## Bava Batra Daf 32b

###### Bava Batra 32b:1
[Bava Batra 32b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:1)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁטָרָא זַיְיפָא הוּא! גְּחֵין לְחֵישׁ לֵיהּ לְרַבָּה: אִין, שְׁטָרָא זַיְיפָא הוּא; מִיהוּ שְׁטָרָא מְעַלְּיָא הֲוָה לִי, וְאִירְכַס, וְאָמֵינָא: אֶינְקֹיט הַאי בִּידַאי כָּל דְּהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The first **said to him** in response: **It is a forged bill** of sale. The possessor **leaned** over and **whispered to Rabba: Yes, it is a forged bill. But I had a proper bill** of sale **and it was lost, and I said** to myself: **I will hold this** bill of sale **in my possession, such as it is.**


###### Bava Batra 32b:2
[Bava Batra 32b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:2)

אָמַר רַבָּה: מָה לוֹ לְשַׁקֵּר? אִי בָּעֵי, אָמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁטָרָא מְעַלְּיָא הוּא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף: אַמַּאי סָמְכַתְּ – אַהַאי שְׁטָרָא; הַאי שְׁטָרָא חַסְפָּא בְּעָלְמָא הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabba said: Why would he lie** and state this claim? **If** he **wants** to lie, he can **say to him** that **it is a proper bill** of sale, and he would have been deemed credible and awarded the field. **Rav Yosef said to** Rabba: In the final analysis, **on what** are **you relying** to award him the land? **On this bill** of sale? **This** admittedly forged **bill is merely** a worthless **shard,** and cannot be used in court as evidence.


###### Bava Batra 32b:3
[Bava Batra 32b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:3)

הַהוּא דְּאָמַר לְחַבְרֵיהּ: הַב לִי מְאָה זוּזִי דְּמַסֵּיקְנָא בָּךְ, וְהָא שְׁטָרָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁטָרָא זַיְיפָא הוּא. גְּחֵין לְחֵישׁ לֵיהּ לְרָבָא: אִין, שְׁטָרָא זַיְיפָא; מִיהוּ שְׁטָרָא מְעַלְּיָא הֲוָה לִי, וְאִירְכַס, וְאָמֵינָא: אֶינְקוֹט הַאי בִּידַאי כָּל דְּהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates a similar incident: There was **a certain** person **who said to another: Give me one hundred dinars that I am** attempting to **collect from you, and this** is **the** promissory **note** that attests to the debt. The latter **said to him** in response: **It is a forged** promissory **note.** The first person **leaned** over and **whispered to Rava: Yes, it is a forged** promissory **note. But I had a proper** promissory **note and it was lost, and I said** to myself: **I will hold this** promissory note **in my possession, such as it is.**


###### Bava Batra 32b:4
[Bava Batra 32b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:4)

אָמַר רַבָּה: מָה לוֹ לְשַׁקֵּר? אִי בָּעֵי, אָמַר לֵיהּ: שְׁטָרָא מְעַלְּיָא הוּא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב יוֹסֵף: אַמַּאי קָא סָמְכַתְּ – אַהַאי שְׁטָרָא; הַאי שְׁטָרָא חַסְפָּא בְּעָלְמָא הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabba said: Why would he lie** and state this claim? **If** he **wants** to lie, he can **say to him** that **it is a proper** promissory **note,** and he will be deemed credible and awarded the money. **Rav Yosef said to** Rabba: In the final analysis, **on what** are **you relying** to award him the money? **On this** promissory **note? This document is merely a shard,** and cannot be used in court as evidence.


###### Bava Batra 32b:5
[Bava Batra 32b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:5)

אָמַר רַב אִידִי בַּר אָבִין: הִלְכְתָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַבָּה בְּאַרְעָא, וְהִלְכְתָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַב יוֹסֵף בְּזוּזֵי. הִלְכְתָא כְּרַבָּה בְּאַרְעָא – דְּהֵיכָא דְּקָיְימָא אַרְעָא, תֵּיקוּם. וְהִלְכְתָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַב יוֹסֵף בְּזוּזֵי – דְּהֵיכָא דְּקָיְימִי זוּזֵי, לוֹקְמוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara notes the final ruling in these two cases. **Rav Idi bar Avin said: The *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rabba with regard to land,** and the possessor is awarded the land, **and the *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rav Yosef with regard to money,** and the one demanding payment is not awarded the money. He explains: **The *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rabba with regard to land,** as the court rules **that** the **land** should **remain where** it **is,** i.e., with the possessor. **And the *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rav Yosef with regard to money,** as the court rules **that** the **money** should **remain where** it **is,** i.e., in the possession of the purported debtor.


