## Bava Batra Daf 60b

###### Bava Batra 60b:1
[Bava Batra 60b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:1)

זִיל הָאִידָּנָא וְתָא לִמְחַר. בְּלֵילְיָא, שַׁדַּר קַצְיֵיהּ לְהָהוּא דִּידֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Go now, and come tomorrow. At night,** Rabbi Yannai **sent** and had someone **cut** down **that** tree that belonged **to him.**


###### Bava Batra 60b:2
[Bava Batra 60b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:2)

לִמְחַר אֲתָא לְקַמֵּיהּ, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: זִיל קוֹץ. אָמַר לֵיהּ: הָא מָר נָמֵי אִית לֵיהּ! אָמַר לֵיהּ: זִיל חֲזִי; אִי קוּץ דִּידִי – קוֹץ דִּידָךְ, אִי לָא קוּץ דִּידִי – לָא תִּקּוֹץ אַתְּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The next day,** that man **came before** Rabbi Yannai, who **said to him: Go, cut** down your tree. The man **said to him: But** the **Master also has** a tree that leans into the public domain. Rabbi Yannai **said to him: Go** and **see: If mine is cut** down, then **cut yours** down. **If mine is not cut** down, **you do not** have to **cut** yours down, either.


###### Bava Batra 60b:3
[Bava Batra 60b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:3)

מֵעִיקָּרָא מַאי סְבַר וּלְבַסּוֹף מַאי סְבַר? מֵעִיקָּרָא סְבַר: נִיחָא לְהוּ לִבְנֵי רְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, דְּיָתְבִי בְּטוּלֵּיהּ. כֵּיוָן דַּחֲזָא דְּקָא מְעַכְּבִי, שַׁדַּר קַצְיֵיהּ. וְלֵימָא לֵיהּ: זִיל קוֹץ דִּידָךְ, וַהֲדַר אֶקּוֹץ דִּידִי! מִשּׁוּם דְּרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ, דְּאָמַר: ״הִתְקוֹשְׁשׁוּ וָקוֹשּׁוּ״ – קְשׁוֹט עַצְמְךָ וְאַחַר כָּךְ קְשׁוֹט אֲחֵרִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **At the outset what did** Rabbi Yannai **hold, and ultimately, what did he hold?** The Gemara replies: **At the outset, he held** that **the general public is amenable** to having the tree there, **as they sit in its shade. Once he saw that** they were **preventing** someone else who owned a tree from keeping his, he understood that it was only out of respect that they did not object to his tree being there. He therefore **sent** someone to **cut it** down. The Gemara asks: **But** why did he tell the man to return the next day? **Let** him **say to him: Go cut** down **your** tree, **and then I will cut mine** down. The Gemara answers: **Because of** the statement of **Reish Lakish, who said:** The verse states: **“Gather yourselves together and gather [*hitkosheshu vakoshu*]”** (Zephaniah 2:1), and this can be explained homiletically to mean: **Adorn [*keshot*] yourself and afterward adorn others,** i.e., act properly before requiring others to do so.


###### Bava Batra 60b:4
[Bava Batra 60b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:4)

אֲבָל אִם רָצָה – כּוֹנֵס לְתוֹךְ שֶׁלּוֹ וּמוֹצִיא. אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: כָּנַס וְלֹא הוֹצִיא, מַהוּ שֶׁיַּחֲזוֹר וְיוֹצִיא? רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: כָּנַס – מוֹצִיא. וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר: כָּנַס – אֵינוֹ מוֹצִיא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that one may not extend projections or balconies into the public domain. **Rather, if he desired** to build one he may **draw back into his** property by moving his wall, **and extend** the projection to the end of his property line. **A dilemma was raised before** the Sages: If one **drew back** into his property **but did not extend** the projection at that time, **what is** the *halakha* concerning **whether** he may **return and extend** it at a later date? **Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** If one **drew back** into his property, he **may extend** it even later, **and Reish Lakish says:** If one **drew back** into his property but did not build the projection at that time, he **may not extend** it later.


