## Jerusalem Talmud Terumot Chapter 10

###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:1
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**משנה:** בָּצָל שֶׁנְּתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עֲדָשִׁים אִם שָׁלֵם מוּתָּר. אִם חִיתְּכוֹ בְּנוֹתֵן טַעַם. וּשְׁאָר כָּל הַתַּבְשִׁיל בֵּין שָׁלֵם בֵּין מְחוּתָּךְ בְּנוֹתֵן טַעַם. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה מַתִּיר בְּצַחֲנָה שֶׁאֵינוֹ אֶלָּא לִיטּוֹל אֶת הַזּוֹהֲמָה. תַּפּוּחַ שֶׁרִיסְּקוֹ וּנְתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עִיסָּה וְחִימִיצָהּ הֲרֵי זוֹ אֲסוּרָה. שְׂעוֹרִים שֶׁנָּפְלוּ לְתוֹךְ הַבּוֹר שֶׁל מַיִם אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁהִבְאִישׁוּ מֵימָיו מוּתָּרִין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** An onion which one added to lentils, if whole it is permitted, if cut up it depends on transferring taste¹. Any other cooked food, whether whole or cut up, depends on transferring taste. Rebbi Jehudah permits in anchovies² 2:20) or mishnaic “small salted fish in brine” (Mishnah *Nedarim* 5:5), Arabic צחן. Maimonides chooses the first alternative, R. Simson the second. One has to wonder that the medical doctor Maimonides would think of saving spoiled food.
If an entire onion of heave is put into the brine to absorb impurities, the anchovies remain profane according to R. Jehudah. where it only serves to remove pollutants.
If a mashed apple¹³ is added to dough and it soured, [the dough] is forbidden⁴. But if barley grains fell into a cistern of water, even though they made it stink, [the water] is permitted¹⁴.

footnotes:
¹ Profane onion in cooked but cold heave lentils; if the heave changes the taste of the profane food everything has to be eaten by a Cohen under the rules of heave. Otherwise, the profane remains profane and permitted to everybody.
² In translation and interpretation, one has the choice between biblical “stinking dish” (Joel
¹³ The heave apple’s influence makes the entire profane dough change nature; even if the amount of apple is negligible, its action is not and it cannot be disregarded.
⁴ In that case, the lentils have to be eaten by a Cohen in purity. In all these discussions, “forbidden” means forbidden to the layman and the impure.
¹⁴ Since anything that destroys the taste does not make forbidden.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:2
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**הלכה:** בָּצָל שֶׁנְּתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עֲדָשִׁים כו׳. רִבִּי חִזְקִיָּה רַב אָחָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי בָּא בַּר מָמָל מַתְנִיתִין בְּשֶׁהוֹצִיאוּ עֲדָשִׁים מֵימֵיהֶן שֶׁעֲדָשִׁים צוֹפְדּוֹת אוֹתוֹ שֶׁלֹּא יִבְלַע. וּכְמַה דְאַתְּ אָמַר עֲדָשִׁים צוֹפְדוֹת אוֹתוֹ שֶׁלֹּא יִבְלַע. וְדִכְוָותָהּ עֲדָשִׁים צוֹפְדוֹת אוֹתוֹ שֶׁלֹּא יִתֵּן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** “An onion which one added to lentils,” etc. Rebbi Ḥizqiah, Rav Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Abba bar Mamal³ said, our Mishnah [in case] after the lentils lost their sap; [then] the lentils shrink it so it will not absorb [any taste]. (As you say, lentils shrink it so it will not absorb.) Similarly, lentils shrink it so it will not give.

footnotes:
³ This paragraph is a shortened version of the discussion in Chapter 9, Halakhah 4, Notes 41–46. The sentence in parentheses is superfluous. Its text follows the Rome ms. Venice and Leyden read: אמר אמר.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:3
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מַתְנִיתִין בְּבָצָל שֶׁל חוּלִין שֶׁנְּתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עֲדָשִׁין שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה. אֲבָל בְּבָצָל שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה שֶׁנְּתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עֲדָשִׁין שֶׁל חוּלִין לֹא בְדָא. בְּיָבֵשׁ אֲבָל בְּלַח אָסוּר. בְּבָצָל אֲבָל בְּקֵפַלּוֹטוֹת בֵּין לַח בֵּין יָבֵשׁ בֵּין שָׁלֵם בֵּין מְחוּתָּךְ אָסוּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
The Mishnah speaks about a profane onion which he put into heave lentils; but not the case of a heave onion put into profane lentils⁴. If it is dry, but moist is forbidden. An onion, but leeks are forbidden moist or dry, entire or cut up.

footnotes:
⁴ In that case, the lentils have to be eaten by a Cohen in purity. In all these discussions, “forbidden” means forbidden to the layman and the impure.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:4
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הֶעֱבִיר פְּטוּמָתוֹ כִמְחוּתָּךְ הוּא. הָיוּ שְׁנַיִם שְלֹשָׁה קְטַנִּים כִּמְחוּתָּכִין הֵן. הָדָא דְתֵימַר בְּשֶׁאֵין קְלִיפָתוֹ הַחִיצוֹנָה כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן טַעַם. אֲבָל אִם יֵשׁ בִּקְלִיפָה הַחִיצוֹנָה כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן טַעַם אָסוּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
If he removed the tip⁵ it is as if cut up. If there were two or three small ones, they are as if cut up. Only if the outer shell does not transmit taste⁶. But if the outer shell transmits taste, it is forbidden.

footnotes:
⁵ Of the onion.
⁶ The onion mentioned in the Mishnah is dry, with an inert brown outer skin. Green onions are like leeks.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:5
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תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן דָּגִים שֶׁנִּתְבַּשְּׁלוּ עִם הַקֵּפַלּוֹטוֹת שֶׁל מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי וְהִשְׁבִיחוּ הַשֶּׁבַח לְפִי חֶשְׁבּוֹן. אָמַר רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה מַתְנִיתִין דְּלֹא כְרִבִּי יוּדָה דְּתַנִּינָן רִבִּי יוּדָה מַתִּיר בְּצַחֲנָה שֶׁאֵינָהּ אֶלָּא לִיטּוֹל אֶת הַזּוֹהֲמָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There⁷ 2:1., we have stated: “If fish improved in value when cooked with leeks of second tithe, the increase is proportional⁸ and the fish *b* before cooking but now the whole is worth *c**a*+*b*, then some of the proceeds of the dish, *ac/*(*a+b*), has to be used to buy food to be consumed according to the rules of second tithe..” Rebbi Hoshaia said, that Mishnah does not follow Rebbi Jehudah, since we have stated: “Rebbi Jehudah permits in anchovies where it only serves to remove pollutants⁹.”

footnotes:
⁷ Mishnah Ma‘aser Šeni
⁸ If the leeks were worth a
⁹ Even though cleaned anchovies in brine fetch more on the market than uncleaned ones.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:6
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רַבָּנִין דְּקַיְסָרִין בְּעָיָין. וְהָדָא דְאָמַר רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן כָּל הָאִיסּוּרִין מְשַׁעֲרִין אוֹתָן כִּילּוּ בָּצָל כִּילוּ קֵפַלּוֹט דְּלֹא כְרִבִּי יוּדָה. מוֹדֵי רִבִּי יוּדָה בְּבָצָל שֶׁל הֶקְדֵּשׁ וּמוֹדֵה רִבִּי יוּדָה בְּבָצָל שֶׁל עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
The rabbis of Caesarea asked: The saying of Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan¹⁰ 2:1 (fol. 53b), *Orlah* 1:4 (fol. 61a), 2:6 (fol. 62b), *Nazir* 6:1 (fol. 54d), 6:10 (fol. 55b). It is quoted in Babli *Ḥulin* 97b where the more lenient standard of 1 part forbidden in 61 permitted is established., that all forbidden [food] is estimated as if it were onion, as if it were leeks¹¹, does this contradict Rebbi Jehudah¹²? Rebbi Jehudah will agree regarding an onion of the Temple or an onion of idol worship.

