## Chullin Daf 84a

###### Chullin 84a:1
[Chullin 84a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:1)

וְלִיפְרְקִינְהוּ וְלִיכַסִּינְהוּ? בָּעֵינַן הַעֲמָדָה וְהַעֲרָכָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges: **But** even if the mishna is dealing with birds consecrated for Temple maintenance, **let one redeem them** after they were slaughtered **and** then **cover their** blood. The Gemara responds: This is not feasible, because in order to redeem a consecrated animal **we require setting and valuating,** i.e., the animal must be stood before a priest in order to evaluate it and only then is it redeemed (see Leviticus 27:11–12). A slaughtered bird cannot be stood before the priest; consequently, it cannot be redeemed.


###### Chullin 84a:2
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וּכְמַאן? אִי כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר, דְּאָמַר: הַכֹּל הָיוּ בִּכְלַל הַעֲמָדָה וְהַעֲרָכָה – הָאָמַר: שְׁחִיטָה שֶׁאֵינָהּ רְאוּיָה שְׁמָהּ שְׁחִיטָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But** if the mishna is dealing with birds consecrated for Temple maintenance, **in accordance with whose** opinion is the mishna? **If** one suggests the mishna is **in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir, who says: Everything,** i.e., animals consecrated both for the altar and for Temple maintenance, **was included in** the requirement of **setting and valuating,** and therefore the slaughtered birds may not be redeemed, this cannot be so. **Doesn’t he** also **say** that **slaughter that is not fit** to render the meat permitted **is** nevertheless **considered** a halakhic act of **slaughter** that requires the covering of the blood? If so, one should be obligated to cover the blood of the bird even if it is not redeemed.


###### Chullin 84a:3
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אִי כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, דְּאָמַר: שְׁחִיטָה שֶׁאֵינָהּ רְאוּיָה לֹא שְׁמָהּ שְׁחִיטָה – הָאָמַר: לֹא הָיוּ בִּכְלַל הַעֲמָדָה וְהַעֲרָכָה?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara continues: And **if** one suggests the mishna is **in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon, who says: Slaughter that is not fit** to render the meat permitted **is not considered** a halakhic act of **slaughter** and therefore the bird would require redemption in order to cover its blood, this cannot be so. **Doesn’t** he also **say** that animals consecrated for Temple maintenance **were not included in** the requirement of **setting and valuating?** If so, let one redeem the slaughtered birds and cover their blood.


###### Chullin 84a:4
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אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: רַבִּי הִיא, וְנָסֵיב לַהּ אַלִּיבָּא דְתַנָּאֵי; בִּשְׁחִיטָה שֶׁאֵינָהּ רְאוּיָה – סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, בְּהַעֲמָדָה וְהַעֲרָכָה – סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said** in reconciliation of this dilemma: The mishna’s ruling **is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, **and he formulates** the mishna **in accordance with** the opinions of different ***tanna’im*: With regard to** the status of an act of **slaughter that is not fit** to render the meat permitted **he holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon,** while **with regard to** the requirement of **setting and valuating he holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir.** Therefore, since one cannot redeem a bird that was consecrated for Temple maintenance once it has been slaughtered, there is no obligation to cover its blood, as the slaughter was not fit to render the meat permitted.


###### Chullin 84a:5
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וְאִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא: כּוּלַּהּ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן הִיא, וְשָׁאנֵי הָכָא דְּאָמַר קְרָא ״וְשָׁפַךְ וְכִסָּה״, מִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְחוּסָּר אֶלָּא שְׁפִיכָה וְכִסּוּי, יָצָא זֶה שֶׁמְחוּסָּר שְׁפִיכָה פְּדִיָּיה וְכִסּוּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you wish, say** instead that **the entire** mishna **is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon,** who holds that birds consecrated for Temple maintenance may be redeemed even after their slaughter. **And** although it would seem that their slaughter is fit to render the meat permitted and that one should therefore be obligated in the mitzva of covering the blood, it is **different here, as the verse states: “And he shall pour out** its blood **and cover** it” (Leviticus 17:13). By juxtaposing “pour out” to “cover,” the verse indicates that the obligation to cover the blood applies only to blood **that is lacking only pouring and covering,** without any intervening step. **Excluded** is **this** blood of birds consecrated for Temple maintenance, **which is lacking pouring, redeeming, and covering.**


