## Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah Chapter 3

###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:1
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:1)

**משנה:** חוֹמֶר בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ מִבַּתְּרוּמָה שֶׁמַּטְבִּילִין כֵּלִים בְּתוֹךְ כֵּלִים בַתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא בַקּוֹדֶשׁ. אֲחוֹרַיִים וְתוֹךְ וּבֵית צְבִיעָה בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. הַנּוֹשֵׂא אֶת הַמִּדְרָס נוֹשֵׂא אֶת הַתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא אֶת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. בִּגְדֵי אוֹכְלֵי תְּרוּמָה מִדְרָס לַקּוֹדֶשׁ. לֹא כְּמִדַּת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ מִדַּת הַתְּרוּמָה שֶׁבַּקּוֹדֶשׁ מַתִּיר וּמַטְבִּיל וְאַחַר כָּךְ קוֹשֵׁר וּבַתְּרוּמָה קוֹשֵׁר וְאַחַר כָּךְ מַטְבִּיל:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** *Sancta* are more stringent than heave in that one may immerse vessels inside vessels¹ to be pure for use with *sancta* must be immersed singly. For heave one may immerse vessels inside vessels if only it is possible for the water to touch each vessel fully inside and out. for heave but not for *sancta*. One considers back², inside, and finger-holes³ any impurity of any source disqualifies the vessel. for heave but not for *sancta*. He who carries “support” may carry heave but not *sancta*⁴. The garments of eaters of heave are “support” for *sancta*⁵. The action for *sancta* is different from that for heave in that for *sancta* one unties before immersing whereas for heave one may tie and then immerse⁶ this assumption may not be made..

footnotes:
¹ Vessels immersed in a miqweh
² Clay vessels by biblical standards become impure only from inside a cavity. Any impurity on the concave parts of the outside is rabbinical.
³ Holes on the outside of a pot or cup into which one puts his fingers to hold the cup are independent cavities. For heave, all these rules of rabbinic impurity are observed. For sancta
⁴ A person may carry both the shoe of a sufferer from gonorrhea and heave if both of them are placed on wooden planks (impervious to impurity) and the carrier never touches shoe and heave.
⁵ Mishnah 2:7.
⁶ For heave one may assume that the water penetrates any rope with which immersed vessels are tied. For sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:2
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:2)

**הלכה:** חוֹמֶר בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ מִבַּתְּרוּמָה כול׳. רִבִּי חִיָיה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאוֹכְלִי תְרוּמָה זְרִיזִין. וְאוֹכְלֵי קוֹדֶשׁ אֵינָן זְרִיזִין. אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה קוֹמֵי רִבִּי מָנָא. וְהָדָא הִיא מַעֲלָה. אִילּוּ דָּבָר שֶׁהוּא שָׁוֶה בָזֶה וּבָזֶה. טָמֵא בָזֶה וְטָהוֹר בָזֶה. וְדָא הִיא מַעֲלָה. אָמַר לֵיהּ. תִּיפְתָּר בִּמְזוּקָּק לַקּוֹדֶשׁ. רִבִּי לָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אִם הָיָה דָבָר טָמֵא [כָבֵד] כְּלִיטְרָא אִין מַטְבִּילִין אוֹתוֹ. אַבָּא שָׁאוּל אוֹמֵר. אַף בִּתְרוּמָה אֵין מַטְבִּילִין אוֹתוֹ אֶלָּא סַל וְגַרְגּוּתְנִי בִּלְבַד. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אַבָּא שָׁאוּל וְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן שְׁנֵיהֶם אָמְרוּ דָבָר אֶחָד. דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. הָאוֹחֵז בָּאָדָם וּבַכֵּלִים וּמַטְבִּילָן טְמֵאִים. וּכְשֶׁהוּא מַדִּיחַ אֶת יָדָיו טְהוֹרִין. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר יְרַפֵּם [עַד] שֶׁיָּבוֹא בָהֶן הַמַּיִם. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מִסְתַּבְּרָא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן יוֹדֵי לְאַבָּא שָׁאוּל. אַבָּא שָׁאוּל לֹא יוֹדֵי לְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן. רַבָּנִן דְּקַיְסָרִין בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. הֲלָכָה כְאַבָּא שָׁאוּל. וְתַנֵּי כֵן. הֲלָכָה כִדְבָרָיו. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה. מַתְנִיתָה דְּרִבִּי מֵאִיר. אֲבָל דִּבְרֵי חֲכָמִים עוֹשִׂין כֵּן אֲפִילוּ בַקּוֹדֶשׁ. שֶׁאֵין בֵּית צְבִיעָה תוֹךְ. כְּלֵי קוֹדֶשׁ כּוּלָּן תּוֹךְ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** “*Sancta* are more stringent than heave,” etc. Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, because eaters of heave are vigilant but eaters of *sancta* are not vigilant⁷ only at the time of their service in the Temple, usually two weeks in a year, or by laity on pilgrimage. The eaters of heave may be expected to follow an exact procedure at all times.. Rebbi Ḥanania said before Rebbi Mana, is that eminence? If it were a thing equal for both but impure for one and pure for the other, that would be eminence. He said to him, explain it if it is connected to *sancta*⁸, he may not immerse vessels for heave together with those for *sancta* since they follow different rules and in this case it it obvious that for one and the same person the rules for *sancta* are more stringent.. Rebbi La in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, if the impure was [heavy] a lb. one does not immerse it⁹. Abba Shaul said, also for heave one immerses only a basked or a willow-basket¹⁰. Rebbi Joḥanan said, Abba Shaul and Rebbi Simeon said the same, as we have stated there¹¹ 8:5., “if one holds a human or vessels and immerses them, they are impure, but if he had rinsed his hands in water they are pure¹² to even the smallest part of the surface area, the immersion is ineffective. According to R. Simeon it is possible to hold something in the *miqweh* without obstructing the access of the water.. Rebbi Simeon said, he should hold them loosely so the water may come into them.” Rebbi Joḥanan said, it is reasonable that Rebbi Joḥanan would agree with Abba Shaul but Abba Shaul not with Rebbi Simeon¹³. The rabbis of Caesarea in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Practice follows Abba Shaul. It was stated thus: Practice follows his words. Rebbi Jonah said, the Mishnah is Rebbi Meïr’s, but the words of the Sages are that one acts thus even for *sancta*, since finger-holes are no interior; for vessels of *sancta* all is interior¹⁴, rabbinic impurity is treated as biblical..

footnotes:
⁷ Heave as a countryside food is eaten daily by Cohanim but sancta
⁸ If a Cohen happens to eat heave in the week in which he is eating sancta
⁹ The permission for eaters of heave to immerse a smaller vessel inside a larger one holds only if the smaller vessel weighs less than one Roman pound. Cf. Babli 21a.
¹⁰ Greek γύργαθος.
¹¹ Mishnah Miqwaot
¹² If his hands block the access of the water in the miqweh
¹³ Abba Shaul holds that joint immersion is possible only if the outer vessel is permeable; hands are not permeable.
¹⁴ Finger-holes while cavities cannot be used to store anything since they have no bottom; they are irrelevant by biblical standards. But it is agreed in the Mishnah that for vessels used for sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:3)

רִבִּי יוֹנָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי חִיָיה בַּר בָּא. מַעֲשֶׂה שֶׁנִּכְנְסוּ שִׁבְעָה זְקֵינִים לְעַבֵּר אֶת הַשָּׁנָה בְּבִקִעַת רִימּוֹן. וּמִי הָיוּ. רִבִּי מֵאִיר וְרִבִּי יְהוּדָה וְרִבִּי יּוֹסֵי וְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן רִבִּי נְחֶמְיָה וְרִבִּי לִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב וְרִבִּי יוֹחָנָן הַסַּנְדְּלָר. אָמְרוּ. כַּמָּה מַעֲלוֹת בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ וּבַתְּרוּמָה. רִבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר. שְׁלֹשׁ עֶשְׂרֵה. רִבִּי יּוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר. שְׁתֵּים עֶשְׂרֵה. אָמַר רִבִּי מֵאִיר. כָּךְ שָׁמַעְתִּי מֵרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה. שְׁלֹשׁ עֶשְׂרֵה. אָמַר לוֹ רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן הַסַּנְדְּלָר. שִׁימַּשְׁתִּי אֶת רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה עוֹמַדּוֹת מַה שֶׁלֹּא שִׁימַּשְׁתּוֹ יְשִׁיבוֹת. אָמְרוּ. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן הַסַּנְדְּלָר אֲלֶכְסַנְדְּרִי לַאֲמִיתּוֹ הוּא. וְעָמְדוּ מִשָּׁם בִּנְשִׁיקָה. וְכָל מָאן דְּלָא הֲוָה לֵיהּ גּוּלָה הֲוָה חַבִרֵיהּ קְטַע פַּלְגָּא דְגוּלְתֵּיהּ וִיהַב לֵיהּ. וְלָמָּה הֲווֹן עָבְדִין כֵּן. דַּהֲוֹון כּוּלְּהוֹן דָּרְשִׁין הָדֵין פְּסוּקָא מִן שֶׁבַע שֶׁבַע אַפִּין. אָשִׁירָה נָּא לִידִידִי שִׁירַת דּוֹדִי לְכַרְמוֹ. וְקָלְסוֹן לָאֲחַרָיָיא מַה אַשְׁכַּח אַפּוֹי בְגַוֵּהּ. אָמְרִין. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֵּן יוֹחַי הֲוָה. וְלָמָּה הֲווֹן דָחֲקִין מֵעַתָּה הָדָא מִילְּתָא. דַּהֲווֹן דָּרְשִׁין מֵימַר אֱלֹהֵי מַסֵּכָה לֹא תַעֲשֶׂה לָּךְ. מַה כְתִיב בַּתְרֵיהּ. אֶת חַג הַמַּצּוֹת תִּשְׁמוֹר. אָמְרִין. כָּל מִי שֶׁסְּפִיקָה בְיָדוֹ לְעַבֵּר אֶת הַשָּׁנָה וְאֵינוֹ מְעַבְּרָהּ כְּאִילּוּ עוֹבֵד עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה. מִי אֲתֵיי מֵיזַל לוֹן אָמְרִין. אַתּוּן נַחְוִי עוֹבְדִינָן. וַהֲוָה תַמָּן חַד כֵּיף דַּשַׁיִישׁ וַהֲוָה כָּל חַד וָחַד נְסִיב חַד מַסְמֵר וּקְבַע לֵיהּ בְּגַוֵּיהּ וְהוּא נְחַת וּשְׁקַע כָּהָדֵין לַיְישָׁא. עַד כְּדוֹן מִיתְקְרִי כֵּיפָא מַסְמְרָא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Jonah in the name of Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba: It happened that seven Elders assembled in the valley of Rimmon¹⁵. Who were they? Rebbi Meïr, and Rebbi Jehudah, and Rebbi Yose, and Rebbi Simeon, and Rebbi Neḥemiah, and Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob, and Rebbi Joḥanan the Alexandrian. They said, how many distinctions have *sancta* compared to heave¹⁶? Rebbi Meïr says, thirteen. Rebbi Yose says, twelve. Rebbi Meïr said, so I heard from Rebbi Aqiba, thirteen. Rebbi Joḥanan the Alexandrian said, I served Rebbi Aqiba standing more than you served sitting¹⁷. They said, Rebbi Joḥanan the Alexandrian is a true Alexandrian. They rose kissing, and if any of them had no kaftan, his colleague cut half of his kaftan and gave it to him. And why did they do this? Because all of them were explaining the following verse, each one in seven ways: *I shall sing to my beloved*, *my beloved’s song for his vineyard*¹⁸. 5:1.. They acclaimed the last one for the versions he found in it. They said, this was Rebbi Simeon ben Yoḥai. Why were they exerting themselves in this matter¹⁹? They were explaining, saying, *molten gods you shall not make for yourself*. What is written next? *The holiday of unleavened bread you shall observe*²⁰. 34:17–18.. They said, anybody able to intercalate a year and he does not intercalate is as if he worshipped strange gods. When they were leaving they said, come and let us record our act. A rock of marble was there. Each of them took a nail and fixed it in it; it descended and sank in as in dough. Until now it is called the rock of nails.

footnotes:
¹⁵ In the South of Judea at a time when the main Jewish settlement was in the Galilee.
¹⁶ In all Mishnaiot together. The main difference seems to be whether back and finger-holes are one or two subjects.
¹⁷ He served standing as a member of his household whereas R. Meïr was a student in R. Aqiba’s classes. Therefore his contact was more intensive and extensive.
¹⁸ Is
¹⁹ Convening a meeting at a far-out place in order to proclaim an intercalary month.
²⁰ Ex


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:4
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:4)

אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. בֵּית צְבִיעָה שֶׁאָמְרוּ בֵּין בִּפְנִים בֵּין בַּחוּץ כְּדֶרֶךְ שֶׁהַנְּקִיִים תּוֹפְסִין בּוֹ. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. אֵיפְשַׁר לוֹמַר בְּנָגוּב. שֶׁאֵין הַיָּדַיִם מִיטַּמּוֹת בְּנָגוּב. אֲבָל אֵיפְשַׁר לוֹמַר כִּמְלוֹא מַשְׁקֶה. שֶׁמִּכֵּיוָן שֶׁנָּגַע בּוֹ טִימֵּהוּ. אֶלָּא כי נָן קַיָימִין [בִּמְלוּכְלָךְ] בְּמַשְׁקֶה. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי בְּנָיָיה. עָשׂוּ מַשְׁקֶה בֵּית צְבִיעָה כְּמַשְׁקֶה בֵּית מִטְבַּחַיָיא. כְּמַה דַּתְּ אֲמַר תַּמָּן. מַשְׁקֶה בֵּית מִטְבַּחַיָיא טְהוֹרִין בִּמְקוֹמָן וּטְמֵאִין בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר. [וָכָה מַשְׁקֶה בֵּית צְבִיעָה טְהוֹרִין בִּמְקוֹמָן וּטְמֵאִין בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר.] רִבִּי סִימוֹן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֵּן לֵוִי. מַשְׁקֶה בֵּית מִטְבַּחַיָיא שֶׁיָּצָא לַחוּץ נִיטְמָא. וְהָא תַנִּינָן . מַשְׁקֶה בֵּית מִטְבַּחַיָיא שֶׁיָּצְאוּ לַחוּץ בִּקְדוּשָּׁתָן הֵן. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. קִיְימָהּ רִבִּי סִימוֹן. רִבִּי חִינְנָא רִבִּי סִימוֹן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֵּן לֵוִי. בְּשֶׁיָּצְאוּ וְחָזְרוּ. נִיטְמָא מַשְׁקֶה הָעֶלְיוֹן וְהָיָה שׁוֹתֵת וְיוֹרֵד. רִבִּי בָּא וְרִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה. חַד אָמַר. בִּמְקוֹמוֹ טָהוֹר. יָרַד לְמַטָּן טָמֵא. וְחוֹרָנָה אָמַר. הוֹאִיל וְהוּא בָא מִכֹּחַ טַהֲרָה טָהוֹר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Joḥanan said, the finger-holes which they mentioned, whether inside or outside, in the manner in which cleanly people hold it²¹. Rebbi Ze`ira said, “it is impossible to say, about one which is wiped dry, for hands are not made impure by anything wiped dry²² 3:9. Since unwashed hands rabbinically are impure in the second degree, when dry they have no influence on the status of vessels. (By touching they still disqualify heave and make sacrificial food impure.). In truth it is impossible to say, if it is full of fluid, for in the moment he touched it he made it impure²³. But we must hold that [it was dirtied] by fluid²⁴.” Rebbi Joḥanan in the name of Rebbi Banaiah: They treated fluid in a finger-hole like fluid at the slaughtering place²⁵ 8:4; *Kelim* 15:6. Even though water and blood are the essential agents of biblical impurity, water used at the slaughtering place in the Temple and blood spilled there are pure, i. e., impervious to impurity and do not act to prepare food to possible impurity.. As you are saying there that fluids of the slaughtering place are pure at their proper place but impure at any other place²⁶ 17a., [so here, fluids in a finger-hole are pure at their proper place but impure at any other place.] Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: fluids of the slaughtering place which came outside {the Temple courtyards} become impure. But did we not state, fluids of the slaughtering place which came outside continue in their sanctity? Rebbi Yose said, Rebbi Simon explained it. Rebbi Ḥinena, Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi. If they came out and returned²⁷. If the upper fluid became impure and flowed down, Rebbi Abba and Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya. One said, at its place it is pure, if it flows down it is impure. The other one said, since it comes from purity it is pure²⁸.

footnotes:
²¹ Cleanly people hold the cup on the outside, so that their fingers do not touch the drink. The problem with finger-holes is that they are cavities, and as such potential subjects of biblical impurity, but since the cavities are horizontal, not vertical, they are not containers and therefore impervious to biblical impurity. Babli 22b.
²² Tosephta Kelim Baba Batra
²³ In this case it is certain that the fluid touched the hand. By rabbinic tradition any such fluid is impure in the first degree and so is the vessel containing it.
²⁴ In the case of isolated spots of fluids one cannot say that the fluids merge; the rules of the Mishnah are reasonable if applied to this situation.
²⁵ Mishnah Idiut
²⁶ Outside of the Temple they just are regular fluids subject to all their rules. Babli Pesaḥim
²⁷ If they somehow re-entered the Temple domain while pure by outside standards, they regain their immunity from the rules of impurity.
²⁸ The slaughtering place is in the place of the Cohanim, the highest in the Temple domain. The question is the definition of the domain in which the fluids are exempt from the rules of impurity. In one opinion it only is the Cohanim’s courtyard, in the other it is the entire space inside the enclosure of the Temple, including the courtyards accessible to Israel men and women.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:5
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:5)

רִבִּי אָחָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. הָדָא דַתְּ אֲמַר. כְּמַשְׁקִין שֶׁנִּיטְמוּ בְאוֹכְלִין. אֲבָל בְּמַשְׁקִין שֶׁנִּיטְמוּ בְשֶׁרֶץ טְמֵאִים הֵן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Ze`ira: About fluids which became impure from solid food. But fluids impure from crawling things are impure²⁹ 17b..

footnotes:
²⁹ This is a new remark, about the Mishnah. The impurity discussed is of rabbinic nature, such as derivative impurity of foodstuffs; but biblical impurity, such as caused by the carcasses of crawling animals, is transmitted to vessels by biblical rules. Babli Pesaḥim


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:6
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:6)

תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. כָּל הַכֵּלִים יֵשׁ לָהֶן אֲחוֹרַיִים וָתוֹךְ וְיֵשׁ לָהֶם בֵּית צְבִיעָה. רִבִּי טַרְפוֹן אוֹמֵר. לַעֲרֵיבָה גְדוֹלָה שֶׁלְעֵץ. רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר. לְכוֹסוֹת. רִבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר. לְיָדַיִם טְמֵאוֹת וּטְהוֹרוֹת. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. לֹא אָמְרוּ אֶלָּא לְיָדַיִם טְהוֹרוֹת בִּלְבָד. וּכְרִבִּי מֵאִיר. הָיוּ יָדָיו טְמֵאוֹת וַאֲחוֹרֵי הַכּוֹס טְהוֹרִין מַשְׁקֶה לַחוּץ עַל גַּבֵּי הַכּוֹס וְאָחֲזוֹ בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ. פְּשִׁיטָא שֶׁאֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַיָּד לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַכּוֹס. כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַיָּד לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַכּוֹס כָּךְ אֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַיָּד לְטַמֵּא כִכָּר בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הַדַא. מַשְׁקִין טְהוֹרִים נְתוּנִין בַּקַּרְקַע. נָגַע בָּהֶן כִּכָּר טָמֵא טִימְּאָן. לְאֵי זֶה דָבָר טִימְּאָן. לֹא לְטַמֵּא כִכָּר בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן עַל גַּבֵּי הַקַּרְקַע. הָא עַל גַּבֵּי הַכּוֹס לֹא. אֶלָּא מַשְׁקֶה [נָתוּן] עַל גַּבֵּי הַיָּד וְאָחֲזוֹ בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ אֲפִילוּ כֵן אֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַכּוֹס לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַיָּד. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הַדַא. מַשְׁקִין טְמֵאִין נְתוּנִין בַּקַּרְקַע. נָגַע בָּהֶן כִּכָּר טָהוֹר נִיטְמָא. לָא אָמַר אֶלָּא כִכָּר. הָא יָד לֹא. וּכְרִבִּי יוֹסֵה. הָיוּ יָדָיו טְהוֹרוֹת וַאֲחוֹרֵי הַכּוֹס טְמֵאִים. מַשְׁקֶה נָתוּן עַל גַּבֵּי הַיָּד וְאָחֲזוֹ בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ. פְּשִׁיטָא שֶׁאֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַכּוֹס לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַיָּד. וּכְשֵׁם שֶׁאֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַכּוֹס לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַיָּד כָּךְ אֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַכּוֹס לְטַמֵּא כִכָּר בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הַדַא. מַשְׁקִין טְמֵאִים נְתוּנִין בַּקַּרְקַע. נָגַע בָּהֶן כִּכָּר טָהוֹר נִיטְמָא. לְאֵי זֶה דָבָר נִיטְמָא. לֹא לְטַמֵּא כִכָּר בְּמָקוֹם אַחֵר. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן עַל גַּבֵּי קַרְקַע. הָא עַל גַּבֵּי הַיָּד לֹא. אֶלָּא מַשְׁקֶה נָתוּן עַל גַּבֵּי הַכּוֹס וְאָחֲזוֹ בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ. אֲפִילוּ כֵן אֵין מַשְׁקֶה מִיטַּמֵּא מִן הַיָּד לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַכּוֹס. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הַדַא. מַשְׁקִין טְמֵאִים נְתוּנִים בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ שֶׁלְכּוֹס. נָגַע בָּהֶן כּוֹס שֶׁאֲחוֹרָיו טְהוֹרִים בְּבֵית צְבִיעָתוֹ נִיטְמָא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There, we have stated³⁰25:7.: “All vessels have back and interior, and they have finger-holes. Rebbi Tarphon says, concerning a large wooden trough³¹. Rebbi Aqiba says, concerning cups³². Rebbi Meïr says, concerning impure and pure hands. Rebbi Yose says, they referred only to pure hands³³.” Following Rebbi Meïr, if his hands were impure and the back of the cup pure, fluid outside on the cup and he touches it in his finger-hole, it is obvious that the fluid does not become impure from his hands to make the cup impure³⁴. Just as the fluid does not become impure from his hands to make the cup impure, will the fluid not become impure from his hands to make a loaf impure at another place³⁵? Let us hear from the following. Pure fluids are on the ground. If an impure loaf touched them, it made them impure³⁶. In which respect did it make impure? Not to make a loaf impure at another place? Because they are on the ground; therefore not on a cup³⁷. But maybe fluid is on the hand and he holds at finger-holes, even so does the fluid become impure from the cup to make the hand impure³⁸? Let us hear from the following. Impure fluids are on the ground. If a pure loaf touched them, it became impure. It only says, a loaf; therefore not a hand³⁹. And following Rebbi Yose, if his hands were pure but the back of the cup impure, there is fluid on his hand, and he holds in the finger-holes, it is obvious that the fluid does not become impure from the cup to make the hand impure⁴⁰. Just as the fluid does not become impure from the cup to make the hand impure, will the fluid not become impure from his hands to make a loaf impure at another place⁴¹? Let us hear from the following. Impure fluids are on the ground. If pure loaf touched them, it became impure. In which respect did it become impure? Not to make a loaf impure at another place? Because they are on the ground; therefore not on a hand⁴². But maybe fluid is on the cup and he holds at finger-holes, even so does the fluid become impure from the hand to make the cup impure? Let us hear from the following. Impure fluids are in the finger-holes. If a cup whose back is pure touched its finger-holes it became impure⁴³.

footnotes:
³⁰ Mishnah Kelim
³¹ All vessels become impure, possibly by different rules, inside and out. But finger-holes apply only to heavy wooden troughs used to prepare dough.
³² The rules of finger-holes also apply to earthenware cups. The rules essentially state that finger-holes, being horizontal cavities, are rabbinic transmitters of impurity and therefore subject to rabbinic disregards of rabbinic rules.
³³ Following R. Meïr, if his hands were impure and the back of the cup pure, handling the cup by finger-holes keeps the back of the cup pure. If his hands were pure and the back of the cup impure, handling the cup by finger-holes keeps the hands pure. Following R. Yose only the second case holds.
³⁴ Since the finger-hole is a separate entity, for R. Meïr impurity of the back of the vessel is a separate affair not influenced by anything in the finger-hole, even if some of the fluid is in the finger-hole.
³⁵ Since it was stated that the fluid does not become impure in the finger-hole, is this a statement about the fluid or about the finger-hole? In the second case the fluid will be impure in the moment it flows out of the finger-hole.
³⁶ Since any impure fluid is impure in the first degree, even if made impure by secondary impurity.
³⁷ The formulation excludes finger-holes; the statement was about the fluid.
³⁸ If the fluid is on the hand outside the finger-hole, if the back of the cup is impure and it touches at the outside of the finger-hole, will the hand become impure?
³⁹ According to R. Meïr there cannot be connection for impurity between fingers in finger-holes and any other part of the cup.
⁴⁰ For R. Yose, the exemption of finger-holes only works to protect the fingers from impurity on the back of the cup.
⁴¹ Same question as Note 35.
⁴² Same answer, in cases relevant for R. Yose, as Note 39.
⁴³ Contrary to the opinion of R. Meïr, R. Yose holds that impurity can be transmitted through finger-holes.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:7
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:1:7)

הַנּוֹשֵׂא אֶת הַמִּדְרָס הוּא נוֹשֵׂא אֶת הַתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא אֶת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. רִבִּי בָּא בְשֵׁם רַב יְהוּדָה. מִפְּנֵי מַעֲשֶׂה שֶׁאִירַע. מַעֲשֶׂה בְאֶחָד שֶׁנִּיקְבָּה חָבִיתוֹ וּפָקְקָה בְסַנְדָּלוֹ. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה רִבִּי יָסָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי לָעְזָר. עָבַר וְנָשָׂא טָהוֹר. וְאַתְיָא כַהִיא דְאָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. יֵשׁ [מֵהֶן] שֶׁאָמְרוּ לֹא יִשָּׂא. עָבַר וְנָשָׂא טָמֵא. [וְיֵשׁ מֵהֶן שֶׁאָמְרוּ.] לֹא יִשָּׂא. אִם עָבַר וְנָשָׂא טָהוֹר. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה קוֹמֵי רִבִּי מָנָא. לֵית הָדָא אָמְרָה שֶׁלֹּא עָשׂוֹ גוּפוֹ כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. [אִין תֵּימַר. עָשׂוֹ גוּפוֹ כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ.] אֲפִילוּ עָבַר וְנָשָׂא יִהְיֶה טָמֵא. אָמַר לֵיהּ. תִּיפְתָּר בִּמְזוקָּק לַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“He who carries “support” may carry heave but not *sancta*⁴. Rebbi Abba in the name of Rav Jehudah, because of a happening. It happened to a person that his amphora sprung a leak and he plugged it with his sandal⁴⁴. Rebbi Ze`ira, Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: If he transgressed and carried it, it is pure. This follows what Rebbi Eleazar said: some say, he shall not carry; if he transgressed and carried it is impure. [But some say,] he shall not carry; if he transgressed and carried it is pure⁴⁵. Rebbi Ze`ira said in front of Rebbi Mana⁴⁶ does this not imply that they made his body not like a sufferer from gonorrhea⁴⁷? [If you would say, they made his body not like a sufferer from gonorrhea,] then if he transgressed and carried he would be impure. He answered him, explain it if it is connected to *sancta*¹, he may not immerse vessels for heave together with those for *sancta* since they follow different rules and in this case it it obvious that for one and the same person the rules for *sancta* are more stringent.⁴⁸.

footnotes:
⁴ A person may carry both the shoe of a sufferer from gonorrhea and heave if both of them are placed on wooden planks (impervious to impurity) and the carrier never touches shoe and heave.
⁴⁴ Which was impure by “load” and made the contents of the amphora biblically impure. Babli 22b (end).
⁴⁵ Since these statements refer to Temple practice, not to biblical laws, they are not subject to discussion. Babli 23a.
⁴⁶ R. Mana I.
⁴⁷ Therefore one may answer a question raised earlier.
¹ If a Cohen happens to eat heave in the week in which he is eating sancta
⁴⁸ This implies nothing in the general case.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:1:8
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שֶׁלֹּא כְּמִידַּת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ מִידַּת הַתְּרוּמָה. שֶׁבַּקּוֹדֶשׁ מַתִּיר אֶת הָחוּטִים וּמְנַגֵּב אֶת הַנְּקָבִים וְאַחַר כָּךְ קוֹשֵׁר וּבַתְּרוּמָה קוֹשֵׁר. וְאַחַר כָּךְ מַטְבִּיל. אוֹכְלִי תַרוּמָה זְרִיזִין הֵן. וְהֵן חָצִין אוֹתָהּ. אוֹכְלֵי הַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֵינָן זְרִיזִין וְאֵינָן חָצִים אוֹתָהּ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“The action for *sancta* is different from that for heave in that for *sancta* one unties the strings and wipes the holes and then ties whereas for heave one may tie and then immerse.⁴⁹” Eaters of heave are vigilant and they hollow⁵⁰ it but eaters of *sancta* are not vigilant⁷ only at the time of their service in the Temple, usually two weeks in a year, or by laity on pilgrimage. The eaters of heave may be expected to follow an exact procedure at all times. and do not hollow.

footnotes:
⁴⁹ Tosephta 3:6.
⁵⁰ Before any use they meticulously clean the interior of any vessel used for heave.
⁷ Heave as a countryside food is eaten daily by Cohanim but sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:1
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**משנה:** כֵּלִים הַנִּגְמָרִים בְּטַהֲרָה צְרִיכִין טְבִילָה לַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא לַתְּרוּמָה. הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף מַה שֶּׁבְּתוֹכוֹ לַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא לַתְּרוּמָה. הָרְבִיעִי בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ פָּסוּל וְהַשְּׁלִישִׁי בַּתְּרוּמָה. וּבַתְּרוּמָה נִיטְמֵאת אַחַת מִיָּדָיו חֲבֶרְתָּהּ טְהוֹרָה. וּבַקּוֹדֶשׁ מַטְבִּיל שְׁתֵּיהֶן. וְהַיָּד מְטַמָּא אֶת חֲבֶרְתָּהּ בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא בַּתְּרוּמָה:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** Implements manufactured in purity need immersion for *sancta* but not for heave. A vessel combines its contents for *sancta* but not for heave⁵¹ for which there exists a fourth degree of impurity. Therefore morsels of *sancta* in the same vessel as a second degree impure piece of food are disqualified even if they are all physically separated.. For *sancta* the fourth degree is disqualified and the third for heave⁵². For heave, if one of his hands became impure the other remains pure, but for *sancta* he immerses both. One hand makes the other impure for *sancta* but not for heave⁵³.

footnotes:
⁵¹ A vessel contains disjoint morsels of food. If one piece becomes impure, this in general has no influence of the other pieces since derivative impurity of food cannot make the vessel impure and even rabbinically the other pieces are two touchings distant from the impure piece. The only exception are sancta
⁵² Chapter 2, Note 162.
⁵³ Since the impurity of hands is rabbinic of the second degree, the prior argument applies.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:2
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**הלכה:** תַּנֵּי. מַעֲשֶׂה בְאִשָּׁה אַחַת שֶׁהָיְתָה אוֹרֶגֶת בֶּגֶד אֶחָד בְּטַהֲרָה וּבָאת אֶצֶל רִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל לְהִישָּׁאֵל לוֹ. אָמְרָה לוֹ. יוֹדַעַת אָנִי שֶׁלֹּא נִיטְמָא. אֶלָּא שֶׁלֹּא נָתַתִּי דַּעְתִּי לְשׁוֹמְרוֹ. מִתּוֹךְ שֶׁהוּא בוֹדְקָהּ אָמְרָה לוֹ. נִידָּה בָאָת וּמָתְחָה עִימִּי בַּחֶבֶל. בְּאוֹתָהּ הַשָּׁעָה אָמַר רִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל. גְּדוּלִים הֵם דִּבְרֵי חֲכָמִים שֶׁאָמְרוּ. כֵּלִים הַנִּגְמָרִים בְּטַהֲרָה צְרִיכִין טְבִילָה לַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא לַתְּרוּמָה. שׁוּב מַעֲשֶׂה בְאִשָּׁה אַחַת שֶׁהָיְתָה אוֹרֶגֶת מִטְפַּחַת אַחַת בְּטַהֲרָה וּבָאת אֶצֶל רִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל לְהִישָּׁאֵל לוֹ. אָמְרָה לוֹ. יוֹדַעַת אָנִי שֶׁלֹּא נִיטְמָא. אֶלָּא שֶׁלֹּא נָתַתִּי דַּעְתִּי לְשׁוֹמְרוֹ. מִתּוֹךְ שֶׁהוּא בוֹדְקָהּ אָמְרָה לוֹ. נִפְסְקָה נֵימָא אַחַת וּקְשַׁרְתִּיהָ בְפִי. בְּאוֹתָהּ הַשָּׁעָה אָמַר רִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל. גְּדוֹלִים הֵן דִּבְרֵי חֲכָמִים שֶׁאָמְרוּ. כֵּלִים הַנִּגְמָרִין בְּטַהֲרָה צְרִיכִין טְבִילָה בַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא לַתְּרוּמָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** It was stated⁵⁴ 1:2–3; Babli 20a.: “It happened that a woman was weaving cloth in purity and came to Rebbi Ismael to ask him about it. She told him, I am sure that it did not become impure, only I did not concentrate to watch it. While he was interrogating her, she said to him, a menstruating woman came and helped me stretching the rope⁵⁵. At that moment Rebbi Ismael said, great are the words of the Sages who said, ‘implements manufactured in purity need immersion for *sancta* but not for heave.’ Another happening: a woman was weaving a shawl in purity and came to Rebbi Ismael to ask him about it. She told him, I am sure that it did not become impure, only I did not concentrate to watch it. While he was interrogating him, she said to him, a thread broke and I tied it with my mouth⁵⁶. At that moment Rebbi Ismael said, great are the words of the Sages who said, ‘implements manufactured in purity need immersion for *sancta* but not for heave.’ ”

footnotes:
⁵⁴ Tosephta Kelim Bava Batra
⁵⁵ If the menstruating woman alone had stretched the warp, it would certainly be impure because moved by a person whose impurity is from her own body. Since it was a joint effort, it is possible that the warp, and therefore the cloth, was impure, but it cannot be determined whether it is. In order to be sure it is pure it has to be immersed.
⁵⁶ Chapter 2, Notes 231–232.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:3
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הַחוֹתֵךְ מִשְּׁפוֹפֶרֶת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. חוֹתְכָהּ וּמַטְבִּילָהּ טְעוּן טְבִילָה. נִיחָא חוֹתְכָהּ. מַטְבִּילָהּ. וְיַכְרִכֶינָּה (בְּשִׂיט) [בְּסִיב] וְיַטְבִּילָהּ. אָמַר רִבִּי אִילָא. תִּיפְתָּר שֶׁחֲתַכָהּ עַל מְנָת לָהַטְבִּילָהּ. אָמַר רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי. עַד כָּאן בְּקוֹדְשֵׁי מִקְדָּשׁ הַמְקוּדָּשִׁים. מִיכָּן וְהֵילָךְ בְּחוּלִין שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל טַהֲרַת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
⁵⁶ If one cuts a tube for *sancta*, he who cuts it and he who immerses it need immersion. One understands he who cuts. He who immerses? Could he not bind it with a (*sit*) [fiber] and immerse it? But explain it that he cut it in order to immerse it. Rebbi Joshua ben Levi said, up to here about sanctified Temple *sancta*. From here on, about profane food prepared in the purity of sacrifices⁵⁷ and therefore are inoperative after the destruction of the Temple. The later distinctions between *sancta* and heave also apply to profane food prepared in the purity of *sancta*..