footnotes:
¹⁰ This Yerushalmi standard is quoted in Ma‘aser Šeni
¹¹ Forbidden food that fell into permitted is permitted if the taste of the forbidden food could not be tasted in the permitted, assuming the forbidden items were onion or leeks.
¹² Since R. Jehudah allows the use of heave onion to improve non-heave fish.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:7
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תַּפּוּחַ שֶׁרִיסְּקוֹ וּנְתָנוֹ לְתוֹךְ עִיסָּה וְחִימִיצָהּ הֲרֵי זוֹ אֲסוּרָה. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי יוֹסֵי מַתִּיר. רִבִּי אָחָא רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֶן חֲנִינָה מַה פְלִיגִין בִּמְחַמֵּץ בְּמֵימָיו אֲבָל בִּמְחַמֵּץ בְּגוּפוֹ מוּתָּר. כְּמַה דְּרִבִּי יוֹסֵי אָמַר תַּמָּן אֵין חִימּוּצוֹ חִימּוּץ בָּרוּר. כֵּן הוּא אוֹמֵר הָכָא אֵין תַּבְשִׁילוֹ תַּבְשִׁיל בָּרוּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
¹⁵ 3, fol. 5d. The text is also in *Ḥallah* 1:1 (fol. 57a), *Pesaḥim*2:4 (fol. 29b).“If a mashed apple is added to dough which soured, [the dough] is forbidden” It was stated¹⁶ 36a/b. According to the Yerushalmi it is not clear whether what is induced by fruit juice falls under the legal category of “to turn sour;” this is the position of the Babli in *Menaḥot* 54a. In any case, the quote here cannot be from the Tosephta.: Rebbi Yose permits it. Rebbi Aḥa, Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina: They disagree when it becomes sour from the juice [of the apple]. But if it becomes sour from its solid substance it is permitted¹⁷. Just as Rebbi Yose says there¹⁸. R. Yose will not agree that what happens if a dough is kneaded with pure apple juice is souring; therefore he holds that mixing dough with apple juice can have no legal consequences., its souring is not clearly souring, so he says here¹⁹ 3:3: “One may not put an egg next to the samowar [that it should become a soft-boiled egg on the Sabbath] and one may not break it on [hot, exposed to the sun] towels [to make a fried egg on the Sabbath], but Rebbi Yose permits it.”, its cooking is not clearly cooking.

footnotes:
¹⁵ The main place of the paragraph is in Šabbat
¹⁶ In Tosephta 8:9, the language is: “Rebbi Yose says, what is induced by [the apple] is not souring.” This is the position of the Babli in Pesaḥim
¹⁷ Even the anonymous Sages admit that dry mixing of a mashed apple with flour will not induce souring.
¹⁸ Here in Terumot
¹⁹ Mishnah Šabbat


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:1:8
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כָּל נוֹתְנֵי טַעַם בֵּין לִשְׁבָח בֵּין לִפְגָּם אָסוּר דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי מֵאִיר. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר לִשְׁבָח אָסוּר לִפְגָּם מוּתָּר. אָמָר רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ מַה פְלִיגִין בְּשֶׁהִשְׁבִּיחַ וְאַחַר כָּךְ פָּגַם. אֲבָל פָּגַם וְאַחַר כָּךְ הִשְׁבִּיחַ אַף רִבִּי מֵאִיר מוֹדֶה. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר לֹא שַׁנְיָיה הִיא פָגַם הִיא הִשְׁבִּיחַ. הִיא הִשְׁבִּיחַ הִיא פָגַם הִיא הַמַּחְלוֹקֶת. תַּמָּן תַּנִינָן שְׂעוֹרִים שֶׁנָּפְלוּ לְתוֹךְ בּוֹר שֶׁל מַיִם אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁהִבְאִישׁוּ מֵימָיו מֵימָיו מוּתָּרִין. הָדָא מַתְנִיתִין מַה הִיא. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר בְמַחְלוֹקֶת. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּי רִבִּי בּוּן אָמַר אִילֵּין שְׁמוּעָתָא הָכָא. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בְמַחְלוֹקֶת. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“²⁰Everything that can be smelled is forbidden²¹, whether it improves or spoils, the words of Rebbi Meїr. Rebbi Simeon says, if it improves it is forbidden, if it spoils it is permitted.” Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish²² said, in what do they disagree? If it first improved but then spoiled. But if it spoiled and later improved, even Rebbi Meїr will agree. Rebbi Joḥanan said, there is no difference whether it spoiled and improved or improved and spoiled, it is a disagreement. There²³., we have stated: “If barley grains fell into a cistern of water, even though they made it stink, the water is permitted.” What is the status of that Mishnah? Rebbi Joḥanan said it is a disagreement; Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said it is the opinion of everybody. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said this tradition here²⁴: Rebbi Joḥanan said it is a disagreement; Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said it is the opinion of everybody.

footnotes:
²⁰ Tosephta 8:9, in slightly different wording. The main source of this paragraph is Orlah 2:5 (fol. 62a); a slightly shortened version is in Avodah Zarah 5:3 (fol. 44d); Babli Avodah Zarah 67b/68a.
²¹ If forbidden food is mixed with permitted food, the mixture is forbidden as long as the forbidden substance changes the taste of the food. According to R. Simeon, whose opinion is the majority opinion in the Babli, this holds only if the admixture does not spoil the taste of the permitted food.
²² In the Babli, that author is Ulla (Rebbi La).
²³ Here, in Terumot
²⁴ He refers to the Mishnah, not the Tosephta.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:1
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**משנה:** הָרוֹדֶה פַת חַמָּה וּנְתָנָהּ עַל פִּי חָבִית שֶׁל יַיִן שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה רִבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹסֵר וְרִבִּי יְהוּדָה מַתִּיר. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי מַתִּיר בְּשֶׁל חִטִּים וְאוֹסֵר בְּשֶׁל שְׂעוֹרִים מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהַשְּׂעוֹרִים שׁוֹאֲבוֹת. תַּנּוּר שֶׁהִסִּיקוֹ בְּכָמוֹן שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה וְאָפָה בוֹ אֶת הַפַּת הַפַּת מוּתָּר שֶׁאֵין טַעַם כָּמוֹן אֶלָּא רֵיחַ כָּמוֹן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** If somebody takes hot pitta bread out of the oven and deposits it on the mouth of an amphora of heave wine²⁵, Rebbi Meїr forbids²⁶ and Rebbi Jehudah permits. Rebbi Yose permits in the case of wheat and forbids in the case of barley because barley absorbs²⁷.
If an oven was heated with heave cumin and one baked bread in it, the bread is permitted since it absorbs not the taste of cumin but the smell⁴⁰ of cumin.

footnotes:
²⁵ The hot flat bread absorbs the taste of the wine.
²⁶ For the lay person and the impure.
²⁷ It absorbs smells and particles.
⁴⁰ In contrast to taste, smell is considered immaterial.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:2
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**הלכה:** אָמַר רִבִּי זְעִירָא בְּעוֹן קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יַנַּאי נְתָנוֹ עַל פִּי מְגוּפַת חָבִית מַהוּ. אָמַר לוֹן יַגִּיד עָלָיו רֵיעוֹ. מַהוּ יַגִּיד עָלָיו רֵיעוֹ. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי כְּהָדָא דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן חָבִית מְלֵיאָה פֵירוֹת וּנְתוּנָה לְתוֹךְ הַמַּשְּׁקִין אוֹ שֶׁמְּלֵיאָה מַשְׁקִין וּנְתוּנָה לְתוֹךְ הַפֵּירוֹת. כְּמַה דְאַתְּ אָמַר תַּמָּן וְהוּא שֶׁיְּהֵא הַמַּשְׁקִין נוֹגְעִין בְּחָבִיּוֹת. וְהָכָא וְהוּא שֶׁתְּהֵא כִכָּר נוֹגַעַת בִּמְגוּפָה. אָמַר רִבִּי מָנָא וּמִינָהּ כְּמַה דְתֵימָא וְהוּא שֶׁיְּהוּ מַשְׁקִין נוֹגְעִין בְּחָבִיּוֹת עַצְמָהּ. וְאַף הָכָא וְהוּא שֶׁתְּהֵא כִכָּר נוֹגַעַת בִּמְגוּפָה עַצְמָהּ. מִילְתֵיהּ אָמַר אֲפִילוּ בְצוֹנֶנֶת. אָמַר רִבִּי בָא בְּצוֹנֶנֶת הֲוָה עוּבְדָא. וְהָא תַנִּינָן חַמָּה. אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא שֶׁלֹֹּא תֹאמַר הוֹאִיל וְהַהֶבֶל כּוֹבֵשׁ יְהֵא מוּתָּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Rebbi Zeїra said, they asked before Rebbi Yannai: What [are the rules] if he put it on the plug²⁸ of the amphora? He said to them (*Job* 36:33): “Its neighbor²⁹ will inform about it.” What means, “its neighbor will inform about it”? Rebbi Yose said, that which we have stated there³⁰ 3:2–3: “2. An amphora full of fruits added to fluids, or one full of fluids added to fruits; if they absorbed, all those which absorbed are prepared. They spoke about water, wine, and vinegar, but the rest of the fluids are pure. R. Neḥemiah declares legumes pure because legumes do not absorb. 3. If somebody takes hot pitta bread out of the oven and deposits it on the mouth of an amphora of wine, Rebbi Meїr declares it impure but Rebbi Jehudah declares it pure. Rebbi Yose declares it pure in the case of wheat and impure in the case of barley because barley absorbs.”
For preparation of solid food for impurity, cf. *Demay*, Chapter 2, Note 141. For the impurity of fluids, *Demay*, Chapter 2, Notes 136–137.
The amphora contains fruit not prepared for impurity. Since the walls of a clay amphora are porous, the fruits inside (or outside) may get moist. Since human action puts the amphora into the fluid, the moisture prepares for impurity. This applies only to water and wine; the rest of the impure fluids (olive oil, date honey, and human body fluids) are viscous and do not penetrate a clay wall. In Mishnah 3, the wine is impure. Bread, being made with water, is always prepared for impurity. R. Meїr holds that the bread will receive the taste of the wine by absorbing particles evaporated from the wine. Since he holds that all smells transfer prohibitions and impurity, the bread must be impure.: “An amphora full of fruits added to fluids, or one full of fluids added to fruits.” As you say there, only if the fluids touch the amphora; so here only if the loaf touches the plug. Rebbi Mana said, from this it follows as you say there, only if the fluids touch the amphora itself; so here only if the loaf touches the plug itself³¹. His opinion implies, even [if the pitta] is cold. Rebbi Abba said, the problem was about a cold one³². But did we not state “hot”? Rav Ḥisda said, that one should not say since the vapor absorbs it should be permitted.

