## Chullin Daf 42b

###### Chullin 42b:1
[Chullin 42b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:1)

בִּשְׁלָמָא לְתַנָּא דִּידַן, דִּתְנָא, תְּנָא וּדְשַׁיַּיר – אָתְיָא בְּזֶה הַכְּלָל, אֶלָּא לְתַנָּא דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל דְּאָמַר: שְׁמוֹנֶה עֶשְׂרֵה טְרֵפוֹת וְתוּ לֵיכָּא, וְהָא אִיכָּא בְּהֵמָה שֶׁנֶּחְתְּכוּ רַגְלֶיהָ מִן הָאַרְכּוּבָּה וּלְמַעְלָה טְרֵפָה? סָבַר לֵיהּ כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר, דְּאָמַר: יְכוֹלָה הִיא לִיכּוֹוֹת וְלִחְיוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Granted, with regard to the *tanna* of our** mishna, one can say **that** the cases of *tereifot* that **he taught** explicitly in the mishna, **he taught, and** that any case **that** he **omitted comes** under the general statement beginning: **This is the principle. But with regard to the *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael,** who **said: Eighteen *tereifot*,** one must ask: **And are there no more** cases of *tereifot*? **But aren’t there** the four cases represented by the mnemonic *beit*, *samekh*, *gimmel*, *reish*, the first of which is taught in a mishna (76a): **An animal whose hind legs were severed from the leg joint and above** is **a *tereifa*?** The Gemara responds: The *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael **holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar, who says:** The severed leg **can be cauterized and** the animal will **live.** Therefore, such a wound does not render the animal a *tereifa*.


###### Chullin 42b:2
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אַף עַל גַּב דִּיכוֹלָה לִיכּוֹוֹת וְלִחְיוֹת, לְמַאן קָאָמַר? לְתַנָּא דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, תַּנָּא דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל טְרֵפָה חַיָּה סְבִירָא לֵיהּ! אֶלָּא סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר, דְּאָמַר: ״כְּשֵׁרָה הִיא״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara objects: But **even** if one holds **that** the severed leg **can be cauterized and** the animal will **live,** this does not mean that the animal is not a *tereifa*. **According to whom is** the question: But aren’t there the cases of *beit*, *samekh*, *gimmel*, *reish*, **stated?** It is stated **according to** the ***tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael,** who holds that there are only eighteen *tereifot*. But **the *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael maintains** that **a *tereifa* can live.** If so, the fact that the animal can live if the stump of its severed limb is cauterized is immaterial to whether it is a *tereifa*. **Rather,** say that the *tanna* **holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar** insofar **as he says** that an animal with a severed leg **is kosher.** Yet, he disagrees with the claim that the reason is because the animal can survive.


###### Chullin 42b:3
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וְהָאִיכָּא חִסָּרוֹן בַּשִּׁדְרָה, דִּתְנַן: כַּמָּה חִסָּרוֹן בַּשִּׁדְרָה? בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: שְׁתֵּי חוּלְיוֹת, וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: חוּלְיָא אַחַת; וְאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: וְכֵן לִטְרֵפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara objects: **But isn’t there** the case of **a deficiency in the spine? As we learned** in a mishna (*Oholot* 2:3): **How much** is considered **a deficiency in the spine** of a corpse so that it will not be considered a full corpse to impart impurity in a tent? **Beit Shammai say: Two** missing **vertebrae, and Beit Hillel say: One vertebra. And Rav Yehuda says** that **Shmuel says:** Just as Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel disagree with regard to ritual impurity, **so too** they disagree **with regard to a *tereifa*,** i.e., according to Beit Hillel an animal missing only one vertebra is a *tereifa*. This is not included in the count of Rabbi Yishmael.


###### Chullin 42b:4
[Chullin 42b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:4)

הֶמְסֵס וּבֵית הַכּוֹסוֹת, דְּקָא חָשְׁבַתְּ לְהוּ בְּתַרְתֵּי, חַשְׁבִינְהוּ בַּחֲדָא, אַפֵּיק חֲדָא וְעַיֵּיל חֲדָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: The **omasum or the reticulum** that were perforated on their outer walls, **which you count as two** separate cases, **should be counted as one** case. Accordingly, **one** case has been **removed** from the count of eighteen *tereifot* **and one** case has been **inserted,** i.e., the case of a deficiency in the spine, and there are still only eighteen cases.