footnotes:
⁵⁶ Chapter 2, Notes 231–232.
⁵⁷ Mishnah 1 and the first statement of Mishnah 2 apply only to actual Temple sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:4
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אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מֵעֵידוּתוֹ שֶׁלְרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה הִיא. דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. הוֹסִיף רַבִּי עֲקִיבָה הַסּוֹלֶת וְהַקְּטוֹרֶת הַלְּבוֹנָה וְהַגֶּחָלִים שֶׁנָּגַע טְבוּל יוֹם בְּמִקְצָתָן. שֶׁפָּסַל אֶת כּוּלָּן. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר. יוֹדְעִין הָיוּ שֶׁכְּלֵי שָׁרֵת מְחַבְּרִים. וּמַה בָּא לְהָעִיד. עַל שְׁיֵרֵי מְנָחוֹת שֶׁיְּהוּ מְחַבְּרִין אֶת עַצְמָן. רִבִּי יוֹסֵה בֵּירִבִּי זְמִינָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מִפְּנִי מַה אָמְרוּ. שְׁיֵרֵי מְנָחוֹת מְחַבְּרִין אֶת עַצְמָן. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁנִּזְקְקוּ לְכֵילְיָין. רִבִּי אָחָא רִבִּי אִילָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יָסָא. יוֹדְעִין הָיוּ שֶׁכְּלֵי שָׁרֵת מְחַבְּרִין. מַה בָּא לְהָעִיד. עַל הַסּוֹלֶת וְעַל הַקְּטוֹרֶת וְעַל הַלְּבוֹנָה וְעַל הַגֶּחָלִים. נִיחָא סוֹלֶת וּקְטוֹרֶת וּלְבוֹנָה. גֶּחָלִים. אָמַר רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר כַּהֲנָא. תִּיפְתָּר בִּגְחָלִים שֶׁלְיוֹם הַכִּיפּוּרִים שֶׁבְּמַה שֶׁהוּא חוֹתֶה הוּא מַכְנִיס. אֲבָל בִּגְחָלִים שֶׁבְּכָל יוֹם [לֹא]. כַּהִיא דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. נִתְפַּזֵּר מִמֶּנּוּ בְּקַב גֶּחָלִים הָיָה מְכַבְּדָן לָאַמָּה. וּבַשַּׁבָּת כוֹפִין עָלָיו פְסַכְתֵּר. אָמַר רִבִּי מַתַּנְיָה. וְכִי סוֹלֶת וּקְטוֹרֶת וּלְבוֹנָה וְגֶּחָלִים יֵשׁ לָהֶן שִׁיעוּר אֶצֶל זֶה. לֹא מִפְּנֵי שֶׁנִּזְקְקוּ לְכֵילְיָין. וְהָכָא מִפְּנֵי שֶׁנִּזְקְקוּ לְכֵילְיָין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Joḥanan said, it is from Rebbi Aqiba’s testimony⁵⁷ and therefore are inoperative after the destruction of the Temple. The later distinctions between *sancta* and heave also apply to profane food prepared in the purity of *sancta*.. As we have stated there⁵⁷ and therefore are inoperative after the destruction of the Temple. The later distinctions between *sancta* and heave also apply to profane food prepared in the purity of *sancta*., “Rebbi Aqiba added that fine flour, and incense, frankincense, and coals, part of which were touched by a *Tevul Yom* are all disqualified⁵⁸. Therefore Mishnah 2 must have been formulated posterior to R. Aqiba..” Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, they knew that vessels of Servive do combine. About what comes he to testify? About the leftovers of flour-offerings that they do combine together. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Zamina in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Why did they say, leftovers of flour-offerings do combine together? Because they need their vessel⁵⁹. Rebbi Aḥa, Rebbi Ila in the name of Rebbi Yasa: they knew that vessels of Service do combine. About what comes he to testify? About fine flour, and incense, and frankincense, and coals⁶⁰. One understands fine flour, and incense, and frankincense. Coals⁶¹? Rebbi Abun bar Cahana said, explain it about coals on the Day of Atonement which he has to carry inside in the vessel which he used to scoop up⁶². 16:12). These are the only coals which become disqualified if outside a dedicated Vessel of Service.. But [not]⁶³ about every day’s coals. As we have stated there⁶⁴ 5:5., “If a *qab* of coals were dispersed, one sweeps them into the water canal, but on the Sabbath one covers it with a wine-cooler⁶⁵. Rebbi Mattania said, do fine flour, and incense, frankincense, and coals, need a minimum volume in this respect? Not because they have to be in their vessel? Here also because they have to be in their vessel⁶⁶ applies to all coals removed from the altar. The rule is that the burned-out charcoal remainders have to be removed in dedicated fire-pans. Even if the later are spilled and swiped into the water canal crossing the inner courtyard, they were removed in a dedicated vessel, and in this case the vessel combines all its contents. The same holds for a large private flour offering, not subject to the amounts prescribed for public offerings, and which might be presented in two or more vessels. In that case, each vessel separately transmits disqualification from a part of its contents to all of it..

footnotes:
⁵⁷ Mishnah 1 and the first statement of Mishnah 2 apply only to actual Temple sancta
⁵⁷ Mishnah 1 and the first statement of Mishnah 2 apply only to actual Temple sancta
⁵⁸ This statement is implied by the statement of our Mishnah that vessels do combine for sancta
⁵⁹ Since the leftovers of flour offerings have to be eaten by priests, they have to be taken from the vessel in which they were presented to the altar. Since the vessel is not needed after presentation and burning of a fistful on the altar, one might think that then the vessel acts like a profane vessel and does not imply disqualification of the entire content composed of disjoint pieces if one piece became disqualified. As long as the vessel is actually used it transmits disqualification. Babli 23b.
⁶⁰ These are not foods and not subject to the rules of impurity of foodstuffs up to the fourth degree.
⁶¹ They should be impervious to impurity.
⁶² The coals which the High Priest on the Day of Atonement has to scoop up with a fire-pan and carry into the holiest of holies with the incense (Lev
⁶³ Corrector’s addition, making explicit the text’s meaning.
⁶⁴ Mishnah Tamid
⁶⁵ Greek ψυκτήρ, a big metal vessel.
⁶⁶ He holds that the Mishnah in Idiut


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:5
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:2:5)

רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה בָעֵי. קוֹמֶץ מָהוּ שֶׁיִיקָרֵב בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים. הָתִיב רִבִּי חָנִין. וְהָא תַנִּינָן. הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף. אִין תֵּימַר שֶׁקּוֹמֶץ קָרֵב בִּשְׁנֵי כֵלִים. וְלֵיי דָא מִילָּה תַנִּינָן. הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף. אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר דְּרוֹמִיָיא. לֹא כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּירִבִּי זְמִינָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מִפְּנֵי מַה אָמְרוּ. שְׁיֵּרֵי מְנָחוֹת מְחַבְּרִין אֶת עַצְמָן. לֹא מִפְּנֵי שֶׁנִּזְקְקוּ לְכֵילְיָין. וְהָכָא שֶׁנִּזְקְקוּ לְכֵלְיָין. אָמַר רִבִּי מַתַּנְיָיה. וְכִי סוֹלֶת וּקְטוֹרֶת וּלְבוֹנָה וּגְחָלִים לֹא בְכַמָּה כֵלִים הֵן קְרֵיבִין. וְאַתְּ אָמַר. הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף. וְהָכָא הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף. כַּהֲנָא שָׁאַל לְרַבָּנִין דְּתַמָּן. מִנְחָה חֲלוּקָה (בְבִסָּה) [בְגַסָּה]. נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ. אָמְרוּן לֵיהּ. נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ. וְקָפְצָה טוּמְאָה. אָמְרוּן לֵיהּ. וְקָפְצָה טוּמְאָה. אֲפִילוּ אֲחֶרֶת בֵּנְתַּיִים. אָמְרוּן לֵיהּ. אֲפִילוּ אֲחֶרֶת בֵּנְתַּיִים. קוֹמֶץ מִזּוֹ לַזּוֹ. אָמְרוּן לֵיהּ. שְׁמוּעָה לֹא שְׁמַעְנוּ. מִשְׁנָה שָׁנִינוּ. כַּהִיא דְתַנִּינָן לְתַמָּן. שְׁתֵּי מְנָחוֹת שֶׁלֹּא נִקְמָצוּ וְנִתְעָרְבוּ זוֹ בְזוֹ. אִם יָכוֹל לִקְמוֹץ מִזּוֹ בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ וּמִזּוֹ בִּפְנֵי עַצְמָהּ כְּשֵׁירוֹת. וְאִם לָאו פְּסוּלוֹת. [וְ]אִין שְׁיֵרֶיהָ שֶׁל זוֹ מַפְסִיקִין לְזוֹ. אָתָא רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר אָחָא רִבִּי יָסָא בֵשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. קוֹמֶץ מִזּוֹ עַל זוֹ. נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ נִיטְמֵאת זוֹ. הָאֶמְצָעִית לֹא נִיטְמֵאת. לֹא כֵן תַּנֵּי. כַּף אַחַת. שֶׁהִיא עוֹשָׂה מַה שֶׁבְּתוֹכָהּ אַחַת. אָמַר רִבִּי חִינְנָה. אֵין הַכֶּלִי מְצָרֵף אֶלָּא דָּבָר שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר לוֹ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya asked: may a fistful be offered from two vessels⁶⁷? Rebbi Ḥanin objected, did we not state, “the vessel combines”? If you would say that a fistful can be offered from two vessels, for which purpose did we state “the vessel combines”? Rebbi Eleazar the Southerner said, did not Rebbi Yose bar Zamina say in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, why did they say, leftovers of flour-offerings do combine together? Because they need their vessel⁵⁹. Here also because they have to be in their vessel⁶⁸. Rebbi Mattaniah said, are not fine flour, and incense, and frankincense, and coals offered in many vessels? Nevertheless you are saying, “the vessel combines”; and here “the vessel combines”⁶⁹. Cahana asked the rabbis there, a flour-offering split in the mixing bowl⁷⁰ 7a,24a/b). The corrector’s change is erroneous., if one became impure did the other become impure⁷¹? They said to him, if one became impure the other became impure. Did impurity jump⁷²? They said to him, impurity did jump. Even if another {vessel} was in between? They said to him, even if another {vessel} was in between. Taking a fistful from one on the other⁷³? They said to him, we did not hear any tradition, we studied a Mishnah, as what we did state there⁷⁴ 3:3., “if two flour offerings from which no fistfuls were taken were combined together, if he is able to take a fistful from one separately and from the other separately⁷⁵ they are qualified, otherwise disqualified.” Do not the remainders of one interrupt between one and the other⁷⁶? There came Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa, Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: If a fistful was taken from one for the other⁷⁷, if one became impure he other became impure. Anything in-between did not become impure. Was it not stated, “*one cup*⁷⁷? Which makes its contents one.⁷⁸. 49, Babli 23b. The reference is to the offerings of the heads of tribes for the inauguration of the Tabernacle (*Num*.7:14, 20, 26, 32, 38, 44, 50, 56, 62, 68, 74, 80). It would have been sufficient to state that each of them brought “*a* cup full of incense”. The emphasis 12 times on “*one* cup full of incense” is explained by that the cup makes the offering an indivisible entity.” Rebbi Ḥinena said, a vessel combines only what is tied to it⁷⁹.

footnotes:
⁶⁷ The regular discipline of flour offerings is that flour and oil are mixed in one sanctified vessel, then the priest takes a fistful, deposits it into a second vessel which he carries to the altar and empties into the flames. Since in any case a second vessel is involved, may the offering be brought from the start in two vessels, and the fistful taken from one and deposited into a third permits the contents of both original vessels to be consumed by the priests?
⁵⁹ Since the leftovers of flour offerings have to be eaten by priests, they have to be taken from the vessel in which they were presented to the altar. Since the vessel is not needed after presentation and burning of a fistful on the altar, one might think that then the vessel acts like a profane vessel and does not imply disqualification of the entire content composed of disjoint pieces if one piece became disqualified. As long as the vessel is actually used it transmits disqualification. Babli 23b.
⁶⁸ If the offering from the start is in two separate vessels, where is the one vessel which combines the contents such that if part becomes disqualified everything is disqualified? As before the answer is that since no offering may be presented without being in a vessel, that vessel is a necessity of the service and the multitude of original vessels is irrelevant.
⁶⁹ The previous argument is extended from flour offering to incense, which at least for the shewbreads always is in multiple containers, and the other offerings.
⁷⁰ The scribe’s text is the correct one, confirmed by the Babli (Menaḥot
⁷¹ While an argument may be made that if part of a flour-offering becomes disqualified the whole becomes disqualified, does the argument extend to actual impurity (or order 4), so that the contents of a vessel can cause impurity or disqualification to anything it comes in contact with, without ever having been touched by anything impure?
⁷² From one vessel to another with which it is not in contact.
⁷³ Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya’s question.
⁷⁴ Mishnah Menaḥot
⁷⁵ If the materials of the two offerings are recognizable as distinct.
⁷⁶ One has to say that the statement that the vessel combines is a biblical one; therefore on the one hand the vessel transmits disqualification from one piece to a disjoint one, and on the other hand permits to take a fistful from the offering although certainly parts of the offering are mixed with another, which without the combining action of the vessel would disqualify.
⁷⁷ Of a flour-offering presented in two or more vessels.
⁷⁷ Of a flour-offering presented in two or more vessels.
⁷⁸ Sifry Num
⁷⁹ He denies that impurity may be transferred by action at a distance.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:6
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:2:6)

רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ בָּעֵי. צְרִיד שֶׁלְמְנָחוֹת מָהוּ שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂה מִינְיָין. הָתִיב רִבִּי לָעְזָר. וְהָכְתִיב מִכָּל הָאוֹכֶל אֲשֶׁר יֵאָכֵל אֲשֶׁר יָבֹא עָלָיו מַיִם יִטְמָא. אֶת שֶׁטּוּמְאָתוֹ עַל יְדֵי מַיִם עוֹשֶׂה מִינְיָין. אֶת שֶׁאֵין טוּמְאָתוֹ עַל יְדֵי מַיִם אֵינוֹ עוֹשֶׂה מִינְיָין. הָתִיב רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. הֶרֵי נִבְלַת עוֹף הַטָּהוֹר הֲרֵי הִיא מְטַמָּא טוּמְאַת אוֹכְלִים בְּלֹא הֶכְשֵׁר וּבְלֹא טוּמְאָה. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁסּוֹפָהּ לְטַמְּאוֹת טוּמְאָה חֲמוּרָה. מַאי כְדוֹן. מִכָּל הָאוֹכֶל אֲשֶׁר יֵאָכֵל. אֶת שֶׁטּוּמְאָתוֹ מִשֵּׁם אוֹכֶל עוֹשֶׂה מִינְיָין. וְאֶת שֶׁאֵין טוּמְאָתוֹ מִשֵּׁם אוֹכֶל אֵינוֹ עוֹשֶׂה מִינְיָין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish asked: Does a dry piece of flour-offering start a count⁸⁰ 2:3, Note 141. The question now is whether flour never in contact with a fluid, which becomes disqualified by being in a combining vessel, also becomes impure to count derivative impurity of degrees 1,2,3,4 or not. Babli *Ḥulin* 36a.? Rebbi Eleazar objected: Is it not written⁸¹. 11:34., *of all foodstuff which is edible on which comes water is susceptible to impurity*. Any whose impurity is caused by water starts a count, nothing whose impurity is not caused by water starts a count. Rebbi Yose objected: Is there not a carcass of a kosher bird which causes impurity of foodstuff without preparation and without impurity, because it ends up causing severe impurity⁸²? What about this? *Of all foodstuff which is edible*, any whose impurity is caused by the category of edibles⁸³ starts a count, nothing whose impurity is not caused by edibles the category of starts a count.

footnotes:
⁸⁰ A flour offering in general needs to be mixed with oil. As noted later, food becomes susceptible to impurity only by contact with water or one of the fluids compared to water in a biblical verse, including olive oil. This contact is called “preparation for impurity”, cf. Demay
⁸¹ Lev
⁸² The meat of a kosher bird which was not slaughtered once it is in the mouth makes not only the eater but also his garments causes of original biblical impurity. The garments cause impurity to anything potentially susceptible to impurity, without “preparation.”
⁸³ Even if the particular item is not kosher to eat.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:7
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:2:7)

