## Eruvin Daf 11a

###### Eruvin 11a:1
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אִיפְּכָא מַאי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What is** the *halakha* in **the opposite** situation? Does an opening in the form of a doorway also serve to permit carrying in an alleyway that is more than twenty cubits high?


###### Eruvin 11a:2
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תָּא שְׁמַע דְּתַנְיָא: מָבוֹי שֶׁהוּא גָּבוֹהַּ מֵעֶשְׂרִים אַמָּה יְמַעֵט, וְאִם יֵשׁ לוֹ צוּרַת הַפֶּתַח אֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְמַעֵט.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Come** and **hear** the answer to this question, **as it was taught** in a *baraita*: If the cross beam placed over the entrance to **an alleyway is higher than twenty cubits, one must diminish** its height, **but if** the entrance **has an opening in the form of a doorway, he need not diminish it.**


###### Eruvin 11a:3
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אֲמַלְתְּרָא בְּרׇחְבּוֹ מַאי? תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּתַנְיָא: מָבוֹי שֶׁהוּא גָּבוֹהַּ מֵעֶשְׂרִים אַמָּה יְמַעֵט, וְהָרָחָב מֵעֶשֶׂר יְמַעֵט, וְאִם יֵשׁ לוֹ צוּרַת הַפֶּתַח אֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְמַעֵט, וְאִם יֵשׁ לוֹ אֲמַלְתְּרָא אֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְמַעֵט.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What is** the effect of **a cornice with** regard to the need to diminish the alleyway’s **width?** Does the cornice render the alleyway fit for one to carry within it, even if the entrance is more than ten cubits wide? The Gemara answers: **Come** and **hear** an answer **as it was taught** in a *baraita*: If the cross beam placed over the entrance to **an alleyway is higher than twenty cubits, one must diminish** its height, **and** if the alleyway is **wider than ten** cubits, **one must diminish** its width. **However, if** the entrance to the alleyway **has an opening in the form of a doorway, he need not diminish it, and,** similarly, **if it has a cornice, he need not diminish it.**


###### Eruvin 11a:4
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מַאי לָאו אַסֵּיפָא: לָא, אַרֵישָׁא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara explains the proof it wishes to adduce from this *baraita*: **What, is** this statement with regard to the cornice **not** referring **to the latter** clause, i.e., the case of an alleyway that is wider than ten cubits, proving that a cornice can render an alleyway otherwise too wide fit for one to carry within it? The Gemara refutes this argument: **No,** this statement is referring **to the first** clause of the *baraita*, that a cornice is effective for an alleyway more than twenty cubits high, but it tells us nothing about one that is more than ten cubits wide.


###### Eruvin 11a:5
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מַתְנֵי לֵיהּ רַב יְהוּדָה לְחִיָּיא בַּר רַב קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב: אֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְמַעֵט. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַתְנְיֵיהּ, צָרִיךְ לְמַעֵט.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the same issue, **Rav Yehuda would teach** the *baraita* to **Ḥiyya bar Rav before Rav** as follows: If the entrance to an alleyway that is wider than ten cubits has an opening in the form of a doorway, **he need not diminish** its width. Rav **said to him: Teach him** that the correct version of the *baraita* is: **He must diminish** its width.


###### Eruvin 11a:6
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אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מִדִּבְרֵי רַבֵּינוּ נִלְמַד: חָצֵר שֶׁרוּבָּהּ פְּתָחִים וְחַלּוֹנוֹת — אֵינָהּ נִיתֶּרֶת בְּצוּרַת הַפֶּתַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said: From the statement of our teacher,** Rav, who said that the entrance to an alleyway must be diminished even if it has an opening in the form of a doorway, **we will learn** that with regard to **a courtyard,** the walls of **which are mostly entrances and windows, it is not permitted** to carry within it even **by** having an opening in **the form of a doorway.** Even if the entrances have an opening in the form of a doorway, this does not render a mostly breached courtyard wall into a closed wall.


###### Eruvin 11a:7
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מַאי טַעְמָא — הוֹאִיל וְיוֹתֵר מֵעֶשֶׂר אוֹסֵר בְּמָבוֹי, וּפָרוּץ מְרוּבֶּה עַל הָעוֹמֵד אוֹסֵר בֶּחָצֵר. מָה יוֹתֵר מֵעֶשֶׂר הָאוֹסֵר בְּמָבוֹי — אֵינוֹ נִיתָּר בְּצוּרַת הַפֶּתַח, אַף פָּרוּץ מְרוּבֶּה עַל הָעוֹמֵד הָאוֹסֵר בֶּחָצֵר — אֵינוֹ נִיתָּר בְּצוּרַת הַפֶּתַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**What is the reason? Since** an opening of **more than ten** cubits **renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in an alleyway, and** likewise when the **breached** segment of a wall that **is greater than its standing** segment **renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in a courtyard,** the following claim can be made: **Just as,** according to Rav, in the case of an opening **more than ten** cubits wide **that renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in an alleyway,** carrying in the alleyway **is not permitted by the form of a doorway** in the opening, **so** too a case where **breached** segment of a wall **is greater than its standing** segment **that renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in a courtyard,** carrying in the courtyard **is not permitted by the form of a doorway** in the opening.


