## Bava Batra Daf 85a

###### Bava Batra 85a:1
[Bava Batra 85a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/85a:1)

כִּלְיוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם קוֹנֶה לוֹ בְּכׇל מָקוֹם, חוּץ מֵרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים. וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ דְּאָמְרִי תַּרְוַיְיהוּ: אֲפִילּוּ בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**A person’s vessels effect acquisition** of any item placed inside them **for him, in any place** in which they are situated, **except for the public domain. And Rabbi Yoḥanan and Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish both say: Even in the public domain,** one’s vessels effect acquisition of items placed in them.


###### Bava Batra 85a:2
[Bava Batra 85a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/85a:2)

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: לָא פְּלִיגִי; כָּאן בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים, כָּאן בְּסִימְטָא. וְאַמַּאי קָרוּ לַהּ רְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים? שֶׁאֵין רְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappa said:** These *amora’im* **do not disagree: Here,** when Rav and Shmuel state that one’s vessel does not effect acquisition for him, they are speaking of a vessel placed **in the public domain; there,** when Rabbi Yoḥanan and Reish Lakish state that his vessel effects acquisition on his behalf, they are referring to a vessel located **in an alleyway. And why do they call** an alleyway **the public domain?** The reason is **that** an alleyway is **not a private domain.**


###### Bava Batra 85a:3
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הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא, דְּאָמַר רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: כִּלְיוֹ שֶׁל אָדָם קוֹנֶה לוֹ בְּכׇל מָקוֹם שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ רְשׁוּת לְהַנִּיחוֹ. יֵשׁ לוֹ רְשׁוּת – אִין, אֵין לוֹ רְשׁוּת – לָא. שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara points out: **So, too, it is reasonable** to interpret Rabbi Yoḥanan’s statement in this manner, **as Rabbi Abbahu says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A person’s vessels effect acquisition for him in any place where he has permission to keep them.** It can be inferred from here: In a location where **he has permission** to keep them, **yes,** his vessels effect acquisition for him. But in a place where **he does not have permission** to keep his vessels, they do **not** effect acquisition for him, and one has permission to keep his vessels in an alleyway but not in the public domain. The Gemara affirms: **Conclude from** this statement that when Rabbi Yoḥanan referred to the public domain he meant an alleyway.


###### Bava Batra 85a:4
[Bava Batra 85a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/85a:4)

תָּא שְׁמַע, אַרְבַּע מִדּוֹת בַּמּוֹכְרִין: עַד שֶׁלֹּא נִתְמַלְּאָה מִדָּה – לַמּוֹכֵר, מִשֶּׁנִּתְמַלְּאָה מִדָּה – לַלּוֹקֵחַ. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים – בְּמִדָּה שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁל שְׁנֵיהֶן, אֲבָל אִם הָיְתָה מִדָּה שֶׁל אֶחָד מֵהֶן – רִאשׁוֹן רִאשׁוֹן – קָנָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** a difficulty from a *baraita*: There are **four cases with regard to sellers,** i.e., four methods through which merchandise is acquired. When the seller measures merchandise for the buyer, **before the measuring** vessel **has been filled** the merchandise in the vessel still belongs **to the seller** and he can change his mind and cancel the sale. **Once the measuring** vessel **has been filled** the merchandise belongs **to the buyer. In what** case **is this statement said?** It is said when the seller measures **with a measuring** vessel **that does not belong to either of them. But if the measuring** vessel **belonged to one of them,** the buyer **acquires** the items of sale **one** by **one** as they are placed in the measuring vessel.


###### Bava Batra 85a:5
[Bava Batra 85a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Batra/r/85a:5)

בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים – בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים וּבְחָצֵר שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁל שְׁנֵיהֶן, אֲבָל בִּרְשׁוּת מוֹכֵר – לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיַּגְבִּיהֶנָּה אוֹ עַד שֶׁיּוֹצִיאֶנָּה מֵרְשׁוּתוֹ. בִּרְשׁוּת לוֹקֵחַ – כֵּיוָן שֶׁקִּבֵּל עָלָיו מוֹכֵר, קָנָה לוֹקֵחַ. בִּרְשׁוּת הַלָּה הַמּוּפְקָדִים אֶצְלוֹ – לֹא קָנָה עַד שֶׁיְּקַבֵּל עָלָיו, אוֹ עַד שֶׁיִּשְׂכּוֹר אֶת מְקוֹמָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In what** case **is this statement said?** It is said when the seller measures the items **in the public domain or in a courtyard that does not belong to either of them. But** if it happens **in the domain of** the **seller,** the buyer **does not acquire** the merchandise **until he lifts** the measuring vessel **or until he moves it out of the domain** of the seller. If it is **in the domain of** the **buyer, once** the **seller accepts upon himself** to sell, the **buyer acquires** it. If the merchandise is located **in the domain of this** individual **with whom it had been deposited,** the buyer **does not acquire** it **until** the bailee **accepts upon himself** to designate a place where the merchandise is to be stored for the buyer, **or until** the buyer **rents** from the bailee **the place** where the merchandise is situated.


###### Bava Batra 85a:6
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קָתָנֵי מִיהָא, בִּרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים וּבְחָצֵר שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁל שְׁנֵיהֶן;

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In any event,** this *baraita* **teaches with regard to** a transaction in **the public domain or in a courtyard that does not belong to either of them** that if the measuring vessel belonged to one of them, the buyer acquires the items of sale one by one as they are placed in the vessel.