###### Bava Batra 60b:5
[Bava Batra 60b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:5)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַבִּי יַעֲקֹב לְרַבִּי יִרְמְיָה בַּר תַּחְלִיפָא, אַסְבְּרַהּ לָךְ: לְהוֹצִיא – כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְּלִיגִי דְּמוֹצִיא, כִּי פְּלִיגִי – לְהַחֲזִיר כְּתָלִים לִמְקוֹמָן; וְאִיפְּכָא אִיתְּמַר – רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֵינוֹ מַחְזִיר, וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מַחְזִיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara presents an alternative version of the dispute: **Rabbi Ya’akov said to Rabbi Yirmeya bar Taḥlifa: I will explain** the matter **to you. To** later **extend** a projection, **everyone agrees that** he **may extend** it, since he is adding within his own property. **Where they disagree** is **with regard to** whether he may **return** the **walls to their** prior **place. And** with regard to this disagreement **the opposite was stated: Rabbi Yoḥanan says** he **may not return** the walls to their prior place, **and Reish Lakish says** he **may return** them.


###### Bava Batra 60b:6
[Bava Batra 60b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:6)

רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֵינוֹ מַחְזִיר – מִשּׁוּם דְּרַב יְהוּדָה, דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: מֶצֶר שֶׁהֶחֱזִיקוּ בּוֹ רַבִּים, אָסוּר לְקַלְקְלוֹ. וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר: מַחְזִיר – הָנֵי מִילֵּי הֵיכָא דְּלֵיכָּא רַוְוחָא, הָכָא הָא אִיכָּא רַוְוחָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Ya’akov explains their reasoning: **Rabbi Yoḥanan says** that he **may not return** the walls to their prior place **because** of the statement **of Rav Yehuda, as Rav Yehuda says:** With regard to **a path that** the **public has established** as a public thoroughfare, **it is prohibited to ruin it,** i.e., to prevent people from using it. Once the public has become accustomed to using the place where his wall had stood, he may not repossess that space. **And Reish Lakish says** that he **may return** the walls to their prior place, because **that matter** applies in a case **where there is no space,** i.e., if he were to move back the wall there would be no space for the public to walk, but **here there is space,** since they can still walk through the public domain.


###### Bava Batra 60b:7
[Bava Batra 60b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:7)

לָקַח חָצֵר וּבָהּ זִיזִין וּגְזוּזְטְרָאוֹת – הֲרֵי הִיא בְּחֶזְקָתָהּ. אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: נָפְלָה, חוֹזֵר וּבוֹנֶה אוֹתָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The mishna teaches that if one **purchased a courtyard in which there are projections and balconies** extending into the public domain, this courtyard **retains its presumptive status,** allowing the owner to use the projections. **Rav Huna says:** If the wall of the courtyard **fell, he may return and build it** as it was, including the projections or balconies.


###### Bava Batra 60b:8
[Bava Batra 60b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:8)

מֵיתִיבִי: אֵין מְסַיְּידִין וְאֵין מְכַיְּירִין וְאֵין מְפַיְּיחִין בַּזְּמַן הַזֶּה. לָקַח חָצֵר מְסוּיֶּדֶת, מְכוּיֶּרֶת, מְפוּיַּחַת – הֲרֵי זוֹ בְּחֶזְקָתָהּ. נָפְלָה – אֵינוֹ חוֹזֵר וּבוֹנֶה אוֹתָהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection** based on that which is taught in a *baraita* (*Tosefta* 9:17): **One may not plaster, and one may not tile, and one may not paint [*mefayyeḥin*]** images **in the present,** as a sign of mourning for the destruction of the Temple. But if one **purchased a courtyard** that was **plastered, tiled,** or **painted** with images, **this** courtyard **retains its presumptive status,** and it is assumed that it was done in a permitted manner. If **it** then **fell, he may not return and build it** in its previous form. This indicates that one may not rebuild a building in a manner that is prohibited, even if there was an acquired privilege to maintain it in that manner.


###### Bava Batra 60b:9
[Bava Batra 60b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:9)

אִיסּוּרָא שָׁאנֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: A case of **forbidden** matters **is different,** i.e., in the case of the *baraita*, he may not rebuild it because it is prohibited for him to do so. In this mishna, the issue is encroachment upon the rights of others, and once he had an acquired privilege to use the projections or balconies, he maintains that right.


