## Chagigah Daf 6b

###### Chagigah 6b:1
[Chagigah 6b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:1)

וּפְרָטוֹת בְּאֹהֶל מוֹעֵד. וְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: כְּלָלוֹת וּפְרָטוֹת נֶאֶמְרוּ בְּסִינַי, וְנִשְׁנוּ בְּאֹהֶל מוֹעֵד, וְנִשְׁתַּלְּשׁוּ בְּעַרְבוֹת מוֹאָב. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ עוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּמִּדְבָּר — עוֹלַת תָּמִיד הֲוַאי,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And the details** of the mitzvot, e.g., the particulars of the sacrificial process, were said to Moses at a later time **in the Tent of Meeting. And Rabbi Akiva says:** Both **general statements and the details** of mitzvot **were said at Sinai and** later **repeated in the Tent of Meeting, and** reiterated **a third time** by Moses to the Jewish people **in the plains of Moab,** as recorded in the book of Deuteronomy. **And if it enters your mind** to say that Rabbi Yishmael holds that **the burnt**-offering **that the Jewish people sacrificed in the desert** at Mount Sinai **was the daily burnt**-offering, rather than the burnt-offering of an individual, the following question arises:


###### Chagigah 6b:2
[Chagigah 6b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:2)

מִי אִיכָּא מִידֵּי דְּמֵעִיקָּרָא לָא בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ, וּלְבַסּוֹף בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Is there any** offering **that initially did not require skinning and cutting** into pieces, as these details of the daily burnt-offering were transmitted later in the Tent of Meeting, **and ultimately,** when these details were added, the offering **required skinning and cutting?** It is not plausible that the details of a mitzva would change over time. Therefore, it is clear that according to the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael the Jews did not sacrifice the daily burnt-offering before the giving of the Torah, which means that the burnt-offering sacrificed at Mount Sinai must have been a burnt-offering of appearance.


###### Chagigah 6b:3
[Chagigah 6b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:3)

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר — דְּתַנְיָא: ״עוֹלַת תָּמִיד הָעֲשׂוּיָה בְּהַר סִינַי״, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: מַעֲשֶׂיהָ נֶאֶמְרוּ בְּסִינַי, וְהִיא עַצְמָהּ לֹא קָרְבָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara cites the source for the opinion of **Rabbi Elazar. As it is taught** in a *baraita*: **“It is a daily burnt-**offering, **which was performed on Mount Sinai”** (Numbers 28:6). **Rabbi Elazar says:** The details of **its performance were said at Sinai, but it itself was not sacrificed** until the Tabernacle was erected. This indicates that the offering brought on Mount Sinai was a burnt-offering of appearance.


###### Chagigah 6b:4
[Chagigah 6b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:4)

רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: קָרְבָה, וְשׁוּב לֹא פָּסְקָה. אֶלָּא מָה אֲנִי מְקַיֵּים ״הַזְּבָחִים וּמִנְחָה הִגַּשְׁתֶּם לִי בַמִּדְבָּר אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה בֵּית יִשְׂרָאֵל״ —

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Akiva says: It was sacrificed** when they stood at Mount Sinai **and** its sacrifice **never ceased.** The Gemara asks: **But** if so, **how do I uphold,** i.e., how does Rabbi Akiva explain the following verse: **“Did you bring to Me sacrifices and offerings for forty years in the wilderness, house of Israel?”** (Amos 5:25). This verse indicates that they did not sacrifice these offerings.


###### Chagigah 6b:5
[Chagigah 6b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:5)

שִׁבְטוֹ שֶׁל לֵוִי שֶׁלֹּא עָבְדוּ עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה, הֵן הִקְרִיבוּ אוֹתָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **The tribe of Levi, which did not commit** the sin of **idol worship, sacrificed it** from their own funds. Since the rest of the Jewish people did not contribute the funds for the daily burnt-offering, it is as though they did not sacrifice this offering. This concludes the list of sources of the opinions of those Sages who hold that the daily burnt-offering was not sacrificed at Mount Sinai, and the offering that was sacrificed there was a burnt-offering of appearance.