רִבִּי יוֹנָתָן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל שְׁלִישִׁי בַּתְּרוּמָה נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בַּתְּרוּמָה. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר רַב יִצְחָק בָּעֵי. מַה. רִבִּי כְרִבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר. דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רִאשׁוֹן רִאשׁוֹן. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל שֵׁינִי שֵׁינִי. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל שְׁלִישִׁי שְׁלִישִׁי. דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל הִיא. כְּדֵי שֶׁיְּהֵא בָדֵל מִן הַתְּרוּמָה. וְדִכְוָותָהּ. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל שֵׁינִי בְמַעֲשֵׂר נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בְּמַעֲשֵׂר. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הָדָא. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹסְרִין בַּמַּעֲשֵׂר. וְלָא שְׁמִיעַ [לָהוּ] דְאָמַר רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. מָהוּ וַחֲכָמִים אוֹסְרִין בַּמַּעֲשֵׂר. נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בְּמַעֲשֵׂר. וְדִכְוָותָהּ. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הָדָא. דְּאָמַר רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי בָּא בַּר מָמָל. עָשׂו אוֹתוֹ כְּאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ. הָדָא אָמְרָה. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. עַד כְּדוֹן בְּקָדְשֵׁי מִקְדָּשׁ הַמְקוּדָּשִׁין. וַאֲפִילוּ בְּחוּלִין שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל טַהֲרַת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הָדָא. [דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן.] הַשּׁוֹחֵט בְּהֵמָה חַיָיה וְעוֹף וְלֹא יָצָא מֵהֶן דָּם. כְּשֵׁירִין וְנֶאֱכָלִים בְּיָדַיִם מְסוֹאָבוֹת. אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא הוּכְשְׁרוּ בְדָם. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר הוּכְשְׁרוּ בַשְּׁחִיטָה. רִבִּי לָעְזָר בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה. מַתְנִיתָה בְּחוּלִין שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל גַּב הַקּוֹדֶשׁ כְּרִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ. רִבִּי זְעוּרָא רִבִּי יָסָא רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן רִבִּי יַנַּיי בְשֵׁם רִבִּי. הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל שְׁלִישִׁי בַּתְּרוּמָה נִפְסָל גּוּפוֹ מִלּוֹכַל בַּתְּרוּמָה. וְלֹא מַתְנִיתָה הִיא שֶׁהַשְּׁלִישִׁי שֵׁינִי לַקּוֹדֶשׁ. מַתְנִיתָה בְּקָדְשֵׁי מִקְדָּשׁ הַמְקוּדָּשִׁין. דְּרַבָּא אֲתֲא מֵימַר לָךְ. וַאֲפִילוּ בְּחוּלִין שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל גַּב הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. אָמַר רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה קוֹמֵי רִבִּי זָעוּרָה. מַתְנִיתָה אָמְרָה כֵן. כִּכְּרוֹת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ בְּתוֹךְ גּוּמוֹתֵיהֶם הַמַּיִם מְקוּדָּשִׁין. בְּאַשׁ לָךְ דַּאֲתָא מֵימוֹר לָךְ. עָשָׂה מַשְׁקֶה פִיו כְּמַשְׁקֶה קוֹדֶשׁ. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. כְּמַה דַּתְּ אֲמַר תַּמָּן. עָשָׂה אֶת הַטָּהוֹר לַחַטָּאת כְּמֵי חַטָּאת וּכְאֶפֶר חַטָּאת. וְהָכָא עַשָׂה מַשְׁקֶה פִיו כְּמַשְׁקֶה קוֹדֶשׁ. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה רִבִּי יָסָא רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן רִבִּי יַנַּיי. וְלָא יָדְעִין אִין מַטֵּי בָהּ בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי. מַתְנִיתָה מִינָהּ קִיּוּמָה וּמִינָהּ תַּבָרָה. מִינָהּ קִיּוּמָה. שֶׁהַשְּׁלִישִׁי שֵׁינִי לַקּוֹדֶשׁ וְאֵין שֵׁינִי לַתְּרוּמָה. שֶׁנַּעֲשֶׂה לְטַהֲרַת הַתְּרוּמָה. אֲבָל אִם נַעֲשֶׂה לְטַהֲרַת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ נַעֲשֶׂה גוּפוֹ שֵׁינִי אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. מִינָהּ תַּבָרָה. שֶׁהַשְּׁלִישִׁי שֵׁינִי לַקּוֹדֶשׁ וְלֹא שֵׁינִי לַתְּרוּמָה. שֶׁנַּעֲשִׂית לְטַהֲרַת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. אֲבָל אִם נַעֲשֶׂה לְטַהֲרַת הַתְּרוּמָה נַעֲשֶׂה גוּפוֹ שֵׁינִי אֶצֶל הַתְּרוּמָה וְכָל שֶׁכֵּן אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Jonathan in the name of Rebbi: If somebody eats food which is third degree impure for heave, his body is disqualified from eating heave⁸⁴ 35a. Since the third degree of impurity disqualifies but does not induce impurity for heave, the person is permitted in principle to touch heave but not to eat it.. Rebbi Samuel bar Rav Isaac asked, how? Rebbi follows Rebbi Eliezer? As we have stated there⁸⁵ 2:2., “He who eats food impure in the first degree is impure in the first degree. He who eats food impure in the second degree is impure in the second degree. He who eats food impure in the third degree is impure in the third degree.⁸⁶. Since in general we are following R. Joshua against R. Eliezer, it would be astonishing to find an anonymous Mishnah following R. Eliezer against R. Joshua. Cf. Babli *Ḥulin* 33b.” It is everybody’s opinion, so he should stay away from heave⁸⁷. And similarly, if somebody eats food which is second degree impure for tithe, is his body disqualified from eating tithe? Let us hear from the following⁸⁸ 11:5.: “But the Sages forbid for tithe.⁸⁹” They had not heard that Rebbi Samuel said in the name of Rebbi Ze`ira, what means “but the Sages forbid for tithe”? His body is disqualified from eating tithe⁹⁰. And similarly, if somebody eats food which is fourth degree impure for *sancta*, is his body disqualified from eating *sancta*? Let us hear from the following, as Rebbi Jeremiah said in the name of Rebbi Abba bar Mamal, they made him like one eating fourth degree impure food for *sancta*⁹¹ is forbidden any sacral act.. This implies, if somebody eats food which is fourth degree impure for *sancta*, his body is disqualified from eating *sancta*. So far in Temple *sancta* which were sanctified. Or also for profane food prepared in the standards of *sancta*? Let us hear from the following, [as we stated there]⁹² 2:5.: “If somebody slaughters domestic animals, wild animals, or birds, and no blood came out from them, they are qualified and may be eaten with unclean hands, since they were not prepared by blood. Rebbi Simeon says, they were prepared by slaughter⁹³.” Rebbi Eleazar in the name of Rebbi Hoshaia: The Mishnah is about profane food prepared in the standards of *sancta* following Rebbi Joshua⁸⁶. Since in general we are following R. Joshua against R. Eliezer, it would be astonishing to find an anonymous Mishnah following R. Eliezer against R. Joshua. Cf. Babli *Ḥulin* 33b.. Rebbi Ze`ira, Rebbi Yasa, Rebbi Joḥanan, Rebbi Yannai in the name of Rebbi: If somebody eats food which is third degree impure for heave, his body is disqualified from eating heave. Is that not a Mishnah that third degree impurity is second degree impurity for *sancta*⁸⁶. Since in general we are following R. Joshua against R. Eliezer, it would be astonishing to find an anonymous Mishnah following R. Eliezer against R. Joshua. Cf. Babli *Ḥulin* 33b.? The Mishnah is about Temple *sancta* which were sanctified. He⁹⁴. tells you in addition, even for profane food prepared in the standards of *sancta*. Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya said before Rebbi Ze`ira: The Mishnah says so, “loaves of *sancta* bread; the water in their cavities is sanctified.⁹⁵ 1:9. Bread baked to accompany *sancta* is prepared for impurity both by the water used in making the dough and by the fact that it is used in the Temple. If the bread is leavened, as required for thanksgiving offerings (*Lev*. 7:13), and some moisture remains in bubbles inside the loaves, it is considered as if outside. If the loaf is touched by disqualified (4th order impure) food, the moisture becomes impure in the first degree and the loaf actually impure; while totally dry food is not impacted by the touch of disqualified food.” Does it displease you that it comes to tell you that he makes fluid by your pronouncement like sanctified fluid⁹⁶. “Sanctified fluid” is fluid actually used in the Temple.? Rebbi Ze`ira said, as you are saying there⁹⁷ Chapter 10., one made one pure for the ashes of the Red Cow equal to the water for the ashes of the Red Cow and to the ashes of the Red Cow, and here one made fluid by your pronouncement like sanctified fluid. Rebbi Ze`ira, Rebbi Yasa, Rebbi Joḥanan, Rebbi Yannai, and it is unknown whether this is in the name of Rebbi: There is a Mishnah⁸⁵ 2:2. which is both confirmation and disproof. From it confirmation: “For third degree impurity is second degree impurity for *sancta*, but not second degree impurity for heave, if it was prepared by the standards of heave.” But if it was prepared in the standards of *sancta*, his body is second degree impure for *sancta*⁹⁸; his statement requires equal treatment for actual *sancta*, possible only in the Temple, and food prepared in the standards of *sancta*, possible everywhere in the Holy Land at all times (subject to the availability of ashes of the Red Cow.). From it disproof: For third degree impurity is second degree impurity for *sancta*, but not second degree impurity for heave, if it was prepared by the standards of *sancta*⁹⁹. But if it was prepared in the standards of heave, his body is second degree impure for heave and *a fortiori* for *sancta*¹⁰⁰..

footnotes:
⁸⁴ Babli Ḥulin
⁸⁵ Mishnah Taharot
⁸⁶ R. Eliezer holds that a person eating impure food subject to higher orders of derivative impurity becomes impure in the same degree as his food, whereas R. Joshua holds that impure food of the first two degrees make the body impure in the second degree, and that third degree impurity (disqualification) for heave equals second degree (impurity) for sancta
⁸⁷ While in theory he could touch heave without bad effects, since touching could lead to eating we tell him to stay away from heave in all respects. This is not a biblical rule.
⁸⁸ Mishnah Parah
⁸⁹ The Mishnah states that anybody needing immersion in water for rabbinic impurity may without immersion eat profane food and Second Tithe according to R. Meïr, but the majority forbids him Second Tithe.
⁹⁰ There should not have been any question since the problem already was solved in a Mishnah known to all.
⁹¹ A quote from Halakhah 3, Note 136. The reference is to a deep mourner who is obligated to see to the burial of a close relative and is forbidden any sacral act. As stated here, it implies that the person eating disqualified sancta
⁹² Mishnah Ḥulin
⁹³ For the majority, slaughtered meat is prepared for impurity (Note 80) either by the blood spilled in the act of slaughter or by cutting the animal into pieces, or by later contact with water. Since meat eaten otherwise than raw must be kashered in water, the Mishnah implies that meat not prepared by blood may be eaten raw with unwashed hands and remain untouched by impurity.
⁸⁶ R. Eliezer holds that a person eating impure food subject to higher orders of derivative impurity becomes impure in the same degree as his food, whereas R. Joshua holds that impure food of the first two degrees make the body impure in the second degree, and that third degree impurity (disqualification) for heave equals second degree (impurity) for sancta
⁸⁶ R. Eliezer holds that a person eating impure food subject to higher orders of derivative impurity becomes impure in the same degree as his food, whereas R. Joshua holds that impure food of the first two degrees make the body impure in the second degree, and that third degree impurity (disqualification) for heave equals second degree (impurity) for sancta
⁹⁴ Rebbi in the baraita
⁹⁵ Mishnah Taharot
⁹⁶ “Fluid by his pronouncement” is profane food intentionally prepared by the standards of sancta
⁹⁷ In Mishnah Parah
⁸⁵ Mishnah Taharot
⁹⁸ The Mishnah text is R. Joshua’s. Since he formulates it for profane food prepared in the standards of heave, it is clear that he excludes profane food prepared in the standards of sancta
⁹⁹ As stated in the Mishnah there.
¹⁰⁰ But nothing implies that this also is valid for profane food prepared in the standards of sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:8
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:2:8)

תַּנֵּי רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. מְנַיִין לָרְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ שֶׁהוּא פָסוּל. וְדִין הוּא. מַה אִם מְחוסָּר כִּיפּוּרִים שֶׁאֵינוֹ פוֹסֵל בִּתְרוּמָה הֶרֵי פוֹסֵל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. רִבִיעִי שֶׁהוּא פוֹסֵל בִּתְרוּמָה אֵינוֹ דִין שֶׁיִּפְסוֹל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. הֶרֵי לָמַדְנוּ לַשְּׁלִישִׁי מִן הַכָּתוּב. וְלִרְבִיעִי (מִקּוֹל) [מִקַּל] וָחוֹמֶר. הָתִיב רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. הֲרֵי הָאוֹכֶל הַבָּא מַחְמַת טְבוּל יוֹם יוֹכִיחַ. הֲרֵי הוּא פוֹסֵל בִּתְרוּמָה וְאֵינוֹ פוֹסֵל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אַתְיָא דְרִבִּי יוֹסֵה כְשִׁיטַּת רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה רַבּוֹ. כְּמָה דְרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אָמַר תַּמָּן. יִטְמָא יִטְמָא דְּבַר תּוֹרָה. כֵּן רִבִּי יוֹסֵה אָמַר הָכָא. יִטְמָא יִטְמָא דְּבַר תּוֹרָה. רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹסֵה בֶּן חֲנִינָה. לֵית רִבִּי יוֹסֵי צָרִיךְ לְהָדֵין (קוֹל) [קַל] וָחוֹמֶר. קְרָיֵי דְרַשׁ רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. וְהַבָּשָׂר אֲשֶׁר יִגַּע. זֶה שֵׁינִי שֶׁנָּגַע בָּרִאשׁוֹן. בְּכָל טָמֵא. זֶה שְׁלִישִׁי שֶׁנָּגַע בַּשֵּׁינֵי. לֹא יֵאָכֵל. סוֹף טָמֵא לֹא יֵאָכֵל. עַד כְּדוֹן בְּאוֹכְלִין שֶׁנִּיטְמוּ מֵאֲוִיר כְּלֵי חֶרֶס שֶׁנִּיטְמָא בְּשֶׁרֶץ. אוֹכְלִין עַצְמָן שֶׁנִּיטְמוּ בְּשֶׁרֶץ מְנַיִין. וְדִין הוּא. וּמַה אִם הַכֵּלִים שֶׁאֵינָן מִיטַּמִּין מֵאֲוִיר כְּלֵי חֶרֶס שֶׁנִּיטְמָא בְּשֶׁרֶץ הֶרֵי הֵן מִיטַּמִּין כְּשֶׁרֶץ לְטַמֵּא אוֹכְלִין. אוֹכְלִין עַצְמָן שֶׁנִּיטְמוּ בְּשֶׁרֶץ אֵינוֹ דִין שֶׁיִּיטַמּוּ כְּשֶׁרֵץ לְטַמֵּא אוֹכְלִין. עַד כְּדוֹן כִּרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה. כְּרִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל. וְהַבָּשָׂר אֲשֶׁר יִגַּע בְּכָל טָמֵא. זֶה רִאשׁוֹן שֶׁנָּגַע בְּטָמֵא. לֹא יֵאָכֵל. לְרַבּוֹת אֶת הַשֵּׁינִי. שְׁלִישִׁי בַּתְּרוּמָה מְנַיִין. וְדִין הוּא. מָה אִם טְבוּל יוֹם שֶׁאֵינוֹ פוֹסֶל בְּחוּלִין הֲרֵי הוּא פוֹסֵל בַּתְּרוּמָה. שֵׁינִי שֶׁהוּא פוֹסֶל בְּחוּלִין אֵינוֹ דִין שֶׁיִּפְסוֹל בַּתְּרוּמָה. רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ מְנַיִין. וְדִין הוּא. מָה אִם מְחוסָּר כִּיפּוּרִים שֶׁאֵינוֹ פוֹסֵל בִּתְרוּמָה הֲרֵי הוּא פוֹסֵל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. (רְבִיעִי) [שְׁלִישִׁי] שֶׁהוּא פוֹסֵל בִּתְרוּמָה אֵינוֹ דִין שֶׁיִּפְסוֹל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. הֶרֵי לָמַדְנוּ לָרִאשׁוֹן וּלְשֵׁינִי מִן הַכָּתוּב וְלִשְׁלִישִׁי מִן הַדִּין וְלִרְבִיעִי (מִקּוֹל) [מִקַּל] וָחוֹמֶר. דָּנִין לוֹ דִין מִן הַדִּין. שְׁיְּהֵא הַכֹּל מְשׁוּעְבָּד לַהֲלָכָה שְׁיְּהֵא הַשְּׁלִישִׁי פוֹסֵל בַּתְּרוּמָה וְהָרְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
¹⁰¹ 5:2 (Notes 93–106, **ס**). In this paragraph, the corrector’s changes are copied from *Soṭah* and have to be accepted.“Rebbi Yose stated, from where that the fourth degree is disqualified in sanctified food? It is an argument. Since one who lacks expiation¹⁰², 14:32; for the persons healed from genital discharges 15:14–15, 29–30 for the woman after childbirth 12:6–8). After immersion in water, the person is totally pure (after the following sundown) at any place other than the Sanctuary. is not disqualified for heave¹⁰³ but disqualified for sanctified food, it is only logical that third degree¹⁰⁴. [impurity] which is disabled for heave should disqualify for sanctified food. That means, we learned third degree from a verse¹⁰⁵ 5:3 following R. Aqiba. and fourth degree from an argument *de minore ad majus*.” Rebbi Joḥanan objected: Food that was touched by a *Tevul Yom*¹⁰⁶ is a counter-example, because he disqualifies in the case of heave but does not disqualify in the case of sanctified food¹⁰⁷ 4(8). It is proved that *sacra* are not in all respects more restrictive than heave. It is remarkable that the Babli does not argue against the thesis of R. Yose since it clearly violates the rule “it is enough if inference drawn from an argument be equal to the premise ” (Babli *Bava qamma* 25a). According to this rule, a passive impurity in the minor cannot become an active one in the major. The Yerushalmi knows no such rule; it needs the counter-example of R. Joḥanan. The difference between the Talmudim is that for the Yerushalmi, *de minore ad majus* is a rhetorical device but for the Babli it is part of a meta-logical system (cf. the author’s *Logical Problems in Jewish Tradition*, in: Confrontations with Judaism, Ph. Longworth, ed., London 1966 pp. 171–196.). Rebbi Ḥananiah¹⁰⁸: R. Ḥiyya, the only possible reading since R. Ḥananiah was a teacher, not a student, of R. Joḥanan. in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Rebbi Yose argues the method of his teacher Rebbi Aqiba. Just as Rebbi Aqiba says *impure*, impure by the words of the Torah, so Rebbi Yose says *it will be impure*, it makes impure by the words of the Torah. Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina: Rebbi Yose does not need that argument *de minore ad majus*. Rebbi Yose explains the verse¹⁰⁹. 7:19; *Sifra Ṣaw Parasha* 9. A similar interpretation is given as an additional *baraita* in the Babli 24a, *Pesaḥim* 18b/19a, *Sotah* 29b.: *Any meat which would touch*, that is second degree food because it touched primary impurity; *anything impure*, that is third degree food because it touched second degree impurity; s*hall not be eaten*, the endstage of impurity may not be eaten. So far about solid food that became impure in the air space of a clay vessel which had become impure by a reptile¹¹⁰. 11:29–30.. What about solid food that became impure directly from a reptile? Is that not an argument? Since vessels, which cannot become impure in the air space of a clay vessel that became impure by a reptile, become impure by contact with a reptile¹¹¹ 1:7, R. Ismael is quoted to the effect that *Lev*. 11:33 also applies to vessels. It may be a veiled reference to the argument presented here.) to defile solid food, is it not logical that solid food itself which became impure by a reptile should become impure by contact with a reptile to defile solid food. So far, following Rebbi Aqiba. Following Rebbi Ismael? Rebbi Ismael stated: ¹¹². 7:19.*Any meat which would touch anything impure*, that is first degree food which touched any impurity, *shall not be eaten*, to add a second degree of impurity. The third degree from where? It is an argument. Since a *tevul yom* who is not disqualified for profane food disqualifies heave, it is only logical that a person secondarily impure, who disables profane food should disable heave. The fourth degree for sacrifices from where? It is an argument. Since one who lacks expiation who does not disable heave disables sanctified food, it is only logical that third degree [impurity] which disqualifies heave should disable sanctified food. That means, we learned first and second degrees from a verse, the third from an argument and the fourth from an argument *de minore ad majus*. Can one pile argument on argument¹¹³ 8:1, Note 19. A detailed table of legal and illegal combinations, derived from Babli *Zevaḥim* Chapter 5, appears in the author’s paper *Über ein bemerkenswertes logisches System aus der Antike*, Methodos 1951, pp. 150–164.? Everything is subject to practice, i. e., that third degree disables heave and fourth degree disables sacrifices¹¹⁴.