###### Bava Batra 60b:10
[Bava Batra 60b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:10)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: לֹא יָסוּד אָדָם אֶת בֵּיתוֹ בְּסִיד. וְאִם עֵירַב בּוֹ חוֹל אוֹ תֶּבֶן – מוּתָּר. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: עֵירַב בּוֹ חוֹל – הֲרֵי זֶה טְרַכְסִיד, וְאָסוּר; תֶּבֶן – מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ With regard to the ruling of the above-quoted *baraita*, **the Sages taught** (*Tosefta*, *Sota* 15:9): **A person may not plaster his house with plaster, but if** he **mixed sand or straw into** the plaster, which dulls its luster, it is **permitted. Rabbi Yehuda says:** If he **mixed sand into it, it is** white **cement [*terakesid*],** which is of a higher quality than standard plaster, **and** it is **prohibited,** but if he mixed in **straw,** it is **permitted.**


###### Bava Batra 60b:11
[Bava Batra 60b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:11)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: כְּשֶׁחָרַב הַבַּיִת בַּשְּׁנִיָּה, רַבּוּ פְּרוּשִׁין בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל שֶׁלֹּא לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְשֶׁלֹּא לִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן. נִטְפַּל לָהֶן רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ, אָמַר לָהֶן: בָּנַי, מִפְּנֵי מָה אִי אַתֶּם אוֹכְלִין בָּשָׂר וְאֵין אַתֶּם שׁוֹתִין יַיִן? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: נֹאכַל בָּשָׂר – שֶׁמִּמֶּנּוּ מַקְרִיבִין עַל גַּבֵּי מִזְבֵּחַ, וְעַכְשָׁיו בָּטֵל? נִשְׁתֶּה יַיִן – שֶׁמְּנַסְּכִין עַל גַּבֵּי הַמִּזְבֵּחַ, וְעַכְשָׁיו בָּטֵל?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ Having mentioned the prohibition against plastering, which is a sign of mourning over the destruction of the Temple, the Gemara discusses related matters. **The Sages taught** in a *baraita* (*Tosefta*, *Sota* 15:11): **When the Temple was destroyed a second** time, there was **an increase** in the number of **ascetics among** the **Jews,** whose practice was **to not eat meat and to not drink wine. Rabbi Yehoshua joined them** to discuss their practice. **He said to them: My children, for what** reason do **you not eat meat and** do **you not drink wine? They said to him: Shall we eat meat, from which** offerings **are sacrificed upon** the **altar, and now** the altar **has ceased** to exist? **Shall we drink wine, which is poured** as a libation **upon the altar, and now** the altar **has ceased** to exist?


###### Bava Batra 60b:12
[Bava Batra 60b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:12)

אָמַר לָהֶם: אִם כֵּן, לֶחֶם לֹא נֹאכַל – שֶׁכְּבָר בָּטְלוּ מְנָחוֹת! אֶפְשָׁר בְּפֵירוֹת. פֵּירוֹת לֹא נֹאכַל – שֶׁכְּבָר בָּטְלוּ בִּכּוּרִים! אֶפְשָׁר בְּפֵירוֹת אֲחֵרִים. מַיִם לֹא נִשְׁתֶּה – שֶׁכְּבָר בָּטֵל נִיסּוּךְ הַמַּיִם! שָׁתְקוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehoshua **said to them: If so, we will not eat bread** either, **since** the **meal-offerings** that were offered upon the altar **have ceased.** They replied: You are correct. It is **possible** to subsist **with produce.** He said to them: **We will not eat produce** either, **since** the bringing of **the first fruits have ceased.** They replied: You are correct. We will no longer eat the produce of the seven species from which the first fruits were brought, as it is **possible** to subsist **with other produce.** He said to them: If so, **we will not drink water, since the water libation has ceased. They were silent,** as they realized that they could not survive without water.


