## Chullin Daf 51b

###### Chullin 51b:1
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מְטַמֵּא בְּזִיבָה, וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ יֵשׁ בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם רִיסּוּקֵי אֵבָרִים, אִיקְרִי כָּאן ״מִבְּשָׂרוֹ״ וְלֹא מֵחֲמַת אוֹנְסוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**becomes** ritually **impure** if he experiences a gonorrhea-like **discharge [*ziva*]. And if it should enter your mind** that a newborn **is subject to** concern about possible **shattered limbs, read here** the ruling stated with regard to *ziva*, that one’s discharge renders one impure only when it issues **“out of his flesh”** (Leviticus 15:2), **but not** when it issues **due to circumstances beyond his control,** e.g., due to illness. Therefore, if one must be concerned that a newborn’s limbs may have shattered during birth, his discharge would not render him impure.


###### Chullin 51b:2
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הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן, כְּגוֹן שֶׁיָּצָא דֶּרֶךְ דּוֹפֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: One cannot bring a proof from this *baraita*, since **here we are dealing with** a case **where** the infant **left** the womb **by caesarean section** and did not exit through the narrow birth canal. By contrast, after normal births, a newborn’s discharge does not render it impure, since one is concerned about the possibility of shattered limbs.


###### Chullin 51b:3
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תָּא שְׁמַע: עֵגֶל שֶׁנּוֹלַד בְּיוֹם טוֹב – שׁוֹחֲטִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב. הָכָא נָמֵי, כְּגוֹן שֶׁיָּצָא דֶּרֶךְ דּוֹפֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** proof from a *baraita*: If **a calf was born on a Festival, one may slaughter it** and eat it **on** the **Festival.** One need not wait twenty-four hours before deeming the animal kosher, as one does for an animal that fell from a roof. Apparently, one need not be concerned that its limbs were shattered during the birth. The Gemara responds: **Here, too,** the *baraita* is referring to a case **where** the calf **left** the womb **by caesarean section.** But after normal births, one must wait twenty-four hours before slaughtering the calf.


###### Chullin 51b:4
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תָּא שְׁמַע: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד הוּא וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ, שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְכִי תֵּימָא הָכָא נָמֵי שֶׁיָּצָא דֶּרֶךְ דּוֹפֶן – דֶּרֶךְ דּוֹפֶן מִי קָדוֹשׁ? וְהָא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: מוֹדֶה הָיָה רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן לְעִנְיַן קָדָשִׁים שֶׁאֵינוֹ קָדוֹשׁ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** proof from another *baraita*: **And** all **agree that if** a firstborn animal **was born** on a Festival **and its blemish** was born **with it,** i.e., if it was born with a blemish that removes its sanctity and renders it permitted for consumption, **it is** considered to be **prepared** for the Festival and may be eaten. Evidently, one need not wait twenty-four hours before deeming it kosher. **And if you would say** that **here too,** the *baraita* deals with a case **where** the animal **left** the womb **by caesarean section,** one might respond: **Is** a firstborn animal born **by caesarean section sanctified? But doesn’t Rabbi Yoḥanan say: Rabbi Shimon would concede with regard to sacrificial** animals, e.g., a firstborn, **that** an animal born by caesarean section **is not sanctified?** Therefore, the *baraita* must be referring to an animal born naturally.


###### Chullin 51b:5
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הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן, שֶׁהִפְרִיס עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **Here we are dealing with** a firstborn **that spread out** its legs **on the ground** and stood up immediately after birth. In such a case the animal is certainly not a *tereifa* on account of shattered limbs.


###### Chullin 51b:6
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וְאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: בֵּית הַמִּטְבָּחַיִם אֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם רִיסּוּקֵי אֵבָרִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **And Rav Naḥman says:** If an animal was thrown to the ground in **the slaughterhouse** in preparation for slaughter, it **is not subject to** concern for **shattered limbs.**


###### Chullin 51b:7
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הָהוּא תּוֹרָא דִּנְפַל, וְאִישְׁתְּמַע קָל גְּנִיחוֹתֵיהּ, עָל רַב יִצְחָק בַּר שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר מָרְתָא שְׁקַל מִשּׁוּפְרֵי שׁוּפְרֵי. אָמְרִי לֵיהּ רַבָּנַן: מְנָא לָךְ הָא? אֲמַר לְהוּ: הָכִי אָמַר רַב: צִפׇּרְנָיו נוֹעֵץ עַד שֶׁמַּגִּיעַ לָאָרֶץ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: **A certain bull fell** in the slaughterhouse, **and its bellowing was audible** due to the blow. Still, **Rav Yitzḥak bar Shmuel bar Marta entered** and **took from the very best** portions of the bull and was not concerned that it may have been a *tereifa*. **The Sages said to him: From where** did you learn **this?** Rav Yitzḥak bar Shmuel bar Marta **said to them: This is what Rav said:** When falling, the bull **digs in its hooves until it reaches the earth.** Therefore, one need not be concerned that it fell roughly.