###### Chagigah 6b:6
[Chagigah 6b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:6)

בֵּית הִלֵּל — הָא דַּאֲמַרַן. רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא — הָא נָמֵי דַּאֲמַרַן. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי הַגְּלִילִי — דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי יוֹסֵי הַגְּלִילִי אוֹמֵר: שָׁלֹשׁ מִצְוֹת נִצְטַוּוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּעֲלוֹתָם לָרֶגֶל: רְאִיָּיה, וַחֲגִיגָה, וְשִׂמְחָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara cites the sources for the opinions that the daily burnt-offering was sacrificed at Mount Sinai. **Beit Hillel: That which we said. Rabbi Akiva: Also that which we said,** in the aforementioned dispute with Rabbi Elazar. **Rabbi Yosei HaGelili: As it is taught** in a *baraita* that **Rabbi Yosei HaGelili says: The Jewish people were commanded** to perform **three mitzvot when they ascended** to the Temple **for** the pilgrimage **Festivals:** The burnt-offering of **appearance, and the Festival peace**-offering, **and the** peace-offering of **rejoicing.**


###### Chagigah 6b:7
[Chagigah 6b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:7)

יֵשׁ בָּרְאִיָּיה שֶׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן; וְיֵשׁ בַּחֲגִיגָה שֶׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן; יֵשׁ בַּשִּׂמְחָה שֶׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן. יֵשׁ בָּרְאִיָּיה שֶׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן — שֶׁהָרְאִיָּיה עוֹלָה כּוּלָּהּ לַגָּבוֹהַּ, מַה שֶּׁאֵין כֵּן בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yosei HaGelili continues. **There is** an element **of the** burnt-offering of **appearance that is not** present **in** the other **two; there is** an element **of the Festival peace**-offering **that is not** present **in** the other **two;** and **there is** an element **of the** peace-offering of **rejoicing that is not** present **in** the other **two.** He elaborates: **There is** an element **of the** burnt-offering of **appearance that is not** present **in** the other **two, as the** burnt-offering of **appearance** goes **up entirely to God, which is not so with regard to** the other **two,** as the majority portion of the other two offerings is eaten.


###### Chagigah 6b:8
[Chagigah 6b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:8)

יֵשׁ בַּחֲגִיגָה מַה שֶּׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן, שֶׁחֲגִיגָה יֶשְׁנָהּ לִפְנֵי הַדִּיבּוּר, מַה שֶּׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן. יֵשׁ בַּשִּׂמְחָה מַה שֶּׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן, שֶׁהַשִּׂמְחָה נוֹהֶגֶת בַּאֲנָשִׁים וּבְנָשִׁים, מַה שֶּׁאֵין בִּשְׁתֵּיהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**There is** an element **of the Festival peace**-offering **that is not** present **in** the other **two, as the Festival peace**-offering **existed before the speech** of God at Mount Sinai, **which is not so with regard to** the other **two.** Finally, **there is** an element **of the** peace-offering of **rejoicing that is not** present **in** the other **two, as the** peace-offering of **rejoicing is performed by** both **men and by women, which is not so with regard to** the other **two.** This shows that Rabbi Yosei HaGelili holds that the burnt-offering of appearance was not sacrificed at Mount Sinai, which means that the burnt-offering mentioned in that context must have been the daily burnt-offering.


###### Chagigah 6b:9
[Chagigah 6b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:9)

וְרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, מַאי טַעְמָא קָא מוֹקְמַתְּ לֵיהּ כְּבֵית שַׁמַּאי? אִי סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ עוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּמִּדְבָּר עוֹלַת תָּמִיד הֲוַאי, מִי אִיכָּא מִידֵּי דְּמֵעִיקָּרָא לָא בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ, וּלְבַסּוֹף בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks a question with regard to Abaye’s explanation. **And** with regard to **Rabbi Yishmael, what is the reason** that **you established** his ruling **in accordance with** the opinion of **Beit Shammai** that the burnt-offering sacrificed at Mount Sinai was a burnt-offering of appearance? The explanation for his opinion was: **If it enters your mind** that the **burnt**-offering **the Jewish people sacrificed in the desert was a daily burnt**-offering, **is there any** offering **that initially did not require skinning and cutting** into pieces **and ultimately required skinning and cutting** into pieces?