###### Bava Batra 60b:13
[Bava Batra 60b:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:13)

אָמַר לָהֶן: בָּנַי, בּוֹאוּ וְאוֹמַר לָכֶם: שֶׁלֹּא לְהִתְאַבֵּל כׇּל עִיקָּר אִי אֶפְשָׁר – שֶׁכְּבָר נִגְזְרָה גְּזֵרָה; וּלְהִתְאַבֵּל יוֹתֵר מִדַּאי אִי אֶפְשָׁר – שֶׁאֵין גּוֹזְרִין גְּזֵירָה עַל הַצִּבּוּר, אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן רוֹב צִבּוּר יְכוֹלִין לַעֲמוֹד בָּהּ – דִּכְתִיב: ״בַּמְּאֵרָה אַתֶּם נֵאָרִים, וְאֹתִי אַתֶּם קֹבְעִים; הַגּוֹי כֻּלּוֹ״ –

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehoshua **said to them: My children, come, and I will tell you** how we should act. **To not mourn at all** is **impossible, as** the **decree was already issued** and the Temple has been destroyed. **But to mourn excessively** as you are doing is also **impossible, as** the Sages **do not issue a decree upon the public unless a majority of the public is able to abide by it, as it is written: “You are cursed with the curse, yet you rob Me, even this whole nation”** (Malachi 3:9), indicating that the prophet rebukes the people for neglecting observances only if they were accepted by the whole nation.


###### Bava Batra 60b:14
[Bava Batra 60b:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:14)

אֶלָּא כָּךְ אָמְרוּ חֲכָמִים: סָד אָדָם אֶת בֵּיתוֹ בְּסִיד, וּמְשַׁיֵּיר בּוֹ דָּבָר מוּעָט; וְכַמָּה? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: אַמָּה עַל אַמָּה. אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: כְּנֶגֶד הַפֶּתַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehoshua continues: **Rather, this** is what **the Sages said: A person** may **plaster his house with plaster, but** he must **leave** over **a small amount in it** without plaster to remember the destruction of the Temple. The Gemara interjects: **And how much** is a small amount? **Rav Yosef said:** One **cubit by** one **cubit. Rav Ḥisda said:** This should be **opposite the entrance,** so that it is visible to all.


###### Bava Batra 60b:15
[Bava Batra 60b:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:15)

עוֹשֶׂה אָדָם כׇּל צׇרְכֵי סְעוּדָה, וּמְשַׁיֵּיר דָּבָר מוּעָט; מַאי הִיא? אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: כָּסָא דְהַרְסָנָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehoshua continues: The Sages said that **a person** may **prepare all** that he **needs for a meal, but** he must **leave** out **a small item** to remember the destruction of the Temple. The Gemara interjects: **What** is **this** small item? **Rav Pappa said:** Something akin to **small, fried fish.**


###### Bava Batra 60b:16
[Bava Batra 60b:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:16)

עוֹשָׂה אִשָּׁה כׇּל תַּכְשִׁיטֶיהָ, וּמְשַׁיֶּירֶת דָּבָר מוּעָט; מַאי הִיא? אָמַר רַב: בַּת צִדְעָא. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״אִם אֶשְׁכָּחֵךְ יְרוּשָׁלִָם, תִּשְׁכַּח יְמִינִי. תִּדְבַּק לְשׁוֹנִי לְחִכִּי וְגוֹ׳״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehoshua continues: The Sages said that **a woman** may **engage** in **all** of **her cosmetic treatments, but** she must **leave** out **a small matter** to remember the destruction of the Temple. The Gemara interjects: **What** is **this** small matter? **Rav said:** She does not remove hair from the place on the **temple** from which women would remove hair. The source for these practices is a verse, **as it is stated: “If I forget you, Jerusalem, let my right hand forget its cunning. Let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth,** if I remember you not; if I set not Jerusalem above my highest joy” (Psalms 137:5–6).


###### Bava Batra 60b:17
[Bava Batra 60b:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:17)

מַאי ״עַל רֹאשׁ שִׂמְחָתִי״? אָמַר רַב יִצְחָק: זֶה אֵפֶר מִקְלֶה שֶׁבְּרֹאשׁ חֲתָנִים. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב פָּפָּא לְאַבָּיֵי: הֵיכָא מַנַּח לֵהּ? בִּמְקוֹם תְּפִילִּין, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״לָשׂוּם לַאֲבֵלֵי צִיּוֹן, לָתֵת לָהֶם פְּאֵר תַּחַת אֵפֶר״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What** is the meaning of: **Above my highest [*rosh*] joy? Rav Yitzḥak says: This** is referring to the **burnt ashes** that are customarily placed **on the head [*rosh*] of bridegrooms** at the time of their wedding celebrations, to remember the destruction of the Temple. **Rav Pappa said to Abaye: Where are they placed?** Abaye replied: **On** the **place** where **phylacteries** are placed, **as it is stated: “To appoint to them that mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland in place of ashes”** (Isaiah 61:3). Since phylacteries are referred to as a garland (see Ezekiel 24:17), it may be inferred from this verse that the ashes were placed in the same place as the phylacteries.


