## Bava Metzia Daf 42b

###### Bava Metzia 42b:1
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כׇּל הַמַּפְקִיד, עַל דַּעַת אִשְׁתּוֹ וּבָנָיו הוּא מַפְקִיד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to **anyone who deposits** an item with another, it is **with the awareness** that at times, the bailee’s **wife and his children** will safeguard the item that **he deposits** it. Therefore, I was within my rights to give the deposit to my mother.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:2
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נֵימָא לַהּ לְאִימֵּיהּ: זִילִי שַׁלִּימִי, אָמְרָה: לָא אֲמַר לִי דְּלָאו דִּידֵיהּ נִינְהוּ דְּאֶקְבְּרִינְהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let us say to his mother: Go** and **pay.** She can **say:** My son **did not tell me that** the money **is not his** so **that I should bury it,** which is the optimal method to safeguard money.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:3
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נֵימָא לֵיהּ: אַמַּאי לָא אֲמַרְתְּ לַהּ? אָמַר: כׇּל שֶׁכֵּן, דְּכִי אָמֵינָא לַהּ דְּדִידִי נִינְהוּ – טְפֵי מִזְדַּהֲרָא בְּהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let us say to** the bailee: **Why did you not say to her** that the money is not yours? **He** can **say: All the more so** that my omission of this information was preferable, **as when I say to her that** the money **is mine, she is** even **more careful with it.**


###### Bava Metzia 42b:4
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אֶלָּא אָמַר רָבָא: מִשְׁתְּבַע אִיהוּ דְּהָנְהוּ זוּזֵי אַשְׁלְמִינְהוּ לְאִימֵּיהּ, וּמִשְׁתַּבְעָא אִימֵּיהּ דְּהָנְהוּ זוּזֵי אוֹתְבִינְהוּ בְּקַרְטְלִיתָא וְאִיגְּנוּב – וּפָטוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, Rava said:** The bailee **takes an oath that he gave** the money **to his mother, and his mother takes an oath that she placed the money in the chest and it was stolen, and** the bailee is **exempt** from payment.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:5
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הָהוּא אַפּוֹטְרוֹפָּא דְיַתְמֵי דִּזְבַן לְהוּ תּוֹרָא לְיַתְמֵי וּמַסְרֵיהּ לְבַקָּרָא. לָא הֲווֹ לֵיהּ כַּכֵּי וְשִׁינֵּי לְמֵיכַל, וּמִית. אָמַר רָמֵי בַּר חָמָא: הֵיכִי נְדַיְינוּ דַּיָּינֵי לְהַאי דִּינָא?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: There was **a certain steward** who acted on behalf **of orphans, who purchased an ox for the orphans and passed it to the cowherd.** This ox **did not have molars and** other **teeth with which to eat, and** the ox **died** because it was unable to eat the standard food of oxen. **Rami bar Ḥama said: How should judges rule in this case?**


###### Bava Metzia 42b:6
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נֵימָא לֵיהּ לְאַפּוֹטְרוֹפָּא: זִיל שַׁלֵּים, אָמַר: אֲנָא לְבַקָּרָא מְסַרְתֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let them say to the steward: Go pay** for the dead ox. But he can **say: I gave it to the cowherd** with the expectation that he would care for it.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:7
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נֵימָא לֵיהּ לְבַקָּרָא: זִיל שַׁלֵּים, אָמַר: אֲנָא בַּהֲדֵי תּוֹרֵי אוֹקֵימְתֵּיהּ, אוּכְלָא שְׁדַאי לֵיהּ, לָא הֲוָה יָדַעְינָא דְּלָא אֲכַל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let us say to the cowherd: Go pay** for the dead ox. **He** can **say: I placed** the ox **with** other **oxen and I threw food before it. We did not know that it did not eat.**


