## Chullin Daf 103a

###### Chullin 103a:1
[Chullin 103a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:1)

אָכַל אֵבֶר מִן הַחַי מִן הַטְּרֵפָה, רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: חַיָּיב שְׁתַּיִם, וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר: אֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא אַחַת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to one who **ate a limb from a living** animal that is **a *tereifa*, Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** He is **liable** to receive **two** sets of lashes, **and Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish says: He is liable** to receive **only one** set of lashes.


###### Chullin 103a:2
[Chullin 103a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:2)

בִּשְׁלָמָא לְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן נִיחָא, אֶלָּא לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ קַשְׁיָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **Granted, according to** the opinion of **Rabbi Yoḥanan,** this **works out well** because the prohibitions of eating a limb from a living animal and of eating flesh severed from a *tereifa* are derived from two different verses. **But according to** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish,** it is **difficult;** why does he hold that the individual receives only one set of lashes?


###### Chullin 103a:3
[Chullin 103a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:3)

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: לָא קַשְׁיָא, כָּאן בִּבְהֵמָה אַחַת, כָּאן בִּשְׁתֵּי בְּהֵמוֹת. בִּשְׁתֵּי בְּהֵמוֹת מִיחַיַּיב שְׁתַּיִם, בִּבְהֵמָה אַחַת פְּלִיגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said:** This is **not difficult. Here** it is referring **to one animal,** but **there** it is referring **to two animals.** Rav Yosef clarifies: **In** a case of **two animals,** e.g., where one ate a limb from a living animal and flesh severed from a different animal that was a *tereifa*, everyone agrees that **he is liable** to receive **two** sets of lashes. But **in** a case where he ate from **one animal,** e.g., he ate a limb severed from a live *tereifa* animal, Rabbi Yoḥanan and Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish **disagree.**


###### Chullin 103a:4
[Chullin 103a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:4)

בִּבְהֵמָה אַחַת, בְּמַאי פְּלִיגִי? אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: כְּגוֹן שֶׁנִּטְרְפָה עִם יְצִיאַת רוּבָּהּ, מָר סָבַר: בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וְאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה וְאִיסּוּר אֵבֶר בַּהֲדֵי הֲדָדֵי קָאָתוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **With regard to** the case of **one animal, in what** case **do they disagree? Abaye said:** They disagree, **for example,** in a case where the animal **became a *tereifa* as the majority of it emerged** from its mother’s womb. One **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that **an animal,** even **during its life, stands to** be divided into **limbs,** and therefore each of its limbs is considered a separate entity; **and** here **the prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa* and the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal **come** into effect **at the same time.** Consequently, both prohibitions apply.


###### Chullin 103a:5
[Chullin 103a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:5)

וּמָר סָבַר, בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לָאו לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וְלָא אָתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר חָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish, **holds** that **during its life an animal does not stand** to be divided into **limbs.** Consequently, although the prohibition of eating a *tereifa* comes into effect when it is born, the prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal does not take effect until the limb is actually severed from the animal, **and** at that point **the prohibition of a limb** from a living animal **does not come and take effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of a *tereifa*.**


###### Chullin 103a:6
[Chullin 103a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:6)

וְאִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לָאו לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וּבְמֵיתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר מֵיחַל אַאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה קָא מִיפַּלְגִי: מָר סָבַר אָתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר חָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה, וּמָר סָבַר לָא אָתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר חָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you wish, say** instead **that everyone agrees** that **during its life an animal does not stand** to be divided into **limbs, and they disagree with regard to** whether **the prohibition of a limb** from a living animal **comes and takes effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of a *tereifa*.** One **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that **the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal, which applies to gentiles as well as to Jews, **comes and takes effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa*. And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish, **holds** that **the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal **does not come and take effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa*.**


###### Chullin 103a:7
[Chullin 103a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:7)

אִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וּכְגוֹן שֶׁנִּטְרְפָה לְאַחַר מִכָּאן, וּבְמֵיתֵי אִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה חָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר אֵבֶר קָא מִיפַּלְגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And **if you wish, say** instead **that everyone agrees** that **an animal,** even **during its life, stands to** be divided into **limbs, and** the dispute is about a case **where** the animal **became a *tereifa* afterward,** i.e., after it was born, **and they disagree** with regard to whether **the prohibition of a *tereifa* comes and takes effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of a limb** from a living animal.


