## Gittin Daf 22b

###### Gittin 22b:1
[Gittin 22b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:1)

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר הִיא, דְּאָמַר: עֵדֵי מְסִירָה כָּרְתִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is** the opinion of the *tanna* **Rabbi Elazar, who says: Witnesses of the transmission** of the bill of divorce **effect** the divorce. Since the witnesses read the bill of divorce before it is transmitted in their presence, they may be relied upon to confirm the contents of the bill of divorce in court. Therefore, even if it was written on erased paper, there is no possibility that it would be forged, as the witnesses read what was written before it is given.


###### Gittin 22b:2
[Gittin 22b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:2)

וְאָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: לֹא הִכְשִׁיר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אֶלָּא לְאַלְתַּר, אֲבָל מִכָּאן עַד עֲשָׂרָה יָמִים – לָא; חָיְישִׁינַן דִּילְמָא הֲוָה בֵּיהּ תְּנָאָה וְזַיֵּיפְתֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** the *amora* **Rabbi Elazar says:** The *tanna* **Rabbi Elazar deemed** such a bill of divorce **valid only** when it was taken to court in order to confirm the contents **immediately** after it was transferred to the woman. **However,** if the witnesses testify **from now until ten days,** i.e., sometime later, he did **not** deem it valid. Why? **We are concerned** that **perhaps** the bill of divorce **had a stipulation** written on it **and she forged it** by erasing the stipulation, as this bill of divorce was written on material that enables a person to easily alter what is written. Only if the witnesses testify immediately can the court be sure that they did not forget what is written.


###### Gittin 22b:3
[Gittin 22b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:3)

וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲפִילּוּ מִכָּאן עַד עֲשָׂרָה יָמִים; דְּאִם אִיתָא דַּהֲוָה בֵּיהּ תְּנַאי – מִידְכָּר דְּכִירִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Even** if they testify **from now until ten days** it is valid, as, **if it is so that it had a stipulation,** then the witnesses **will remember** it, as they would not forget something so obvious. Therefore, if the woman erased the stipulation, the witnesses would not verify the bill of divorce.


###### Gittin 22b:4
[Gittin 22b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:4)

וְאָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: לֹא הִכְשִׁיר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אֶלָּא בְּגִיטִּין, אֲבָל בִּשְׁאָר שְׁטָרוֹת – לָא, דִּכְתִיב: ״וּנְתַתָּם בִּכְלִי חָרֶשׂ לְמַעַן יַעַמְדוּ יָמִים רַבִּים״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rabbi Elazar** the *amora* also **says:** The *tanna* **Rabbi Elazar deemed valid** a document that is written on these surfaces **only with regard to bills of divorce but not for other documents, as it is written** with regard to a deed of purchase: **“And put them in an earthen vessel; so that they will remain many days”** (Jeremiah 32:14). This indicates that a deed of purchase and other similar documents must be made from a material that will last for a long time without being changed. A document that can be forged may not be relied upon long term.


###### Gittin 22b:5
[Gittin 22b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:5)

וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֲפִילּוּ בִּשְׁטָרוֹת. וְהָכְתִיב: ״לְמַעַן יַעַמְדוּ יָמִים רַבִּים״! הָתָם עֵצָה טוֹבָה קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** Rabbi Elazar deemed these surfaces valid **even in** the case of other **documents.** The Gemara asks with regard to Rabbi Yoḥanan’s opinion: **But isn’t it written: “So that they will remain many days”?** The Gemara answers: **There** the verse **teaches us good advice,** but it is not a halakhic requirement. It advised that the document be written in such a manner that it can remain for an extended period of time, as it may be needed to prove ownership of the land.


###### Gittin 22b:6
[Gittin 22b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:6)

**מַתְנִי׳** הַכֹּל כְּשֵׁרִין לִכְתּוֹב אֶת הַגֵּט, אֲפִילּוּ חֵרֵשׁ, שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן. הָאִשָּׁה כּוֹתֶבֶת אֶת גִּיטָּהּ, וְהָאִישׁ כּוֹתֵב אֶת שׁוֹבָרוֹ. שֶׁאֵין קִיּוּם הַגֵּט אֶלָּא בְּחוֹתְמָיו.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** **Anyone is qualified to write a bill of divorce, even a deaf-mute, an imbecile, or a minor.** Additionally, **a woman may write her** own **bill of divorce** and give it to her husband so that he can present it to her. **And a man may write his** own **receipt,** which must be given to him by the woman to confirm that he has paid her the value of her marriage contract. This is because **the ratification of a bill of divorce is only through its signatories,** and it is irrelevant who wrote it.


###### Gittin 22b:7
[Gittin 22b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Gittin/r/22b:7)

**גְּמָ׳** וְהָא לָאו בְּנֵי דֵּיעָה נִינְהוּ! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא:

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara asks: **But** how can a deaf-mute, imbecile, or a minor write a bill of divorce? **They are not** halakhically **competent,** and they are not capable of writing a bill of divorce with the intent that it be for a particular woman. **Rav Huna says:**