footnotes:
²⁸ A clay plug that closes the open top of the amphora and forms a barrier for the smell.
²⁹ In the verse, ריע is derived from רוע “to sound the trumpet.”
³⁰ Mishnah Makhšiřin
³¹ Since the plug sits on the narrowest part of the neck of the amphora, in most cases a pitta deposited on top of the rim will not touch the plug. As noted in the next sentence, this argument is valid only if the pitta is almost cold since a hot pitta will sink down and always touch the plug.
³² The original question directed to R. Yannai.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:3
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כְּמָה רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ מַיִם עוֹשִׂין פֵּירוֹת וּמַשְׁקִין אֵין עוֹשִׂין פֵּירוֹת דְּלֹא כְרִבִּי יוּדָה. אֶלָּא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר מַיִם עוֹשִׂין פֵּירוֹת וַחֲסֵירִין וּמַשְׁקִין עוֹשִׂין פֵּירוֹת וְאֵינָן חֲסֵירִין. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר אֵין מַשְׁקִין עוֹשִׂין פֵּירוֹת כָּל עִיקָּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Following Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, water acts on fruits, [other] fluids do not act on fruits, against Rebbi Jehudah³³ 3:2 not quoted in our text, that only water and wine (table wine or vinegar) can influence the status of fruits through a clay wall. Everybody agrees that viscous fluids cannot act through the clay wall. The only problem is wine, which in the anonymous Mishnah 2 is equated with water but in Mishnah 3, R. Jehudah denies that it can act on bread. “Other fluids” here means the fluids excluded in Mishnah 2 plus wine. The statement of R. Simeon ben Laqish seems to point to an inconsistency in the position of R. Jehudah.! But Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish says, water acts on fruits and loses fluid volume, [other] fluids act on fruits and do not lose volume³⁴. Rebbi Jehudah says, [other] fluids do not act on fruits at all³⁵.

footnotes:
³³ This refers to the part of Mishnah Makhširin
³⁴ Since for R. Meїr it is enough that the fruits absorb some of the smell of the wine even if they do not become moistened.
³⁵ Mishnah 2 is R. Meїr’s alone; R. Jehudah would classify wine as “other fluid.” Mishnah 2 is anonymous; therefore practice follows R. Meїr in this instance.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:4
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וּמַה דְאָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן כְּשֶׁהָיִינוּ הוֹלְכִין אֶצֶל רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה רַבָּה לְקַיְסָרִין לִלְמוֹד תּוֹרָה הָיוּ נוֹתְנִין חֲמִטָתֵינוּ עַל גַּבֵּי קִבּוֹטִין שֶׁל מוּרִיֵיס וְהָיוּ טוֹעֲמִין בָּהּ טַעַם מוּרִיֵיס דְּלָא כְרִבִּי יוּדָה. מַהֲלִימִין הָיוּ. וְאֵין אָסוּר מִשּׁוּם גֶּזֶל בַּעַל הַבַּיִת. נוֹטְלִין הָיוּ רְשׁוּתוֹ שֶׁל בַּעַל הַבַּיִת.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
And what Rebbi Joḥanan said, when we went to Caesarea to study Torah with the Great Rebbi Hoshaia, we put our flat-cake on boxes³⁶, cf. *Demay* p. 384. of fish sauce and we tasted there the taste of fish sauce. Is this against Rebbi Jehudah³⁷ 3:2 determines practice following R. Meїr, against our rules that R. Jehudah is the greater authority than R. Meїr.? They put it into the brine³⁸. Is that not forbidden because they rob the owner? They had obtained the owner’s permission.

footnotes:
³⁶ Greek κιβώτιον “box, chest”. For muries
³⁷ Then R. Joḥanan would agree with R. Simeon ben Laqish that Mishnah Makhširin
³⁸ Greek ἁλμεύω “to put into brine”.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:5
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חִיטִּין מִלְּמַטָּן וּשְׂעוֹרִין מִלְּמַעֲלָן כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאֵין חִיטִּין שׁוֹאֲבוֹת כָּךְ אֵין הַשְּׂעוֹרִים שֹׁאֲבוֹת. שְׂעוֹרִים מִלְּמַטָּן וְחִיטִּים מִלְּמַעֲלָן כְּשֵׁם שֶׁהַשְּׂעוֹרִים שׁוֹאֲבוֹת כָּךְ הַחִיטִּים שׁוֹאֲבוֹת.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Wheat below and barley above³⁹; just as wheat does not absorb so the barley will not absorb. Barley below and wheat above, just as barley absorbs so wheat will absorb.

footnotes:
³⁹ This discusses the statement of R. Yose in the Mishnah whom practice has to follow not only because he is the highest authority but also because he gives a reasoned decision partially following each of the opponents in the matter. One deals with a two-layer dough made from two different grains.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:6
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מַהוּ לִצְלוֹת שְׁנֵי שְׁפוּדִין אֶחָד שֶׁל בָּשָׂר שְׁחוּטָה וְאֶחָד שֶׁל בָּשָׂר נְבֵילָה בְּתַנּוּר אֶחָד. רַב יִרְמְיָה אָמַר בְּשֵׁם רַב אָסוּר. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר בְשֵׁם לֵוִי מוּתָּר. פְּלִיגָא מַתְנִיתִין עַל רַב. אֵין צוֹלִין שְׁנֵי פְסָחִים בְּתַנּוּר אֶחָד מִפְּנֵי הַתַּעֲרוֹבוֹת. לֹא אָמְרוּ אֶלָּא מִפְּנֵי הַתַּעֲרוֹבוֹת. הָא שֶׁלֹּא מִפְּנֵי הַתַּעֲרוֹבוֹת לֹא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
May one roast two spits together in one oven⁴¹, one of kosher meat and one of carcass meat⁴²? Rav Jeremiah said in the name of Rav, it is forbidden. Samuel said in the name of Levi, it is permitted. A *baraita*⁴³ 5:11. disagrees with Rav: “One may not roast two Passover sacrifices together in one oven because they could be mixed up⁴⁴. 12:8,9. It is permitted to roast the sacrifice in an oven because the oven serves only to intensify the fire. It is forbidden to roast the sacrifice in a closed oven since then it also would be roasted by the heat stored in the walls..” They said only, because they could be mixed up; therefore, not if they could not be mixed up⁴⁵96a/b. In both Talmudim, practice follows Levi..

footnotes:
⁴¹ This oven has the form of a conical frustrum and is open at the top; the hot air and the particles of meat it might carry escape with the draft through the open top. It is clear that in an enclosed oven one may not cook kosher and nonkosher food together.
⁴² Meat from an animal not killed in a ritually acceptable way.
⁴³ Tosephta Pisḥa
⁴⁴ The Passover sacrifice must be eaten by its subscribers. A person who was not part of the party at the time of slaughter is prohibited from eating of the sacrifice. The Tosephta notes that roasting the two sacrifices together is forbidden only because they should not accidentally be switched but not because particles of one could be carried by the hot air onto the other sacrifice.The Passover sacrifice has to be “roasted over the fire,” Ex
⁴⁵ The parallel is in Babli Pesaḥim


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:7
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מֵי צִתְרִי רַב אָמַר אָסוּר וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר מוּתָּר. אַיְיכִל שְׁמוּאֵל לְרַב מֵי צִתְרִי.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Calamint water, Rav said it is forbidden, Samuel said it is permitted. Samuel served Rav calamint water⁴⁶ has been defined as calamint at the end of *Ševi‘it* 7:2. Calamint is a weed that may be used as spice. Since it is food only by the intent of the person collecting it, it is not subject to heave, certainly not outside the Land. So if somebody in Babylonia gave heave from calamint, any drink made from it is permitted to everybody. We have a principle that if a person thinks of something permitted as forbidden, another person may not serve him what he thinks is forbidden. If Samuel disregarded this injunction, he must have thought that Rav’s position did not merit attention, or he managed to convince Rav of his error..

footnotes:
⁴⁶ Ṣitra


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:2:8
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הָדֵין טַוִויָּה רַב חִיָיה בַּר אַשִׁי בְשֵׁם רַב מַשְׁגֵּר לֵיהּ בְּחָרוּתָה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
That inner part⁴⁷, Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi in the name of Rav: One fires it with dry branches.

footnotes:
⁴⁷ טויה II in Levy’s dictionary is explained from Arabic طُوِي “to be hidden”. This refers back to Rav’s statement that roasting kosher and non-kosher meats together in an open oven makes the kosher meat forbidden. Rav requires even that afterwards the oven be kashered by burning dry branches in the empty oven, to remove any particles of nonkosher meat from the walls. (Explanation of R. M. Margalit.)