###### Bava Batra 60b:18
[Bava Batra 60b:18](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:18)

וְכׇל הַמִּתְאַבֵּל עַל יְרוּשָׁלַיִם – זוֹכֶה וְרוֹאֶה בְּשִׂמְחָתָהּ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״שִׂמְחוּ אֶת יְרוּשָׁלַםִ וְגוֹ׳״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: **And anyone who mourns for** the destruction of **Jerusalem** will **merit and see its joy, as it is stated: “Rejoice with Jerusalem,** and be glad with her, all that love her; rejoice for joy with her, all that mourn for her” (Isaiah 66:10).


###### Bava Batra 60b:19
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תַּנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בֶּן אֱלִישָׁע: מִיּוֹם שֶׁחָרַב בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ, דִּין הוּא שֶׁנִּגְזוֹר עַל עַצְמֵנוּ שֶׁלֹּא לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְלֹא לִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן; אֶלָּא אֵין גּוֹזְרִין גְּזֵרָה עַל הַצִּבּוּר אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן רוֹב צִבּוּר יְכוֹלִין לַעֲמוֹד בָּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is taught** in a *baraita* (*Tosefta*, *Sota* 15:10) that **Rabbi Yishmael ben Elisha said: From the day that the Temple was destroyed, by right, we should decree upon ourselves not to eat meat and not to drink wine, but** the Sages **do not issue a decree upon the public unless a majority of the public is able to abide by it.**


###### Bava Batra 60b:20
[Bava Batra 60b:20](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:20)

וּמִיּוֹם שֶׁפָּשְׁטָה מַלְכוּת הָרְשָׁעָה, שֶׁגּוֹזֶרֶת עָלֵינוּ גְּזֵירוֹת רָעוֹת וְקָשׁוֹת, וּמְבַטֶּלֶת מִמֶּנּוּ תּוֹרָה וּמִצְוֹת, וְאֵין מַנַּחַת אוֹתָנוּ לִיכָּנֵס לִשְׁבוּעַ הַבֵּן, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: לִישׁוּעַ הַבֵּן; דִּין הוּא שֶׁנִּגְזוֹר עַל עַצְמֵנוּ שֶׁלֹּא לִישָּׂא אִשָּׁה וּלְהוֹלִיד בָּנִים, וְנִמְצָא זַרְעוֹ שֶׁל אַבְרָהָם אָבִינוּ כָּלֶה מֵאֵלָיו;

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And from the day that the wicked kingdom,** i.e., Rome, **spread, who decree evil and harsh decrees upon us, and nullify Torah** study **and** the performance of **mitzvot for us, and do not allow us to enter** the celebration of the first **week of a son,** i.e., circumcision, **and some say: To** enter the celebration of the **salvation of** a firstborn **son; by right we should** each **decree upon ourselves not to marry a woman and** not **to produce offspring, and it will turn out** that the **descendants of Abraham our forefather will cease** to exist **on their own,** rather than being forced into a situation where there are sons who are not circumcised.


###### Bava Batra 60b:21
[Bava Batra 60b:21](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:21)

אֶלָּא הַנַּח לָהֶם לְיִשְׂרָאֵל – מוּטָב שֶׁיִּהְיוּ שׁוֹגְגִין, וְאַל יִהְיוּ מְזִידִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But** concerning a situation such as this, the following principle is applied: **Leave the Jews alone** and do not impose decrees by which they cannot abide. **It is better that they be unwitting** sinners, who do not know that what they are doing is improper considering the circumstances, **and not be intentional** wrongdoers, who marry and procreate despite knowing that they should not.


###### Bava Batra 60b:22
[Bava Batra 60b:22](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/60b:22)

**הַדְרָן עֲלָךְ חֶזְקַת הַבָּתִּים**