###### Chullin 103a:8
[Chullin 103a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:8)

מָר סָבַר אָתֵי וְחָיֵיל, וּמַר סָבַר לָא אָתֵי וְחָיֵיל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
One **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that the prohibition of eating a *tereifa* **comes and takes effect** in addition to the already existing prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal. **And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish, **holds** that the prohibition of eating a *tereifa* **does not come and take effect** in addition to the already existing prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal.


###### Chullin 103a:9
[Chullin 103a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:9)

רָבָא אָמַר: כְּגוֹן שֶׁתָּלַשׁ מִמֶּנָּה אֵבֶר וּטְרָפָהּ בּוֹ. מָר סָבַר: בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים אֵינָהּ עוֹמֶדֶת, אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר וְאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה בַּהֲדֵי הֲדָדֵי קָאָתוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava says** an alternative explanation: This is referring to a case **where he severed a limb from** the animal **and** thereby **rendered** the animal **a *tereifa*.** One **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that **during its life, an animal does not stand to** be divided into **limbs.** Consequently, **the prohibition of a limb** from a living animal **and the prohibition of a *tereifa* come** into effect **at the same time.**


###### Chullin 103a:10
[Chullin 103a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:10)

וּמָר סָבַר, בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וְלָא אָתֵי אִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה חָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר אֵבֶר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish, **holds** that even **during its life, an animal stands to** be divided into **limbs,** and therefore the prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal takes effect when the animal is born. Consequently, **the prohibition of a *tereifa* does not come and take effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of a limb** from a living animal.


###### Chullin 103a:11
[Chullin 103a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:11)

אָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא, אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אָכַל חֵלֶב מִן הַחַי מִן הַטְּרֵפָה – חַיָּיב שְׁתַּיִם. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַבִּי אַמֵּי: וְלֵימָא מָר שָׁלֹשׁ, שֶׁאֲנִי אוֹמֵר שָׁלֹשׁ. אִיתְּמַר נָמֵי, אָמַר רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ, אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אָכַל חֵלֶב מִן הַחַי מִן הַטְּרֵפָה – חַיָּיב שָׁלֹשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** If one **ate** forbidden **fat from a living** animal that is **a *tereifa*** he is **liable** to receive **two** sets of lashes. **Rabbi Ami said to him: But let the Master say** that he is liable to **three** sets of lashes, **because I say** that the correct version of Rabbi Yoḥanan’s statement is that he is liable to **three** sets of lashes. It **was also stated: Rabbi Abbahu says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** If one **ate** forbidden **fat from a living** animal that is **a *tereifa*** he is **liable** to **three** sets of lashes.


###### Chullin 103a:12
[Chullin 103a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:12)

בְּמַאי קָמִיפַּלְגִי, כְּגוֹן שֶׁנִּטְרְפָה עִם יְצִיאַת רוּבָּהּ. מַאן דְּאָמַר שָׁלֹשׁ, קָסָבַר: בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, דְּאִיסּוּר חֵלֶב וְאִיסּוּר אֵבֶר וְאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה בַּהֲדֵי הֲדָדֵי קָאָתוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **With regard to what** principle **do** Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba and Rabbi Ami **disagree?** They disagree in a case **where** the animal **became a *tereifa* as the majority of it emerged** from its mother’s womb; **the one who said** that he is liable to **three** sets of lashes **holds** that even **during its life an animal stands to** be divided into **limbs,** and each of its limbs is considered as a separate entity, **so that the prohibition of** eating forbidden **fat, the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal, **and the prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa* come** into effect **at the same time.**


###### Chullin 103a:13
[Chullin 103a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:13)

וּמַאן דְּאָמַר שְׁתַּיִם, קָסָבַר בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לָאו לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וְאִיסּוּר חֵלֶב וְאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה – אִיכָּא, אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר – לָא אָתֵי חָיֵיל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And the one who said** that he is liable to **two** sets of lashes **holds** that **during its life, an animal does not stand to** be divided into **limbs,** i.e., its limbs are not considered separate entities while the animal is alive. Consequently, **the prohibition of** eating forbidden **fat and the prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa*** animal **apply,** as they came into effect at the same time, when the animal was born. By contrast, **the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal **does not come and take effect,** due to the fact that other prohibitions already apply.