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:3:1
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**משנה:** תִּלְתָּן שֶׁנָּפְלָה לִתוֹךְ הַבּוֹר שֶׁל מַיִם בִּתְרוּמָה וּבְמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי אִם יֵשׁ בְּזֶרָע כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן טַעַם אֲבָל לֹא בְעֵץ. וּבַשְּׁבִיעִית וּבְכִלְאֵי הַכֶּרֶם וְהֶקְדֵּשׁ אִם יֵשׁ בְּזֶרֵע וּבְעֵץ כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן טַעַם. מִי שֶׁהָיוּ לֹו חֲבִילֵי תִלְתָּן שֶׁל כִּלְאֵי הַכֶּרֶם יִדָּלֵקוּ. הָיוּ לוֹ חֲבִילֵי תִלְתָּן שֶׁל טֵבֵל כּוֹתֵשׁ וּמְחַשֵּׁב כַּמָּה זֶרַע יֵשׁ בָּהֶן וּמַפְרִישׁ אֶת הַזֶּרַע וְאֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְהַפְרִישׁ אֶת הָעֵץ. אִם הִפְרִישׁ לֹא יֹאמַר אֶכְתּוֹשׁ וְאֶטּוֹל אֶת הָעֵץ וְאֶתֵּן אֶת הַזֶּרַע אֶלָּא נוֹתֵן אֶת הָעֵץ עִם הַזֶּרַע.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** Fenugreek that fell into a water cistern, for heave and second tithe if the seeds are enough to impart taste, disregarding the wood⁴⁸. But for the Sabbatical, *kilaim* in a vineyard, and dedicated seeds, if seeds and wood together impart taste⁴⁹.
If somebody had bundles of fenugreek of *kilaim* from a vineyard, they should be burned. If he had bundles of fenugreek from *ṭevel*⁵⁰ 13a), stalks of fenugreek are not subject to heave and tithes; the obligation of heave starts only after the separation of seeds from the stalks by threshing (“pounding” in the Mishnah.) Therefore, the situation of the Mishnah can happen only if no heave was given but the farmer irregularly gave First Tithe to the Levite before separating the seeds from the stalks. The tithe bundles in the hand of the Levite are now *ṭevel* for Heave of the Tithe; the Levite has to prepare them by pounding and then give the Cohen his due. But if he simply hands one bundle out of ten to the Cohen, it becomes heave and he may not go back on his word and try to take the stalks for himself., he pounds them and computes how much seed this contains and separates the seeds but not the wood. If he separated, he should not say I shall pound, take the wood, and give the seeds but he gives seeds with the wood.

footnotes:
⁴⁸ The wooden parts of fenugreek give less taste than the seeds but may be used as cheap substitute. Nevertheless, the wood is not subject to heave and tithes and cannot be counted in matters of heave and tithes.
⁴⁹ For these, all that can be used as spice must be counted and makes the water forbidden.
⁵⁰ The Yerushalmi holds (Notes 54–57) that, while the wood in itself is not subject to heave and tithes, bundles of fenugreek on the stalk are objects of trade. Therefore, the making of bundles is the end of the harvest and fenugreek is subject to heave and tithes in the hand of the farmer as soon as it was bundled for sale. The Mishnah speaks both of the Geat Heave and Heave of the Tithe.For the Babli (Beẓah


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:3:2
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**הלכה:** וְאֵין עֵץ פּוֹגֵם וְחוֹזֵר וּפוֹגֵם. מַתְנִיתִין כְּמָאן דְּאָמַר נוֹתֵן טַעַם לִפְגָם אָסוּר. וַאֲפִילוּ כְּמָאן דְּאָמַר נוֹתֵן טַעַם לִפְגָם מוּתָּר מוֹדֵי הוּא הָכָא שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר. לָמָּה כָּל דָּבָר שֶׁנָּפְלָה לְתוֹכוֹ תִּלְתָּן הוּא מַשְׁבִּיחַ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Does not the wood spoil repeatedly? Our Mishnah follows him who says that anything that spoils is forbidden⁵¹. But even according to him who says anything that spoils is permitted, he agrees here that it is forbidden. Why? Fenugreek improves anything into which it falls.

footnotes:
⁵¹ If the action is to spoil, why should the water be forbidden at all?


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:3:3
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וְכַמָּה הִיא חֲבִילָה עֶשְׂרִים וַחֲמִשָּׁה זֵירִין. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן וְאַרְבָּעָה מִינְהוֹן מִיטָּה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
How much is a bundle? 25 plants⁵² 3:6). Also, a contract for delivery of bundles of fenugreek requires delivery of bundles of 25 each.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, four to a bed⁵³18:9), it means groups of four..

footnotes:
⁵² In the technical sense, a “bundle of fenugreek” is only a bundle of at least 25 plants (cf. Mishnah Orlah
⁵³ If the expression חבילה is used for impurity of beds (Mishnah Kelim


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:3:4
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מִילְתֵיהּ אָמְרָה עַד שֶׁהֵן בַּחֲבִילוֹת הֵן נִטְבָּלוֹת. מֵעַתָּה וַאֲפִילוּ שִׁבֳּלִים. אֵין מַכְנִיסָן לְכֵן. וַהֲלֹא חַבִּיוֹת מַכְנִסָן לְכֵן. אֵין גִּידּוּלֵיהֶן לְכֵן. וְאֵלּוּ מַכְנִסָן לְכֵן וְגִידּוּלֵיהֶן לְכֵן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
It⁵⁴ implies that they become *ṭevel* in bundles⁵⁵. Why not single ears? One never gathers for that. But may grains be gathered thus⁵⁶? One does not grow for that. But these⁵⁷, one gathers for this, one grows for this.

footnotes:
⁵⁴ The Mishnah.
⁵⁵ Without “threshing.”
⁵⁶ Arabic حبّ “grain”. The commentators are at a loss to connect Hebrew חבית (Arabic خابية) “amphora” in this context.
⁵⁷ Bundles of 25 stalks of fenugreek.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:4:1
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**משנה:** זֵיתֵי חוּלִין שֶׁכְּבָשָׁן עִם זֵיתֵי תְרוּמָה פִּיצּוּעֵי חוּלִין עִם פִּיצּוּעֵי תְרוּמָה פִּיצּוּעֵי חוּלִין עִם שְׁלֵימֵי תְרוּמָה אוֹ בְמֵי תְרוּמָה אָסוּר. אֲבָל שְׁלֵימֵי חוּלִין עַם פִּיצּוּעֵי תְרוּמָה מוּתָּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** Profane olives preserved⁵⁸ with heave olives, if they were broken profanes with broken heaves, broken profanes with whole heaves, or preserves in heave fluid⁵⁹, are forbidden⁶⁰. But whole profanes⁶¹ with broken heaves are permitted⁶⁰.

