## Chullin Daf 50b

###### Chullin 50b:1
[Chullin 50b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/50b:1)

בּוּקֵי סְרִיקִי? הָכִי אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: מְקוֹם הַדֶּבֶק, אֲפִילּוּ נִיטַּל כּוּלּוֹ – כָּשֵׁר, וְהוּא שֶׁנִּשְׁתַּיֵּיר בּוֹ כְּדֵי תְּפִיסָה. וְכַמָּה? אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: כִּמְלֵא בַּטְדָּא בְּתוֹרָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**empty bottles,** i.e., not to falsely attribute statements to him? **So said Rav Naḥman:** With regard to **the place that** the rectum **is attached** to the hips, **even** if **all of it was removed,** the animal is **kosher. And this** is the *halakha* only **where sufficient** space **remains of it** for a hand to **grip.** The Gemara asks: **And how much** is considered sufficient to grip? **Abaye said: The width of a finger.** This measure is sufficient even **in** the case of a large **bull.**


###### Chullin 50b:2
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הַכָּרֵס הַפְּנִימִי. אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: הֵעִיד נָתָן בַּר שֵׁילָא רֵישׁ טַבָּחַיָּא דְּצִפּוֹרִי לִפְנֵי רַבִּי מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי נָתָן: אֵי זוֹ הִיא כָּרֵס הַפְּנִימִי? סַנְיָא דֵּיבֵי. וְכֵן אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן קׇרְחָה: סַנְיָא דֵּיבֵי. רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל אָמַר: אִיסְתּוּמְכָא דְּכַרְסָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna states that if **the internal rumen** was perforated or most of the external rumen was torn, the animal is a *tereifa*. With regard to this, **Rav Yehuda says** that **Rav says: Natan bar Sheila, chief butcher of Tzippori, testified before Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **in the name of Rabbi Natan: Which is the internal rumen?** It is **the cecum. And so said Rabbi Yehoshua ben Korḥa:** It is **the cecum. Rabbi Yishmael said:** It is the **opening [*istumka*] of the rumen.**


###### Chullin 50b:3
[Chullin 50b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/50b:3)

רַב אַסִּי אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: מָקוֹם צַר יֵשׁ בַּכָּרֵס, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ אֵיזֶהוּ. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: נְפַל כְּרֵסָא בְּבֵירָא. אָמַר רַב אַחָא בַּר רַב עַוָּא אָמַר רַב אַסִּי: מִן הַמֵּיצַר וּלְמַטָּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Asi says** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan** says: **There is a narrow place in the rumen,** and this is the internal rumen; all the rest is the external rumen. **But I do not know which** area **is** this narrow place. **Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: The rumen has fallen in a pit,** i.e., since it is unknown which area is considered the narrow place, a perforation in any part of the rumen renders the animal a *tereifa*. **Rav Aḥa bar Rav Ava says** that **Rav Asi says:** The inner rumen extends **from the narrow place,** where the rumen begins to narrow as it approaches the gullet, **and downward** toward the gullet when the animal is suspended by its legs.


###### Chullin 50b:4
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רַבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר נַחְמָנִי אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: מְקוֹם שֶׁאֵין בּוֹ מֵילָת. רַבִּי אֲבִינָא אָמַר גְּנִיבָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב: טֶפַח בַּוֶּושֶׁט סָמוּךְ לַכָּרֵס – זוֹ הִיא כָּרֵס הַפְּנִימִית.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Ya’akov bar Naḥmani says** in the name of **Shmuel:** The internal rumen is the **place** in the rumen **that has no wool,** i.e., downy projections on the inside of the rumen. **Rabbi Avina says** in the name of **Geneiva,** who said **in the name of Rav:** The **handbreadth in the gullet adjacent to the rumen, this is the internal rumen.**


