## Bava Kamma Daf 80b

###### Bava Kamma 80b:1
[Bava Kamma 80b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:1)

שְׁמוּאֵל לָא עָיֵיל קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב אַסִּי, רַב אַסִּי לָא עָיֵיל קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב. אָמְרִי: מַאן נִתָּרַח? נִתָּרַח שְׁמוּאֵל וְנֵיתֵי רַב וְרַב אַסִּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Shmuel would not enter before Rav Asi,** as he considered Rav Asi to be greater than he; and **Rav Asi would not enter before Rav,** as Rav was his teacher. **They said: Which** of us **should stay behind** and let the other two come in before him? They decided: **Let Shmuel stay behind, and let Rav and Rav Asi come** inside in that order. Afterward, Shmuel himself would enter.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:2
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וְנִתָּרַח רַב אוֹ רַב אַסִּי! רַב – מִילְּתָא בְּעָלְמָא הוּא דַּעֲבַד לֵיהּ לִשְׁמוּאֵל; מִשּׁוּם הָהוּא מַעֲשֶׂה דְּלַטְיֵיהּ, אַדְבְּרֵיהּ רַב עֲלֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** why didn’t they decide to **let Rav or Rav Asi stay behind?** The Gemara explains: It was **a mere gesture that Rav performed for Shmuel** in initially stating that Shmuel should precede him, as Rav did not really feel that Shmuel was superior to him. Rather, **on account of that incident** in **which** he inadvertently **cursed** Shmuel, **Rav took upon himself** to treat Shmuel with deference.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:3
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אַדְּהָכִי וְהָכִי, אֲתָא שׁוּנָרָא קַטְעֵיהּ לִידָא דְּיָנוֹקָא. נְפַק רַב וּדְרַשׁ: חָתוּל – מוּתָּר לְהוֹרְגוֹ, וְאָסוּר לְקַיְּימוֹ, וְאֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם גָּזֵל, וְאֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם הָשֵׁב אֲבֵידָה לַבְּעָלִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In the meantime,** while all this was going on, **a cat [*shunara*] came and severed the hand of the baby. Rav emerged** from the house **and taught:** With regard to **a cat, it is permitted to kill it** even if it is privately owned; **and it is prohibited to maintain it** in one’s possession; **and it is not subject to** the prohibition against **theft** if one takes it from its owner; **and,** in the case of a lost cat, **it is not subject to** the obligation of **returning a lost item to its owner.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:4
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וְכֵיוָן דְּאָמְרַתְּ ״מוּתָּר לְהוֹרְגוֹ״, מַאי נִיהוּ תּוּ ״אָסוּר לְקַיְּימוֹ״? מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: מוּתָּר לְהוֹרְגוֹ, אִיסּוּרָא לֵיכָּא; קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks a question with regard to Rav’s statement: **And since you said** that **it is permitted to kill it, what is** the need to state **further** that **it is prohibited to maintain it** in one’s possession? If a cat is considered such a dangerous animal that it is permitted to kill it, of course one cannot keep it in his possession. The Gemara answers: **Lest you say** that although Rav ruled that **it is permitted to kill it,** he concedes that **there is no prohibition** in keeping it, Rav therefore **teaches us** that it is also prohibited to keep it in one’s possession.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:5
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אָמְרִי: וְכֵיוָן דְּאָמְרַתְּ ״אֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם גָּזֵל״, מַאי נִיהוּ תּוּ ״אֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם הָשֵׁב אֲבֵידָה לַבְּעָלִים״? אָמַר רָבִינָא: לְעוֹרוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Sages **say,** further questioning Rav’s statement: **And since you said** that **it is not subject to** the prohibition against **theft** if one takes it from its owner, **what is** the need to state **further** that **it is not subject to** the obligation of **returning a lost item to its owner** in the case of a lost cat? If one may actively steal a cat, certainly there is no obligation to return it when found. **Ravina said** in response: Rav was referring **to its hide.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:6
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מֵיתִיבִי, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: מְגַדְּלִין כְּלָבִים כּוּפְרִין, וַחֲתוּלִין, וְקוֹפִין, וְחוּלְדּוֹת סְנָאִים – מִפְּנֵי שֶׁעֲשׂוּיִין לְנַקֵּר אֶת הַבַּיִת! לָא קַשְׁיָא; הָא בְּאוּכָּמָא, הָא בְּחִיוּוֹרָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection** from a *baraita* against Rav’s ruling that it is prohibited to keep a cat. **Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: One may raise village dogs, cats, monkeys, and genets, because they serve to clean the house** of mice and other vermin. The Gemara resolves the apparent contradiction: It is **not difficult. This** ruling in the *baraita* is stated **with regard to a black** cat, which is harmless, whereas **that** ruling of Rav is stated **with regard to a white** cat, which is dangerous.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:7
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וְהָא מַעֲשֶׂה דְּרַב – אוּכָּמָא הֲוָה! הָתָם – אוּכָּמָא בַּר חִיוָּרָא הֲוָה. וְהָא מִבְעָיא בָּעֵיא לֵיהּ רָבִינָא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara raises a difficulty against this answer: **But** in **the incident of Rav** it **was a black** cat. Since this cat severed the baby’s hand, it was obviously a vicious, dangerous animal. The Gemara answers: **There it was a black** cat, but it was **the offspring of a white** one. The offspring of a white cat is dangerous, even if it itself is black. The Gemara further objects: **But didn’t Ravina raise this** very issue **as a dilemma?**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:8
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דְּבָעֵי רָבִינָא: אוּכָּמָא בַּר חִיוָּרָא, מַהוּ? כִּי קָמִבַּעְיָא לֵיהּ לְרָבִינָא – בְּאוּכָּמָא בַּר חִיוָּרָא בַּר אוּכָּמָא; מַעֲשֶׂה דְּרַב – בְּאוּכָּמָא בַּר חִיוָּרָא בַּר חִיוָּרָא הֲוָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**As Ravina raised a dilemma: What is** the *halakha* with regard to **a black** cat that is **the offspring of a white** one? Is it also dangerous like its parent? The Gemara answers: **When Ravina raised the dilemma,** it was **with regard to a black** cat that is **the offspring of a white** cat that itself is **the offspring of a black** cat. By contrast, in **the incident with Rav** it **was a black** cat that was **the offspring of a white** one, which was itself **the offspring of a white** cat. That animal is definitely dangerous.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:9
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(חב״ד בי״ח בח״ן – סִימָן.) אָמַר רַבִּי אַחָא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי אַבָּא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי אַדָּא בַּר פָּפָּא, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: אָמַר רַבִּי אַבָּא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי אַחָא בַּר פָּפָּא, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ: אָמַר רַבִּי אַבָּא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי אַחָא בַּר פָּפָּא מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי חֲנִינָא בַּר פָּפָּא:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara provides **a mnemonic** device for the distinguishing letters in the various names of the sons of Rav Pappa in the ensuing list: ***Ḥet beit dalet*, *beit yod ḥet*, *beit ḥet nun*. Rabbi Aḥa bar Pappa says** the following three statements **in the name of Rabbi Abba bar Pappa,** who said them **in the name of Rabbi Adda bar Pappa. And some say Rabbi Abba bar Pappa says** them **in the name of Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Pappa,** who said them **in the name of Rabbi Aḥa bar Pappa. And some say Rabbi Abba bar Pappa says** them **in the name of Rabbi Aḥa bar Pappa,** who said them **in the name of Rabbi Ḥanina bar Pappa.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:10
[Bava Kamma 80b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:10)