footnotes:
⁵⁸ Preserved in brine, oil, or vinegar.
⁵⁹ Water in which heave olives were preserved; cf. Halakhah 7.
⁶⁰ For non-Cohanim.
⁶¹ Whole olives are considered as non-absorbing.
⁶⁰ For non-Cohanim.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:4:2
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**הלכה:** אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה זֹאת אוֹמֶרֶת פְּצוּעִין בּוֹלְעִין וּפוֹלְטִין וְחוֹזְרִין וּבוֹלְעִין. שְׁלֵימִין וּבוֹלְעִין וּפוֹלְטִין וְעוֹד אֵינָן בּוֹלְעִין. הָדָא אָמְרָה לֹא לִשְׁבָח וְלֹא לִפְגָם אָסוּר. מַתְנִיתִין דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר נוֹתֵן טַעַם לִפְגָם אָסוּר. וְהָא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אָמַר נוֹתֵן טַעַם לִפְגָם מוּתָּר. כְּהָדָא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר כְּרוּב שֶׁל שִׁקְיָא שֶׁשְּׁלָקוֹ עִם כְּרוּב שֶׁל בַּעַל אָסוּר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא בוֹלֵעַ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Rebbi Jonah said, this implies that broken [olives] absorb, release, and absorb again; whole [olives] absorb, release, but do not absorb again⁶². That means, if it is neither improving nor spoiling it is forbidden⁶³. The Mishnah is Rebbi Simeon’s, for Rebbi Simeon says if its taste spoils, it is forbidden. But did Rebbi Simeon not say, if its taste spoils, it is permitted²⁰ 2:5 (fol. 62a); a slightly shortened version is in *Avodah Zarah* 5:3 (fol. 44d); Babli *Avodah Zarah* 67b/68a.? Following what Rebbi Simeon says⁶⁴, irrigated cabbage preserved with unirrigated cabbage is forbidden because it absorbs.

footnotes:
⁶² It is axiomatic that anything put in a fluid environment absorbs from the environment. But then the fluid also absorbs what is released from the solid food. Since one cannot say that whole olives do not absorb from their environment (they certainly absorb salt from the surrounding brine), one has to say that they release the taste acquired from heave back into the surrounding fluid and then no longer absorb.
⁶³ Since the Mishnah implies that preserving profane and heave olives of equal quality together makes every thing forbidden to laymen.
²⁰ Tosephta 8:9, in slightly different wording. The main source of this paragraph is Orlah
⁶⁴ Mishnah 11. One assumes that the cabbage from the unirrigated field is heave. If it is cooked together with the more expensive and better cabbage from an irrigated garden plot, the result is forbidden to laymen even though the admixture of standard cabbage can only reduce the quality of the garden cabbage.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:1
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**משנה:** דָּג טָמֵא שֶׁכְּבָשׁוֹ עִם דָּג טָהוֹר וְכָל גָּרָב שֶׁהוּא מַחֲזִיק סְאָתַיִם אִם יֵשׁ בּוֹ מִשְׁקַל עֲשָׂרָה זוּזֵי בִּיהוּדָה שֶׁהֵן חָמֵשׁ סְלָעִים בַּגָּלִיל דָּג טָמֵא צִירוֹ אָסוּר. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר רְבִיעִית בְּסָאתַיִם. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר אֶחָד מִשִּׁשָּׁה עֶשְׂרֵה שֶׁבּוֹ. חֲגָבִים טְמֵאִים שֶׁנִּכְבְשׁוּ עִם חֲגָבִים טְהוֹרִים לֹא פָסְלוּ אֶת צִירָן. הֵעִיד רִבִּי צָדוֹק עַל צִיר חֲגָבִים טְמֵאִים שֶׁהוּא טָהוֹר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** If an impure fish⁶⁵ was preserved with a pure fish, if in any keg⁶⁶. containing two *seah* the impure fish weighed ten *zuz* in Judea which are five tetradrachmas⁶⁷ 3(9), “Ten *zuz* in Judea which equal ten tetradrachmas in Galilee.” in Galilee, the sauce is forbidden⁶⁸. Rebbi Jehudah says, a quarter [*log*] in two *seah*⁶⁹ equals 24 *log*, this is 1/196 whereas the first Tanna allows only 1/960 of contamination (Note 81).. Rebbi Yose said, one sixteenth of it⁷⁰ as “it”. Since the *garab* contains 9600 *zuz* (Notes 78–81), 1/16 of it would be 600 *zuz* and the 10 *zuz* given in the Mishnah are 1/60 of this quantity. Therefore, R. Yose asserts that in this case also the mixture is permitted if the kosher food is as least 60 times the quantity of the forbidden..
Impure locusts preserved with pure locusts do not forbid the fluid exuding⁷¹. 11:22. from the latter. ⁷² 7:2 Rebbi Ẓadoq⁷³ testified that the fluid exuding from impure locusts⁷⁴. 11:22. The only Jewish group with a continued tradition of identification of the edible locust is Yemenite Jewry. In Yemen, locusts were only eaten roasted. is pure.

footnotes:
⁶⁵ Any aquatic animal without scales and fins. While the non-kosher fish cannot be eaten and cannot be knowingly preserved with kosher fish, fishsauce, whose biblical status is unclear, may be used if the admixture was not intentional and the forbidden amount is minute.
⁶⁶ In Syriac, גרב is a vessel containing exactly 1 seah
⁶⁷ In Sifra Šemini Parašah
⁶⁸ The contents of the keg are forbidden food. “Sauce” here is not the fluid in which the fish is preserved but the fluid oozing out of the fish.
⁶⁹ Since a seah
⁷⁰ If the forbidden fluid is at least 1/16 of the kosher fish fluid, the mixture is forbidden. In this interpretation, R. Yose does not express a separate opinion on the impure fish itself.According to R. Abraham ben David (whose interpretation is accepted by R. S. Lieberman), R. Yose refers to the garab
⁷¹ This fluid, which can exist only in minute quantities, is disregarded. The list of kosher locusts is in Lev
⁷² This text is also in Idiut
⁷³ A student of the House of Shammai who survived the fall of Jerusalem and became a follower of the rules of the House of Hillel. When Rabban Joḥanan ben Zakkai defected to the Romans, one of the favors he asked from Vespasian was medical attention for R. Ẓadoq. The meaning of R. Ẓadoq’s testimony is explained in the last paragraph of the Halakhah.
⁷⁴ Any locust not on the list of Lev


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:2
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**הלכה:** תַּנֵּי רִבִּי יוּדָה בַּר פָּזִי דְּבַר דְּלָיָה דָּג טָהוֹר טָפֵל שֶׁכְּבָשׁוֹ עִם דָּג טָמֵא מְלִיחַ אָסוּר. וְהָתַנֵּי רִבִּי חִיָיה מַדִיחוֹ וּמוּתָּר. אָמַר רִבִּי מָנָא מָאן דְּאָמַר מוּתָּר בְּשֶׁכְּבָשָׁן שְׁתֵּיהֶן כְּאַחַת. מָאן דְּאָמַר אָסוּר בְּשֶׁכְּבָשָׁן זֶה אַחַר זֶה. תֵּדַע לָךְ שֶׁהוּא כֵן דְּתַנִּינָן אוֹ בְמֵי תְרוּמָה אָסוּר לֹא בִּשֶׁכְּבָשָׁן זֶה אַחַר זֶה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Rebbi Jehudah bar Pazi stated from Bar Delaiah⁷⁵: “Unsalted pure fish preserved with salted impure fish is forbidden”. But did we not state: “He washes it and it is permitted”⁷⁶ 3(6) it is stated: (*Lev*. 11:9) “Those you shall eat,” to include pure fish preserved with impure.
The Babli (*Avodah Zarah* 40a) reports on a disagreement on whether the fluid oozing out from non-kosher seafood is forbidden. It decides that it is forbidden; a decision accepted by R. Zeïra.? Rebbi Mana said, he who said it is permitted, when he preserved them simultaneously; he who said it is prohibited when he preserved them one after the other. You can understand that this is so, since we have stated “in heave fluid⁵⁹ it is forbidden;” [is that] not when he preserved one after the other⁷⁷?

footnotes:
⁷⁵ A similar text is in Tosephta 9:2
⁷⁶ In the Tosephta (9:2), this is stated for the case when the fish are either both unsalted or both salted. In Sifra Šemini Parashah
⁵⁹ Water in which heave olives were preserved; cf. Halakhah 7.
⁷⁷ This really proves only R. Mana’s second statement.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:3
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וְכָל גָּרָב שֶׁמַּחֲזִיק סְאָתַיִם. כַּמָּה סְאָתָה עָבְדָא עֲשָׂרָה וְאַרְבָּעָה לוֹגִין. וְכַמַּה לוֹגָא עֲבִיד תַּרְתֵּין לִיטְרִין. וְכַמָּה לִיטְרָא עָבְדָא מֵאָה זִינִין נִמְצָא כָּל זִין וְזִין אַחַת מִתֵּשַׁע מֵאוֹת וְשִׁשִּׁים. הוֹרֵי רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּי רִבִּי בּוּן בְּעַכְבָּרָא חַד לְאֶלֶף.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“Any keg containing two *seah*”. How much is in a *seah*? [24] (14) *log*⁷⁸ vol. 1, No. 281, reads “24”. A *seah* is 6 *qab*, each *qab* is 4 *log*.. How much is in a *log*? 2 pounds⁷⁹(Jerusalem 1975), 11 read *zin*, 1 *ziz* (reading also of the Rome ms. in the Halakhah), and 12 *zuz* in the Mishnah text. Therefore, *zin* here equals *zuz* in the Mishnah.. How much is in a pound? 100 *zin*⁸⁰ refers to volume and pound to weight, one has to assume that the volume of 1 *log* of water weighs 2 Jerusalem pounds. Under the Julian-Claudian dynasty, a denar (*zuz*) was 1/96 of a Roman 1b. of 12 Troy oz., (about 345 g). It follows from the text that this denar was 1/100 of a smaller pound.. It turns out that each single *zin* corresponds to one in 960⁸¹ 1/9600 of 2 *seah*, and 10 *zin* of impure fish make the 2 *seah* forbidden, it follows that each single *zin* of impure fish contaminates 960 times its weight or volume. (Explanation of R. Solomon ibn Adrat.). Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun instructed at Akhbara⁸²: one in a thousand.