###### Chullin 50b:5
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אָמְרִי בְּמַעְרְבָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר חֲנִינָא: כׇּל הַכָּרֵס כּוּלּוֹ – זוֹ הִיא כָּרֵס הַפְּנִימִית, וְאֵיזֶהוּ כָּרֵס הַחִיצוֹן? בָּשָׂר הַחוֹפֶה אֶת רוֹב הַכָּרֵס. רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא אָמַר: מַפְרַעְתָּה. מַאי מַפְרַעְתָּה? אָמַר רַב אַוְיָא: הֵיכָא דְּפָרְעִי טַבָּחֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**In the West,** Eretz Yisrael, **they said in the name of Rabbi Yosei bar Ḥanina: The entire rumen is the internal rumen. And** if so, **which is the external rumen?** It is the **flesh that envelops the majority of the rumen** on the underside of the animal. **Rabba bar Rav Huna says:** The internal rumen is the ***mafrata*.** The Gemara asks: **What is the *mafrata*? Rav Avya said:** It is **the place that the butcher exposes** when he opens up the animal, i.e., the underside of the stomach.


###### Chullin 50b:6
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בִּנְהַרְדְּעָא עָבְדִי כְּרַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב אָשֵׁי לְאַמֵּימָר: כֹּל הָנֵי שְׁמַעְתָּתָא מַאי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: כּוּלְּהוּ שָׁיְיכָן בִּדְרַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara recounts: **In Neharde’a, they practiced in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabba bar Rav Huna. Rav Ashi said to Ameimar,** one of the Sages of Neharde’a: **What** about **all these** other **statements,** that the internal rumen is another part of the rumen? Ameimar **said to him: They are all included in** the definition **of** the rumen according to **Rabba bar Rav Huna.** The cecum, the opening of the stomach, and the place with no wool all face the underside of the stomach, i.e., the *mafrata*.


###### Chullin 50b:7
[Chullin 50b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/50b:7)

וּדְרַב אַסִּי אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, מַאי אֲמַר לֵיהּ? כְּבָר פֵּירְשָׁה רַב אַחָא בַּר עַוָּא. וּדְרַבִּי אֲבִינָא וְדִבְנֵי מַעְרְבָא, מַאי אֲמַר לֵיהּ? הָנֵי וַדַּאי פְּלִיגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Ashi replied: **And what** about the opinion **that Rav Asi says** in the name of **Rabbi Yoḥanan,** that the internal rumen is an unknown narrow area? Shouldn’t the entire rumen be treated as the internal rumen? Ameimar **said to him: Rav Aḥa bar Ava already explained** that **it** is the area extending from the narrow place until the gullet. This area is also included in the *mafrata*. Rav Ashi asked further: **And what** of the opinion **of Rabbi Avina,** that the internal rumen is the handbreadth near the gullet, **and of the residents of the West,** Eretz Yisrael, that it is the entire rumen? Ameimar **said to him: These** opinions **certainly disagree** with that of Rabba bar Rav Huna, but we do not follow them.


###### Chullin 50b:8
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רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: בִּגְדוֹלָה כּוּ׳. אָמַר רַבִּי בִּנְיָמִין בַּר יֶפֶת אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: לֹא ״גְּדוֹלָה״ – גְּדוֹלָה מַמָּשׁ, וְלֹא ״קְטַנָּה״ – קְטַנָּה מַמָּשׁ, אֶלָּא כֹּל שֶׁנִּקְרַע בָּהּ טֶפַח וְלָא הָוֵי רוּבָּא – זוֹ הִיא שֶׁשָּׁנִינוּ: ״בִּגְדוֹלָה טֶפַח״, רוּבָּא וְלָא הָוֵי טֶפַח – זוֹ הִיא שֶׁשָּׁנִינוּ: ״בִּקְטַנָּה בְּרוּבָּא״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna states: **Rabbi Yehuda says:** With regard to a tear in the external rumen, for **a large** animal, a tear of one handbreadth renders it a *tereifa*, while for a small animal, it is a *tereifa* only if most of it was torn. **Rabbi Binyamin bar Yefet says** that **Rabbi Elazar says:** The word: **Large,** is **not** referring **literally** to **a large** animal, and the word: **Small,** is **not** referring **literally** to **a small** animal. **Rather,** concerning **any** animal large enough that **its** external rumen can be **torn one handbreadth and** this **does not constitute most** of it, **this is what we learned:** For **a large** animal, a tear of **one handbreadth** renders it a *tereifa*. And concerning any animal small enough that **most** of its external rumen can be torn **and** this does **not constitute one handbreadth, this is what we learned: For a small** animal, it is a *tereifa* only if **most** of it was torn. In other words, any external rumen torn either one handbreadth or in its majority renders the animal a *tereifa*.