מַתְרִיעִין עַל הַחִיכּוּךְ בְּשַׁבָּת, וְדֶלֶת הַנִּנְעֶלֶת לֹא בִּמְהֵרָה תִּפָּתַח, וְהַלּוֹקֵחַ בַּיִת בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל – כּוֹתְבִין עָלָיו אוֹנוֹ אֲפִילּוּ בְּשַׁבָּת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The three statements are as follows: The court **sounds the alarm on Shabbat over** a breakout of **sores; and a door that is locked will not be opened quickly; and** with regard to **one who purchases a house in Eretz Yisrael, one writes a bill of sale for** this transaction **even on Shabbat.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:11
[Bava Kamma 80b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:11)

מֵיתִיבִי: וּשְׁאָר פּוּרְעָנִיּוֹת הַמִּתְרַגְּשׁוֹת וּבָאוֹת עַל הַצִּבּוּר – כְּגוֹן חִיכּוּךְ, חָגָב, זְבוּב, צִירְעָה וְיַתּוּשׁ, וְשִׁילּוּחַ נְחָשִׁים וְעַקְרַבִּים – לֹא הָיוּ מַתְרִיעִין, אֶלָּא צוֹעֲקִים!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection** from a *baraita*: After explaining how the public engages in prayer when there is a drought, the *baraita* teaches: **And** with regard to **all other types of calamities that break out upon the community,** other than drought, **such as sores,** a plague of **locusts, flies, hornets, or mosquitoes, or infestations of snakes or scorpions,** the court **would not sound the alarm** on Shabbat, **but** the people would **cry out.** This indicates that it is not proper to sound the alarm on Shabbat for an epidemic of sores.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:12
[Bava Kamma 80b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:12)