footnotes:
⁷⁸ Both mss. have “14”, but this number is not a divisor of 960. R. Solomon ibn Adrat, Responsa
⁷⁹ Of the 25 mss. collated in The Mishanh with variant readings
⁸⁰ Since log
⁸¹ Since 1 zin =
⁸² The place of R. Yose bar Abun’s academy. For practical purposes, he replaced 960 by 1000.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:4
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רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר חֲנִינָה רוֹבַע צִיר בִּסְאָתַיִם צִיר. וַהֲלֹא אֵין צִיר דָּג טָמֵא [מַצִּיל]. אָמַר רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ חָשְׁבִית יָתָהּ קָרוֹב לְמָאתַיִם. רִבִּי אִילָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר חִיָיה רוֹבַע צִיר בִּסְאָתַיִם דָּגִים וְצִיר. אָתָא עוֹבְדָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יֹאשַׁיָּה וְהוֹרֵי כֵן.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Yose bar Ḥanina: A quarter [*log*]⁸³” which is a dry measure equal to one *log* in liquid measure. But since the Yerushalmi here follows R. Jehudah in the Mishnah, one has to understand “quarter *log*”. of fish sauce in two *seah* of fish sauce⁸⁴. But the sauce of an impure fish never can save⁸⁵ 99b). It never can contribute to the 196 times the permitted food has to exceed the forbidden.! Rebbi Abbahu said, I computed that close to 200⁸⁶ 2, p. 440) accepts an explanation that R. Abbahu determined that the sauce exuded by 10 *zin* impure fish will be about 1/200 of a *garab* of fish and sauce. In the Babli (*Ḥulin* 99b), R. Yose bar Ḥanina implies that the anonymous Tanna also accepts R. Jehudah’s opinion about fish sauce and requires 1/960 only for the fish itself. This also is the position of the Yerushalmi which distinguishes between the impure fish, discussed in the preceding paragraph, and fish sauce.. Rebbi Ila in the name of Rebbi Simeon bar Ḥiyya⁸⁷, a quarter [*log*] of fish sauce in two *seah* of fish and fish sauce. A case came before Rebbi Joshia and he instructed accordingly⁸⁸ 99b) accepts the ruling of R. Jehudah in the interpretation of R. Abbahu which counts only the amount of sauce..

footnotes:
⁸³ Usually, רובע means “a quarter qab
⁸⁴ Fish sauce is permitted if the proportion of impure fish (in an inadvertent contamination) is less than 1 in 196 (replaced for practical purposes by 1 in 200 by R. Abbahu.)
⁸⁵ Fish sauce is forbidden only as “sweat exuding from the fish” (Babli Ḥulin
⁸⁶ R. S. Lieberman (Tosefta kifshutah
⁸⁷ In the Babli, he appears without a title. He was a student of Rav in Babylonia who immigrated into Galilee.
⁸⁸ Practice is decided following R. Jehudah in a lenient way. The Babli (Ḥulin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:5
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וְתַנֵּי כֵן בְּמַה דְבָרִים אֲמוּרִים בִּזְמַן שֶׁשּׁוֹלֶה רִאשׁוֹן רִאשׁוֹן וּמַנִּיחַ לְפָנָיו שֶׁמּוּתָּר לַעֲשׂוֹת כְּסֶדֶר הַזֶּה. אֲבָל אִם הָיָה שׁוֹלֶה רִאשׁוֹן רִאשׁוֹן וּמַנִּיחַ לַאֲחָרָיו אֲפִילוּ יוֹתֵר מִכְּסֶדֶר הַזֶּה מוּתָּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
We have stated thus⁸⁹: “When has this been said? If he scoops out piece by piece and puts them before himself, he has to proceed in the way indicated⁹⁰ of impure fish, all is forbidden. But if he scooped out and threw the impure away, so that at no time there are 10 *zin* of impure fish before him, the fish fluid itself is bland and does not forbid anything even if the total sum of impure fish would have been greater than 10 *zin*. (Explanation of R. S. Lieberman.). But if he scoops out piece by piece and throws them away, even more than was indicated is permitted.”

footnotes:
⁸⁹ A similar text in Tosephta 9:1, in the name of R. Yose ben R. Jehudah.
⁹⁰ If he scooped out from the barrel to prepare the fish as food and found 10 zin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:6
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עַל יְדֵי עִילָּה גְּבוּנְתָה אִיקַלְקֵלַת. שָׁאַל רִבִּי חַגַּיי לְרִבִּי בָּא בַּר זַבְדָּא אָמַר לֵיהּ דָּבָר שֶׁל רַבִּים אֵינוֹ נֶאֱסָר. רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר זַבְדִּי אָמַר רִבִּי יִצְחָק שָׁאַל וְאִילֵּין אִגַּרְתָּא לֹא גַיֻיס לוּקֹס כְּתִיב בָּהֶן וְאַתְּ אָמַר עַל יְדֵי עִילָּה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
⁹¹ 2:10 (fol. 42a). In that text, instead of גבונתא one reads זבונתא “merchandise”. Since both texts speak about food that possibly is forbidden, the reading here seems preferable (but גבונתא possibly does not mean “cheese”.) In *Avodah Zarah*, the paragraph follows a lenient ruling of Rebbi referring to a shipload of wine amphoras. In both cases, it is not clear whether the expression “by some pretext” refers to the previous very lenient statement (and should be translated “as a subterfuge”) or to the following. Therefore, it is left to the reader to decide where or whether to split both paragraphs. By some pretext, cheese was mixed up⁹². Rebbi Ḥaggai asked Rebbi Abba bar Zavda. He said to them, the property of the public cannot be forbidden⁹³ Chapter 8, Note 132. Here it is extended to mixed cargo on a common carrier. This is a subterfuge.. Rebbi Jacob bar Zavdi said, Rebbi Isaac asked: Is not Caius Lycus written on these documents, and you say, by a pretext⁹⁴ 1:1 (fol. 43b) that a divorce document is valid even if its witnesses sign with Roman (Caius) or Greek (Λύκος “wolf”) names. It is stated there that this refers only to divorce documents executed outside the Land since the Jews of the diaspora have Gentile names and, therefore, there is a presumption that the document was signed by Jews. Since without the document the divorced wife could never remarry, it is the duty of the rabbinic court of her home town to find ways to validate a divorce document for which no replacement could be demanded from overseas. This is a situation in which the rabbis would be forced to find pretexts to declare the document valid. However, the statement is an absolute one, valid also for cases in which there is no urgency.?

footnotes:
⁹¹ The same paragraph appears in Avodah Zarah
⁹² The percentages of forbidden cheese could no longer be ascertained for each individual piece.
⁹³ This argument usually is used for public property, such as public baths dedicated to a pagan deity; cf. Ševi‘it
⁹⁴ This refers to a statement in Giṭṭin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:5:7
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הֵעִיד רִבִּי צָדוֹק עַל צִיר חֲגָבִים טְמֵאִים שֶׁהוּא טָהוֹר. מַהוּ טָהוֹר טָהוֹר מִלְּהַכְשִׁיר. הָא לְטַמֵּא אֲפִילוּ כָּל שֶׁהוּא מְטַמֵּא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“Rebbi Ẓadoq testified that the fluid exuding from impure locusts is pure.⁹⁵ Chapter 2, Note 141.” In what respect is it pure? It is pure not to prepare. But to make impure⁹⁶ 7:2.), the most minute amount makes impure.

footnotes:
⁹⁵ Locust fluid is not a fluid that can prepare food for impurity; cf. Demay
⁹⁶ This means, forbidden as food. (Commentary of R. Abraham ben David to Idiut