###### Chullin 84a:6
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וְהַשְׁתָּא דְּאָתֵית לְהָכִי, אֲפִילּוּ תֵּימָא קׇדְשֵׁי מִזְבֵּחַ, מִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְחוּסָּר אֶלָּא שְׁפִיכָה וְכִסּוּי – יָצָא זֶה, שֶׁמְחוּסָּר שְׁפִיכָה, גְּרִירָה, וְכִסּוּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara notes: **And now that you have arrived at this** explanation, **you** may **even say** that the mishna is referring to birds **consecrated for the altar.** As for the question asked earlier: Why not let one scrape the blood from the altar and then cover it? The verse states: “And he shall pour out its blood and cover it,” indicating that the obligation to cover the blood applies only to blood that is **lacking only pouring and covering,** without any intervening step. **Excluded** is **this** blood of bird offerings, **which is lacking pouring, scraping, and covering.**


###### Chullin 84a:7
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מָר בַּר רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: אָמַר קְרָא ״חַיָּה אוֹ עוֹף״, מָה חַיָּה אֵינָהּ קֹדֶשׁ, אַף עוֹף אֵינוֹ קֹדֶשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara cites another source for the exclusion of consecrated animals from the requirement of covering their blood: **Mar bar Rav Ashi said** that **the verse states** with regard to the mitzva of covering the blood: **“An undomesticated animal or bird”** (Leviticus 17:13). The juxtaposition of these two species intimates an analogy between them: **Just as** the **undomesticated animal** referred to in the verse **is not consecrated,** as undomesticated animals are never fit for sacrifice, **so too,** the **bird** referred to in the verse **is not consecrated.**


###### Chullin 84a:8
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אִי מָה חַיָּה שֶׁאֵין בְּמִינוֹ קֹדֶשׁ, אַף עוֹף שֶׁאֵין בְּמִינוֹ קֹדֶשׁ, אוֹצִיא תּוֹרִין וּבְנֵי יוֹנָה, שֶׁיֵּשׁ בְּמִינָן קֹדֶשׁ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **If** it is so that the *halakhot* of slaughtering a bird are derived from those of an undomesticated animal, then say: **Just as** the verse is referring to **an undomesticated animal, whose species cannot be consecrated** as an offering, **so too,** the verse is referring only to **a bird whose species cannot be consecrated** as an offering. Therefore, **I will exclude** even non-sacred **doves and pigeons, whose species can be consecrated.**


###### Chullin 84a:9
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לָא, כְּחַיָּה – מָה חַיָּה לֹא חִלַּקְתָּ בָּהּ, אַף עוֹף לֹא תַּחְלוֹק בּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this possibility: **No,** the juxtaposition indicates that the *halakha* with regard to the slaughter of birds is entirely **like** that of **an undomesticated animal.** Therefore, **just as** in the case of **an undomesticated animal, you did not differentiate** between its various species and all non-sacred animals are included in the mitzva, **so too,** with regard to the **bird** mentioned in the verse, **you should not differentiate** between its various species.


###### Chullin 84a:10
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ יַעֲקֹב מִינָאָה לְרָבָא: קַיְימָא לַן חַיָּה בִּכְלַל בְּהֵמָה לְסִימָנִין, אֵימָא נָמֵי בְּהֵמָה בִּכְלַל חַיָּה לְכִסּוּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ Concerning the *halakha* that covering the blood does not apply to a domesticated animal, the Gemara says that **Ya’akov the heretic said to Rava: We maintain** that **an undomesticated animal,** e.g., a deer, is **included** in the category of **a domesticated animal with regard to** the **characteristics** necessary to determine whether the animal is kosher, i.e., it chews its cud and has split hooves (see Deuteronomy 14:4–6). If so, **I will also say** that **a domesticated animal is included** in the category of **an undomesticated animal with regard to** the mitzva of **covering** the blood.


