## Beitzah Daf 13a

###### Beitzah 13a:1
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הָא רַבִּי, הָא רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה. דְּתַנְיָא: הִכְנִיס שִׁבֳּלִין לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן עִיסָּה — אוֹכֵל מֵהֶן עֲרַאי, וּפָטוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**This** source, the *baraita*, is in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, who holds that one must separate *teruma* from kernels of grain on the stalk, and one may separate *terumot* on a Festival. **That** source, the mishna, is in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda,** who maintains that there is no need to separate *teruma* from kernels of grain on the stalk, **as it is taught** in a *baraita*: If one **brought inside** his house **stalks** of grain in order to grind them into flour and **to make dough from them, he may eat from them, as a snack,** before they are ground, **and he is exempt** from *teruma*. Provided that the grain has not yet been fully processed, the obligation to separate *teruma* does not apply. The Sages decreed that such produce may only be consumed casually and not as part of a regular meal.


###### Beitzah 13a:2
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לְמוֹלְלָן בִּמְלִילוֹת — רַבִּי מְחַיֵּיב וְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה פּוֹטֵר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
However, if from the outset one brought in the stalks of grain not to grind them but **to husk the kernels** and eat them a little at a time, **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **obligates** him to separate *teruma* from them and prohibits him from partaking of the grain until he has done so. **And Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, exempts** him from the obligation of *teruma*. He maintains that not even this intention renders one obligated to separate *teruma*, as the obligation for *teruma* applies only to fully processed grain.


###### Beitzah 13a:3
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וּלְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה נָמֵי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ — כְּגוֹן שֶׁהִכְנִיס שִׁבֳּלִין לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן עִיסָּה, וְנִמְלַךְ עֲלֵיהֶן לְמוֹלְלָן בְּיוֹם טוֹב, דְּטָבְלָא בְּיוֹמֵיהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges this: **And according to** the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda,** you can **also find** a case when one must separate *teruma* from grain that has not been fully processed. How so? **For example, if one brought inside** his house **stalks of grain to make dough from them,** thereby rendering himself obligated to separate *teruma* from them, **and he reconsidered** and decided **to husk them** in order to eat the kernels **on a Festival.** In **that** case, the prohibition of **untithed** produce takes effect **on that day** and one is obligated to separate *teruma*, only afterward is he permitted to eat the kernels.


###### Beitzah 13a:4
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אֶלָּא: מַאי תְּרוּמָה — רוֹב תְּרוּמָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** one must say: **What is** the ***teruma*** that Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel agree may not be separated on a Festival? It is referring to **most *teruma*,** e.g., grain that has been threshed and gathered into piles on the eve of the Festival. They do, however, admit that there are exceptional cases in which one may separate *teruma* on a Festival.


###### Beitzah 13a:5
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אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשִׁבֳּלִין. אֲבָל בְּקִטְנִיּוֹת — דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל אִסּוּרְיָיתָא טָבְלָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said:** This **dispute,** concerning when the obligation to separate *teruma* and the prohibition of untithed produce takes effect, is referring only **to stalks** of grain, which are typically brought into a granary, where they are processed in a standard manner. Until that point, the grain is not prohibited as untithed produce. **However,** with regard to **legumes, everyone agrees** that the **bundles** are already regarded as **untithed produce,** and *teruma* must be separated from them at that stage.