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:1
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**משנה:** כָּל הַנִּכְבָּשִׁין זֶה עִם זֶה מוּתָּרִין אֶלָּא עִם הַחִיסִּית. חִיסִּית שֶׁל חוּלִין עִם חִיסִית שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה יָרָק שֶׁל חוּלִין עִם חִיסִית שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה אָסוּר. אֲבָל חִיסִּית שֶׁל חוּלִין עִם יָרָק שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה מוּתָּר. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר כָּל הַנִּשְׁלָקִין עִם הַתָּרְדִין אֲסוּרִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן נוֹתְנִין טַעַם. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר כְּרוּב שֶׁל שִׁיקְיָא עִם כְּרוּב שֶׁל בַּעַל אָסוּר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא בוֹלֵעַ. רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר כָּל הַמִּתְבַּשְּׁלִין זֶה עִם זֶה מוּתָּרִין אֶלָּא עִם הַבָּשָׂר. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן נוּרִי אוֹמֵר כָּבֵד אוֹסֶרֶת וְאֵינָהּ נֶאֱסֶרֶת מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהִיא פוֹלֶטֶת וְאֵינָהּ בוֹלַעַת. בֵּיצָה שִׁנִּיתַּבְּלָה בְתַבְלִין אֲסוּרִין אֲפִילוּ חֶלְמוֹן שֶׁלָּהּ אָסוּר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא בוֹלֵעַ. מֵי כְּבָשִׁים וּמֵי שְׁלָקוֹת שֶׁל תְּרוּמָה אֲסוּרִין לְזָרִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**MISHNAH:** All those which are pickled one with the other are permitted⁹⁷ except with bulb plants⁹⁸. Profane bulb plant with heave bulb plant, profane vegetable with heave bulb plant, are forbidden⁹⁹. But profane bulb plant with heave vegetable is permitted.
Rebbi Yose says, all that is cooked in water with white beets is forbidden¹⁰⁰ because it imparts taste. Rebbi Simeon says⁶⁴, irrigated cabbage [preserved] with unirrigated cabbage is forbidden because it absorbs. Rebbi Aqiba¹⁰¹ says, all those which are cooked together are permitted except with meat¹⁰².
Rebbi Yose says, all that is cooked in water with white beets is forbidden¹⁰⁰ because it imparts taste. Rebbi Simeon says⁶⁴, irrigated cabbage [preserved] with unirrigated cabbage is forbidden because it absorbs. Rebbi Aqiba¹⁰¹ says, all those which are cooked together are permitted except with meat¹⁰².
If an egg was treated with forbidden spices, even its yolk is forbidden because it absorbs. Pickling and cooking fluid of heave is forbidden to laymen.

footnotes:
⁹⁷ They do not impart taste.
⁹⁸ Defined in Chapter 9, Note 89.
⁹⁹ For laymen.
¹⁰⁰ For laymen if the beets were heave.
⁶⁴ Mishnah 11. One assumes that the cabbage from the unirrigated field is heave. If it is cooked together with the more expensive and better cabbage from an irrigated garden plot, the result is forbidden to laymen even though the admixture of standard cabbage can only reduce the quality of the garden cabbage.
¹⁰¹ This is the reading of all mss. of the Mishnah. For some reason, the Venice Babli and Mishnah have “R. Jehudah”.
¹⁰² Any meat cooked with vegetables will improve in taste. Therefore, meat cooked with any heave vegetables will become forbidden for laymen.
¹⁰⁰ For laymen if the beets were heave.
⁶⁴ Mishnah 11. One assumes that the cabbage from the unirrigated field is heave. If it is cooked together with the more expensive and better cabbage from an irrigated garden plot, the result is forbidden to laymen even though the admixture of standard cabbage can only reduce the quality of the garden cabbage.
¹⁰¹ This is the reading of all mss. of the Mishnah. For some reason, the Venice Babli and Mishnah have “R. Jehudah”.
¹⁰² Any meat cooked with vegetables will improve in taste. Therefore, meat cooked with any heave vegetables will become forbidden for laymen.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:2
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**הלכה:** אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן לֵית כָּאן נִכְבָּשִּׁין אֶלָּא נִשְׁלָקִין. כָּבוּשׁ [כְּרוֹתֵחַ] הוּא.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
**HALAKHAH:** Rebbi Joḥanan said, one does not speak of pickled [food] but of that cooked in water¹⁰³. Pickled is like being hot¹⁰⁴.

footnotes:
¹⁰³ Since Mishnah 11 records the dissent of Tannaїm from Mishnah 10, the two Mishnaiot must speak about the same procedures.
¹⁰⁴ In the Babli, R. Joḥanan is reported to hold that being preserved in salt is like being cooked over a flame. There, he explains that being pickled is not like being cooked in water (implicitly stated here) but Samuel holds that pickling and cooking in water are the same as far as dietary laws are concerned.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:3
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רִבִּי חֲנִינָה תִּירְתָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה חִסִּית בְּחִסִּית מִין בְּמִינוֹ רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה מַתִּיר וַחֲכָמִים אוֹסְרִין. רִבִּי יָסָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מוֹדִין חֲכָמִים לְרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה בְּבָשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר שֶׁהוּא מוּתָּר. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעִירָא לְרִבִּי יָסָא וְאִילּוּ לֹא אִתְאֲמָרָת הָדָא לֹא הֲוִינָן יַדְּעִין דְּהוּא כֵן. וְדִילְמָא לֹא אִתְאֲמָרָת אֶלָּא מוֹדֵי רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה לַחֲכָמִים בְּבָשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר. אָתָא רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מוֹדֵי רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה לַחֲכָמִים בְּבָשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר. רִבִּי חִינְנָה שָׁמַע לָהּ מִן דְּבַתְרָהּ רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר כָּל הַמִּתְבַּשְּׁלִין זֶה עִם זֶה מוּתָּרִין חוּץ מִן הַבָּשָׂר. הָא בָּשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר אָסוּר. דִּילְמָא אִתְאֲמָרָת אֶלָּא מוֹדִין חֲכָמִים לְרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה בְּבָשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר. רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מוֹדִין חֲכָמִים לְרִבִּי עֲקִיבָה בְּבָשָׂר בְּבָשָׂר שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Ḥanina Tortayya in the name of Rebbi Hoshaiah: Bulb vegetables with bulb vegetables, a kind with itself¹⁰⁵, Rebbi Aqiba permits but the Sages forbid. Rebbi Assi in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: The Sages agree with Rebbi Aqiba that meat with meat is permitted¹⁰⁶. Rebbi Zeїra said to Rebbi Assi: If that had not been said, we would not know that it is so, but maybe it was said as follows: Rebbi Aqiba agrees with the Sages that meat with meat is forbidden¹⁰⁷. Rebbi Abbahu came in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Rebbi Aqiba agrees with the Sages that meat with meat is forbidden. Rebbi Ḥinena understood it from the next Mishnah: “Rebbi Aqiba says, all those which are cooked together are permitted except with meat.” Therefore, “meat with meat is forbidden¹⁰⁸.” Maybe it was formulated as: The Sages agree with Rebbi Aqiba that meat with meat is forbidden. Rebbi Ḥinena: Rebbi Abbahu in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan, the Sages agree with Rebbi Aqiba that meat with meat is forbidden¹⁰⁹.

footnotes:
¹⁰⁵ Heave and profane cooked together.
¹⁰⁶ Following R. Joḥanan’s stand that Mishnah 10 also speaks of cooking different foods together in water, he asserts that cooking meat forbidden to laymen (Note 102) with other meat does not extend the prohibition.
¹⁰⁷ He denies that R. Joḥanan holds that pickling and cooking have the same rules. Since Mishnah 10 only states “all those which are pickled together”, it follows that the same is not true for “all that are cooked together; in particular, not for meat.
¹⁰⁸ Tosephta 9:4.
¹⁰⁹ Liver is so full of blood that only blood oozes out and nothing is absorbed. But the blood will make anything cooked with it forbidden.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:4
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אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי הֲוֵינָן סָבְרִין מֵימַר שֶׁל בַּעַל בּוֹלֵעַ מִן מַה דְאָמַר רַב הוּנָא סַב מִן אִיבָּהּ וְהַב לִפְלוּפָהּ. הָדָא אָמְרָה שֶׁל שַׁקִּי בוֹלֵעַ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Yose said, we were of the opinion that the unirrigated [cabbage] absorbs¹⁰⁸. Since Rav Huna said, take away its growing parts and get moisture; this shows that the irrigated absorbs.

footnotes:
¹⁰⁸ Tosephta 9:4.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:5
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רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בָּעֵי שְׁלָקָהּ בְּחָלָב מַהוּ. רִבִּי זְעִירָא לֹא אָכַל כָּבֵד מִיָּמָיו. שְׁלָקָהּ רִבִּי בָּא וְאוֹכְלָה לֵיהּ. וְאִית דְּאָמַר מְלָחָהּ רִבִּי בָּא וְאוֹכְלָה לֵיהּ.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Jeremiah asked: What is the rule if he cooked it in milk¹¹⁰ 3:10, Note 156, Babli *Baba Batra* 23b. In this case, it proves that the rule of R. Joḥanan ben Nuri leads to an impossible consequence; it cannot possibly be true.? Rebbi Zeїra never in his life ate liver¹¹¹ 111a).. Rebbi Abba cooked it in water and ate it; some say Rebbi Abba salted and ate it.