###### Chullin 84a:11
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ: עָלֶיךָ אָמַר קְרָא ״עַל הָאָרֶץ תִּשְׁפְּכֶנּוּ כַּמָּיִם״, מָה מַיִם לָא בָּעֵי כִּסּוּי, אַף הַאי נָמֵי לָא בָּעֵי כִּסּוּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rava **said to him: With regard to your** claim, **the verse states** in reference to the blood of a domesticated animal: “You may slaughter of your cattle and of your sheep…but be strong not to eat the blood…**you shall pour it out on the ground, like water”** (Deuteronomy 12:21–24). Accordingly, **just as water does not require covering, so too, this** blood of a domesticated animal **does not require covering.**


###### Chullin 84a:12
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אֶלָּא מֵעַתָּה, יַטְבִּילוּ בּוֹ? אָמַר קְרָא: ״אַךְ מַעְיָן וּבוֹר מִקְוֵה מַיִם יִהְיֶה טָהוֹר״, הָנֵי אִין, מִידֵּי אַחֲרִינָא לָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **If that is so,** that the verse equates the blood of a domesticated animal with water, then let one **immerse** ritually impure items **in it** to purify them, just as he can immerse them in water. The Gemara responds: **The verse states: “But a spring or a cistern, or a gathering of water shall be pure”** (Leviticus 11:36). The exclusionary term: “But,” indicates that only concerning **these** bodies of water, **yes,** they render pure an impure item, while **something else,** e.g., blood, does **not.**


###### Chullin 84a:13
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וְאֵימָא: הָנֵי מִילֵּי לְמַעוֹטֵי שְׁאָר מַשְׁקִין, דְּלָא אִיקְּרוֹ מַיִם, אֲבָל דָּם דְּאִיקְּרִי מַיִם – הָכִי נָמֵי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges: **But** perhaps one can **say** that **this matter,** i.e., the exclusionary term in the verse, serves only **to exclude other liquids that are not called water. But** with regard to **blood, which is called water,** as the verse states: “You shall pour it out on the ground, like water,” one may **indeed** immerse ritually impure items in it.


###### Chullin 84a:14
[Chullin 84a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:14)

תְּרֵי מִיעוּטֵי כְּתִיבִי: ״מַעְיָן מַיִם״ ״וּבוֹר מַיִם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **Two exclusions are written** in the verse discussing ritually purifying waters: **A spring of water, and: A cistern of water.** The term “water” is understood as being attached to each of the bodies mentioned in the verse. The additional exclusion serves to exclude blood.


###### Chullin 84a:15
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אֵימָא: אִידֵּי וְאִידֵּי לְמַעוֹטֵי שְׁאָר מַשְׁקִין, חַד לְמַעוֹטֵי זוֹחֲלִין, וְחַד לְמַעוֹטֵי מְכוּנָּסִין!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges: **Say** that both **this** phrase, a spring of water, **and that** phrase, a cistern of water, serve **to exclude other liquids,** and not blood, whereby **one** phrase is **to exclude flowing** liquids that are not water from having the status of a spring, which renders an item ritually pure even when it is flowing; **and one** phrase serves **to exclude gathered** liquids that are not water from having the status of a ritual bath, which renders an item pure only when the water in the ritual bath is gathered.


###### Chullin 84a:16
[Chullin 84a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:16)

תְּלָתָא מִיעוּטֵי כְּתִיבִי: ״מַעְיָן מַיִם״, ״וּבוֹר מַיִם״, ״מִקְוֵה מַיִם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **Three exclusions are written** in the verse: **A spring of water,** to exclude flowing liquids; **and: A cistern of water,** to exclude gathered liquids; **and: A gathering of water,** to exclude blood.


###### Chullin 84a:17
[Chullin 84a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:17)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״אֲשֶׁר יָצוּד״, אֵין לִי אֶלָּא אֲשֶׁר יָצוּד, נִצּוֹדִין וְעוֹמְדִין מֵאֲלֵיהֶן מִנַּיִן, כְּגוֹן אֲוָוזִין וְתַרְנְגוֹלִים?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: The verse states with regard to covering the blood: “And any man of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among them, **who traps** a trapping of an undomesticated animal or bird that may be eaten, he shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth” (Leviticus 17:13). **I have** derived **only** that one is obligated to cover the blood of an undomesticated animal or bird **that one traps. From where** is it derived that undomesticated animals or birds that are **already** considered **trapped on their own, such as geese and chickens** that do not roam freely, are also included in the mitzva of covering the blood?