footnotes:
¹⁰¹ This is copied from Soṭah
¹⁰² If a person is healed whose body was an original source of impurity, he needs immersion in water to be pure and also a ceremony of expiation to be admitted to the Sanctuary and sacrifices (for the person afflicted with skin disease, Lev
¹⁰³ Tosephta 3:17.
¹⁰⁴ In the text here “fourth order,” not corrected by the corrector. The translated text here is from Soṭah
¹⁰⁵ Mishnah Sotah
¹⁰⁶ Cf. Chapter 1, Note 168.
¹⁰⁷ Tosephta 3:16; Sifra Emor Pereq
¹⁰⁸ In Sotah
¹⁰⁹ Lev
¹¹⁰ A dead reptile from the kinds enumerated in Lev
¹¹¹ Vessels can become impure only from original impurity (a “father” or “grand-father” of impurity, never from derivative impurity.) There is no verse which would indicate otherwise (but in Pesaḥim
¹¹² Lev
¹¹³ It is a principle accepted in both Talmudim that at least for any rules of sacrifices and connected matters, most hermeneutical rules cannot be used one after the other; cf. Yebamot
¹¹⁴ Tosephta 3:8. “Practice” here corresponds to “Practice of Moses from Mount Sinai” in the Babli, generally accepted practice whose roots can no longer be ascertained. The status of such practice is more than rabbinic and less than biblical.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:9
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וּבַתְּרוּמָה אִם נִיטְמֵאת אַחַת מִיָּדָיו חָבֵירְתָהּ טְהוֹרָה. לְטַמֵּא אֶת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּירִבִּי יוּדָה אוֹמֵר. לִפְסוֹל בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. מַה. רִבִּי כְרִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ. דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. כֹּל הַפּוֹסֵל אֶת הַתְּרוּמָה מְטַמֵּא אֶת הַיָּדַיִם לִהְיוֹת שְׁנִיּוֹת. וְהַיָּד מְטַמָּא אֶת חֲבֶירְתָהּ. דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ. וּדְרִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ רָבָא מִן דְּרִבִּי. מַה דְאָמַר רִבִּי בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. וּמַה דְאָמַר רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בַּתְּרוּמָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“For heave, if one of his hands became impure the other remains pure.” “To make *sancta* impure, the words of Rebbi. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Jehudah says, to disqualify *sancta*.¹¹⁵ impure …” The Tosephta implies that if one hand is impure, in preparation of *sancta* the other is impure in the second degree for Rebbi, in the third for R. Yose ben R. Jehudah.” How? Following Rebbi Joshua? As we have stated there¹¹⁶ 3:2., “anything which disqualifies heave makes hands impure in the second degree, and one hand makes the other one impure, the words of Rebbi Joshua.” And Rebbi Joshua says more than Rebbi, since what Rebbi said refers to *sancta*, but Rebbi Joshua refers to heave¹¹⁷ (disqualified by third degree impurity) cannot be R. Joshua’s..

footnotes:
¹¹⁵ Tosephta 3:10; Babli 24a. The text of the Tosephta is: A person who immerses one hand and prepares food in purity, any food prepared until he immerses the other hand is impure since one hand makes the other impure to make sancta
¹¹⁶ Mishnah Yadaim
¹¹⁷ Therefore the Mishnah here which treats heave (disqualified by second degree impurity) more leniently than sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:10
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:2:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:2:10)

רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר. לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא חֲבֶירְתָהּ. הָא אֲחֶרֶת לֹא. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. אֲפִילוּ אֲחֶרֶת. רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה רִבִּי אִמִּי בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אֲפִילוּ כִּכָּר. אָמְרִין. חָזַר בֵּיהּ רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מִן הָדָא. מָה אָמַר כֹּה עַד לֹא יַחְזוֹר בֵּיהּ. לֹא אָמַר אֶלָּא לְטַמֵּא כִּכָּר. עַל שֵׁם כֹּל הַפּוֹסֵל אֶת הַתְּרוּמָה מְטַמֵּא אֶת הַיָּדַיִם לִהְיוֹת שְׁנִיּוֹת. הָא לְטַמֵּא כִּכָּר כָּל עַמָּא מוֹדֵיי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְטַמֵּא. עַל שֵׁם שֶׁאֵין שֵׁינִי עוֹשֶׂה שֵׁינִי.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, they only stated “the other”, not a stranger’s¹¹⁸ both hands have to be washed since otherwise one impure hand causes the other hand also to be impure. The problem is whether the other hand, which was not exposed to impurity, is impure in the second degree as impure hand, or of the third as derivative of second degree impurity. R. Simeon ben Laqish holds that it is impure in the third degree, R. Joḥanan that it is second.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, even a stranger’s. Rebbi Jeremiah, Rebbi Immi in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, even a loaf. They said, Rebbi Joḥanan retracted this; when he said so it was before he changed his mind. He only said to make a loaf impure, because of “anything which disqualifies heave makes hands impure in the second degree.” Therefore to make a loaf impure everybody agrees that it does not make impure¹¹⁹ but cannot possibly make it impure., since “no second degree creates second degree.¹¹⁶ 3:2.”

footnotes:
¹¹⁸ This refers to the statement that for sancta
¹¹⁹ For anything but the other hand of the person one follows the rule that induced impurity is one degree more than the inducing one. Therefore the second hand may disqualify a loaf of sancta
¹¹⁶ Mishnah Yadaim


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:3:1
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**משנה:** אוֹכְלִין אוֹכְלִים נְגוּבִים בְּיָדַיִם מְסוֹאָבוֹת בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. הָאוֹנֵן וְהַמְּחוּסַּר כִּפּוּרִים צְרִיכִין טְבִילָה לַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲבָל לֹא לַתְּרוּמָה:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** One eats dry food¹²⁰ with dirty hands¹²¹. with heave but not with *sancta*. The deep mourner¹²² and one who lacks expiation need immersion for *sancta* but not for heave¹²³ but permitted heave. The immersion before their disability was removed is not counted..

footnotes:
¹²⁰ Which somehow never was wetted and therefore is impervious to impurity. But all food eaten with sacrifices is subject to the rules of impurity.
¹²¹ Which are second degree impure and therefore have no influence on profane food, only on heave and sancta
¹²² Who somehow is not impure in the impurity of the dead.
¹²³ They are forbidden sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:3:2
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**הלכה:** אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה בֶּן אַנְטִיגֳנֹס. וְכִי יֵשׁ אוֹכְלִין נְגוּבִין אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. תּוֹחֵף אֶת הַחֲרָרָה בְּשִׁפּוּד וְאוֹכֵל עִמָּהּ כְּזַיִת בָּשָׂר בִּתְרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא בַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** “Rebbi Ḥananiah ben Antigonos said, do dry foods exist for *sancta*¹²⁴? He impales the flat piece¹²⁵ on the spit¹²⁶ and eats with it an olive-sized bit of meat of heave but not of *sancta*.¹²⁷”

footnotes:
¹²⁴ Anything used with sacrificial food is susceptible to impurity; its use makes it susceptible.
¹²⁵ Usually this word denotes a flat pitta bread. But here this cannot be the intended meaning since any kind of bread is made from dough containing water and therefore automatically susceptible to impurity. The reference is to a piece of food which never was in contact with any external fluid.
¹²⁶ Which as a flat wooden implement is impervious to impurity.
¹²⁷ Tosephta 3:12; Babli 24b.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:3:3
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תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. הָיָה אוֹכֵל דְּבֵילָה בְּיָדַיִם מְסוֹאָבוֹת. הִכְנִיס יָדוֹ לְתוֹךְ פִּיו לִיטּוֹל אֶת הַצְּרוֹר. חִזְקִיָּה אָמַר. לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא דְבֵילָה שֶׁהוּא רוֹצֶה בַּמַּשְׁקִין שֶׁעַל אֶצְבָּעוֹ. הָא שְׁאָר כָּל הַדְּבָרִים לֹא. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. לֹא שַׁנְיָיא. הִיא דְבֵילָה הִיא שְׁאָר כָּל הַדְּבָרִים. מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא עַל חִזְקִיָּה מַגַּע טְמֵא מֵת שֶׁהָיוּ אוֹכְלִין וּמַשְׁקִין לְתוֹךְ פִּיו. הִכְנִיס רֹאשׁוֹ לַאֲוִיר הַתַּנּוּר טָהוֹר וְטִימְּאֵהוּ. וְטָהוֹר שֶׁהָיוּ אוֹכְלִין וּמַשְׁקִין לְתוֹךְ פִּיו. הִכְנִיס רֹאשׁוֹ לַאֲוִיר הַתַּנּוּר טָמֵא וְנִיטְמָא. נִיחָא מַשְׁקִין טְמֵאִין. אוֹכְלִין מֵאֵיכָן הוּכְשְׁרוּ. לֹא מִמַּשְׁקֵה פִיו. תִּיפְתָּר אוֹ בִדְבֵילָה שְׁמֵינָה אוֹ בְאוֹכְלִין שֶׁהוּכְשְׁרוּ עַד שֶׁהֵן מִבַּחוּץ. מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא עַל רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. אוֹכְלִין אוּכְלִין נְגוּבִין בְּיָדַיִם מְסוֹאָבוֹת בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲבָל לֹא בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. פָּתַר לָהּ בַּזּוֹרֵק. אִם בַּזּוֹרֵק אֲפִילוּ בַקּוֹדֶשׁ. שֶׁמָּא יִשְׁכַּח וְיִגַּע. אִם שֶׁמָּא יִשְׁכַּח וְיִגַּע אֲפִילוּ בַתְּרוּמָה יְהֵא אָסוּר. מַאי כְדוֹן. אוֹכְלִי תְרוּמָה זְרִיזִין הֵן וִאֵינוֹ שׁוֹכֵחַ. אוֹכְלֵי הַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֵינָן זְרִיזִין וְהוּא שֹׁכֵח.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There we have stated¹²⁸ 8:10.: “If he ate a fig cake with dirty hands, put his hand into his mouth to remove a pebble, …¹²⁹” Ḥizqiah said, one stated this only for a fig cake where he desires the fluid remaining on his finger, therefore not for anything else. Rebbi Joḥanan said, there is no difference, equally a fig cake where he desires the fluid remaining on his finger or anything other. The Mishnah¹²⁸ 8:10. disagrees with Ḥizqiah: “Touching by a person impure in the impurity of the dead who had food or drink in his mouth: if he put his head inside a pure stove he made it impure. If a pure person with food or drink in his mouth put his head inside the impure stove he became impure.¹³⁰” One understands drinks. From where was the food susceptible to impurity? Not from his saliva¹³¹! Explain it either from a moist fig cake or as food which already outside were susceptible to impurity. The Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Joḥanan: “One eats dry food¹²⁰ with dirty hands¹²¹. with heave but not with *sancta*.” Explain it if he throws¹³². If he throws then even for *sancta*. Maybe he will forget and touch. If maybe he will forget and touch then it should be forbidden also for heave. Eaters of heave are vigilant and he will not forget but eaters of *sancta* are not vigilant⁷ only at the time of their service in the Temple, usually two weeks in a year, or by laity on pilgrimage. The eaters of heave may be expected to follow an exact procedure at all times. and he forgets.

footnotes:
¹²⁸ Mishnah Kelim
¹²⁹ R. Meïr declares the fig cake impure but R. Jehudah pure. They disagree about the status of the saliva of a pure person. As noted later, saliva in the mouth does not prepare for impurity; otherwise a person never could eat in purity. R. Jehudah holds that saliva in the mouth is immune from impurity; for him the problem does not exist. R. Meïr holds that saliva is a fluid subject to the rules of impurity since the spittle of a person sick with gonorrhea is a source of biblical impurity. Since unwashed hands are impure of second degree, the saliva in his mouth makes them impure in the first degree. If then he again touches the fig cake it will be impure in the second degree.
¹²⁸ Mishnah Kelim
¹³⁰ The stove is made of clay. Biblically clay vessels become impure if and only if impurity is placed into its concavity with or without touching. The person himself would make the stove impure only if most of his body were inside but since the food in his head is moist and impure, putting his head inside makes the stove biblically impure. If therefore a pure person with food in his mouth puts his head inside the stove, the food becomes impure and makes the person impure.
¹³¹ Since as explained in Note 129, saliva in a pure person’s body is pure and does not prepare for impurity.
¹²⁰ Which somehow never was wetted and therefore is impervious to impurity. But all food eaten with sacrifices is subject to the rules of impurity.
¹²¹ Which are second degree impure and therefore have no influence on profane food, only on heave and sancta
¹³² He throws the food into his mouth so it is swallowed immediately without being wetted.
⁷ Heave as a countryside food is eaten daily by Cohanim but sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:3:4
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תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. אוֹנֵן נוֹגֵעַ וְאֵינוֹ מַקְרִיב וְאֵינוֹ חוֹלֵק לוֹכַל בָּעֶרֶב. תַּמָּן אַתְּ אָמַר. מוֹתָּר לִיגַּע. וָכָא אַתְּ אָמַר. אָסוּר לִיגַּע. אָמַר רִבִּי יַנַּיי. כָּאן בְּשֶׁהִסִּיעַ דַּעְתּוֹ וְכָאן בְּשֶׁלֹּא הִסִּיעַ דַּעְתּוֹ. רִבִּי יוֹסֵה בָעֵי. אִם בְּשֶׁהִסִּיעַ דַּעְתּוֹ אֲפִילוּ בַתְּרוּמַה יְהֵא אָסוּר. מַאי כְדוֹן. כַּהִיא דְּאָמַר רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי בָּא בַּר מָמָל. עָשׂוּ אוֹתוֹ כְּאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ. הָדָא אָמְרָה הָאוֹכֵל אוֹכֶל רְבִיעִי בַקּוֹדֶשׁ אָסוּר לוֹכַל וּמוּתָּר לִיגַּע. וָכָא אָסוּר לוֹכַל וּמוּתָּר לִיגַּע. תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. שֶׁבֵּית שַׁמַּי אוֹמְרִים. צְרִיכָה טְבִילָה בָּאַחֲרוֹנָה. וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים. אֵינָהּ צְרִיכָה טְבִילָה בָּאֲחֲרוֹנָה. מָה אֲנָן קַיָימִין. אִם לַאֲכִילַת תְּרוּמָה קַשְׁיָא עַל דְּבֵית שַׁמַּי. וְלֹא טְבוּלַת יוֹם הִיא. וְאֵין טְבוּל יוֹם מַעֲרִיב שִׁמְשׁוֹ וְאוֹכֵל. אִם לַאֲכִילַת קֳדָשִׁים קַשְׁיָא דְּבֵית הִלֵּל. וְלָא מְחוּסָּר כַּפָּרָה הִיא. וְאֵין מְחוּסָּר כַּפָּרָה טָעוּן טְבִילָה אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. אִין תֵּימַר. בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲנָן קַיָימִין תַּמָּן. וְהָדָא דְתַנִּינָן הָכָא רֵישָׁא דִבְרֵי הַכֹּל וְסֵיפָא בַּמַּחְלוֹקֶת. אִין תֵּימַר. בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲנָן קַיָימִין הָכָא. וְהָדָא הִיא דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן רֵישָׁא דִבְרֵי הַכֹּל וְסֵיפָה בַּמַּחְלוֹקֶת. אָמַר רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אֶבוּדָמִי קוֹמֵי רִבִּי מָנָא. בַּתְּרוּמָה אֲנָן קַיָימִין. תַּמָּן טַעֲמוֹן דְּבֵית שַׁמַּי מִפְּנֵי הַהֶדְיוֹטוֹת. שֶׁלֹּא יְהוּ אוֹמְרִים. רָאִינוּ אִשָּׁה שׁוֹפַעַת דָּם וְאוֹכֶלֶת בַּתְּרוּמָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There we have stated¹³³ 12:1.: “The deep mourner touches but may not sacrifice nor take his part of meat in the evening.¹³⁴.. 21:1–4). In case he is prevented from participating in the burial (usually by being far from the place of burial) and is pure, he still is forbidden before the burial to participate in any religious rite. If he is in Jerusalem and pure, at the time of distribution of the sacrificial meat he is barred from participating even if a short time later he will be able to resume all his functions.” There you are saying, he may touch. But here you are saying, he is forbidden to touch. Rebbi Yannai said, here when he put his mind to other things, but there if he did not put his mind to other things¹³⁵ permits the deep mourner to touch *sancta*, but the Mishnah here requires him to immerse himself, which implies that after immersion he still is prohibited touching *sancta* until sundown. This glaring contradiction can be explained in that the Mishnah here prescribes immersion for a person not directly involved in the Temple service. Babli *Zevaḥim* 99a.. Rebbi Yose asked, if he put his mind to other things should he not also be forbidden heave? How is this? As Rebbi Jeremiah said in the name of Rebbi Abba bar Mamal: They treated him like one who ate food which was of fourth degree for *sancta*¹³⁶ but not for heave. “He” is the deep mourner not impure in the impurity of the dead.. This implies that one who ate food which was of fourth degree for *sancta* is forbidden to eat but permitted to touch. And here he is forbidden to eat but permitted to touch. There we have stated¹³⁷ 10:7.: “For the House of Shammai are saying, she needs immersion at the end, but the House of Hillel are saying, she does not need immersion at the end.¹³⁸. 12:2–6) declares her impure in the impurity of menstruation for 7 days after the birth of a son and 14 days after the birth of a daughter. At the end of this period she has to immerse herself. For the following 33 days after the birth of a son and 66 after that of a girl she is impervious to impurity from genital bleeding. She still is barred from the Temple and *sancta* until she has brought her sacrifice of expiation. The Houses of Shammai and Hillel disagree on whether after the expiration of her days of purity (i. e., when she again becomes susceptible to impurity) she needs another immersion.” Where do we hold? If about eating heave it is difficult for the House of Shammai; if about eating *sancta* it is difficult for the House of Hillel¹³⁹ but not for heave.. Does she not lack expiation? Do people lacking expiation not need immersion for *sancta*¹⁴⁰ but not for heave.? If you are saying that there one holds about heave, regarding what we have stated here the first part is everybody’s opinion and the second part in dispute. If you are saying that here one holds about heave, regarding what we have stated there the first part is everybody’s opinion and the second part in dispute¹⁴¹ 10:6.. Rebbi Samuel bar Eudaimon said before Rebbi Mana, we are dealing with heave. There the reason of the House of Shammai is because of the unlearned¹⁴², that they should not say, we saw a woman losing blood and eating heave¹⁴³.

