיְימִי, אֲבָל אַמַּת הַמַּיִם – לָא; צְרִיכָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: Both of **those** particular examples **are necessary, as, had** the *tanna* **taught** only the case of **a water channel,** one would have claimed that a distance must be kept **because it is fixed,** i.e., water constantly passes through it. **But** with regard to **a launderer’s pond, which is not fixed,** as it sometimes holds water and sometimes does not, one might **say** that one need **not** distance it from his neighbor’s property. **And** conversely, **had** the *tanna* **taught** only the case of **a launderer’s pond,** one might have said that this must be distanced **because** its water **is fixed and standing** in one location and therefore leaks out. **But** with regard to **a water channel,** one might say distancing it is **not** required. Consequently, **it is necessary** to state both examples. By contrast, including the *halakha* in the case of sand would not add any novel understanding.


###### Bava Batra 19a:17
[Bava Batra 19a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:17)

מַרְחִיקִין אֶת הַזְּרָעִים וְאֶת הַמַּחֲרֵישָׁה וְכוּ׳. זְרָעִים – תִּיפּוֹק לֵיהּ מִשּׁוּם מַחֲרֵישָׁה! בְּמַפּוֹלֶת יָד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **One must distance seeds,** i.e., one may not plant seeds, **and** one may not operate **the plow,** and one must eliminate urine, three handbreadths from the wall of another. The Gemara asks: Why is it necessary to mention **seeds?** Let him **derive this** requirement to distance the seeds **due to** the requirement to distance **a plow,** as in any event the ground must be plowed before it can be sown? The Gemara answers: This is referring to planting **with a single hand motion,** which is performed without plowing.


###### Bava Batra 19a:18
[Bava Batra 19a:18](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:18)

מַחֲרֵישָׁה – וְתִיפּוֹק לֵיהּ מִשּׁוּם זְרָעִים! בְּחוֹרֵשׁ לְאִילָנוֹת. וְתִיפּוֹק לֵיהּ מִשּׁוּם מַיָּא! תַּנָּא בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל קָאֵי, דִּכְתִיב: ״לִמְטַר הַשָּׁמַיִם תִּשְׁתֶּה מָּיִם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara further challenges: The mishna teaches that one must distance **a plow; but** let him **derive this** requirement to distance a plow **due to** the requirement to distance the **seeds,** as plowing is preparation for planting. The Gemara answers: This is referring **to one who plows** to prepare the ground **for trees.** The Gemara challenges: **But** if so, let him **derive this** requirement to distance a plow due to the requirement to distance the **water.** If there are trees, there must be a water channel to irrigate them, and arranging one’s field in such a manner should be prohibited for that reason. The Gemara answers: **The *tanna* is referring to Eretz Yisrael,** concerning **which it is written: “And drinks water as the rain of heaven comes down”** (Deuteronomy 11:11). In Eretz Yisrael, water channels were not needed.


###### Bava Batra 19a:19
[Bava Batra 19a:19](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/19a:19)

לְמֵימְרָא דִּזְרָעִים

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Is this to say that seeds**