###### Chullin 50b:9
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רוּבָּא וְלָא הָוֵי טֶפַח, פְּשִׁיטָא! לָא צְרִיכָא, דְּהָוְיָא טֶפַח בְּמַשֶּׁהוּ, מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: עַד דְּמִיקְּרַע בַּהּ טֶפַח לָא הָוֵי טְרֵפָה, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: If **most** of the external rumen is torn **but** it does **not constitute a handbreadth,** isn’t it **obvious** that the animal is rendered a *tereifa*? There is a principle that the majority of an entity is considered like all of it. The Gemara responds: **No,** it is **necessary** to teach this for a case **where** the tear would **constitute a handbreadth with any amount** more than a majority, i.e., the external rumen is slightly smaller than two handbreadths. **Lest you say** that in such a case, the animal **is not a *tereifa* until a handbreadth of it is torn,** this *halakha* **teaches us** that this is not so. Rather, if the majority of the rumen is torn, the animal is a *tereifa*, even if this constitutes less than a handbreadth.


###### Chullin 50b:10
[Chullin 50b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/50b:10)

אָמַר גְּנִיבָא אָמַר רַבִּי אַסִּי: נִקְדְּרָה כְּסֶלַע – טְרֵפָה, שֶׁאִם תִּמָּתַח תַּעֲמוֹד עַל הַטֶּפַח. אָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא: לְדִידִי מִפָּרְשָׁא לִי מִינֵּיהּ דִּגְנִיבָא אַמַּבָּרָא דִּנְהַרְדְּעָא – כְּסֶלַע כְּשֵׁרָה, יָתֵר מִכְּסֶלַע טְרֵפָה. וְכַמָּה יָתֵר מִכְּסֶלַע? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: כְּגוֹן דְּעָיְילָן תְּלָת קַשְׁיָיתָא בְּצִיפָּא בְּדוּחְקָא, בְּלָא צִיפָּא בְּרַוְוחָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Geneiva says** that **Rabbi Asi says:** If a round hole was **bored** through the external rumen **as** large as **a *sela*** coin, the animal is **a *tereifa*, since if** a hole of such size **will be stretched, it will reach the** length of a **handbreadth. Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba said:** This matter **was explained to me** personally **by Geneiva** himself, when we were **on the ferry of Neharde’a:** If the hole is exactly as large **as a *sela*,** the animal is **kosher.** If the size of the hole is **greater than a *sela*,** it is **a *tereifa*.** The Gemara asks: **And how much** is considered **greater than a *sela*? Rav Yosef said: For example,** if **three** date **pits covered** in remains of the date can fit through the hole **with difficulty,** or if, **without** being **covered** in any remains, they can fit **comfortably,** this is considered a hole larger than a *sela*.


###### Chullin 50b:11
[Chullin 50b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/50b:11)

הֶמְסֵס וּבֵית הַכּוֹסוֹת, תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: מַחַט שֶׁנִּמְצֵאת בְּעוֹבִי בֵּית הַכּוֹסוֹת מִצַּד אֶחָד – כְּשֵׁרָה, מִשְּׁנֵי צְדָדִים – טְרֵפָה. נִמְצָא עָלֶיהָ קוֹרֶט דָּם –

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna states: An animal is a *tereifa* if the **omasum or the reticulum** was perforated to the outside, i.e., to the abdominal cavity. With regard to this, **the Sages taught:** In the case of **a needle that is found in the thickness of the reticulum,** if it pierced the wall **from** only **one side,** the animal is **kosher.** If it pierced the wall **from both sides,** i.e., the needle completely pierced the wall of the stomach, it is **a *tereifa*.** But even if it protrudes from both sides, it is not always a *tereifa*, and it may be inspected further: If **a drop of** congealed **blood is found on top of** the needle,