###### Eruvin 11a:8
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מָה לְיוֹתֵר מֵעֶשֶׂר הָאוֹסֵר בְּמָבוֹי — שֶׁכֵּן לֹא הִתַּרְתָּ בּוֹ אֵצֶל פַּסֵּי בִירָאוֹת לְרַבִּי מֵאִיר, תֹּאמַר בְּפָרוּץ מְרוּבֶּה עַל הָעוֹמֵד הָאוֹסֵר בֶּחָצֵר — שֶׁכֵּן הִתַּרְתָּ אֵצֶל פַּסֵּי בִירָאוֹת לְדִבְרֵי הַכֹּל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this argument: **What** is the basis for comparison to an opening that is **more than ten** cubits wide **that renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in an alleyway?** It is not permitted by having an opening in the form of a doorway **because you did not permit** an opening of that size **with regard to** the case of upright **boards surrounding a well, in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir.** Can **you say** the same **in a** case where the **breached** segment of a wall is **greater than the standing** segment **that renders it prohibited** for one to carry **in a courtyard,** that carrying in the courtyard will not be permitted by the form of a doorway? That situation is clearly not as severe a problem, **as you permitted** carrying **with regard to** upright **boards surrounding a well according to everyone.** Consequently, no comparison can be made between the case of an opening wider than ten cubits in an alleyway and a partition in which the breached segment is greater than the standing segment in a courtyard.


###### Eruvin 11a:9
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לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ: דְּפָנוֹת הַלָּלוּ שֶׁרוּבָּן פְּתָחִים וְחַלּוֹנוֹת מוּתָּר, וּבִלְבַד שֶׁיְּהֵא עוֹמֵד מְרוּבֶּה עַל הַפָּרוּץ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Let us say** that the following *baraita* **supports** this opinion that the form of a doorway is ineffective in a case where the breached segments of a wall are greater than its standing segments: With regard to the area enclosed by **these walls that most of them** consist of **entrances and windows,** it is **permitted** to carry on Shabbat therein, **provided that the standing** segments **are greater than the breached** segments.


###### Eruvin 11a:10
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שֶׁרוּבָּן סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ? — אֶלָּא אֵימָא: שֶׁרִיבָּה בָּהֶן פְּתָחִים וְחַלּוֹנוֹת, וּבִלְבַד שֶׁיְּהֵא עוֹמֵד מְרוּבֶּה עַל הַפָּרוּץ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara first analyzes the wording of the *baraita*: The Gemara analyzes the formulation of the *baraita*: **Can it enter your mind that** the *baraita* is referring to a case **where most of** the walls are entrances and windows? If so, the standing segments are not greater than the breached segments. **Rather,** emend the *baraita*: Carrying in the area enclosed by these walls **to which he added** many **entrances and windows is permitted, provided that the standing** segments **are greater than the breached** segments. Apparently, if the breached segments are greater than the standing segments, carrying is not permitted even if the breaches are in the form of doorways.


###### Eruvin 11a:11
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אָמַר רַב כָּהֲנָא: כִּי תַּנְיָא הָהִיא — בְּפִיתְחֵי שִׁימָאֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Kahana said** that his is not an absolute proof: **When this** *baraita* **was taught,** it was taught **with regard to broken entrances** [*pitḥei shima’ei*] that lack the proper form of doorways.


###### Eruvin 11a:12
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מַאי פִּיתְחֵי שִׁימָאֵי? פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ רַב רְחוּמִי וְרַב יוֹסֵף. חַד אָמַר: דְּלֵית לְהוּ שִׁקְפֵי, וְחַד אָמַר: דְּלֵית לְהוּ תִּיקְרָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **What are broken entrances? Rav Reḥumei and Rav Yosef disagreed** on the matter. **One said that they do not have** proper **doorposts, and** the other **one said that they do not have lintels** above the openings.