footnotes:
¹³³ Mishnah Zevaḥim
¹³⁴ Usually the deep mourner Cohen, the mourner before the burial, will be impure in the impurity of the dead since it is obligatory for a Cohen to defile himself for the burial of a close relative (Lev
¹³⁵ The Mishnah in Zevaḥim
¹³⁶ Which is disqualified for sancta
¹³⁷ Mishnah Niddah
¹³⁸ The Mishnah explains the rules of the purity of women after childbirth. The verse (Lev
¹³⁹ In the Mishnah it is stated as unanimous opinion that the deep mourner needs immersion for sancta
¹⁴⁰ Since the verse requires a sacrifice of expiation at the end of her period of purity it should be clear that she is lacking expiation and following the Mishnah here needs immersion for sancta
¹⁴¹ In the first case, the statement here about immersion is the House of Hillel’s. In the second case, the reference to the first part is Mishnah Niddah
¹⁴² Greek ’ιδιώτης.
¹⁴³ There is no reason in the rules of impurity preventing a woman with genital bleeding to eat heave in the days of her purity. They forbid it only so people should not draw the wrong inferences, not knowing that she is impervious to this kind of impurity.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:1
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**משנה:** חוֹמֶר בַּתְּרוּמָה שֶׁבִּיהוּדָה נֶאֱמָנִים עַל טַהֲרַת יַיִן וְשֶׁמֶן כָּל יְמוֹת הַשָּׁנָה וּבִשְׁעַת הַגִּתּוֹת וְהַבַּדִּים אַף עַל הַתְּרוּמָה. עָבְרוּ הַגִּתּוֹת וְהַבַּדִּים וְהֵבִיאוּ לוֹ חָבִית שֶׁל יַיִן שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה לֹא יְקַבְּלֶנָּה מִמֶּנּוּ אֲבָל מַנִּיחָהּ לְגַת הַבָּאָה. אִם אָמַר לוֹ הִפְרַשְׁתִּי לְתוֹכָהּ רְבִיעִית קוֹדֶשׁ נֶאֱמָן. כַּדֵּי יַיִן וְכַדֵּי שֶׁמֶן הַמְדוּמָּעוֹת נֶאֱמָנִין עֲלֵיהֶן בִּשְׁעַת הַגִּתּוֹת וְהַבַּדִּים קוֹדֶם לַגַּת שִׁבְעִים יוֹם:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** One is more restrictive for heave in that in Judea one is trustworthy about purity of wine and oil the entire year¹⁴⁴ but about heave {only} at the time of grape and olive harvest¹⁴⁵. If the time of grape and olive harvest is passed and he¹⁴⁶ brought him¹⁴⁷ a barrel of heave wine he should not accept it but let it stay until the next grape harvest. Only if he said, I put into it a *quartarius* of *sanctum* he is trustworthy¹⁴⁸. One is trustworthy about wine and oil barrels used for heave¹⁴⁹. 22:28 is called דמע . at the time of grape and olive harvest and sixty days preceding the grape harvest.

footnotes:
¹⁴⁴ This is a rule for Temple times since, as explained in the Halakhah, wine and oil for use in the Temple had to be brought from Judea. Therefore all farmers in Judea were careful in preserving the purity of oil and wine.
¹⁴⁵ Since every farmer wanted to produce his heave in purity.
¹⁴⁶ The vulgar, negligent in matters of purity.
¹⁴⁷ The Cohen, observing the rules of purity.
¹⁴⁸ Since the Temple wine makes him observant of the rules of purity.
¹⁴⁹ Which in Ex


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:2
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**הלכה:** חוֹמֶר בַּתְּרוּמָה שֶׁבִּיהוּדָה נֶאֱמָנִין. הָא בַגָּלִיל לֹא. רִבִּי סִימוֹן רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי בְשֵׁם רִבִּי פְּדָיָיה. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁפְּסִיקִיָיא שֶׁלְכּוּתִים מַפְסֶקֶת. וְהָא תַנִּינָן. שְׁנִיָיה לָהּ רֶגֶב בְּעֵבֶר הַיַּרְדֵּן. בְּלֹא כָךְ אֵין פְּסִיקִיָיא שֶׁלְכּוּתִים מַפְסֶקֶת. אָמַר רִבִּי שַׁמַּי. תִּיפְתָּר בְּמֵבִיא גַּרְגִּרִים וְכוֹתְשָׁן שָׁם. וּבִיהוּדָה נֶאֱמָנִין עַל הַיַּיִן אֲבָל לֹא עַל הַקַּנְקִינִים. וּבַגָּלִיל אֵינָן נֶאֱמָנִין לֹא עַל הַיַּיִן וְלֹא הַקַּנְקִינִים. רִבִּי סִימוֹן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי. בֶּן דָּרוֹם שֶׁאָמַר. בַּגָּלִיל הֵבֵאתִיהָ. נֶאֱמָן. וּבֶן גָּלִיל שֶׁאָמַר. מִדָּרוֹם הֵבֵאתִיהָ. אֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** “One is more restrictive for heave in that in Judea one is trustworthy.” Rebbi Simon, Rebbi Joshua ben Levi in the name of Rebbi Pedaiah: Because a strip of Samaritans interrupts¹⁵⁰ 3:1 Note 27). The correct version is Rashi’s reading in the Babli: “A strip of Gentile territory”, which is impure in the general impurity of lands outside Jewish Palestine; cf. *Dikduke Sopherim Ḥagigah* 25a Note 8.. But did we not state¹⁵¹ 8:3., “the second best is Regev in Transjordan”? Without this would not a strip of Samaritans interrupt¹⁵⁰ 3:1 Note 27). The correct version is Rashi’s reading in the Babli: “A strip of Gentile territory”, which is impure in the general impurity of lands outside Jewish Palestine; cf. *Dikduke Sopherim Ḥagigah* 25a Note 8.? Rebbi Shammai said, explain it if he brings whole olives¹⁵² and pounds them there. And in Judea one is trustworthy about the wine but not about the flasks. Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: A Southerner who said, I brought this from Galilee is trustworthy; a Galilean who said, I brought this from Judea is not trustworthy¹⁵³.

footnotes:
¹⁵⁰ This statement must be late Amoraic, after the exclusion of Samaritans from Judaism according to its rabbinic interpretation (cf. Avodah zarah
¹⁵¹ Mishnah Menaḥot
¹⁵⁰ This statement must be late Amoraic, after the exclusion of Samaritans from Judaism according to its rabbinic interpretation (cf. Avodah zarah
¹⁵² Which never were wetted and therefore are impervious to impurity.
¹⁵³ In both cases the heave is impure unless under control of a trustworthy person.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:3)

רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה סְבַר מֵימַר בִּתְרוּמָה שֶׁנַּעֲשִׂית עַל גַּב הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. הָא עַל גַּב עַצְמָהּ לֹא. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. וַאֶפִילוּ נַעֲשִׂית עַל גַּב עַצָמָהּ. מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא עַל רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. צָרִיךְ לַעֲמוֹד עֲלֵיהֶן עַד שֶׁיִּטְבּוֹלוּ. פָּתַר לָהּ שֶׁלֹּא בִשְׁעַת הַבַּד. אִית לָךְ מֵימַר שֶׁלֹּא בִּשְׁעַת הַגַּת. אָמַר רִבִּי יִצְחָק בֵּירִבִּי לָעְזָר. אוֹ קוֹדֶם עַד שֶׁלֹּא בָצְרוּ בָהּ שְׁלֹשָׁה בְנֵי אָדָם נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת. בִּשְׁעַת הַגִּיתּוֹתּ וְהַבַּדִּים הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְהוֹרוֹת. עָבְרוּ הַגִּיתּוֹתּ וְהַבַּדִּים הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְמֵאוֹת. וְיֵשׁ כְּלִי חֶרֶשׂ מִשֶּׁהוּא מְיטָהֵר חוֹזֵר וּמְיטַמֵּא. וְלֵית כָּל אִילֵּין מִילַּיָיא כֵן. אֶלָּא כֵינִי. נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת קוֹדֶם לַגִּיתּוֹתּ וְלַבַּדִּים הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְהוֹרוֹת. וְיֵשׁ כְּלִי חֶרֶשׂ מִשֶּׁהוּא מְיטַמֵּא חוֹזֵר וּמְיטָהֵר. וְלֵית כָּל אִילֵּין מִילַּיָיא כֵן. אֶלָּא כֵינִי. נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת בְּשָׁעָה שֶׁהוּא מָלֵא הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְהוֹרוֹת. פִּינֵּהוּ הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְמֵאוֹת. וְיֵשׁ כְּלִי חֶרֶשׂ מִשֶּׁהוּא מְיטָהֵר חוֹזֵר וּמְיטַמֵּא. וְלֵית כָּל אִילֵּין מִילַּיָיא כֵן. אֶלָּא כֵינִי. נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת בְּשָׁעָה שֶׁהוּא רֵיקָן הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְמֵאוֹת. מִילֵּהוּ הַטַּהֲרוֹת טְהוֹרוֹת. וְיֵשׁ כְּלִי חֶרֶשׂ מִשֶּׁהוּא מְיטַמֵּא חוֹזֵר וּמְיטָהֵר. וְלֵית כָּל אִילֵּין מִילַּיָיא כֵן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Jeremiah was of the opinion, only heave prepared in the purity of *sancta*¹⁵⁴. Therefore not in its own. Rebbi Yose said, even if prepared in its own¹⁵⁵.. A Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Yose¹⁵⁶ 10:3. The Mishnah prescribes that in preparation of the olive and grape harvests one requests the workers, presumed to be vulgars who do not observe the rules of purity in their daily lives, to immerse themselves in a *miqweh*. For R. Meïr it is enough if the employer leads them to the *miqweh*, but R. Yose the Tanna requires that he observe their immersion. This clearly means that the workers in olive or wine presses are not presumed to follow strictly the rules of purity.: “He has to watch them until they immersed themselves.” Explain it: not in the time of the olive harvest. Could you say not in the time of the grape harvest¹⁵⁷ which mentions wine-press workers must refer to the time of the grape harvest.? Rebbi Isaac ben Rebbi Eleazar said, if food prepared in purity touched it before three people used it, at the time of olive and grape harvests the food prepared in purity remains pure, not at the time of olive and grape harvests the food prepared in purity becomes impure. Does there exist any clay vessel which is pure and then makes impure¹⁵⁸ 3:4 and *Taharot*10:3 are incompatible.? Are not all these of the same kind? But it must be the following: if food prepared in purity touched it before the time of olive and grape harvests the food prepared in purity remains pure. Does there exist any clay vessel which is impure and then pure? Are not all these of the same kind? But it must be the following: if food prepared in purity touched it when it was full the food prepared in purity remains pure. If he cleared it, the food prepared in purity becomes impure. Does there exist any clay vessel which is pure and then makes impure? Are not all these of the same kind? But it must be the following: if food prepared in purity touched it when it was empty the food prepared in purity becomes impure. If he filled it, the food prepared in purity remains pure. Does there exist any clay vessel which is pure and then makes impure? Are not all these of the same kind¹⁵⁹?

footnotes:
¹⁵⁴ Since the Mishnah connects purity of food prepared by the non-observant to the preparation of oil and wine for the Temple, it seems rational to restrict the entire Mishnah to food prepared to Temple standards.
¹⁵⁵ If R. Jeremiah were correct, one could not say that the standards of heave are more strict than those of sancta
¹⁵⁶ Mishnah Taharot
¹⁵⁷ Olives which remain intact being harvested may be stored and later be pressed but grapes must be pressed immediately after being harvested. Therefore the Mishnah in Taharot
¹⁵⁸ Since clay utensils cannot be purified other than being broken, it does not make any sense to consider clay olive and grape presses pure one day and impure the next. Mishnaiot Hagigah
¹⁵⁹ There is no formulation able to bridge the conceptual contradictions between the two Mishnaiot.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:4
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:4)

אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. כּוֹשְׁתְּ וְקֲירוּיָה וּמָבוֹי וְגֵר וְעַם הָאָרֶץ. חוֹמָרִין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
¹⁶⁰9:4 (Notes 60–69). The implication here is that the Mishnah in *Taharot* presents a rabbinic restriction. Since this is not a matter of logic, there is no contradiction in the basic legal foundations of both Mishnaiot. Rebbi Joḥanan said, *costos*, and hollowed squash, and alley, and convert, and vulgar, are restrictive.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁰ A somewhat fuller version of a text from Eruvin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:5
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:5)

כּוֹשְׁתְּ. כַּיי דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. הַכּוֹשְׁתְּ וְהַחֶמֶס וְרָאשֵׁי בְשָׂמִים הַתִּיָיה וְהַחִלְתִּית וְהַפִּילְפְּלִין וְחַלּוֹת חָרִיעַ נִלְקָחִין בְּכֶסֶף מַעֲשֵׂר. וְאֵינָן מִטַּמִּין טוּמְאַת אוֹכְלִין דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן נוּרִי. אִם נִלְקָחִין בְּכֶסֶף מַעֲשֵׂר מִפְּנֵי מָה אֵינָן מִטַּמּוֹת טוּמְאַת אוֹכְלִין. אִם אֵינָן מִטַּמּוֹת טוּמְאַת אוֹכְלִין אַף הֵן לֹא יִלָּקְחוּ בְּכֶסֶף מַעֲשֵׂר. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. חוֹמָרִין. מִטַּמִּין טוּמְאַת אוֹכְלִים וְאֵינָן נִלְקָחִין בְּכֶסֶף מַעֲשֵׂר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
*Costos* as we have stated¹⁶¹ 3:5. *Costos,-i, f*., Greek κόστος, an Oriental aromatic plant., “*costos*, and cardamon, and important spices,¹⁶² and benjamin, and asa foetida, and peppers, and safflower cakes, may be bought with tithe money¹⁶³ but do not become impure by impurity of foodstuff, the words of Rebbi Aqiba. Rebbi Joḥanan ben Nuri said, if they may be bought with tithe money they become impure by impurity of foodstuff, and if they do not become impure by impurity of foodstuff they may not be bought with tithe money.” Rebbi Joḥanan said, restrictive¹⁶⁴: they become impure by impurity of foodstuff and may not be bought with tithe money.

footnotes:
¹⁶¹ Mishnah Uqeṣin
¹⁶² The spices mentioned are not food but may be used as additives in the preparation of food.
¹⁶³ Money dedicated as Second Tithe which may be spent only on pure food or drink in Jerusalem.
¹⁶⁴ The Mishnah is stated as an argument, not as a statement, to permit in practice to accept each argument even though this results in two mutually contradictory restrictions.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:6
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:6)

קֵירוּיָה. כַּיי דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. קֵירוּיָה שֶׁהִטְבִּילוּהָ בְּמַיִם שֶׁהֵן רְאוּיִין לְקַדֵּשׁ מְקַדְּשִׁין בָּהּ עַד שֶׁתִּיטְמָא. נִיטְמָא אֵין מְקַדְּשִׁין בָּהּ. רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ אוֹמֵר אִם מְקַדְּשִׁין בָּהּ בַּתְּחִילָּה אַף בַּסּוֹף. אִם אֵינָן מְקַדְּשִׁין בָּהּ בַּסּוֹף אַף לֹא בַתְּחִילָּה. בֵּין כָּךְ וּבֵין כָּךְ לֹא יֶאֱסוֹף בְּתוֹכָהּ מַיִם מְקוּדָּשִׁין. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. חוֹמָרִין. אֵין מְקַדְּשִׁין בָּהּ לֹא בַתְּחִילָּה וְלֹא בַסּוֹף.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Hollowed squash as we have stated¹⁶⁵ 5:3. “Sanctify” means to put some of the ashes of the Red Cow into the water to use it to purify from the impurity of the dead. This water has to be taken from flowing water (*Num*. 19:17). Since the squash, used as a pot, will absorb of this water, immediately after it has been immersed in flowing water it might be used in the ceremony, but later the water retained in its walls will invalidate new water drawn by the hollowed squash. In the Mishnah, R. Joshua argues that if at the start the squash was acceptable it always should be acceptable, if later it is not acceptable neither should it be at the start (since the point in time when it becomes unacceptable is not well defined.): “A hollowed squash which one immersed in water is suitable for sanctification, and one uses it to sanctify until it becomes impure. Once it is impure one may not use it to sanctify. Rebbi Joshua says, if one uses it to sanctify at the start then also at the end. If one does not use at the end then also not at the start.” Rebbi Joḥanan said, restrictive, one may not sanctify either at the beginning or at the end.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁵ Mishnah Parah


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:7
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:7)

מָבוֹי. כַּיי דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. וְכֵן מָבוֹי שֶׁנִּיטְּלָה קוֹרָתוֹ אוֹ לְחָיָיו כול'. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. חוֹמָרִין. אֲסוּרִין בֵּין בְּשַׁבָּת הַזֹּאת בֵין בְּשַׁבָּת הַבָּאָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Alley, as we have stated there¹⁶⁶ Mishnah 9:4. If the beam was in place at the start of the Sabbath, an argument is made that in the alley it closes one may continue to carry on this Sabbath., “or an alley whose beam was removed, etc.” Rebbi Joḥanan said, restrictive, it is forbidden both on this Sabbath and the coming Sabbath.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁶ Eruvin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:8
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:8)

גֵּר. דְּתַנֵּי. גֵּר שֶׁנִּתְגַּיֵיר וְהָיוּ לוֹ יֵינוֹת. אָמַר. בְּבָרִיא לִי שֶׁלֹּא נִתְנַסֶּךְ מֵהֶן. בִּזְמַן שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל גַּב עַצְמָן. טְהוֹרִין לוֹ וּטְמֵאִין לָאֲחֵרִים. עַל גַּב אֲחֵרִים טְמֵאִין בֵּין לוֹ בֵּין לָאֲחֵרִים. רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר. אִם טְהוֹרִין לוֹ יִהְיוּ טְהוֹרִין לָאֲחֵרִים. אִם טְמֵאִין לָאֲחֵרִים יִהְיוּ טְמֵאִין לוֹ. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. חוֹמָרִין. טְמֵאִין בֵּין לוֹ בֵין לָאֲחֵרִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Proselyte, as it was stated: If a proselyte converted while he had wines, and said, it is clear to me that no libations were made from it, if he made it by himself it is pure for him but impure for others¹⁶⁷, Chapters 2–5., by others it is impure both for him and for others. Rebbi Aqiba said, if they are pure for him they should be pure for others; if impure for others they should be impure for him. Rebbi Joḥanan said, restrictive, impure for him and for others.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁷ As wine prepared by a Non-Jew, cf. Avodah zarah


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:9
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:9)

עַם הָאָרֶץ. דְּתַנֵּי. עַם הָאָרֶץ שֶׁנִּתְמַנֶּה לִהְיוֹת חָבֵר. וְהָיוּ לוֹ טָהֳרוֹת וְאָמַר. בְּבָרִיא לִי שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ בְטַהֲרָה. בִּזְמַן שֶׁנַּעֲשׂוּ עַל גַּב עַצְמוֹ טְהוֹרוֹת לוֹ וּטְמֵאוֹת לָאֲחֵרִים. עַל גַּב אֲחֵרִים טְמֵאוֹת בֵּין לוֹ בֵין לָאֲחֵרִים. רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר. אִם טְהוֹרוֹת לוֹ יִהְיוּ טְהוֹרוֹת לָאֲחֵרִים. אִם טְמֵאוֹת לָאֲחֵרִים יִהְיוּ טְמֵאוֹת לוֹ. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. חוֹמָרִין. טְמֵאוֹת בֵּין לוֹ בֵּין לָאֲחֵרִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Vulgar, as it was stated: If a vulgar person who was inducted as a fellow¹⁶⁸. has food made in purity and he said, it is clear to me that it was prepared in purity, if he made it by himself it is pure for him but impure for others, by others it is impure both for him and for others. Rebbi Aqiba said, if they are pure for him they should be pure for others; if impure for others they should be impure for him. Rebbi Joḥanan said, restrictive, impure for him and for others.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁸ A fellow is a person observing all rules of purity in the absence of a Temple, cf. Introduction to Tractate Demay


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:10
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:10)

אָמַר רִבִּי יַנַּיי. הָרוּבִּין הָיוּ אוֹמְרִים. בִּתְרוּמָה שֶׁנַּעֲשִׂית עַל גַּב הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. הָא עַל גַּב עַצְמָהּ לֹא. וַאֲנִי אוֹמֵר. אֲפִילוּ נַעֲשִׂית עַל גַּב עַצָמָהּ. אַתְיָא דְרִבִּי יוֹסֵי כְרִבִּי יַנַּאי וּדְרִבִּי יִרְמְיָה כִרוּבִּים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Yannai said, the youngsters¹⁶⁹ said, only heave prepared in the purity of *sancta*¹⁵⁴. Therefore not in its own. But I am saying, even if prepared in its own¹⁵⁵.. Rebbi Yose follows Rebbi Yannai and Rebbi Jeremiah the youngsters.

footnotes:
¹⁶⁹ The sons of R. Ḥiyya the Elder, Ḥizqiah and Jehudah. Since in the absence of a Temple no ruling is required about the meaning of the Mishnah, none is given.
¹⁵⁴ Since the Mishnah connects purity of food prepared by the non-observant to the preparation of oil and wine for the Temple, it seems rational to restrict the entire Mishnah to food prepared to Temple standards.
¹⁵⁵ If R. Jeremiah were correct, one could not say that the standards of heave are more strict than those of sancta


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:11
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:11)

אִם אָמַר לוֹ הִפְרַשְׁתִּי לְתוֹכָהּ רְבִיעִית בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ נֶאֱמָן. מֵאַחַר שֶׁהוּא נֶאֱמָן עַל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ נֶאֱמָן עַל הַתְּרוּמָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“Only if he said, I put into it a *quartarius* of *sanctum* he is trustworthy¹⁴⁸.” Since he is trustworthy for the *sanctum* he is trustworthy for heave¹⁷⁰.

footnotes:
¹⁴⁸ Since the Temple wine makes him observant of the rules of purity.
¹⁷⁰ Babli 25b.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:12
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:4:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:4:12)

כַּדֵּי יַיִן וְכַדֵּי שֶׁמֶן הַמַּדְמִיעוֹת. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּירִבִּי בּוּן. אֵילּוּ שֶׁקּוֹדְחִין בָּהֶן אֶת הַדֶּמַע.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“One is trustworthy about wine and oil barrels used for heave.” Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, those in which one heats heave.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:1
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:5:1)

**משנה:** מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלִפְנִים נֶאֱמָנִין עַל כְּלֵי חֶרֶשׁ. וֹמִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלַחוּץ אֵין נֶאֱמָנִין. כֵּיצַד הַקַּדָּר שֶׁהוּא מוֹכֵר אֶת הַקְּדֵירוֹת נִכְנַס לִפְנִים מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית הוּא הַקַּדָּר וְהֵן הַקְּדֵירוֹת וְהֵן הַלּוֹקְחִין נֶאֱמָן. יָצָא אֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** From Modiin and closer one is trustworthy about clay vessels, but from Modiin and outside one is not trustworthy. How is this? The potter¹⁷¹ who sells pots¹⁷² in. The problem with clay vessels is that they cannot be made pure once they are impure. Now the remainders of meat absorbed in the porous walls of clay vessels become forbidden and impure leftover meat after the time allotted to its consumption and therefore must be broken (*Lev.*6:21). If only fellows could supply clay vessels for *sancta*, everybody would have to use expensive metal vessels., if he is inside from Modiin then the potter, the pots, and the buyers¹⁷³, are trustworthy. If he left he is not trustworthy¹⁷⁴.

footnotes:
¹⁷¹ Who usually is a vulgar, not trustworthy in matters of purity.
¹⁷² The kinds used to cook sancta
¹⁷³ The buyer who affirms that he bought the pot at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin.
¹⁷⁴ Even about pots he sold at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:2
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:5:2)

**הלכה:** מַתְנִיתָה בִּכְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ הַדָּקִּים. מַתְנִיתָה אָמְרָה כֵן. הוּא הַקַּדָּר וְהֵן הַקְּדֵירוֹת וְהֵן הַלּוֹקְחִין. וּקְדֵירוֹת לֹא כְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ דָּקִּין הֵן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** The Mishnah is about small clay vessels. The Mishnah implies this: “the potter, the pots, and the buyers.” And are pots not small clay vessels¹⁷⁵?

footnotes:
¹⁷⁵ Vessels of daily use, not large vats. Babli 26a.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:5:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:5:3)

נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת. מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלִפְנִים טִימֵּא מַשְׁקֶה אֶת הַכֶּלִי. הָיָה מָלֵא מַיִם. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר. נֶאֱמָן עַל הַכֶּלִי וְאֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן עַל הַמַּשְׁקֶה. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. נֶאֱמָן עַל זֶה וְעַל זֶה. מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא עַל רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. אִם אָמַר לוֹ הִפְרַשְׁתִּי לְתוֹכָהּ רְבִיעִית קוֹדֶשׁ נֶאֱמָן. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. תִּיפְתָּר בָּאוֹמֵר. עַד שֶׁאֲנִי חָבֵר הִפְרַשְׁתִּיהָ. רַבָּנִן דְּקַיְסָרִין בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה. טַעְמָא דְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אֵין חֲבֵירוּת לַמַּיִם.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
If food prepared in purity touched it, from Modiin and closer the fluid made the vessel impure¹⁷⁶. If it was filled with water, Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, he is trustworthy about the vessel but not trustworthy about the fluid. Rebbi Joḥanan said, he is trustworthy about both. A Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: “Only if he said, I put into it a *quartarius* of *sanctum* he is trustworthy¹⁴⁸.” Rebbi Ze`ira said, explain it about one who said, I separated it when I was fellow¹⁷⁷. The rabbis of Caesarea in the name of Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya: The reason of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, there is no fellowship for water¹⁷⁸.

footnotes:
¹⁷⁶ While the vulgar is to be believed if near Jerusalem he stated that a clay vessel was pure, this refers only to empty vessels. If the vessel contains food, according to R. Joḥanan one says that since he is trustworthy about the vessel he also is trustworthy for its contents. This is denied by R. Simeon ben Laqish; therefore the statement under consideration is R. Simeon ben Laqish’s, not accepted by R. Joḥanan. The text mentions fluid because impure fluids always are impure in the first degree and make clay vessels impure in their interior.
¹⁴⁸ Since the Temple wine makes him observant of the rules of purity.
¹⁷⁷ The vulgar is not trusted if he affirms that the food was prepared under the supervision of a fellow.
¹⁷⁸ He holds that even on a holiday, on which all of Israel are considered fellows, no vulgar is trustworthy to testify about water.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:1
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:6:1)

**משנה:** הַגַּבָּאִים שֶׁנִּכְנְסוּ לְתוֹךְ הַבַּיִת וְכֵן הַגַּבָּאִים שֶׁהֶחֱזִירוּ אֶת הַכֵּלִים נֶאֱמָנִין לוֹמַר לֹא נָגַעְנוּ. וּבִירוּשָׁלִַם נֶאֱמָנִין עַל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ וּבִשְׁעַת הָרֶגֶל אַף עַל הַתְּרוּמָה:

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** Tax collectors¹⁷⁹ who entered a house, and also tax collectors who returned implements¹⁸⁰, are trustworthy if they say “we did not touch”. And in Jerusalem they¹⁸¹ are trustworthy about *sancta*, and on holidays also about heave.

footnotes:
¹⁷⁹ Vulgar Jews entering the house of a fellow.
¹⁸¹ Every Jew.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:2
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:6:2)

**הלכה:** הַגַּבָּאִים שֶׁנִּכְנְסוּ לְתוֹךְ הַבַּיִת הַבַּיִת טָמֵא. אִם יֵשׁ עִמָּהֶן גּוֹי נֶאֱמָנִין לוֹמַר נִכְנַסְנוּ אֲבָל לֹא נָגַעְנוּ. פָּתַר לָהּ תְּרֵין פְּתָרִין. נֶאֱמָנִין לוֹמַר נִכְנַסְנוּ אֲבָל לֹא נָגַעְנוּ. בְּשֶׁיֵּשׁ עֵדִים יוֹדְעִין. וּבִירוּשָׁלִַם נֶאֱמָנִין עַל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ אֲפִילוּ יֵשׁ עֵדִים יוֹדְעִין. פָּתַר לָהּ פֶּתֶר חוֹרָן. נֶאֱמָנִין לוֹמַר נִכְנַסְנוּ אֲבָל לֹא נָגַעְנוּ. לָכֵן צְרִיכָה בְּשֶׁיֵּשׁ עֵדִים יוֹדְעִין. וּבִירוּשָׁלִַם נֶאֱמָנִין עַל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ עֵדִים יוֹדְעִין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** “If tax collectors entered a house, the house is impure. If they are accompanied by a Gentile they are trustworthy to say, we entered but we did not touch.¹⁸² 7:6. Tosephta *Taharot* 8:5 explains that even though the Gentile is no formal witness, the tax collectors fear to lie in the presence of people who know better.” One may explain this by two explanations. They are trustworthy to say, we entered but we did not touch if witnesses know of it¹⁸³. And in Jerusalem they are trustworthy about *sancta* even if witnesses know of it. One may explain by another explanation: They are trustworthy to say, we entered but we did not touch. This is necessary {to be stated} even if witnesses know of it. And in Jerusalem they are trustworthy about *sancta* even if witnesses know of it.

footnotes:
¹⁸² Mishnah Taharot
¹⁸³ Probably this should be read as “no witnesses know of it.” In this case it would be an application of the principle, “the mouth which forbade is the mouth which permits.” If no witness knows that he entered, the house would be impure only by his testimony. But if one believes him in this one also must believe him that he did not touch and therefore the house is pure.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:6:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:6:3)

אָמַר רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי. יְרוּשָׁלַם הַבְּנוּיָה כְּעִיר שֶׁחוּבְּרָה לָּהּ יַחְדָּיו. עִיר שֶׁהִיא עוֹשָׂה כָל יִשְׂרָאֵל חֲבֵרִים. מֵעַתָּה אֲפִילוּ בִּשְׁאַר יְמוֹת הַשָּׁנָה. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. וּבִלְבַד בְּשָׁעָה שֶׁשָּׁם עָלוּ שְׁבָטִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Joshua ben Levi said, *Jerusalem, built like a city which combines in fellowship*¹⁸⁴. 122:3. The Babli 26a quotes another verse., the city which confers fellowship on all of Israel¹⁸⁵. Then even on all other days of the year? Rebbi Ze`ira said, in the time *when the tribes ascended*¹⁸⁶. 122:4, the holidays of pilgrimage..

footnotes:
¹⁸⁴ Ps
¹⁸⁵ All of Israel are presumed to strictly observe all rules of purity.
¹⁸⁶ Ps


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:1
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:7:1)

**משנה:** הַפּוֹתֵחַ אֶת חָבִיתוֹ וְהַמַּתְחִיל בְּעִסָּתוֹ עַל גַּב הָרֶגֶל. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר יִגְמוֹר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים לֹא יִגְמוֹר. מִשֶּׁעָבַר הָרֶגֶל הָיוּ מַעֲבִירִין עַל טַהֲרַת עֲזָרָה. עָבַר הָרֶגֶל בְּיוֹם שִׁשִּׁי לֹא הָיוּ מַעֲבִירִין מִפְּנֵי כְּבוֹד הַשַּׁבָּת. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר אַף לֹא בְּיוֹם חֲמִישִׁי שֶׁאֵין הַכֹּהֲנִים פְּנוּיִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** If one¹⁸⁷ opens a barrel, or one starts to sell his dough, on the holiday, Rebbi Jehudah says, he may finish, but the Sages say, he may not finish. After the holiday one proclaims the purity of the courtyard¹⁸⁸ after the holiday.. If the holiday was over on a Friday one did not go over it because of the honor of the Sabbath¹⁸⁹. Rebbi Jehudah says, also not if the holiday was over on Thursday since the priests are not free¹⁹⁰.

footnotes:
¹⁸⁷ A fellow grocer selling wine or a fellow baker selling dough to vulgars on the holiday. On the holiday itself the touch of the vulgar does not make impure. For R. Jehudah therefore at the end of the holiday everything is pure but for the Sages the impurity only is suspended during the holiday but re-appears after the holiday if the remainders of wine or dough are offered for sale.
¹⁸⁸ One alerts the Cohanim and Levites that following the Sages, all utensils which were used during the holiday must be purified by immersion in a miqweh
¹⁸⁹ So not to interfere with the preparations for the Sabbath.
¹⁹⁰ On the holiday an enormous amount of ashes collected on the altar which has to be removed on the first day after the end of the holiday. There would be no manpower for the purifying of the courtyards.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:2
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:7:2)

**הלכה:** רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. הִתִּירוּ סוֹפוֹ מִפְּנֵי תְחִילָּתוֹ. שֶׁאִם אוֹמֵר אַתְּ לוֹ שֶׁלֹּא יִגִמוֹר אַף הוּא אֵינוֹ פוֹתֵחַ. וְלֹא יִפְתַּח. אַף הוּא מְמָעֵט בְּשִׂמְחַת הָרֶגֶל.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Rebbi Ḥananiah in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: They permitted its end because of its beginning. Since if you would tell him that he may not finish he would not open¹⁹¹. Let him not open! Then he diminishes the enjoyment of the holiday.

footnotes:
¹⁹¹ If the grocer is not sure that he may sell the entire contents of a new barrel, nobody would expect him to supply wine or oil towards the end of the holiday.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:7:3)

רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר נַחְמָן בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹנָתָן. מַה פְלִיגִין. בְּחָבִית שֶׁלְיַיִן. אֲבָל בְּחָבִית שֶׁלְשֶׁמֶן כָּל עַמָּא מוֹדֵיי שֶׁאֵינוֹ גּוֹמְרָהּ. כֵּיצַד הוּא עוֹשֶׂה. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי חִיָיה. שׁוֹפְכָהּ. תַּנֵּי בַּר קַפָּרָה. שׁוֹבְרָהּ. וְהָא תַנָּא רִבִּי חֲלַפְתָּא בֶּן שָׁאוּל. מַנִּיחָהּ לָרֶגֶל הַבָּא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Samuel bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Where do they disagree? About a wine barrel. But about an oil barrel everybody agrees that he does not finish. What does he do? Rebbi Ḥiyya stated, he pours it out. Bar Qappara stated, he breaks it. However Rebbi Ḥalaphta ben Shaul stated, he leaves it for the next holiday¹⁹².

footnotes:
¹⁹² R. Ḥalaphta ben Shaul is a contemporary of R. Ḥiyya and Bar Qappara. His statement is the only one agreeing with R. Joḥanan’s statement since oil in contrast to wine may be kept in open barrels for a greater amount of time. Therefore his statement must be practice. R. Ḥiyya’s statement seems impractical since he eliminates the now impure oil but retains the impure barrel, whereas Bar Qappara sees to it that the barrel is purified by breaking it.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:4
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:7:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:7:4)

רִבִּי סִימוֹן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי. יוֹם טוֹב שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת אוֹכֵל אַף תִּשְׁבּוֹת הָרֶגֶל כָּרֶגֶל. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. מַתְנִיתָה אָמְרָה כֵן. עֶרֶב הַפֶּסַח כַּפֶּסַח. וְיוֹם טָבוֹחַ כַּעֲצֶרֶת. אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה. אוֹף אֲנָן תַּנִּינָן דְּרָבָא. רִבִּי יוּדָה אוֹמֵר אַף לֹא בְּיוֹם הַחֲמִישִׁי שֶׁאֵין הַכֹּהֲנִים פְּנוּיִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: If a holiday falls on a Friday, one eats making Sabbath after the holiday like the holiday¹⁹³. Rebbi Ze`ira said, a *baraita* states this: The eve of Passover is like Passover¹⁹⁴ sacrifice on the 14 of Nisan follows holiday rules., the day of slaughter¹⁹⁵ is like Pentecost. Rebbi Ḥananiah said, we also stated more than this: “Rebbi Jehudah says, also not if the holiday was over on Thursday since the priests are not free¹⁹⁶.”

footnotes:
¹⁹³ The reference is to the last day of a holiday. If that day is a Friday, on the following Sabbath by necessity one eats the food of the holiday. Therefore on this Sabbath the vulgar still must be considered as a fellow and his touch does not cause impurity.
¹⁹⁴ Since the Pesaḥ
¹⁹⁵ The day following the one-day festival of Pentecost, when the pilgrims bring all sacrifices which cannot be brought on the holiday itself. Therefore the day must have the status of the holiday itself to allow full participation of all Jews.
¹⁹⁶ For R. Jehudah the Friday following a holiday of Thursday always has the status of the holiday which by the argument of Note 193 implies that the following Sabbath also has the same status.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:1
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:8:1)