###### Chullin 51b:8
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אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: עָמְדָה – אֵינָהּ צְרִיכָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת, בְּדִיקָה – וַדַּאי בָּעֲיָא, הָלְכָה – אֵינָהּ צְרִיכָה בְּדִיקָה. רַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי אָמַר: אַחַת זוֹ וְאַחַת זוֹ צְרִיכָה בְּדִיקָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rav Yehuda says** that **Rav says:** If an animal fell and **stood** up again, **it does not require** a twenty-four-hour **period** mentioned in the mishna (56b) to determine if it may be slaughtered. Nevertheless, **it certainly requires inspection** after slaughter to determine whether it was injured by the fall and rendered a *tereifa*. But if it both stood up and **walked** after the fall, **it does not** even **require inspection** after slaughter. **Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi says: Both** in **this** case **and** in **that** case, i.e., even if it walked after the fall, **it requires inspection.**


###### Chullin 51b:9
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אָמַר רַב יִרְמְיָה בַּר אַחָא אָמַר רַב: פָּשְׁטָה יָדָהּ לַעֲמוֹד, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא עָמְדָה. עָקְרָה רַגְלָהּ לְהַלֵּךְ, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא הָלְכָה. וְרַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: נִנְעֲרָה לַעֲמוֹד, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא עָמְדָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yirmeya bar Aḥa says** that **Rav says:** If the animal **stretched out its foreleg to stand, even if it did not** actually **stand,** it is considered to have stood and does not require a twenty-four-hour waiting period. If **it raised its leg to walk, even if it did not** actually **walk,** it is considered to have walked and does not require inspection according to Rav. **And Rav Ḥisda says:** Even if it did not stretch out its foreleg, but simply **struggled to stand, even if it did not stand,** it is considered to have stood and may be slaughtered that day.


###### Chullin 51b:10
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וְהִלְכְתָא: הֵיכָא דְּנָפְלָה מִן הַגָּג בִּדְלָא יָדְעָה, וְעָמְדָה וְלֹא הָלְכָה – צְרִיכָה בְּדִיקָה, וְאֵינָהּ צְרִיכָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת. וְאִם הָלְכָה – אֲפִילּוּ בְּדִיקָה נָמֵי לָא צְרִיכָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara concludes: **And the *halakha*** is: In any case **where** an animal **fell from the roof unawares,** i.e., unintentionally, **and stood but did not walk,** it **requires inspection** after slaughter **but does not require** a twenty-four-hour **period** before slaughter. **And if it walked, it does not even require an inspection.**


###### Chullin 51b:11
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אָמַר אַמֵּימָר מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב דִּימִי מִנְּהַרְדְּעָא: נְפוּלָה שֶׁאָמְרוּ – צְרִיכָה בְּדִיקָה כְּנֶגֶד בְּנֵי מֵעַיִים. אֲמַר לֵיהּ מָר זוּטְרָא: הָכִי אָמְרִינַן מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב פָּפָּא: צְרִיכָה בְּדִיקָה כְּנֶגֶד בֵּית הֶחָלָל כּוּלּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Ameimar said in the name of Rav Dimi of Neharde’a: A fallen** animal **that** the Sages **said requires inspection** must be inspected **around the intestines** to see whether the organs there have been perforated or torn, rendering the animal a *tereifa*. **Mar Zutra said to him: This** is what **we say in the name of Rav Pappa:** Such an animal **requires inspection around the entire** space of the body **cavity,** in case the ribs or spine have been damaged.


###### Chullin 51b:12
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ הוּנָא מָר בַּר בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נְחֶמְיָה לְרַב אָשֵׁי: סִימָנִין מַאי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: סִימָנִין קָשִׁין הֵן אֵצֶל נְפִילָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Huna Mar, grandson of Rav Neḥemya, said to Rav Ashi: What** about the **two organs that must be severed in ritual slaughter [*simanim*],** i.e., the windpipe and the gullet? Do they require inspection as well? Rav Ashi **said to him:** The ***simanim* are hard** and resistant to damage **in falling.** Therefore, one need not inspect them.