###### Bava Batra 32b:6
[Bava Batra 32b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:6)

הָהוּא עָרְבָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ לְלֹוֶה: הַב לִי מְאָה זוּזִי דִּפְרַעְתִּי לְמַלְוֶה עִילָּוָךְ, וְהָא שְׁטָרָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לָאו פְּרַעְתָּיךְ? אֲמַר: לָאו הֲדַרְתְּ שְׁקַלְתִּינְהוּ מִינַּאי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: There was **a certain guarantor who said to a debtor: Give me one hundred dinars** for the money **that I repaid the creditor on your** behalf, **and this** is **the document** that I received from him when I repaid your debt. The debtor **said to** the guarantor: **Is it not** so that **I repaid you?** The guarantor **said** to the debtor: Yes, you did, but **is it not** so that **you later took the** money **from me** again?


###### Bava Batra 32b:7
[Bava Batra 32b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:7)

שַׁלְחַהּ רַב אִידִי בַּר אָבִין לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּאַבָּיֵי: כִּי הַאי גַוְונָא מַאי? שְׁלַח לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: מַאי תִּיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ? הָא אִיהוּ דְּאָמַר: הִלְכְתָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַבָּה בְּאַרְעָא, וְהִלְכְתָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַב יוֹסֵף בְּזוּזֵי – דְּהֵיכָא דְּאוֹקְמוּ זוּזֵי, לוֹקְמוּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Idi bar Avin sent** the following question **before Abaye: What** is the *halakha* in **a case like this? Abaye sent him** the following response: **What does he,** i.e., Rav Idi bar Avin, **ask? Isn’t he** the one **who said: The *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rabba with regard to land, and the *halakha*** is **in accordance with** the opinion **of Rav Yosef with regard to money,** as the court rules **that** the **money** should **remain where** it **is?** Based on his own ruling, the money should remain with the debtor.


###### Bava Batra 32b:8
[Bava Batra 32b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:8)

וְהָנֵי מִילֵּי, דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: הֲדַרְתְּ אוֹזִפְתִּינְהוּ מִינַּאי. אֲבָל אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הַדַּרְתִּינְהוּ נִיהֲלָךְ מֵחֲמַת דַּהֲווֹ שַׁיְיפִי וְסוּמָּקֵי – אַכַּתִּי אִיתֵיהּ לְשִׁעְבּוּדָא דִשְׁטָרָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara notes: **And this matter** applies only in a case **where** the guarantor **says to** the debtor: **You later borrowed** the money **from me** after you had repaid me. **But** if the guarantor **said to** the debtor: **I returned to you** the money that you had repaid me **because** of the fact **that** the coins **were worn out or** overly **reddish,** i.e., discolored, and would not be easily accepted as currency, then **the lien of the document is still** in effect. The debt to the guarantor had not actually been repaid, and the document is still in effect. In that case, the guarantor collects from the debtor.


###### Bava Batra 32b:9
[Bava Batra 32b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/32b:9)

רָבָא בַּר שַׁרְשׁוּם נָפֵק עֲלֵיהּ קָלָא דְּקָא אָכֵיל אַרְעָא דְיַתְמֵי. אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: אֵימָא לִי אִיזִי, גּוּפָא דְעוֹבָדָא הֵיכִי הֲוָה? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַרְעָא בְּמַשְׁכַּנְתָּא הֲוָה נָקֵיטְנָא מֵאֲבוּהוֹן דְּיַתְמֵי; וַהֲוָה לִי

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: **A rumor emerged concerning Rava bar Sharshom that** he **was profiting** from **land belonging to orphans. Abaye said to him: Tell me, my friend,** concerning **the incident itself, how is it** that this rumor was generated? Rava bar Sharshom **said to him: I was holding** on to **the land as collateral from the father of the orphans, and I had**