###### Chullin 84a:18
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תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״צֵיד״, מִכׇּל מָקוֹם. אִם כֵּן, מָה תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״אֲשֶׁר יָצוּד״? לִמְּדָה תּוֹרָה דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ, שֶׁלֹּא יֹאכַל אָדָם בָּשָׂר אֶלָּא בַּהַזְמָנָה הַזֹּאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The verse states “a trapping”** to indicate that **in any case,** one is obligated to cover the blood of an undomesticated animal. **If so, what** is the meaning when **the verse states: “Who traps,”** if it is not to be understood literally? The *baraita* explains: **The Torah taught** that it is **a desired mode of behavior that a person should consume meat only with this mode of preparation.** That is, just as the meat that one traps is not readily available, so too, one should not become accustomed to consuming meat.


###### Chullin 84a:19
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״כִּי יַרְחִיב ה׳ אֱלֹהֶיךָ אֶת גְּבֻלְךָ״ – לִמְּדָה תּוֹרָה דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ, שֶׁלֹּא יֹאכַל אָדָם בָּשָׂר אֶלָּא לְתֵאָבוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
In a similar vein, **the Sages taught** in a *baraita* that the verse states: **“When the Lord, your God, expands your** boundary…according to every craving of your soul you may eat meat” (Deuteronomy 12:20). **The Torah taught** that it is **a desired mode of behavior that a person should consume meat due only to appetite.** That is, one should consume meat only when he feels a need to eat it.


###### Chullin 84a:20
[Chullin 84a:20](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:20)

יָכוֹל יִקַּח אָדָם מִן הַשּׁוּק וְיֹאכַל? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״וְזָבַחְתָּ מִבְּקָרְךָ וּמִצֹּאנְךָ״. יָכוֹל יִזְבַּח כׇּל בְּקָרוֹ וְיֹאכַל, כָּל צֹאנוֹ וְיֹאכַל? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״מִבְּקָרְךָ״ – וְלֹא כׇּל בְּקָרְךָ, ״מִצֹּאנְךָ״ – וְלֹא כׇּל צֹאנְךָ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: One **might** have thought that **a person may purchase** meat **from the marketplace and consume** it. Therefore, **the** next **verse states: “And you may slaughter of your cattle and of your flock,”** indicating that one should consume the meat of animals of his own flock, not those purchased in the marketplace. One **might** have thought that a person **may slaughter all of his cattle,** i.e., his only cow, **and consume** the meat, or slaughter **all of his flock,** i.e., his only sheep, **and consume** the meat. Therefore, **the verse states: “Of your cattle,”** indicating some, **but not all of, your cattle; “of your flock,” but not all of your flock.**


###### Chullin 84a:21
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מִכָּאן אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה: מִי שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ מָנֶה – יִקַּח לְפָסוֹ לִיטְרָא יָרָק, עֲשָׂרָה מָנֶה – יִקַּח לְפָסוֹ לִיטְרָא דָּגִים, חֲמִשִּׁים מָנֶה – יִקַּח לְפָסוֹ לִיטְרָא בָּשָׂר, מֵאָה מָנֶה – יִשְׁפְּתוּ לוֹ קְדֵרָה בְּכׇל יוֹם. וְאִינָךְ אֵימַת? מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת לְעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**From here, Rabbi Elazar ben Azaria said: One who has one hundred** dinars **should purchase a *litra* of vegetables for his stewpot [*lefaso*];** one who has **one thousand** dinars **should purchase a *litra* of fish for his stewpot;** one who has **five thousand** dinars **should purchase a *litra* of meat for his stewpot;** and if one has **ten thousand** dinars, his servants **should place a pot** of meat on the stove **for him every day.** The Gemara asks: **And** with regard to **these** other individuals mentioned by Rabbi Elazar ben Azaria, **when,** i.e., how often, should they consume meat? The Gemara responds: **Every Shabbat eve.**