לָא קַשְׁיָא; כָּאן בְּלַח, כָּאן בְּיָבֵשׁ. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי: שְׁחִין שֶׁהֵבִיא הַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא עַל הַמִּצְרִים – לַח מִבַּחוּץ וְיָבֵשׁ מִבִּפְנִים, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״וַיְהִי שְׁחִין אֲבַעְבֻּעֹת פּוֹרֵחַ בָּאָדָם וּבַבְּהֵמָה״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: This is **not difficult. Here** it is referring **to moist** sores; whereas **there** it is referring **to dry** sores, which are more dangerous than moist ones. **As Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi says:** The **boils that the Holy One, Blessed be He, brought upon the Egyptians** were **moist on the outside and dry on the inside, as it is stated: “And it became a boil breaking out with oozing upon man and upon beast”** (Exodus 9:10). The phrase “breaking out” is referring to the exterior of the wound. Since the verse specifies that the outside was oozing with secretions, it can be inferred that the inside was dry. This indicates that the sores can be of either type.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:13
[Bava Kamma 80b:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:13)

״וְדֶלֶת הַנִּנְעֶלֶת לֹא בִּמְהֵרָה תִּפָּתַח״, מַאי הִיא? מָר זוּטְרָא אָמַר: סְמִיכָה. רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: כׇּל הַמְּרִיעִין לוֹ, לֹא בִּמְהֵרָה מְטִיבִין לוֹ. רַב אַחָא מִדִּיפְתִּי אָמַר: לְעוֹלָם אֵין מְטִיבִין לוֹ. וְלָא הִיא, רַב אַחָא מִדִּיפְתִּי מִילְּתָא דְּנַפְשֵׁיהּ הוּא דְּאָמַר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara analyzes the second of the three statements: **And a door that is locked will not be opened quickly.** This is clearly a metaphor, but to **what is it** referring? **Mar Zutra said:** It is a metaphor for rabbinic **ordination.** If one meets with resistance in his quest to receive ordination, he should take it as a sign that this opportunity will not soon open up for him again. **Rav Ashi said:** It means that **anyone who is treated poorly will not soon be treated well. Rav Aḥa of Difti said: He will never be treated well.** The Gemara comments: **But** that **is not so; Rav Aḥa of Difti was saying** only **a matter** that reflected what had occurred **to him.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:14
[Bava Kamma 80b:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:14)

וְהַלּוֹקֵחַ בַּיִת בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל – כּוֹתְבִין עָלָיו אוֹנוֹ אֲפִילּוּ בְּשַׁבָּת. בְּשַׁבָּת סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara turns its attention to the third statement: **And** with regard to **one who purchases a house in Eretz Yisrael, one writes a bill of sale for** this transaction **even on Shabbat.** The Gemara asks: Can it **enter your mind** that one may write this bill of sale **on Shabbat?** Writing on Shabbat is a prohibited labor for which one is liable to receive the death penalty.


###### Bava Kamma 80b:15
[Bava Kamma 80b:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:15)

אֶלָּא כִּדְאָמַר רָבָא הָתָם: אוֹמֵר לְגוֹי וְעוֹשֶׂה; הָכִי נָמֵי, אוֹמֵר לְגוֹי וְעוֹשֶׂה. וְאַף עַל גַּב דַּאֲמִירָה לְגוֹי שְׁבוּת הִיא, מִשּׁוּם יִשּׁוּב אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל לָא גְּזַרוּ בֵּיהּ רַבָּנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara explains: **Rather,** this is **as Rava said there,** with regard to a similar issue, that one **tells a gentile** to do it, **and he does** so. **Here, too,** it is referring to a situation where he **tells a gentile** to write a bill of sale for the house, **and he does** it. **And even though telling a gentile** to perform an action that is prohibited for a Jew on Shabbat **is** generally a violation of **a rabbinic decree,** as the Sages prohibited telling a gentile to perform prohibited labor on behalf of a Jew on Shabbat, here **the Sages did not** impose this **decree, due to** the mitzva of **settling Eretz Yisrael.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:16
[Bava Kamma 80b:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:16)

אָמַר רַבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר נַחְמָנִי אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹנָתָן: הַלּוֹקֵחַ עִיר בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל, כּוֹפִין אוֹתוֹ לִיקַּח לָהּ דֶּרֶךְ מֵאַרְבַּע רוּחוֹתֶיהָ, מִשּׁוּם יִשּׁוּב אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani says** that **Rabbi Yonatan says:** With regard to **one who purchases a city in Eretz Yisrael,** the court **forces him to purchase a path to** the city **from** all **four** of **its sides, due to** the importance of **settling Eretz Yisrael.**


###### Bava Kamma 80b:17
[Bava Kamma 80b:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Bava%20Kamma/r/80b:17)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן, עֲשָׂרָה תְּנָאִין הִתְנָה יְהוֹשֻׁעַ:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: **Joshua stipulated ten conditions** when he apportioned Eretz Yisrael among the tribes: