## Gittin Daf 67a

###### Gittin 67a:1
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״אִמְרוּ לְסוֹפֵר וְיִכְתּוֹב, וְלִפְלוֹנִי וּפְלוֹנִי וְיַחְתֹּמוּ״; וּמִשּׁוּם כִּיסּוּפָא דְּסוֹפֵר – חָיְישִׁי וּמַחְתְּמִי חַד מֵהָנָךְ סָהֲדִי, וְסוֹפֵר בַּהֲדַיְיהוּ, וּבַעַל לָא אָמַר הָכִי!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Tell a scribe and he will write** the document **and** tell **so-and-so and so-and-so and they will sign** it. **And due to the shame of the scribe,** who asks: Don’t you consider me a sufficiently upright person to sign the document as a witness, the agents **are concerned** to avoid that disgrace **and have one of those witnesses and the scribe sign together with him, and the husband did not say** to do **so.** The bill of divorce is invalid because it was signed contrary to the husband’s instructions, and the agents will mistakenly think it is valid.


###### Gittin 67a:2
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כֵּיוָן דְּאָמַר מָר: ״כָּשֵׁר, וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה כֵּן בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל״ – לָא שְׁכִיחַ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Since the Master said,** as cited later, that such a bill of divorce is **valid, however, it shall not be done in Israel,** as the husband himself should appoint the scribe and the witnesses, **it is** an **uncommon** case for the husband to appoint an agent to arrange the bill of divorce, and the Sages do not issue a decree for cases that are uncommon.


###### Gittin 67a:3
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וְלֵיחוּשׁ דִּילְמָא אֲמַר לְהוּ לְבֵי תְרֵי: ״אִמְרוּ לְסוֹפֵר וְיִכְתּוֹב, וְאַתֶּם חֲתוֹמוּ״, וְאָזְלִי הָנָךְ מִשּׁוּם כִּיסּוּפָא דְּסוֹפֵר, וּמַחְתְּמִי לֵיהּ לְסוֹפֵר בַּהֲדֵי חַד מִינַּיְיהוּ, וּבַעַל לָא אָמַר הָכִי! אָמְרִי: הָא נָמֵי ״כָּשֵׁר וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה״ הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And let us be concerned lest** the husband **say to two** people: **Tell the scribe and he will write** the document **and you sign** it, **and these** two, **due to the shame of the scribe, go and have the scribe sign** the document **together with one of them, and the husband did not say** to do **so.** The Sages **say:** In **this** case **too, it is valid; however, it shall not be done.** This too is uncommon, and there is neither concern nor a decree.


###### Gittin 67a:4
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הָנִיחָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה״; אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר ״כָּשֵׁר וְתַעֲשֶׂה״ – מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **This works out well according to the one who said** in this case as well: It is **valid; however, it shall not be done. But according to the one who said:** It is **valid and it may be done,** i.e., it is permitted *ab initio*, **what is there to say?**


###### Gittin 67a:5
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אֶלָּא רַבִּי יוֹסֵי – תַּרְתֵּי אָמַר; וּשְׁמוּאֵל סָבַר לַהּ כְּווֹתֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא, וּפְלִיג עֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** this is the explanation. **Rabbi Yosei stated two** *halakhot*: The first is that verbal directives cannot be delegated to an agent. The second is that even when the husband said: Tell another to write the document, this agency cannot be transferred to another person. **And Shmuel holds in accordance with** the opinion of Rabbi Yosei **in one** case, i.e., that verbal directives cannot be delegated to an agent, **and he disagrees with him in one** case, as Shmuel holds that if the husband explicitly said: Tell another to write the document, this agency can be transferred.


###### Gittin 67a:6
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גּוּפָא – אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר רַבִּי: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי, דְּאָמַר מִילֵּי לָא מִימַּסְרָן לְשָׁלִיחַ. אָמַר לְפָנָיו רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בְּרַבִּי: מֵאַחַר שֶׁרַבִּי מֵאִיר וַחֲנִינָא אִישׁ אוֹנוֹ חוֹלְקִין עַל רַבִּי יוֹסֵי, מָה רָאָה רַבִּי לוֹמַר הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ With regard to **the** previously cited matter **itself, Shmuel says** that **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **says: The *halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei,** who **says:** Verbal **directives cannot be delegated to an agent. Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, **said before** his father: **Since Rabbi Meir and** Rabbi **Ḥanina of Ono,** who hold that verbal directives can be delegated to an agent, **disagree with Rabbi Yosei, what led Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **to say** that the ***halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei?**


###### Gittin 67a:7
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אָמַר לוֹ: שְׁתוֹק בְּנִי, שְׁתוֹק, לֹא רָאִיתָ אֶת רַבִּי יוֹסֵי, אִילְמָלֵי רְאִיתוֹ – נִמּוּקוֹ עִמּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **said to his** son: **Be silent, my son; be silent. You did not see Rabbi Yosei, as, if you had seen him,** you would know that **his reasoning [*nimmuko*] accompanies his** statements. Therefore, I deem his opinion most reliable.


