## Chullin Daf 102a

###### Chullin 102a:1
[Chullin 102a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:1)

לֹא תֹאכַל הַנֶּפֶשׁ עִם הַבָּשָׂר״. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה וְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר סָבְרִי: כֹּל שֶׁאַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל דָּמוֹ אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו, וְהָנֵי טְמֵאִין נָמֵי, הוֹאִיל וְאַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל דָּמָן אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
and **you shall not eat the life with the flesh”** (Deuteronomy 12:23). **Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Elazar hold** that with regard to **any** animal **whose blood you are commanded** not to eat, **you are commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., you are prohibited from eating its limbs that were severed while it was still alive. Consequently, with regard to **these non-kosher** species **also, since you are commanded** not to eat **their blood, you are commanded with regard to their limbs.**


###### Chullin 102a:2
[Chullin 102a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:2)

וְרַבָּנַן סָבְרִי: ״לֹא תֹאכַל הַנֶּפֶשׁ עִם הַבָּשָׂר״, אֶלָּא בָּשָׂר לְחוֹדֵיהּ, כֹּל שֶׁבְּשָׂרוֹ מוּתָּר – אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו, וְכֹל שֶׁאֵין בְּשָׂרוֹ מוּתָּר – אִי אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And the Rabbis hold** that the verse indicates: **“And you shall not eat the life with the flesh”** (Deuteronomy 12:23), but **rather** you shall eat **the flesh alone,** i.e., when the animal is no longer alive. Consequently, with regard to **any** animal **whose flesh is permitted** when it is slaughtered, **you are commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., you are prohibited from eating its limbs that were severed while it was still alive. **But** with regard to **any** animal **whose flesh is not permitted** when it is slaughtered, **you are not commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., the prohibition of eating limbs that were severed while it was still alive does not apply.


###### Chullin 102a:3
[Chullin 102a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:3)

וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה, לְמָה לֵיהּ קְרָא? לֵיתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר לֵיחוּל עַל אִיסּוּר טוּמְאָה, שֶׁכֵּן אִיסּוּרוֹ נוֹהֵג בִּבְנֵי נֹחַ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But** according to **Rabbi Yehuda,** who holds that a prohibition takes effect upon an already existing, less stringent prohibition, **why does he** need to derive this from **a verse? Let the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal **come and take effect on the prohibition** of eating meat from **a non-kosher** animal, as it is more stringent **since its prohibition applies** also **to descendants of Noah,** i.e., gentiles.


###### Chullin 102a:4
[Chullin 102a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:4)

אִין הָכִי נָמֵי, וְכִי אִיצְטְרִיךְ קְרָא לְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **Yes,** that **is indeed so.** Rabbi Yehuda does not need to derive this *halakha* from a verse, **and the verse was necessary** only **according to** the opinion of **Rabbi Elazar,** who holds that a prohibition does not take effect where there is an already existing prohibition, even if the second prohibition is more stringent.


###### Chullin 102a:5
[Chullin 102a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:5)

תַּנְיָא נָמֵי הָכִי: אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי נוֹהֵג בִּבְהֵמָה חַיָּה וָעוֹף, בֵּין טְמֵאָה בֵּין טְהוֹרָה, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר ״רַק חֲזַק לְבִלְתִּי אֲכֹל הַדָּם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**This** fact that it is Rabbi Elazar who derives this *halakha* from the verse, as opposed to Rabbi Yehuda, **is also taught** in a *baraita*: The prohibition of eating **a limb from a living** animal **applies with regard to** a limb from **a domesticated animal, an undomesticated animal, or a bird,** and **whether** it is from **a non-kosher** species **or a kosher** species, **as it is stated: “Only be steadfast in not eating the blood,** for the blood is the life; and you shall not eat the life with the flesh” (Deuteronomy 12:23).


###### Chullin 102a:6
[Chullin 102a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:6)

כֹּל שֶׁאַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל דָּמוֹ – אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו, וְכֹל שֶׁאִי אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל דָּמוֹ – אִי אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
This verse indicates that with regard to **any** species **whose blood you are commanded** not to eat, **you are commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., you are prohibited from eating its limbs that were severed while it was still alive. **And any** species **about whose blood you are not commanded,** i.e., with regard to which the prohibition of eating blood does not apply, **you are not commanded with regard to their limbs.** Since the prohibition of eating blood applies even with regard to non-kosher species, the prohibition of eating limbs severed from a living animal also applies; this is **the statement of Rabbi Elazar.**