###### Beitzah 13a:6
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לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ: מִי שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ חֲבִילֵי תִלְתָּן שֶׁל טֶבֶל — הֲרֵי זֶה כּוֹתֵשׁ, וּמְחַשֵּׁב כַּמָּה זֶרַע יֵשׁ בָּהֶם, וּמַפְרִישׁ עַל הַזֶּרַע וְאֵינוֹ מַפְרִישׁ עַל הָעֵץ. מַאי לָאו — רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה הִיא, דְּאָמַר: הָתָם לָא טָבְלָא הָכָא טָבְלָא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Let us say that** the following mishna **supports him** (*Terumot* 10:6): With regard to **one who had bundles of fenugreek,** a type of legume, **of untithed produce, he may pound** these bundles to remove the seeds from them. **And he calculates how many seeds** the bundles **contain and separates *teruma*** based **on the** quantity of **seeds, but** he **does not** calculate and **separate** *teruma* based **on the** quantity of **stalks.** Although the stalks and leaves are also used for cooking, it is not necessary to separate *teruma* from them. **What, is it not** the case that this *halakha* **is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, who said: There,** with regard to stalks of grain, it is **not** yet ready to be tithed, and therefore not prohibited as **untithed produce,** whereas **here,** i.e., with regard to the bundles of fenugreek, it is ready to be tithed and therefore prohibited as **untithed produce?**


###### Beitzah 13a:7
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לָא, רַבִּי הִיא. אִי רַבִּי הִיא, מַאי אִירְיָא תִּלְתָּן, אֲפִילּוּ שִׁבֳּלִין נָמֵי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this contention: **No,** this is no proof, as it can be claimed that the mishna dealing with fenugreek **is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, who obligates one to separate *teruma* in the case of stalks of grain. The Gemara challenges this: **If it is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, what novel element does the mishna provide? **Why specifically** discuss **fenugreek?** According to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, the same *halakha* applies **even to stalks** of grain **as well.**


###### Beitzah 13a:8
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אֶלָּא מַאי, רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה — לַשְׁמְעִינַן שְׁאָר מִינֵי קִטְנִיּוֹת, וְכׇל שֶׁכֵּן תִּלְתָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this: **Rather, what** then? Is the mishna in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda?** If so, **let him teach us** this *halakha* with regard to **other types of legumes,** i.e., that they have the status of untithed produce when placed in bundles. **And all the more so** this would apply to **fenugreek,** which is eaten only in small quantities and is not processed in the manner of grain.


###### Beitzah 13a:9
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אֶלָּא תִּלְתָּן אִצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ. סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: הוֹאִיל וְטַעַם עֵצוֹ וּפִרְיוֹ שָׁוֶה, לִפְרוֹשׁ נָמֵי אַעֵצוֹ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** it cannot be proven that the mishna follows either the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, or that of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, as it **was necessary** for the *tanna* to state the case of **fenugreek** for a different reason: It could **enter your mind to say: Since** in the case of fenugreek **the taste of its stalk and its fruit** are **identical,** as the branches of the fenugreek add flavor to a dish, perhaps one should **also separate** *teruma* based **on** the quantity of fenugreek **stalks,** as well. The *tanna* of the mishna therefore **teaches us** that there is no obligation to do so, and this is the novel element of his statement.


###### Beitzah 13a:10
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אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי, אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּשִׁבֳּלִין, אֲבָל בְּקִטְנִיּוֹת דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל אִסּוּרְיָיתָא לָא טָבְלָא. מֵיתִיבִי: מִי שֶׁהָיוּ לוֹ חֲבִילֵי תִלְתָּן שֶׁל טֶבֶל הֲרֵי זֶה כּוֹתֵשׁ, וּמְחַשֵּׁב כַּמָּה זֶרַע יֵשׁ בָּהֶן, וּמַפְרִישׁ עַל הַזֶּרַע וְאֵינוֹ מַפְרִישׁ עַל הָעֵץ. מַאי לָאו, טֶבֶל טָבוּל שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Some say** that **Abaye said** the following: This **dispute** between Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, and Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is referring **to stalks** of grain; **however,** with regard to **legumes, everyone agrees** that the **bundles** are not yet ready to be tithed and are therefore **not** prohibited as **untithed produce.** The Gemara **raises an objection** to this: With regard to **one who had bundles of fenugreek of untithed produce, he may pound** them **and calculate how many seeds they contain and separate *teruma*** based **on the** quantity of **seeds, but he does not separate** based **on the** quantity of **stalks. What, is this not** referring to the normal case of **untithed produce of *teruma*,** i.e., produce from which the regular *teruma*, the initial portion taken from produce as the priests’ portion, must be separated?