###### Eruvin 11a:13
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וְאַף רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן סָבַר לַהּ לְהָא דְּרַב. דְּאָמַר רָבִין בַּר רַב אַדָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּאָדָם אֶחָד מִבִּקְעַת בֵּית חוֹרְתָן שֶׁנָּעַץ אַרְבָּעָה קוּנְדֵּיסִין בְּאַרְבַּע פִּינּוֹת הַשָּׂדֶה, וּמָתַח זְמוֹרָה עֲלֵיהֶם. וּבָא מַעֲשֶׂה לִפְנֵי חֲכָמִים, וְהִתִּירוּ לוֹ לְעִנְיַן כִּלְאַיִם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **And even Rabbi Yoḥanan holds that** opinion **of Rav,** that an opening in the form of a doorway does not permit carrying if the opening is more than ten cubits wide. **As Ravin bar Rav Adda said** that **Rabbi Yitzḥak said:** There was **an incident involving a person from the valley of Beit Ḥortan who stuck four poles** [***kunddeisin***] into the ground **in the four corners of** his **field, and stretched a vine over them,** creating the form of a doorway on each side. He intended to seal the area so that he would be permitted to plant a vineyard in close proximity without creating a forbidden mixture of diverse kinds in a vineyard. **And the case came before the Sages, and they permitted him** to consider it sealed **with regard to diverse kinds.**


###### Eruvin 11a:14
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וְאָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: כְּדֶרֶךְ שֶׁהִתִּירוּ לוֹ לְעִנְיַן כִּלְאַיִם כָּךְ הִתִּירוּ לוֹ לְעִנְיַן שַׁבָּת. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: לְכִלְאַיִם הִתִּירוּ לוֹ, לְעִנְיַן שַׁבָּת לֹא הִתִּירוּ לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Reish Lakish said: Just as they permitted him** to consider it sealed **with regard to diverse kinds, so** too **they permitted him** to consider it sealed **with regard to Shabbat,** i.e., they permitted carrying within this area. **Rabbi Yoḥanan said: With regard to diverse kinds, they permitted him** to consider it sealed, however, **with regard to Shabbat, they did not permit him** to do so.


###### Eruvin 11a:15
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בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן? אִילֵימָא מִן הַצַּד, וְהָאָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: צוּרַת הַפֶּתַח שֶׁעֲשָׂאָהּ מִן הַצַּד לֹא עָשָׂה וְלֹא כְלוּם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara clarifies: **With what** case **are we dealing** here? **If you say** that he draped the vines on the posts **from the side,** rather than on top of them, **didn’t Rav Ḥisda say** with regard to Shabbat: If **one constructed** an opening in **the form of a doorway from the side, he has done nothing?**


###### Eruvin 11a:16
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אֶלָּא עַל גַּבָּן. וּבְמַאי? אִילֵימָא בְּעֶשֶׂר — בְּהָא לֵימָא רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בְּשַׁבָּת לָא?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** it must be that he set the vines **on top of** the posts. **And in what** circumstances did Rabbi Yoḥanan and Reish Lakish disagree? **If you say** that the posts were set at a distance **of ten** cubits from each other, **would Rabbi Yoḥanan say in that** case that **with regard to Shabbat,** they did **not** permit him to consider the area sealed? Everyone agrees that the form of a doorway is effective for an entrance that is only ten cubits wide.


###### Eruvin 11a:17
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אֶלָּא לָאו — בְּיָתֵר מֵעֶשֶׂר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, isn’t** it referring to a case **where** the posts were **more than ten** cubits apart? Apparently, Rabbi Yoḥanan agrees with Rav, that an opening in the form of a doorway does not permit carrying if the original opening is wider than ten cubits.


###### Eruvin 11a:18
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לָא, לְעוֹלָם בְּעֶשֶׂר וּמִן הַצַּד — וּבִדְרַב חִסְדָּא קָא מִיפַּלְגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara refutes this proof: **No, actually** it is referring to a case **where** the posts were **ten** cubits apart, **and** the person attached the vines to the posts **from the side. And** Reish Lakish and Rabbi Yoḥanan **disagree with regard to** the opinion of **Rav Ḥisda.** Reish Lakish maintains that the form of a doorway is effective even when the horizontal cross beam is attached to the vertical posts from the side, and Rabbi Yoḥanan agrees with Rav Ḥisda that a form of a doorway is ineffective for the purpose of carrying on Shabbat when constructed in such a manner.


###### Eruvin 11a:19
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וּרְמִי דְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אַדְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, וּרְמִי דְּרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אַדְּרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ, דְּאָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יְהוּדָה בְּרַבִּי חֲנִינָא:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **But** it is possible to **raise a contradiction** between this statement **of Rabbi Yoḥanan and** another statement **of Rabbi Yoḥanan; and** it is possible to **raise a contradiction** between this statement **of Reish Lakish and** another statement **of Reish Lakish. As Reish Lakish said in the name of Rabbi Yehuda, son of Rabbi Ḥanina:**