###### Chullin 102a:7
[Chullin 102a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:7)

וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵינוֹ נוֹהֵג אֶלָּא בִּטְהוֹרִין, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר ״לֹא תֹאכַל הַנֶּפֶשׁ עִם הַבָּשָׂר״, אֶלָּא בָּשָׂר לְחוֹדֵיהּ, כֹּל שֶׁבְּשָׂרוֹ מוּתָּר – אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו, וְכֹל שֶׁאֵין בְּשָׂרוֹ מוּתָּר – אֵין אַתָּה מְצוֶּּוה עַל אֵבָרָיו.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And the Rabbis say:** The prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal **applies only to kosher** species, **as it is stated** in the verse: **“And you shall not eat the life with the flesh”** (Deuteronomy 12:23), but **rather** you shall eat **the flesh alone,** i.e., when the animal is no longer alive. Consequently, with regard to **any** animal **whose flesh is permitted** when it is slaughtered, **you are commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., you are prohibited from eating its limbs that were severed while it was still alive. **But** with regard to **any** animal **whose flesh is not permitted** when it is slaughtered, **you are not commanded with regard to its limbs,** i.e., the prohibition of eating limbs that were severed while it was still alive does not apply.


###### Chullin 102a:8
[Chullin 102a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:8)

רַבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר: אֵינוֹ נוֹהֵג אֶלָּא בִּבְהֵמָה טְהוֹרָה בִּלְבַד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Meir says** that the prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal **applies only with regard to a kosher** species **of domesticated animal,** but not with regard to undomesticated animals or fowl, even if they are kosher.


###### Chullin 102a:9
[Chullin 102a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:9)

(סִימָן: שְׁמוּאֵל, שֵׁילָא, שִׁימִי).

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara provides **a mnemonic** for the different opinions with regard to the name of one of the Sages cited in the upcoming discussion: **Shmuel, Sheila, Shimi.**


###### Chullin 102a:10
[Chullin 102a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:10)

אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר שְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב יוֹסֵף, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר שֵׁילָא אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב יוֹסֵף, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַבָּה בַּר שִׁימִי אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב יוֹסֵף: מַאי טַעְמָא דְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabba bar Shmuel said** that **Rav Ḥisda said, and some say** that it was **Rav Yosef** who said the following statement. **And some say** the attributions as follows: **Rabba bar Sheila said** that **Rav Ḥisda said, and some say** that it was **Rav Yosef** who said; **and some say** the attributions as follows: **Rabba bar Shimi said** that **Rav Ḥisda said, and some say** that it was **Rav Yosef** who said: **What is the reason** for the opinion **of Rabbi Meir** that the prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal applies only with regard to a kosher species of domesticated animal?


###### Chullin 102a:11
[Chullin 102a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:11)

אָמַר קְרָא ״וְזָבַחְתָּ מִבְּקָרְךָ וּמִצֹּאנְךָ״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
It is that the **verse states:** “Then **you shall slaughter of your cattle and of your sheep”** (Deuteronomy 12:21). This verse is closely followed by the verse that serves as the source of the prohibition to eat a limb severed from a living animal (Deuteronomy 12:23), indicating that the prohibition applies only to kosher domesticated animals.


###### Chullin 102a:12
[Chullin 102a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:12)

אָמַר רַב גִּידֵּל, אָמַר רַב: מַחְלוֹקֶת בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל, אֲבָל בְּבֶן נֹחַ – דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל מוּזְהָר עַל הַטְּמֵאִין כַּטְּהוֹרִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Giddel says** that **Rav says:** The **dispute** between the Rabbis and Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Eliezer about whether the prohibition of eating a limb severed from a living animal applies with regard to non-kosher species is only **with regard to Jews. But with regard to descendants of Noah,** i.e., gentiles, **everyone agrees** that they are **prohibited from** eating a limb from a living **non-kosher** species of animal just **like** they are prohibited from eating a limb from a living **kosher** species.


###### Chullin 102a:13
[Chullin 102a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:13)

תַּנְיָא נָמֵי הָכִי: אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי – בֶּן נֹחַ מוּזְהָר עָלָיו עַל הַטְּמֵאִים כַּטְּהוֹרִים, וְיִשְׂרָאֵל אֵינוֹ מוּזְהָר אֶלָּא עַל הַטְּהוֹרִין בִּלְבַד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments that **this is also taught** in a *baraita*: **A descendant of Noah is prohibited** from eating **a limb from a living** animal from **non-kosher** species just **as** from **kosher** species. **But a Jew is prohibited** from eating a limb from a living animal of **kosher** species **only.**


###### Chullin 102a:14
[Chullin 102a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:14)

אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי ״טְהוֹרָה״, וְרַבִּי מֵאִיר. אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי ״טְהוֹרִים״, וְרַבָּנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**There are** those **who say** that the correct wording of the *baraita* is that a Jew is prohibited from eating a limb from a living **kosher** species, in singular, **and** it is in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Meir,** who holds that the prohibition is limited to kosher domestic animals. And **there are** those **who say** that the correct wording of the *baraita* is that a Jew is prohibited from eating a limb from living **kosher** species, in plural, **and** it is in accordance with the opinion of **the Rabbis,** who hold that the prohibition also applies to a limb from a living bird or a living undomesticated animal of kosher species.