###### Bava Metzia 42b:8
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מִכְּדֵי בַּקָּרָא שׁוֹמֵר שָׂכָר דְּיַתְמֵי הוּא! אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְעַיּוֹנֵי אִי אִיכָּא פְּסֵידָא דְיַתְמֵי. הָכִי נָמֵי, וְהָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן – דְּלֵיכָּא פְּסֵידָא דְיַתְמֵי, דְּאַשְׁכְּחוּהּ לְמָרֵיהּ דְּתוֹרָא וּשְׁקוּל יַתְמֵי זוּזֵי מִינֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **After all, the cowherd is a paid bailee of the orphans.** Therefore, **he was required to examine** the situation and ascertain if the ox was eating. The Gemara answers: **If there was loss for the orphans, indeed,** the cowherd would be liable to pay. **And with what are we dealing here?** It is a case **where there is no loss** incurred **by the orphans, as they found the** previous **owner of the ox,** who sold it to them, **and the orphans took** their **money** back **from him** after discovering that the ox had this deficiency.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:9
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אֶלָּא מַאן קָא טָעֵין? מָרֵיהּ דְּתוֹרָא קָטָעֵין. אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְאוֹדוֹעַן! מַאי מוֹדְעִינַן לֵיהּ? מִידָּע יָדַע דְּמִקָּח טָעוּת הָוֵי. בְּסַפְסֵירָא דְּזָבֵן מֵהָכָא וּמְזַבֵּין לְהָכָא, הִלְכָּךְ מִישְׁתְּבַע אִיהוּ דְּלָא הֲוָה יָדַע, וּמְשַׁלֵּם בַּקָּרָא דְּמֵי בָשָׂר בְּזוֹל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Rather, who** then **claims** compensation from the cowherd? **The** previous **owner of the ox claims** compensation from the steward: **He should have informed us** that the ox was not eating. The Gemara answers: **What** would **we inform** the previous owner? **He knows that it is a mistaken transaction,** as he would be aware that the ox had no teeth. The Gemara explains: This is a case **with regard to a trader who buys from here and sells to there** and does not know the condition of the ox. **Therefore,** the trader **takes an oath** that **he did not know** about the ox’s defect, **and the cowherd pays the value of the meat** of the ox **based on** the **cheapest** price available in the market.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:10
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הָהוּא גַּבְרָא דְּאַפְקֵיד כְּשׁוּתָא גַּבֵּי חַבְרֵיהּ, הֲוָה לֵיהּ לְדִידֵיהּ נָמֵי כַּרְיָא דִכְשׁוּתָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ לְסַרְסְיֵהּ: מֵהַאי רְמֵי. אֲזַל רְמָא מֵאִידַּךְ. אָמַר רַב עַמְרָם: הֵיכִי נְדַיְינוּ דַּיָּינֵי לְהַאי דִּינָא?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: There was **a certain man who deposited hops,** used in the production of beer, **with another.** The bailee **himself had a pile of hops.** The bailee **said to his brewer: Cast** hops in the beer **from this** pile. The brewer **went and cast from** the **other** pile, the pile of the one who deposited the hops, into the beer. **Rav Amram said: How should judges rule in this case?**


###### Bava Metzia 42b:11
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נֵימָא לֵיהּ לְדִידֵיהּ: זִיל שַׁלֵּים, אָמַר: אֲנָא אָמְרִי לֵיהּ מֵהַאי רְמִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let us say to** the bailee: **Go pay.** But he can **say: I said to him,** i.e., the brewer: **Cast** hops **from this** pile, and I am not at fault.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:12
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נֵימָא לֵיהּ לְסַרְסְיֵהּ: זִיל שַׁלֵּים, אָמַר: לָא אֲמַר לִי מֵהַאי רְמִי וּמֵהַאי לָא תִּרְמֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Let us say to the brewer: Go pay.** He can **say:** The bailee **did not say to me: Cast** hops **from this** pile **and do not cast** hops **from that** pile. I thought he was merely giving advice, and I did not know that he was insistent that I refrain from using the other hops.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:13
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וְאִי דִּשְׁהָא שִׁיעוּר לְאֵיתוֹיֵי לֵיהּ וְלָא אַיְיתִי לֵיהּ – גַּלִּי אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּנִיחָא לֵיהּ! בִּדְלָא שְׁהָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **And** if the hops of the bailee were closer to where he and the brewer were located than those that were deposited with him, the bailee should be liable. As, **if** the brewer **delayed** bringing the hops for the **period** of time that it would take **to bring** the bailee hops from his own pile **and he did not** yet **bring them to him,** it is assumed that the bailee understood that the brewer had gone to bring the more distant, deposited, hops. By not objecting, the bailee **revealed that he was amenable** to brewing the beer from the deposited hops. The Gemara answers: This is a case **where he did not delay** bringing the hops, or alternatively, the two piles were equidistant from him.


###### Bava Metzia 42b:14
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סוֹף סוֹף, מַאי פְּסֵידָא אִיכָּא? וְהָא קָא מִשְׁתָּרְשִׁי לֵיהּ! אָמַר רַב סַמָּא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרָבָא: דַּהֲוָה שִׁיכְרָא חַלָּא. רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: בְּכִיסֵי,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Ultimately, what loss is there? But doesn’t** the bailee **profit** in this case? Let the bailee give the owner beer equal to the value of the hops that he took from the deposit and no one loses. **Rav Sama, son of Rava, said:** The Gemara is referring to a case **where the beer** ferments and **becomes vinegar.** Therefore, it is impossible to take the value of the hops from the beer. **Rav Ashi said:** It is referring to a case where the hops were mixed **with thorns** and did not enhance the beer.