## Bava Batra Daf 29b

###### Bava Batra 29b:1
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וּמוֹדֵי מָר זוּטְרָא בְּרוֹכְלִין הַמַּחֲזִירִין בָּעֲיָירוֹת, דְּאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא טָעַן – טָעֲנִינַן לֵיהּ אֲנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Mar Zutra concedes with regard to peddlers who travel through cities,** during which time others might live in their houses, **that even though** the claimant **does not claim** that he insists on testimony that there was continuous use, day and night, over three years, **we** the court **claim** this **for him.** Since people know they are traveling salesmen, it is more likely that people lived in their houses without permission and without their knowledge.


###### Bava Batra 29b:2
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וּמוֹדֶה רַב הוּנָא בְּחַנְוָתָא דְמָחוֹזָא – דְּלִימָמָא עֲבִידָא, לְלֵילְיָא לָא עֲבִידָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the requirement for continuous day and night use to establish the presumption of ownership, the Gemara comments: **And Rav Huna concedes with regard to a store** in the town **of Meḥoza, which** is generally **used in the day** and **is not** generally **used in the night,** that one is not required to use it in the night to establish the presumption of ownership.


###### Bava Batra 29b:3
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רָמֵי בַּר חָמָא וְרַב עוּקְבָא בַּר חָמָא זְבוּן הָהִיא אַמְּתָא בַּהֲדֵי הֲדָדֵי. מָר אִישְׁתַּמַּשׁ בָּהּ רִאשׁוֹנָה שְׁלִישִׁית וַחֲמִישִׁית, וּמָר אִישְׁתַּמַּשׁ בָּהּ שְׁנִיָּה רְבִיעִית וְשִׁשִּׁית. נְפַק עַרְעָר עִילָּוַהּ,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the requirement of continuous use to establish the presumption of ownership, the Gemara relates that **Rami bar Ḥama and Rav Ukva bar Ḥama purchased a maidservant together.** One **Sage made use of her** during the **first, third, and fifth** years, **and** one **Sage made use of her** during the **second, fourth, and sixth** years. **One** individual **who contested** their ownership **of** the maidservant **emerged** and claimed that he was the owner.


###### Bava Batra 29b:4
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אֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרָבָא, אֲמַר לְהוּ: מַאי טַעְמָא עָבְדִיתוּ הָכִי – כִּי הֵיכִי דְּלָא תַּחְזְקוּ אַהֲדָדֵי; כִּי הֵיכִי דִּלְדִידְכוּ לָא הָוֵי חֲזָקָה, לְעָלְמָא נָמֵי לָא הָוֵי חֲזָקָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**They came before Rava** for a judgment. **He said to them: What is the reason you acted like this,** making use of her in alternate years, **so that** each of **you would not establish** the **presumption** of ownership **concerning each other** by making use of her for three consecutive years? **Just as** this usage does **not** establish the **presumption** of ownership **with regard to you,** it does **not** establish the **presumption** of ownership **with regard to others,** i.e., the claimant in this case, **as well.**


###### Bava Batra 29b:5
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וְלָא אֲמַרַן אֶלָּא דְּלָא כְּתוּב עִיטְרָא, אֲבָל כְּתוּב עִיטְרָא – קָלָא אִית לֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara adds: **And we said** this **only** in a case **where** it **was not written** in a **document** that they are partners and are dividing the use, **but** if it **was written** in a **document,** the document generates **publicity** that they own the maidservant as partners rather than individually, and they can jointly establish the presumption of ownership.


###### Bava Batra 29b:6
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אָמַר רָבָא: אֲכָלָהּ כּוּלָּהּ, חוּץ מִבֵּית רוֹבַע – קָנָה כּוּלָּהּ, חוּץ מִבֵּית רוֹבַע.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara continues its discussion of the requirement for full use of land to establish the presumption of ownership. **Rava says:** If one worked and **profited,** for three years, **from all of** the land **except for** the **area required for sowing a quarter-*kav* of seed [*beit rova*],** which he did not use, **he acquires all** of the field based on presumptive ownership **except for** that ***beit rova*.**


###### Bava Batra 29b:7
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אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: וְלָא אֲמַרַן אֶלָּא דְּבַר זְרִיעָה הִיא, אֲבָל לָאו בַּר זְרִיעָה הִיא – קָנֵי לַהּ אַגַּב אַרְעָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, says: And we said** this ruling **only where** that *beit rova* **is suitable for planting, but** if **it is not suitable for planting, he acquires it by means of** the acquisition of the rest of the **land.**


###### Bava Batra 29b:8
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מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַב בִּיבִי בַּר אַבָּיֵי: אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, צוּנְמָא – בַּמֶּה יִקְנֶה? אֶלָּא בְּאוֹקוֹמֵי בָּהּ חֵיוָתָא וּמִשְׁטְחָא בַּהּ פֵּירֵי; הָכָא נָמֵי – אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְאוֹקוֹמֵי בָּהּ חֵיוָתָא, אִי נָמֵי מִשְׁטְחָא בַּהּ פֵּירֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Beivai bar Abaye objects to this: If that is so, how could one acquire** an area that is only **rock** by establishing the presump-tion of ownership, as one does not plant rocky land? **Rather,** the presumption of ownership can be established **by standing animals on it or spreading produce on it. Here too, he should be required to stand animals on** the *beit rova* **or** to **spread produce on it.** If he did not profit from this small piece of land at all, he has not established the presumption of ownership with regard to it, and acquires only the rest of the field.


###### Bava Batra 29b:9
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הָהוּא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ לְחַבְרֵיהּ: מַאי בָּעֵית בְּהַאי בֵּיתָא? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מִינָּךְ זְבֵינְתֵּיהּ, וַאֲכַלִית שְׁנֵי חֲזָקָה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא בִּשְׁכוּנֵי גַּוּוֹאֵי הֲוַאי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara relates that there was **a certain** person **who said to another: What do you want,** i.e., what are you doing, **with this house** of mine? The other **said to him: I purchased it from you and I** worked and **profited** from **it** for the **years** necessary for establishing the **presumption** of ownership. The claimant **said to him: I was among the distant settlements,** and was unaware that you were residing in my house, which is why I did not lodge a protest.


###### Bava Batra 29b:10
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אֲתָא לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: זִיל בְּרוֹר אֲכִילְתָךְ. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבָא: הָכִי דִּינָא?! הַמּוֹצִיא מֵחֲבֵירוֹ עָלָיו הָרְאָיָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The one residing in the house **came before Rav Naḥman** for a judgment. Rav Naḥman **said to him: Go clarify your profiting,** i.e., prove that you really resided there for three years, and then the case can be judged. **Rava said to** Rav Naḥman: Is **this the** correct **judgment?** The *halakha* is that **the burden of proof rests upon the claimant.** Therefore, the one who is attempting to take the house from the possessor should have to prove that the other did not reside in the house.


###### Bava Batra 29b:11
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וְרָמֵי דְּרָבָא אַדְּרָבָא, וְרָמֵי דְּרַב נַחְמָן אַדְּרַב נַחְמָן – דְּהָהוּא

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** the Gemara **raises a contradiction** between this statement **of Rava and** another statement **of Rava, and** it **raises a contradiction** between this statement **of Rav Naḥman and** another statement **of Rav Naḥman. As** there was **a certain** person