## Bava Batra Daf 76b

###### Bava Batra 76b:1
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עַד שֶׁיִּמְשְׁכֶנָּה אוֹ עַד שֶׁיִּשְׂכּוֹר אֶת מְקוֹמָהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**until he pulls it, or until he rents its place.** How, then, can the opinion of the first *tanna* of the *baraita* be ascribed to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi?


###### Bava Batra 76b:2
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לָא קַשְׁיָא; כָּאן בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, כָּאן בְּסִימְטָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: This is **not difficult; here,** where Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi states that a ship is acquired through passing, he is referring to a ship situated **in the public domain.** Since a ship in the public domain cannot be acquired through pulling, which must be performed in a domain that is in one’s possession, it is acquired through passing. By contrast, **there,** in the first *baraita*, the ship is situated **in an alleyway [*simta*],** which is not the public domain, as both parties have the right to keep their possessions there. A ship in this location must be acquired through pulling.


###### Bava Batra 76b:3
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בְּמַאי אוֹקֵימְתָּא לְהָא בָּתְרָיְיתָא – בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים? אֵימָא סֵיפָא – וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּמְשְׁכֶנָּה. וְאִי בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, מִמַּאן אָגַר? וְתוּ, מְשִׁיכָה בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים מִי קָנְיָא?! וְהָא אַבָּיֵי וְרָבָא דְּאָמְרִי תַּרְוַיְיהוּ: מְסִירָה קוֹנָה בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, וּבְחָצֵר שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁל שְׁנֵיהֶם; מְשִׁיכָה קוֹנָה בְּסִימְטָא, וּבְחָצֵר שֶׁהִיא שֶׁל שְׁנֵיהֶם; וְהַגְבָּהָה קוֹנָה בְּכׇל מָקוֹם!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **To what** case **did you interpret that last** *baraita* to be referring? It was interpreted as referring **to the public domain.** If so, **say the latter clause** of the *baraita*: **And the Rabbis say** that the buyer **does not acquire** it **until he pulls it** or until he rents its place. The Gemara asks: **But if** the ship is situated **in the public domain, from whom can he rent** the place? **And furthermore, does pulling in the public domain effect acquisition? But don’t Abaye and Rava both say** with regard to the different methods of acquisition: **Passing effects acquisition in the public domain or in a courtyard that does not belong to either of** the parties; **pulling effects acquisition in an alleyway or in a courtyard that belongs to both of** the parties; **and lifting effects acquisition in every place,** even in the seller’s domain.


###### Bava Batra 76b:4
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מַאי ״עַד שֶׁיִּמְשְׁכֶנָּה״ נָמֵי דְּקָאָמַר; וּמַאי ״עַד שֶׁיִּשְׂכּוֹר אֶת מְקוֹמָהּ״ דְּקָאָמַר – הָכִי קָאָמַר: עַד שֶׁיִּמְשְׁכֶנָּה מֵרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים לְסִימְטָא; וְאִם רְשׁוּת בְּעָלִים הִיא – לָא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיִּשְׂכּוֹר אֶת מְקוֹמָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **What** does the *baraita* mean **when it says: Until he pulls it, and what** does it mean **when it says: Until he rents its place? This** is what it **is saying:** The buyer does not acquire the ship **until he pulls it from the public domain into an alleyway. And if** the ship **is** located in **the domain** of some other **owner,** the buyer **does not acquire** it **until he rents its place** from the owner.


###### Bava Batra 76b:5
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לֵימָא אַבָּיֵי וְרָבָא – דְּאָמְרִי כְּרַבִּי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Shall we say** that **Abaye and Rava state** their opinion **in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, not that of the Rabbis? The *baraita* indicates that only Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi maintains that one can acquire ownership by means of passing in the public domain.


###### Bava Batra 76b:6
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אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ ״לֵךְ חֲזֵק וּקְנִי״ – הָכִי נָמֵי; הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן – דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״לֵךְ מְשׁוֹךְ וּקְנֵי״;

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Ashi said:** The Rabbis agree that it is possible to effect acquisition in the public domain through the act of passing. Therefore, **if** it is a case **where** the seller **says to him: Go take possession and** thereby **effect acquisition, so too** he can effect acquisition through the act of passing, and does not need to pull it. **Here** the Rabbis disagree with Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, as **we are dealing with** a case **where** the seller **says to him: Go pull and** thereby **effect acquisition** of it.


###### Bava Batra 76b:7
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מָר סָבַר: קְפִידָא, וּמָר סָבַר: מַרְאֶה מָקוֹם הוּא לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Ashi elaborates: One **Sage,** the Rabbis, **holds** that the seller is **particular** about the method by which the item is acquired, and therefore it can be acquired only through pulling. **And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, **holds** that the seller is merely **indicating the manner to him,** i.e., he advises him to use this act of acquisition but he does not mind if the buyer prefers to perform a different act of acquisition.


###### Bava Batra 76b:8
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אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: הַאי מַאן דִּמְזַבֵּין לֵיהּ שְׁטָרָא לְחַבְרֵיהּ, צָרִיךְ לְמִיכְתַּב לֵיהּ: ״קְנִי הוּא – וְכׇל שִׁעְבּוּדָא דְּבֵיהּ״. אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: אַמְרִיתַהּ לִשְׁמַעְתָּא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב כָּהֲנָא, וַאֲמַרִית לֵיהּ: טַעְמָא דִּכְתַב לֵיהּ הָכִי, הָא לָא כְּתַב לֵיהּ הָכִי – לָא קָנֵי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara returns to the issues of acquiring promissory notes. **Rav Pappa says: One who sells** a promissory **note to another must write to him: Acquire it and all liens on property that are** contained **within it. Rav Ashi said: I stated** this ***halakha* before Rav Kahana, and I said to him** the following analysis: **The reason** the buyer acquires it is **that** the seller **wrote this for him.** This indicates that if **he did not write this for him,** the buyer **does not acquire** the monetary rights recorded in the promissory note.


###### Bava Batra 76b:9
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וְכִי לָצוֹר עַל פִּי צְלוֹחִיתוֹ הוּא צָרִיךְ?! אָמַר לִי: אִין; לָצוֹר וְלָצוֹר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Ashi asks: Why, then, did he purchase the promissory note? **But does he require** it **to tie around the mouth of his flask** as a stopper? Clearly, he purchased the document for the purpose of collecting the debt recorded in it. Rav Pappa **said to me: Yes,** it is possible that he purchased the promissory note in order **to tie** it around his flask. Since the owner did not transfer ownership of the obligation recorded in the promissory note, the buyer acquires only the paper itself.