###### Gittin 67a:8
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דְּתַנְיָא, אִיסִי בֶּן יְהוּדָה הָיָה מוֹנֶה שִׁבְחָן שֶׁל חֲכָמִים: רַבִּי מֵאִיר – חָכָם וְסוֹפֵר; רַבִּי יְהוּדָה – חָכָם לִכְשֶׁיִּרְצֶה; רַבִּי טַרְפוֹן – גַּל שֶׁל אֱגוֹזִין; רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל – חֲנוּת מְיוּזֶּנֶת; רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא – אוֹצָר בָּלוּם; רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן נוּרִי – קוּפַּת הָרוֹכְלִים; רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה – קוּפָּה שֶׁל בְּשָׂמִים; מִשְׁנַת רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב – קַב וְנָקִי; רַבִּי יוֹסֵי – נִמּוּקוֹ עִמּוֹ; רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן – טוֹחֵן הַרְבֵּה וּמוֹצִיא קִימְעָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
This is **as it is taught** in a *baraita* that **Isi ben Yehuda would recount the praise of the Sages** by characterizing each of them: **Rabbi Meir, a scholar and scribe; Rabbi Yehuda, a scholar when he chooses** to be one; **Rabbi Tarfon, a pile of nuts,** as, just as when one removes a nut from a pile all the other nuts fall, so too, when a student would ask Rabbi Tarfon with regard to one matter, he would cite sources from all the disciplines of the Torah; **Rabbi Yishmael, a well-stocked store; Rabbi Akiva, a full storehouse; Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Nuri, a peddler’s basket,** in which there is a small amount of each product; **Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya, a basket of** fragrant **spices,** as everything he says is reasonable; **the mishna of Rabbi Eliezer ben Ya’akov** is **measured [*kav*] and immaculate; Rabbi Yosei, his reasoning accompanies his** statements; **Rabbi Shimon grinds much and removes little.**


###### Gittin 67a:9
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תָּנָא: מְשַׁכֵּחַ קִימְעָא, וּמַה שֶּׁמּוֹצִיא – אֵינוֹ מוֹצִיא אֶלָּא סוּבִּין. וְכֵן אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן לְתַלְמִידָיו: בָּנַיי, שְׁנוּ מִדּוֹתַי, שֶׁמִּדּוֹתַי תְּרוּמוֹת מִתְּרוּמוֹת מִידּוֹתָיו שֶׁל רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
It is **taught** in explanation: Rabbi Shimon **would forget little** of his studies, **and what he removed** from his memory, **he removed only chaff. And likewise, Rabbi Shimon said to his students: My sons, accept my** halakhic **rulings, as my rulings are the finest** rulings **of the finest rulings of Rabbi Akiva.**


###### Gittin 67a:10
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גּוּפָא – אָמַר לִשְׁנַיִם: ״אִמְרוּ לְסוֹפֵר וְיִכְתּוֹב, וְלִפְלוֹנִי וּפְלוֹנִי וְיַחְתֹּמוּ״ – אָמַר רַב הוּנָא אָמַר רַב: כָּשֵׁר, וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה זֹאת בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ With regard to **the** matter previously cited **itself,** a case where **one** who **said to two** people: **Tell a scribe and he will write** the document **and** tell **so-and-so and so-and-so and they will sign** it, **Rav Huna says** that **Rav says:** It is **valid; however, it shall not be done in Israel** *ab initio*. The husband himself must appoint the scribe and witnesses.


###### Gittin 67a:11
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ עוּלָּא לְרַב נַחְמָן, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַב נַחְמָן לְעוּלָּא: מֵאַחַר דְּכָשֵׁר, אַמַּאי לֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה זֹאת בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: חָיְישִׁינַן שֶׁמָּא תִּשְׂכּוֹר עֵדִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Ulla said to Rav Naḥman, and some say** that **Rav Naḥman** said **to Ulla: Since** it is **valid, why shall it not be done in Israel? He said to him: We are concerned lest** the woman **hire witnesses.** Since this is permitted by means of an agent, and the witnesses themselves do not know what the husband said, a woman could hire witnesses to tell a scribe to write a bill of divorce on her behalf and hire witnesses to sign it without her husband’s knowledge.


###### Gittin 67a:12
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וּמִי חָיְישִׁינַן?! וְהָתַנְיָא: עֵדִים הַחֲתוּמִין עַל שְׂדֵה מִקָּח, וְעַל גֵּט אִשָּׁה – לֹא חָשׁוּ חֲכָמִים לְדָבָר זֶה! מַעֲשֶׂה לָא עָבְדִי, דִּבּוּרָא קָאָמְרִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But are we concerned** about that possibility? **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita* (*Tosefta*, *Yevamot* 4:7): With regard to **witnesses who are signed on a field of sale and a woman’s bill of divorce, the Sages were not concerned with regard to this matter** of forgery, that perhaps these documents were written without consent of the owner and the husband, respectively. The Gemara answers: Although **they** would **not perform an action** and forge a bill of divorce, **they** would **utter a statement** and tell another to forge a document. The other person acts unknowingly, unaware of the impropriety involved.


###### Gittin 67a:13
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אָמַר לִשְׁנַיִם: ״אִמְרוּ לְסוֹפֵר וְיִכְתּוֹב, וְאַתֶּם חֲתוֹמוּ״ – רַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה״, רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְתֵעָשֶׂה״;

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara cites another *halakha*: If **one said to two** people: **Tell the scribe and he will write** the document **and you sign** it, **Rav Ḥisda says:** This bill of divorce is **valid; however, it shall not be done** *ab initio*. **Rabba bar bar Ḥana says:** It is **valid and it may be done** *ab initio*.


###### Gittin 67a:14
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רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה״, רַב שֵׁשֶׁת אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְתֵעָשֶׂה״; רַבָּה אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְלֹא תֵּעָשֶׂה״, רַב יוֹסֵף אָמַר: ״כָּשֵׁר וְתֵעָשֶׂה״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Several other *amora’im* dispute this matter. **Rav Naḥman says:** It is **valid; however, it shall not be done** *ab initio*. **Rav Sheshet says:** It is **valid and it may be done** *ab initio*. **Rabba says:** It is **valid; however, it shall not be done. Rav Yosef says:** It is **valid and it may be done.**