###### Beitzah 13a:11
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לָא, טֶבֶל טָבוּל שֶׁל תְּרוּמַת מַעֲשֵׂר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this: **No,** it is referring to a different case, that of first tithe that is still regarded as **untithed produce,** because **of *teruma* of the tithe** that must still be separated from it. First tithe is given to the Levites, who must separate ten percent as *teruma* of the tithe, to give to the priests. Before *teruma* of the tithe is separated, the first tithe may not be eaten.


###### Beitzah 13a:12
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וְכִדְרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ: מַעֲשֵׂר רִאשׁוֹן שֶׁהִקְדִּימוֹ בְּשִׁבֳּלִין,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** this statement is **in accordance with** the opinion **that Rabbi Abbahu** said that **Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said, as Rabbi Abbahu said** that **Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish said:** It can occur that a Levite might take the **first tithe before** the *teruma* is separated, **while** the grain is still **on the stalks.** The correct procedure is: After collecting the grain in a pile in the granary, one first separates *teruma*, and only afterward separates first tithe to give to the Levites.


###### Beitzah 13a:13
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שְׁמוֹ טוֹבְלוֹ לִתְרוּמַת מַעֲשֵׂר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If this order was not followed, and the first tithe was separated first while the grain was still attached to the stalks, Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish maintains that the following *halakha* applies: **Its name,** i.e., the fact that it has been designated first tithe, **renders it** ready to be tithed and therefore prohibited as **untithed produce,** as pertains **to *teruma* of the tithe** that must still be separated from it. This shows that there can be a separation of a type of *teruma*, specifically the *teruma* of the tithe, even before work on the produce has been completed, and this is the case to which the previously quoted mishna is referring.


###### Beitzah 13a:14
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כּוֹתֵשׁ לְמָה לִי? לֵימָא לֵיהּ: כִּי הֵיכִי דִּיהַבוּ לִי, הָכִי יָהֵיבְנָא לָךְ! אֲמַר רָבָא: קְנָסָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges this interpretation: If first tithe is considered untithed produce when it is named, **why do I** need the act of **pounding? Let** the Levite **say to** the priest: **As they gave to me** stalks of grain, or unprepared bundles, **so I am giving** them **to you** in the same state. **Rava said:** It is **a penalty.** In other words, the Levite should indeed be entitled to issue this claim; however, as he acted improperly by taking his tithe prematurely, the Sages decreed that he may not separate the priest’s portion in its current state, but must first improve it.


###### Beitzah 13a:15
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תַּנְיָא נָמֵי הָכִי: בֶּן לֵוִי שֶׁנָּתְנוּ לוֹ שִׁבֳּלִין בְּמַעַשְׂרוֹתָיו — עוֹשֶׂה אוֹתָן גּוֹרֶן, עֲנָבִים — עוֹשֶׂה אוֹתָן יַיִן, זֵיתִים — עוֹשֶׂה אוֹתָן שֶׁמֶן, וּמַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶם תְּרוּמַת מַעֲשֵׂר, וְנוֹתְנָן לַכֹּהֵן. שֶׁכְּשֵׁם שֶׁתְּרוּמָה גְּדוֹלָה אֵינָהּ נִיטֶּלֶת

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **That** opinion **is also taught** in a *baraita*. With regard to **a Levite who was given stalks** of grain **as his tithes, he renders them** into **a granary,** i.e., he must thresh and process them in the usual manner. Similarly, if he was given **grapes, he renders them wine;** if he was given **olives, he renders them oil; and** afterward he **separates *teruma* of the tithe for them and gives them to a priest. For just as *teruma gedola*,** i.e., standard *teruma*, **is not separated** from unprocessed produce,