###### Chagigah 6b:10
[Chagigah 6b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:10)

וְהָא רַבִּי יוֹסֵי הַגְּלִילִי, דְּאָמַר: עוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּמִּדְבָּר — עוֹלַת תָּמִיד הֲוַאי: מֵעִיקָּרָא לָא בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ, וּלְבַסּוֹף בָּעֵי הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But wasn’t** it **Rabbi Yosei HaGelili who said: The burnt**-offering **that the Jewish people sacrificed in the desert** at Mount Sinai **was the daily burnt**-offering? Nevertheless, he holds that **initially** it **did not require skinning and cutting** into pieces, **and ultimately** it **required skinning and cutting** into pieces.


###### Chagigah 6b:11
[Chagigah 6b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:11)

דְּתַנְיָא, רַבִּי יוֹסֵי הַגְּלִילִי אוֹמֵר: עוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּמִּדְבָּר אֵינָהּ טְעוּנָה הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ, לְפִי שֶׁאֵין הֶפְשֵׁט וְנִיתּוּחַ אֶלָּא מֵאֹהֶל מוֹעֵד וְאֵילָךְ! סְמִי מִכָּאן רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**As it is taught** in a *baraita* that **Rabbi Yosei HaGelili says: The burnt-**offering **that the Jewish people sacrificed in the desert did not require skinning and cutting** into pieces, **because** the requirement of **skinning and cutting** offerings applied **only from** the time God commanded this mitzva in **the Tent of Meeting and onward.** The Gemara concludes: There is no clear evidence as to what Rabbi Yishmael actually maintains in this regard, and therefore one should **delete Rabbi Yishmael from** this list **here,** i.e., the list of those who hold that the burnt-offering sacrificed in the desert was a burnt-offering of appearance.


###### Chagigah 6b:12
[Chagigah 6b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:12)

בָּעֵי רַב חִסְדָּא: הַאי קְרָא הֵיכִי כְּתִיב? ״וַיִּשְׁלַח אֶת נַעֲרֵי בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וַיַּעֲלוּ עוֹלוֹת״ — כְּבָשִׂים, ״וַיִּזְבְּחוּ זְבָחִים שְׁלָמִים לַה׳״ — ״פָּרִים״. אוֹ דִּלְמָא: אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי פָּרִים הֲווֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Ḥisda raises a dilemma: This verse, how is it written,** i.e., how should it be understood? Should the following verse be read as two separate halves, with the first part consisting of: **“And he sent the young men of the children of Israel, and they sacrificed burnt-**offerings**”** (Exodus 24:5), which were **sheep;** and the second part consisting of the rest of the verse: **“And they sacrificed peace-**offerings **of bulls to the Lord,”** i.e., these peace-offerings alone were bulls? **Or perhaps both of these** were **bulls,** as the term: “Bulls,” refers both to the burnt-offerings and the peace-offerings.


###### Chagigah 6b:13
[Chagigah 6b:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:13)

לְמַאי נָפְקָא מִינַּהּ? מָר זוּטְרָא אָמַר: לְפִיסּוּק טְעָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What is the practical difference** between the two readings? **Mar Zutra said:** The practical difference is with regard **to the punctuation of** the cantillation **notes,** whether there should be a break in the verse after: “And they sacrificed burnt-offerings,” indicating that these offerings consisted of sheep; or whether it should read: “And they sacrificed burnt-offerings and sacrificed peace-offerings of bulls,” as one clause.


###### Chagigah 6b:14
[Chagigah 6b:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:14)

רַב אַחָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרָבָא אָמַר: לָאוֹמֵר ״הֲרֵי עָלַי עוֹלָה כָּעוֹלָה שֶׁהִקְרִיבוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּמִּדְבָּר״, מַאי? פָּרִים הֲווֹ, אוֹ כְּבָשִׂים הֲווֹ?! תֵּיקוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Aḥa, son of Rava, said** that the difference between these two readings of the verse is **for one who says** in the form of a vow: It is incumbent **upon me** to bring **a burnt**-offering **like the burnt**-offering **that the Jewish people sacrificed in the desert** at Mount Sinai. **What** is he required to bring? **Were they bulls** or **were they sheep?** The Gemara does not provide an answer and states that the question **shall stand** unresolved.


###### Chagigah 6b:15
[Chagigah 6b:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chagigah/r/6b:15)

תְּנַן הָתָם, אֵלּוּ דְּבָרִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם שִׁיעוּר:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**We learned** in a mishna **there** (*Pe’a* 1:1): **These are** the mitzvot **that have no measure:**