###### Chullin 84a:22
[Chullin 84a:22](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:22)

אָמַר רַב: צְרִיכִין אָנוּ לָחוֹשׁ לְדִבְרֵי זָקֵן. אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: אַבָּא מִמִּשְׁפַּחַת בְּרִיאִים הֲוָה, אֲבָל כְּגוֹן אָנוּ, מִי שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ פְּרוּטָה בְּתוֹךְ כִּיסוֹ – יְרִיצֶנָּה לַחֶנְוָונִי. אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: כְּגוֹן אָנוּ לוֹוִין וְאוֹכְלִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav says: We must be concerned for the statement of the elder,** i.e., Rabbi Elazar ben Azaria, and be thrifty with our expenditure on food items. **Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Abba,** i.e., Rav, **was from a family of** particularly **healthy** individuals, and was able to subsist on the modest diet suggested by Rabbi Elazar ben Azaria. **But** with regard to people **such as us,** who are not as healthy, **one who has** even **one *peruta* in his pocket should hasten** with **it to the storekeeper** and purchase food. Two generations later, **Rav Naḥman said:** With regard to people **such as us,** who are physically weaker than those in previous generations, not only do we not delay the purchase of food items, we even **borrow** money to purchase food **and eat.**


###### Chullin 84a:23
[Chullin 84a:23](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:23)

״כְּבָשִׂים לִלְבוּשֶׁךָ״ – מִגֵּז כְּבָשִׂים יְהֵא מַלְבּוּשֶׁךָ, ״וּמְחִיר שָׂדֶה עַתּוּדִים״ – לְעוֹלָם יִמְכּוֹר אָדָם שָׂדֶה וְיִקַּח עַתּוּדִים, וְאַל יִמְכּוֹר אָדָם עַתּוּדִים וְיִקַּח שָׂדֶה. ״וְדֵי חֲלֵב עִזִּים״ – דַּיּוֹ לְאָדָם שֶׁיִּתְפַּרְנֵס מֵחֲלֵב גְּדָיִים וּטְלָאִים שֶׁבְּתוֹךְ בֵּיתוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara continues its discussion with regard to one’s livelihood: The verse states: “The lambs will be for your clothing, and goats the worth of a field. And there will be goats’ milk enough for your food, for the food of your household; and sustenance for your maidens” (Proverbs 27:26–27). **“The lambs will be for your clothing”** indicates that **your clothing should be** produced **from the shearings of lambs,** i.e., purchase lambs from whose wool you can produce clothing. **“And goats the worth of a field”** indicates that **a person should always** seek to **sell a field and purchase goats** in order to benefit from their milk, wool, and offspring, **and a person should not sell goats and purchase a field** instead. **“And there will be goats’ milk enough”** indicates that **it is sufficient for a person that he be sustained from the milk of kids and lambs that are in his house.**


###### Chullin 84a:24
[Chullin 84a:24](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:24)

״לְלַחְמְךָ לְלֶחֶם בֵּיתֶךָ״ – לַחְמְךָ קוֹדֶם לְלֶחֶם בֵּיתֶךָ. ״וְחַיִּים לְנַעֲרוֹתֶיךָ״ – אָמַר מָר זוּטְרָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן: תֵּן חַיִּים לְנַעֲרוֹתֶיךָ, מִיכָּן לִמְּדָה תּוֹרָה דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ שֶׁלֹּא יְלַמֵּד אָדָם אֶת בְּנוֹ בָּשָׂר וְיַיִן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**“For your food, for the food of your household”** indicates that **your food comes before the food of your household,** i.e., one must first ensure that he has food for himself before providing for others. With regard to the phrase: **“And sustenance for your maidens,” Mar Zutra, son of Rav Naḥman, said:** The verse indicates that you must **give sustenance to your youth,** i.e., to your children. **From here, the Torah taught** that it is **a desired mode of behavior that a person should not accustom his son** to eat **meat and** drink **wine;** rather, he should teach his children to eat less expensive foods.


###### Chullin 84a:25
[Chullin 84a:25](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Chullin/r/84a:25)

אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yoḥanan says:**