###### Chullin 42b:5
[Chullin 42b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:5)

וְהָאִיכָּא גְּלוּדָה? סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר דְּמַכְשַׁיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But isn’t there** the case of the *tereifa* mentioned in the mishna on 54a of an animal **whose hide was removed?** The Gemara responds: The *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael **holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir, who deems** such an animal **kosher.**


###### Chullin 42b:6
[Chullin 42b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:6)

וְהָא אִיכָּא חֲרוּתָא? מָרָה – מַאן קָתָנֵי לַהּ? רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה. אַפֵּיק מָרָה, וְעַיֵּיל חֲרוּתָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But isn’t there** also the case of an animal that is a *tereifa* because of **a shriveled** lung? The Gemara responds: The mishna states that a perforated **gallbladder** renders the animal a *tereifa*; but **who teaches this? Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda,** teaches this. Therefore, the *tanna* **removed** the **gallbladder** from the list, since it is only the opinion of an individual, **and inserted a shriveled** lung.


###### Chullin 42b:7
[Chullin 42b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:7)

וְהָאִיכָּא שַׁב שְׁמַעְתָּתָא, דְּאָמַר רַב מַתְנָא: הַאי בּוּקָא דְּאַטְמָא דְּשַׁף מִדּוּכְתֵּיהּ – טְרֵפָה, וְאָמַר רָכִישׁ בַּר פָּפָּא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב: לָקְתָה בְּכוּלְיָא אַחַת – טְרֵפָה, וּתְנַן: נִיטַּל הַטְּחוֹל – כְּשֵׁרָה, וְאָמַר רַב עַוִּירָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא נִיטַּל, אֲבָל נִיקַּב – טְרֵפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But aren’t there** the **seven** additional ***halakhot*,** i.e., cases of *tereifot*, taught by *amora’im*? The Gemara enumerates the seven *halakhot*: **As Rav Mattana says: This head of the femur that was** completely **dislocated** renders the animal **a *tereifa*. And Rakhish bar Pappa says in the name of Rav:** If the animal **was diseased** even **in one kidney,** it is **a *tereifa*. And we learned** in a mishna (54a) that if **the spleen was removed** the animal is **kosher, and** with regard to this mishna, **Rav Avira says in the name of Rava: They taught** this **only** when the spleen was **removed; but** if it was **perforated,** the animal is **a *tereifa*.**


###### Chullin 42b:8
[Chullin 42b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:8)

וְאָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: סִימָנִים שֶׁנִּדַּלְדְּלוּ בְּרוּבָּן – טְרֵפָה. וְאָמַר רַבָּה בַּר רַב שֵׁילָא אָמַר רַב מַתְנָא אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: נֶעֶקְרָה צֵלָע מֵעִיקָּרָהּ – טְרֵפָה, וְגוּלְגּוֹלֶת שֶׁנֶּחְבְּסָה בְּרוּבָּה, וּבָשָׂר הַחוֹפֶה אֶת רוֹב הַכָּרֵס בְּרוּבּוֹ – טְרֵפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara continues: **And Rabba bar bar Ḥana says** that **Shmuel says:** If the **two organs that must be severed in ritual slaughter [*simanim*],** i.e., the windpipe and the gullet, **were mostly detached,** the animal is **a *tereifa*. And Rabba bar Rav Sheila says** that **Rav Mattana says** that **Shmuel says:** If **a rib was torn out from its root,** along with half of the attached vertebra, the animal is **a *tereifa*; and a skull that was mostly crushed,** even if the membranes are intact, renders the animal a *tereifa*; **and** if **a majority of** the **flesh that envelops the majority of the rumen** was torn, the animal is **a *tereifa***.


###### Chullin 42b:9
[Chullin 42b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:9)

נְקוּבֵי תְּמָנְיָא הָווּ, חַשְׁבִינְהוּ בְּחַד, אַפֵּיק שַׁב, וְעַיֵּיל שַׁב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **There are eight** cases of **perforated** organs mentioned in the mishna that render an animal a *tereifa*. The *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael **counts them** all **as one** case. Accordingly, **he removed seven** cases from the count of eighteen **and inserted** these **seven** *halakhot*.


###### Chullin 42b:10
[Chullin 42b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/42b:10)

אִי הָכִי, פְּסוּקֵי נָמֵי תְּרֵי הָווּ, חַשְּׁבִינְהוּ בְּחַד, בָּצַר לְהוּ חֲדָא, וְעוֹד, דְּרַב עַוִּירָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרָבָא נָמֵי נְקוּבָה הִיא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges: **If so,** since **there are also two** cases of **cut** organs in the mishna, the spinal cord and the windpipe, let the *tanna* **count them as one.** The count of *tereifot* then falls **one short** of eighteen. **And furthermore,** if all the cases of perforated organs are counted as one, then one cannot insert the case taught by **Rav Avira in the name of Rava,** i.e., that of a perforated spleen, since it **is also** a case of **a perforated** organ. If so, the count falls two short of eighteen.