###### Chullin 51b:13
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אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: עוֹף שֶׁנֶּחְבַּט עַל פְּנֵי הַמַּיִם, כֵּיוָן שֶׁשָּׁט מְלֹא קוֹמָתוֹ – דַּיּוֹ. וְלָא אֲמַרַן אֶלָּא מִמַּטָּה לְמַעְלָה, אֲבָל מִלְּמַעְלָה לְמַטָּה – מַיָּא הוּא דְּאַשְׁפִּלוּ. וְאִי מַיָּא קָיְימִי – לֵית לַן בַּהּ, וְאִי שְׁדָא צִיבֵי וְקַדְמֵיהּ – הָא קַדְמֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ With regard to birds that have fallen, **Rav Yehuda says** that **Shmuel says: If a bird** fell and **hit the surface of the water, once it swims the full length of its** body, this **is sufficient** to indicate that its limbs have not been shattered, similar to an animal that walks after falling. **And we said** this **only** in cases where it swam **from below to above,** i.e., upstream. **But** if it swam **from above to below,** i.e., downstream, **it is** only **the water that carried it down,** and it must be inspected. **And if the water is standing,** e.g., in a pond, **we have no** problem **with it,** as it is clear that the bird is swimming on its own strength, and it need not be inspected. **And** even if the bird swims downstream, **if straw was scattered** in front of it **and** the bird **overtook it** with its swimming, **then** the bird **overtook it** on its own strength and need not be inspected.


###### Chullin 51b:14
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גְּלִימָא מְתִיחַ – חָיְישִׁינַן; דְּלָא מְתִיחַ – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן; עוּף וּמְעוּפָּף – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן; אִיזְלָא וּמְקָרְבִי קִיטְרֵי – חָיְישִׁינַן; לָא מְקָרְבִי קִיטְרֵי – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the bird fell on **a garment** spread out **taut** over poles, **we must be concerned** that its limbs may have been shattered from the impact. If it fell on a garment **that was not taut, we** need **not be concerned.** In any event, if the garment was **folded, we** need **not be concerned,** since it presumably was not taut enough to injure the bird. If the bird fell on **a net whose knots were** woven **closely** together, **we must be concerned** that its limbs may have been shattered from the impact. If the **knots were not close** together, **we** need **not be concerned.**


###### Chullin 51b:15
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כִּיתָּנָא דַּעֲבִיד בְּטוּנֵי – חָיְישִׁינַן; דְּהַאי גִּיסָא וּדְהַאי גִּיסָא – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן; אִסּוּרְיָיתָא – חָיְישִׁינַן; כִּיתָּנָא דִּדְיִיק וּנְפִיץ – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן; דְּיִיק וְלָא נְפִיץ – חָיְישִׁינַן; דַּעֲבִיד בִּיזְרֵי כֵּיוָן דְּאִיכָּא בֵּיהּ קִטְרֵי – חָיְישִׁינַן; דַּקְתָּא – חָיְישִׁינַן; דַּקְדַּקְתָּא – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the bird fell directly on to **flax arranged into bundles, we must be concerned** that its limbs may have been shattered from the impact, because the bundles are hard. If it fell on **this side or that side** of the bundles, **we** need **not be concerned,** because it did not fall directly onto the bundles and the impact was dampened. If it fell on **bundles of reeds, we must be concerned.** If it fell on **beaten and combed flax,** with the impurities removed, **we** need **not be concerned,** since it is soft. If it fell on flax that was **beaten but not combed, we must be concerned** due to the residue of flax stalks in the bundles. If it fell on flax **that was bundled** after it was beaten and combed, **since it has knots** in it **we must be concerned.** If the bird fell on flax **tow,** a coarse bundle of unspun fiber, **we must be concerned.** If it fell on **fine tow, we** need **not be concerned,** because it is soft.


###### Chullin 51b:16
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נַבְרָא – חָיְישִׁינַן; תִּימַחְתָא – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן; קִיטְמָא נְהִילָא – חָיְישִׁינַן; לָא נְהִילָא – לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the bird fell on ***nevara*,** the fibers that grow around a palm tree, **we must be concerned** that its limbs may have been shattered. If it fell on ***timaḥta*,** palm bark cut into strips, **we** need **not be concerned.** If it fell on **sifted ashes, we must be concerned,** because the ashes harden. If it fell on **unsifted** ashes, **we** need **not be concerned,** because they are soft and scatter on impact.