###### Chullin 102a:15
[Chullin 102a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:15)

אָמַר רַב שֵׁיזְבִי: אַף אֲנַן נָמֵי תְּנֵינָא, אָכַל אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי מִמֶּנָּה אֵינוֹ סוֹפֵג אַרְבָּעִים, וְאֵין שְׁחִיטָה מְטַהַרְתָּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Sheizvi said: We learn** in the mishna **as well** that a gentile is prohibited from eating a limb from a living being even with regard to non-kosher species (*Teharot* 1:3): If one **ate a limb** severed **from a living** non-kosher bird, **he does not incur forty** lashes, **and slaughter does not purify it,** i.e., cause it to become permitted for consumption.


###### Chullin 102a:16
[Chullin 102a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:16)

בְּמַאי? אִילֵימָא בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל – פְּשִׁיטָא דְּאֵין שְׁחִיטָה מְטַהַרְתָּהּ! אֶלָּא לָאו בִּבְנֵי נֹחַ, מִכְּלָל דְּאָסוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Sheizvi clarifies: **With regard to what** case does the mishna issue this ruling? **If we say** that it is referring **to a Jew** who ate the limb, it is **obvious that slaughter does not purify it,** because it is a non-kosher species and cannot be made kosher. **Rather** is it **not** referring **to descendants of Noah** and teaching that even after the bird is slaughtered the limb severed while it was alive remains forbidden? **By inference,** it is clear from the mishna **that it is prohibited** for a gentile to eat a limb severed from a living being even from a non-kosher species.


###### Chullin 102a:17
[Chullin 102a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:17)

רַבִּי מָנִי בַּר פַּטִּישׁ רָמֵי רֵישָׁא אַסֵּיפָא, וּמְשַׁנֵּי: רֵישָׁא בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל, וְסֵיפָא בְּבֶן נֹחַ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Mani bar Pattish raises a contradiction** between **the first clause** of that mishna, which states that one does not receive lashes for eating a limb severed from a living non-kosher bird, **and the latter clause** of the mishna, which states that a limb severed from a living non-kosher bird remains forbidden after the bird is slaughtered. The first clause indicates that the prohibition of eating a limb severed from a living creature applies only to kosher species, while the latter clause indicates that it applies also to non-kosher species. **And he answers** this contradiction by explaining that **the first clause** is referring **to a Jew and the latter clause** is referring **to a descendant of Noah.**


###### Chullin 102a:18
[Chullin 102a:18](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:18)

אָמַר רַב: אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי צָרִיךְ כְּזַיִת, מַאי טַעְמָא? אֲכִילָה כְּתִיבָה בֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The Gemara continues discussing the prohibition of eating a limb severed from a living creature. **Rav says: A limb** severed **from a living** animal **requires an olive-bulk** in order to render one who eats it liable to receive lashes. **What is the reason** for this? It is because the term: **Eating, is written with regard to** the prohibition of a limb severed from a living animal, and the definition of eating is the consumption of at least one olive-bulk.


###### Chullin 102a:19
[Chullin 102a:19](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:19)

מֵתִיב רַב עַמְרָם: אָכַל אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי מִמֶּנָּה – אֵינוֹ סוֹפֵג אֶת הָאַרְבָּעִים, וְאֵין שְׁחִיטָה מְטַהַרְתָּהּ. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ בָּעֵינַן כְּזַיִת – תִּיפּוֹק לֵיהּ דְּקָאָכֵל כְּזַיִת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Amram raises an objection** from the mishna cited above (*Teharot* 1:3): If one **ate a limb** severed **from a living** non-kosher bird, **he does not incur the forty** lashes, **and slaughter does not purify it,** i.e., cause it to become permitted. **But if it enters your mind** that **we require an olive-bulk** in order for one to receive lashes for eating a limb severed from a living creature, that mishna must be referring to such a case; therefore, it should **emerge** that he is liable to receive lashes **because he ate an olive-bulk** of a non-kosher bird.


###### Chullin 102a:20
[Chullin 102a:20](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:20)

כִּדְאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן, בְּמַשֶּׁהוּ בָּשָׂר גִּידִין וַעֲצָמוֹת, הָכָא נָמֵי בְּמַשֶּׁהוּ בָּשָׂר גִּידִין וַעֲצָמוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: This can be explained **as Rav Naḥman said** with regard to another issue, that it is referring to a case **of** eating **a small amount of meat** together with **sinews and bones** and the total volume is an olive-bulk. **Here also,** the mishna is referring to a case **of** eating **a small amount of meat** together with **sinews and bones.**


###### Chullin 102a:21
[Chullin 102a:21](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/102a:21)

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רַב:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara raises another challenge to Rav’s statement that one receives lashes for eating a limb severed from a living animal only if he eats an olive-bulk: **Come** and **hear** a proof in this regard, **as Rav said:**