**משנה:** כֵּיצַד מַעֲבִירִין עַל טַהֲרַת הָעֲזָרָה. מַטְבִּילִין אֶת הַכֵּלִים שֶׁהָיוּ בַּמִּקְדָּשׁ. הָיוּ לָהֶן שְׁנִיִּים וּשְׁלִישִׁים שֶׁאִם נִטְמְאוּ הָרִאשׁוֹנִים יָבִיאוּ שְׁנִיִּים תַּחְתֵּיהֶן. כָּל הַכֵּלִים שֶׁהָיוּ בַּמִּקְדָּשׁ טְעוּנִין טְבִילָה חוּץ מִמִּזְבַּח הַזָּהָב וּמִזְבַּח הַנְּחֹשֶׁת מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן כַּקַּרְקַע דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן מְצוּפִּין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** How does one proclaim the purity of the courtyard¹⁸⁸ after the holiday.? One immerses all vessels in the Temple¹⁹⁷. There were seconds and thirds, that in case the first ones became impure one would bring the seconds in their place. All vessels in the Temple need immersion except the golden altar and the copper altar since they are like soil¹⁹⁸, the words of Rebbi Eliezer, but the Sages are saying, because they are plated¹⁹⁹.

footnotes:
¹⁸⁸ One alerts the Cohanim and Levites that following the Sages, all utensils which were used during the holiday must be purified by immersion in a miqweh
¹⁹⁷ After the end of the holiday. The Mishnah in the Babli makes it clear that the purification is because of the impurity of the vulgar which only was suspended, not eliminated during the holiday. Since the Mishnah in the printed Yerushalmi is not from the ms. on which the text of the Halakhah is based, one cannot infer too much from differences in the text of the Mishnah. However, since the Halakhah strictly follows the text of the Mishnah here and its first paragraph makes it clear that the reason for the purification is that one suspects that in the throng of holiday traffic a vessel might have become impure by biblical standards it is clear that the Yerushalmi does not accept the argument of the Babli. This supports the thesis that the picture of relations between Pharisees and non-Pharisees given in the Babli cannot be accepted as historical fact; cf. Introduction to Tractate Demay.
¹⁹⁸ And therefore not susceptible to impurity.
¹⁹⁹ Therefore one never touches the altar itself but only the cover which cannot transmit impurity to the altar.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:2
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:8:2)

**הלכה:** וְכֵלִים טְעוּנִין טְבִילָה. אָמַר רִבִּי בָּא. אֲנִי אוֹמֵר. שֶׁמָּא שֶׁהָיָה שָׁם אֶחָד מִן הַכֵּלִים שֶׁלֹּא הוּזָּה. מֵעַתָּה נָחוּשׁ לְכוּלָּן. אָמַר רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה. אֲנִי אוֹמֵר. שֶׁהָיָה שָׁם אֶחָד מִן הַכֹּהֲנִים שֶׁיָּצָא לְדַבֵּר עִם הָאִשָּׁה עַל עִיסְקֵי קִינָּהּ וְנִתְזָה צִינּוֹרָה שֶׁלְרוֹק מִתּוֹךְ פִּיהָ עַל בְּגָדָיו וְטִימָּתוֹ. מֵעַתָּה נָחוּשׁ לְכוּלָּם. תִּיפְתָּר בְּשֶׁנִּיטְמָא בִסְפֵק מַשְׁקִין. תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. סְפֵק מַשְׁקִין לִטַּמֵּא טָמֵא. וּלְטַמֵּא טָהוֹר. תַּמָּן בִּתְרוּמָה וְכָאן בַּקּוֹדֶשׁ. חוֹמֶר הוּא בַקּוֹדֶשׁ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Do vessels need immersion? Rebbi Abba said, I am saying that possibly one of the vessels there was not sprinkled upon²⁰⁰. Then should we not suspect all of them²⁰¹? Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya said, I am saying that there was one of the Cohanim who left to speak with a woman about her nest and a drop of spittle fell on his clothing from her mouth and made him impure²⁰² only by a sacrifice of a couple of birds, a “nest”. These sacrifices have to be brought after the woman was purified by immersion in a way which shields the Cohanim (Mishnah *Šeqalim* 6:8), here one refers to a Cohen who counsels a woman still impure as *zavah,* whose body fluids are primary sources of biblical impurities, on the ways of purification.. Then should we not suspect all of them? Explain it if it became impure by fluids of uncertain status²⁰³. There we have stated²⁰⁴ 4:9. The Mishnah seems to imply that the case envisaged by R. Abun bar Ḥiyya cannot occur since possible rabbinic impurity does not cause certain impurity of implements known to be pure.: “Fluids of uncertain status, to become impure they are impure, to make impure they are pure.” There about heave, here about *sancta*. One is restrictive for *sancta*.

footnotes:
²⁰⁰ While the expression “sprinkled upon” refers to water with the ashes of the Red Cow needed to purify the impurity of the dead, clearly here it cannot refer to a procedure that extends for a week but is taken as general expression for purifying biblical impurity. However, if the immersion is for biblical impurity, the vessel returns to a status of purity only after the following sundown. Then the question arises, how was the Temple service performed for the remainder of the day of immersion if there were no pure vessels available? The answer is given in the Mishnah, that there were reserve vessels available which had not been used during the holiday.
²⁰¹ The answer given in the preceding Note seems to be invalid since one refers to pre-existing biblical impurity. Then the second and third vessels should also be immersed and not only after a holiday but every day of the year. While the second objection may answered that daily immersion clearly is impractical, the first objection remains unanswered.
²⁰² A woman after childbirth or after an extended period of menstrual impurity regains her right to participate in sacra
²⁰³ Which are impure in the first degree by rabbinical convention only. Then it is reasonable to restrict the general immersion to holidays since at all other days precautions can be taken that such a case does not occur in the Temple.
²⁰⁴ Mishnah Taharot


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:3
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:8:3)

תַּנֵּי. שׁוּלְחָן שֶׁנִּיטְמָא מַטְבִּילִין אוֹתוֹ בִּזְמַנּוֹ אֶפִילוּ בַשַּׁבָּת. דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים. מִיָּד. אַשְׁכַּחַת אֲמַר. עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי מֵאִיר. מְטַמֵּא שְׁנֵי לְחָמִים. עַל דַּעְתּוֹן דְּרַבָּנִן אֵינוֹ מְטַמֵּא אֶלָּא לֶחֶם אֶחָד בִּלְבַד. אָמַר רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר סוֹסַי קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. וַאֲפִילוּ עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי מֵאִיר אֵינוֹ מְטַמֵּא אֶלָּא לֶחֶם אֶחָד בִּלְבַד. תִּיפְתָּר שֶׁנִּיטְמָא בִסְפֵק מַשְׁקִין. פַּעַם אַחַת הִטְבִּילוּ אֶת הַמְּנוֹרָה. אָמְרוּ צְדוּקִים. רְאוּ פְרוּשִׁים מַטְבִּילִין גַּלְגַּל חַמָּה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
It was stated²⁰⁵: “If the table became impure one immerses it at its time, even on the Sabbath, the words of Rebbi Meïr. But the Sages are saying, immediately.”²⁰⁶ You find to say, in Rebbi Meïr’s opinion it makes two breads impure; in the rabbis’ opinion it only makes one bread impure²⁰⁷. Rebbi Jacob bar Sosai said before Rebbi Yose, even according to Rebbi Meïr it makes only one bread impure. Explain it if it became impure by fluids of questionable status²⁰⁸. “Once they immersed the candelabrum. The Sadducees said, look the Pharisees immerse the ball of the sun.¹²⁰⁹”

footnotes:
²⁰⁵ Tosephta 3:35.
²⁰⁶ The table in the Sanctuary is movable, therefore it is an implement and subject to impurity, e. g., by contact with a dead reptile. In the case of biblical impurity it should be impossible to return it to its place before sundown; this is R. Meïr’s position. The Sages require that it be returned immediately, as soon as it is no longer impure even if it is not yet pure, since the verse requires that the shew-bread be “always” on the table, i. e., every day and certainly at sundown and sunrise.
²⁰⁷ The biblically impure table makes the bread it touches biblically impure. For the rabbis the higher degrees of impurity are rabbinic (or rather, conventional), to be disregarded in the Sanctuary. For R. Meïr one accepts at least one degree of conventional impurity (but not all three additional ones.)
²⁰⁸ If the impurity of the table from the start was not clearly biblical, R. Meïr accepts the rabbis’ point of view.
¹ Tosephta 3:35.
²⁰⁹ They object to conventional extensions of the notions of impurity.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:4
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:8:4)

תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. נִכְנְסוּ לְלִישְׁכַּת הַכֵּלִים וְהוֹצִיאוּ מִשָּׁם תִּשְׁעִים וּשְׁלשָׁה כְלֵי כֶסֶף וּכְלֵי זָהָב. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר נַחְמָן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹנָתָן. כְּנֶגֶד תִּשְׁעִים וְשָׁלֹשׁ אַזְכָּרוֹת שֶׁכָּתוּב בְּפָרָשַׁת חַגַּי זְכַרְיָה וּמַלְאָכִי. אָמַר רִבִּי חוּנָה. חִישַּׁבְתִּים וְאֵינָן אֶלָּא שְׁמוֹנִים וְשָׁלֹשׁ. כְּנֶגֶד שְׁמוֹנִים וְשָׁלוֹשׁ חוֹתָמוֹת שֶׁכָּתוּב בְּעֶזְרָה שֶׁהָיָה כָל אֶחָד וְאֶחָד מְיַיחֵד שְׁמוֹ שֶׁלְהַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא וְחוֹתֵם. אִית דְּבָעֵי מֵימַר. כְּיוֹם מְרוּבֶּה שֶׁלְתָּמִיד כְּנֶגֶד שְׁלשָׁה עָשָׂר פָּרִים וְאַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר כְּבָשִׂים וְאֵילִים שְׁנַיִם וְשָׂעִיר אֶחָד.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There we have stated²¹⁰ 3:4.: “They entered the storage room of the vessels and brought out 93 silver and gold vessels.” Rebbi Samuel bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan: Corresponding to the 93 Names written in the Chapters of Haggai, Zacharia, and Malachi²¹¹. Rebbi Ḥuna said, I computed them and they are only 83, corresponding to the 83 signatures written in Ezra²¹² where each of them declared the Unity of the Name of the Holy One, praise to Him, and signed. Some want to say, corresponding to the day when the daily sacrifices were the most, corresponding to thirteen bulls, fourteen sheep, two rams, and one goat²¹³.

footnotes:
²¹⁰ Mishnah Tamid
²¹¹ “Name” usually is reserved for the Tetragrammaton. Here certainly “Zacharia” should be deleted since his text contains 132 times the Tetragrammaton. The count is correct if one considers only Haggai and Malachi and also allows Elohim as a Name.
²¹² Those mentioned in Nehemiah 10.
²¹³ All 93 vessels are only needed on the first day of Tabernacles.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:5
[Jerusalem Talmud Chagigah 3:8:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Jerusalem%20Talmud%20Chagigah/r/3:8:5)

רִבִּי שִׁילֹה דִכְפַר תַּמַּרְתָּה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. טַעֲמֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי לִיעֶזֶר וְצִפִּיתָ אוֹתוֹ זָהָב טָהוֹר וגו׳. הַתּוֹרָה קָרָאת אוֹתוֹ קַרְקַע. עַד כְּדוֹן מִזְבַּח הַזָּהָב. מִזְבַּח הָעוֹלָה מְנַיִין. וְדִין הוּא. מָה אִם מִזְבַּח הַזָּהָב שֶׁהוּא אַמָּה עַל אָמַּה אַתְּ אָמַר קַרְקַע. מִזְבַּח הָעוֹלָה שֶׁהוּא חָמֵשׁ עַל חָמֵשׁ לֹא כָל שֶׁכֵּן. אִית דְּבָעֵי מֵימַר. רָבוּעַ רָבוּעַ. מַה כָאן קַרְקַע אַף כָּאן קַרְקַע. אָמַר רִבִּי הִילָא. טַעֲמוֹן דְּרַבָּנִן. הַמִּזְבֵּחַ עֵץ שָׁלֹשׁ אַמּוֹת גּוֹבַה וגו׳. הַתּוֹרָה קָרָאת אוֹתוֹ מִיטַּלְטֵל. עַד כְּדוֹן מִזְבַּח הָעוֹלָה. מִזְבַּח הַזָּהָב מְנַיִין. וְדִין הוּא. מָה אִם מִזְבַּח הָעוֹלָה שֶׁהוּא חָמֵשׁ עַל חָמֵשׁ אַתְּ אָמַר מִיטַּלְטֵל. מִזְבַּח הַזָּהָב שֶׁהוּא אַמָּה עַל אָמַּה לֹא כָל שֶׁכֵּן. אִית דְּבָעֵי מֵימַר. רָבוּעַ רָבוּעַ. מַה כָאן מִיטַּלְטֵל אַף כָּאן מִיטַּלְטֵל. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן מְצוּפִּין. לֹא צִיפּוּי שֶׁהוּא עוֹמֵד מַחְמָתוֹ הוּא. לֹא כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה. כְּעוֹבִי דֵינַר גּוֹרְדִּיָינוֹן הָיָה בוֹ. אָמַר רִבִּי לָא. לִמְלַכְתּוֹ אֵינוֹ עוֹמֵד מַחְמָתוֹ הוּא. וְאַתָיָיא כַיי דְאָמַר רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. וְעָשִׂיתָ מִזְבֵּחַ מִקְטַר קְטוֹרֶת אֵין כָתוּב כָּאן אֶלָּא מַקְטִר קְטוֹרֶת. הַמִּזְבֵּחַ הָיָה מַקְטִיר אֶת הַקְּטוֹרֶת. וִיהֵא כְטַבֻּלָה שֶׁהִיא עֲשׂוּיָה לִילֵךְ וּלְהַנִיחַ. לֹא כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי אִמִּי בְשֵׁם רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. הַשּׁוּלְחָן לָמָּה טָמֵא. לֹא מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמּוֹצִיאִין אוֹתוֹ וּמַרְאִין אוֹתוֹ לְעוֹלֵי רְגָלִים. וְזֶה לֹא בִמְקוֹמוֹ הוּא עוֹמֵד. אַף זֶה שִׁימֵּשׁ כֶּלִי בַמִּקְדָּשׁ. וִיהֵא טָהוֹר. וְלָמָּה טָמֵא. אָמַר רִבִּי מָנָא. כַּיי דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. שָׁלשׁ מַשְׁפֵּלוֹת הֵן. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמִּשְׁתַּמְּשִׁין בָּהּ עַל גַּב חֲבִילֶיהָ. וְכָא מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמִּשְׁתַּמְּשִׁין בּוֹ עַל גַּב חֲבִילָיו.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Shiloh from Kefar-Tamarta in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: The reason of Rebbi Eliezer: *And you shall cover it with pure gold*²¹⁴. 30:3., etc. The Torah called it real estate²¹⁵. So far the golden altar. From where the altar of the elevation sacrifices? It is a logical argument. Since the golden altar which is one cubit square is called real estate, the altar of elevation sacrifices which is five cubits square not so much more? Some want to say, *square, square*²¹⁶30:3 (the golden altar), 27:1 (the brass altar).. Since here it is real estate, also there it is real estate. Rebbi Hila said, the reason of the rabbis²¹⁷, *the altar is of wood, three cubits its height*²¹⁸. 41:22. The altar there is called “table”, a movable implement., etc. The Torah called it movable²¹⁹. So far the altar of the elevation sacrifices. From where the golden altar? It is a logical argument. Since the the altar of the elevation sacrifices which is five cubit square is called soil, the golden altar which is one cubit square not so much more? Some want to say, *square, square*. Since here it is movable, also there it is movable. “But the Sages say, because they are covered.” But is it not cover which stands because of it²²⁰? Did not Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish say in the name of Rebbi Hoshaia: Its thickness was that of a Gordian denar²²¹ Rebbi La said, for its purpose it does not stand because of it²²². This parallels what Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, *you shall make an altar for incense smoke*²²³. 30:1. is not written here but *burning incense*; the altar was burning the incense²²⁴. But is it not like a table¹. made to be moved and deposited? Does not Rebbi Immi say in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: why is the table impure²²⁵? Not because one was removing it and showing it to the pilgrims²²⁶? But this one remains in its place. It also served as a vessel in the Sanctuary. Then it should be pure, why is it impure²²⁵? Rebbi Mana said, as what we have stated there,²²⁷24:9. “there are three baskets²²⁸”. Rebbi Ze`ira said, because one uses it for its bales; so also here one uses it for its bales²²⁹.

footnotes:
²¹⁴ Ex
²¹⁵ Since the Torah mentions its roof and its walls, it is described as a house.
²¹⁶ Ex.
²¹⁷ These rabbis are not mentioned in the Mishnah. The argument is that the Sages mentioned in the Mishnah could use R. Eliezer’s argument in the inverse direction to establish their rule.
²¹⁸ Ez
²¹⁹ In the Torah both altars are movable, to be carried travelling in the desert.
²²⁰ If the cover could not stand alone it cannot be separated from the implement it covers which is a rectangular box of wood, enclosing a volume and therefore susceptible of impurity.
²²¹ The only honest gold denar minted during the military anarchy (in the 240’s by Gordianus III.) The implication is that the gold cover could stand by itself; the objection cannot be sustained.
²²² The previous argument can be reinforced; the gold is the essential carrier of the altar and the wood is ancillary.
²²³ Ex
²²⁴ No fire was used on the golden top of the altar (which if used would have melted the top in no time). The golden top transformed the incense into smoke.
¹ Latin tabula
²²⁵ In all this arguments, “pure” means “not susceptible to impurity” and “impure” “able to become impure”.
²²⁶ The table was not fixed; it cannot be considered a fixed part of the building. In addition, the rim around the table makes it a container which is “impure”. But once a permanent Temple was built, the altars are fixed and should be “pure” as fixtures of the building.
²²⁵ In all this arguments, “pure” means “not susceptible to impurity” and “impure” “able to become impure”.
²²⁷ Mishnah Kelim
²²⁸ A basket for manure may become impure by body fluids, a box for straw only becomes impure by the impurity of the dead, a cover for camels is pure.
²²⁹ Since the Mishnah classifies the baskets by their use, also here the altar has to be classified by the “impure” incense.