###### Chullin 103a:14
[Chullin 103a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:14)

וְאִי בָּעֵית אֵימָא, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לָאו לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וּבְמֵיתֵי אִיסּוּר אֵבֶר וְחָיֵיל אַאִיסּוּר חֵלֶב וְאַאִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה קָא מִיפַּלְגִי, מָר סָבַר אָתֵי חָיֵיל, וּמַר סָבַר לָא אָתֵי חָיֵיל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you wish, say** instead **that everyone agrees** that **during its life an animal does not stand to** be divided into **limbs,** and each of its limbs is not considered as a separate entity. **But they disagree with regard to** whether **the prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal **comes and takes effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of eating** forbidden **fat and the** already existing **prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa*.** One **Sage,** Rabbi Ami, **holds** that it does **come and take effect, and** one **Sage,** Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba, **holds** that **it does not come and take effect.**


###### Chullin 103a:15
[Chullin 103a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:15)

וְאִי בָּעֵית אֵימָא, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא בְּהֵמָה בְּחַיֶּיהָ לְאֵבָרִים עוֹמֶדֶת, וּכְגוֹן שֶׁנִּטְרְפָה לְאַחַר מִכָּאן, וּבְמֵיתֵי אִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה מֵיחַל אַאִיסּוּר אֵבֶר קָא מִיפַּלְגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you wish, say** instead **that everyone agrees** that **during its life an animal stands to** be divided into **limbs, and** it is a case **where** the animal **became a *tereifa* afterward,** i.e., after it was born; **and they disagree with regard to** whether **the prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa* comes and takes effect upon the** already existing **prohibition of** eating **a limb** from a living animal.


###### Chullin 103a:16
[Chullin 103a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:16)

מָר סָבַר: אָתֵי חָיֵיל, מִידֵּי דְּהָוֵה אַחֵלֶב, דְּאָמַר מָר: הַתּוֹרָה אָמְרָה יָבֹא אִיסּוּר נְבֵלָה יָחוּל עַל אִיסּוּר חֵלֶב, וְיָבֹא אִיסּוּר טְרֵפָה יָחוּל עַל אִיסּוּר חֵלֶב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
One **Sage,** Rabbi Ami, **holds** that it does **come and take effect, just as is** the *halakha* **with** forbidden **fat. As the Master said** that in the verse: “And the fat of a carcass, and the fat of a *tereifa* may be used for any other service; but you shall in no way eat of it” (Leviticus 7:24), **the Torah said: Let the prohibition of** eating **a carcass come and take effect upon the prohibition of** eating forbidden **fat,** despite the fact that the prohibition of forbidden fat came into effect first. **And** similarly, the word “*tereifa*” teaches: **Let the prohibition of** eating **a *tereifa* come and take effect upon the prohibition of** eating forbidden **fat.** Consequently, one who eats forbidden fat from a *tereifa* is liable to receive two sets of lashes. Rabbi Ami holds that just as the prohibition of eating a *tereifa* takes effect in addition to the prohibition of eating forbidden fat, it also takes effect in addition to the prohibition of eating a limb from a living animal.


###### Chullin 103a:17
[Chullin 103a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/103a:17)

וְאִידַּךְ, אַחֵלֶב הוּא דְּחַיָּיב, דְּהוּתַּר

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And the other** Sage, Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba, holds **that it is** only the prohibition of eating forbidden **fat for which he is liable** in addition to being liable for the prohibition of eating a *tereifa*. The prohibition of eating a *tereifa* takes effect in addition to the prohibition of eating forbidden fat **because** with regard to the latter, there are **permitted** circumstances that serve as exceptions