footnotes:
¹¹⁰ The milk is certainly forbidden because it is mixed with blood. But if R. Joḥanan ben Nuri is correct, the liver did not absorb any milk; when taken out of the milk and washed it might be permitted even though the act of cooking itself is forbidden by biblical law. This is one of the impossible questions of R. Jeremiah, cf. Ma‘serot
¹¹¹ Since he was a posthumous child whose mother died in childbirth, he never could see how his mother handled liver. Since he was a Babylonian, he would have seen that in Babylonia liver was broiled to stop it from oozing blood (Ḥulin


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:6
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חֶלְמוֹן אָסוּר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא בוֹלֵעַ. תַּנִּי בַּר קַפָּרָא חֶלְמוֹן אָסוּר וְכָל שֶׁכֵּן חֲלֵב בֵּיצִים.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
“Yolk is forbidden because it absorbs.” Bar Qappara stated: Yolk is forbidden and certainly egg white.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:7
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יִצְחָק רַבָּה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ בֵּיצִים שֶׁשְּׁלָקָן וּמָצָא בָהֶן אֶפְרוֹחַ בְּנוֹתֵן טַעַם.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Isaac Rabba¹¹² I #452. The Rome ms. has Jacob Rabba; possibly the source had only י״ר as metathesis fromר״י .
An equivalent statement is in Tosephta 9:5; that Tosephta clearly was unknown to the compilers of the Yerushalmi. in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: If eggs were cooked in water and a chick was found in one of them, it is [judged] by the taste it gives¹¹³.

footnotes:
¹¹² It seems that this is a misattribution since R. Isaac Rabba was a student of Rebbi, cf. Z. Frankel, מבוא הירושלמי, p. 105b–106a. It seems that the tradent is R. Isaac (Napaḥa), of the students of R. Joḥanan, or that the source of the statement was Rebbi, not R. Simeon ben Laqish. The text as it stands is confirmed by the quote of this and the following two paragraphs in Or Zarua‘
¹¹³ If the taste of the cooked chick is noticeable in the food it was cooked with, all is forbidden since the chick in the egg was not ritually slaughtered. The definition of “giving taste” is discussed in the next paragraph. An equivalent statement is in Tosephta 9:5. The Yerushalmi does not consider the possibility of having the food tasted by a Gentile; its definition of “giving taste” is purely numerical and independent of any actual taste. Therefore, the question whether a chick inside an undamaged shell can impart any taste is irrelevant.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:8
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רִבִּי זְעִירָא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר אַבָּא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. רִבִּי זְעִירָא אָדָא בַּר גֵּרְשׁוֹן רִבִּי בִּירַיי רִבִּי לֵוִי בַּר פְּלָטָא זָקֵן אֶחָד בְשֵׁם רִבִּי שִׁשִּׁים וְאַחַת אֲסוּרוֹת. שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁתַּיִם מוּתָּרוֹת. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר נַחְמָן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹנָתָן הֵעִיד אָדָא חֲבֵירֵינוּ לְפָנֵינוּ בְּשִׁשִּׁים. וְאָמַר מִי שֶׁיָּבִיא לִי יוֹתֵר מִשִּׁשִּׁים מַכְשֵׁר אָנָא. אָמְרִין לְשִׁמְעוֹן בַּר וָוא אָמַר אַתְּ הָכֵין וְאִינּוּן אָמְרִין הָכֵין. אָמַר לוֹן אֲנָא מַה דְשָׁמְעִית וְאִינּוּן מַה דְשָׁמְעוּן. שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר וָוא אָמַר קוֹמֵי רִבִּי חֲנִינָה [בְשֵׁם רִבִּי חִיָיה רַבָּה עַד שְׁלֹשִׁים וְאָמַר לֵיהּ גִּיזְמָה שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר בָּא בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי חֲנִינָה] מַעֲשֶׂה בָא לִפְנֵי רַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל בְּרִבִּי אָמַר לֵיהּ אֲנָא לֹא מוֹדֵי בְּאַרְבָּעִים וְשֶׁבַע וַאֲנָא מוֹדֶה בְּאַרְבָּעִים וְחָמֵשׁ. רִבִּי חִיָיה בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי חֲנִינָא מַעֲשֶׂה בָא לִפְנֵי רִבִּי וְאָמַר אִית תַּמָּן חֲמִשִּׁין.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Zeїra, Rebbi Simeon bar Abba in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan; Ada bar Gershon¹¹⁷ 98a, he appears as R. Idi bar Gershom; in Or *Zarua‘* as R. Ada bar Gershom. [The reading in the printed Babli, R. Idi bar Idi bar Gershom, is not confirmed by any ms.], Rebbi Birai¹¹⁸ 98a, he appears as R. Biriam., Rebbi Levi bar Plautus¹¹⁹ or Greek πρῶτος “first”, used as name of a first-born son. For other examples of names in Greek corresponding to Jewish but not Greek usage, cf. E. and H. Guggenheimer, *Jewish Family Names* *and Their Origins*, Hoboken NJ 1992; *Etymologisches Lexikon der jüdischen Familiennamen*, München 1996., an elder¹²⁰ 98a, “an elder by the name of R. Jacob.” in the name of Rebbi: 61 are forbidden¹²¹, 62 are permitted. Rebbi Samuel bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Jonathan: Our colleague Ada¹²² testified before us: 60¹²³ 98a. The food is permitted if not more than one part in 60 is forbidden.. He said, if somebody brings before me more than 60, I shall declare it kosher. They said to Simeon bar Abba, you say this, but the others say otherwise! He said to them, I [said] what I heard, they what they heard. Simeon bar Abba said before Rebbi Ḥanina in the name of the elder Rebbi Ḥiyya: Up to thirty¹²⁴: 60. It is impossible to determine the correct version; R. Ḥanina thinks either that 30 is much too small or that 60 is much too large.. He said, an exaggeration. Simeon bar Abba in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina: A case came before Rabban Gamliel ben Rabbi. He said, my father¹¹⁶:אבא . This reading has been translated. did not agree to 47, I agree to 45. Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina: A case came before Rebbi; he asked: Are there 50¹²⁵?

footnotes:
¹¹⁷ He is mentioned only here. In the parallel, Babli Ḥulin
¹¹⁸ He is otherwise unknown. In Ḥulin
¹¹⁹ An Amora of the second generation (רִבִּי לֵוִי בַּר פְּרֹטָא); almost all of his sayings are aggadic and quoted in the old Galilean Midrashim. His father’s name is either Latin Plautus
¹²⁰ In Ḥulin
¹²¹ If one part of the total is forbidden and 60 are permitted, for a total of 61, then everything is forbidden. But if more than 60 are permitted, for a total of approximately 62, then the mixture is permitted. This is practice accepted by the Babli.
¹²² He is the Ada bar Gershon quoted earlier.
¹²³ This dissenting testimony is the Babylonian version. Ḥulin
¹²⁴ In Or Zarua‘
¹¹⁶ In Or Zarua‘
¹²⁵ He would permit a mixture of 50 parts permitted and one part forbidden food.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:9
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רִבִּי חִיָיא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי חֲנִינָה וְהַיֶּרֶק וְהַקְּלִיפִּין וְהַמַּיִם מִצְטָרְפִין. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעִירָא וְאִיסּוּר מִתּוֹכָן. אָמַר רַב הוּנָא קְלִיפֵּי אִיסּוּר מַעֲלִין אֶת הַהֵיתֵר. רִבִּי זְעִירָא הָדָא דְתֵימַר וְהוּא שֶׁשְּׁלָקָן בִּקְלִיפֵּיהֶן שְׁלוּקוֹת בִּשְׁלוּקוֹת אֲבָל שְׁלָקָן בֵּיצִים קְלוּפוֹת בִּשְׁאֵינָן קְלוּפוֹת אוֹ שְׁאֵינָן קְלוּפוֹת בִּקְלוּפוֹת שְׁלוּקוֹת בִּשְׁאֵינָן שְׁלוּקוֹת צְרִיכִין שִׁיעוּר אַחֵר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Ḥanina: Vegetables, shells, and water are counted¹²⁶. Rebbi Zeїra said, even if the inside is forbidden. Rav Huna said, the shells of the forbidden help the permitted¹²⁷. Rebbi Zeїra: That is, if he cooked them in their shells, cooked with cooked. But if he cooked shelled eggs with unshelled in water, or unshelled with shelled, cooked with uncooked¹²⁸, that needs a different measure¹²⁹.

footnotes:
¹²⁶ To establish that there is 45, 47, or 50 times more permitted food than the forbidden chick.
¹²⁷ Even the shell of the egg in which the chick was found is counted as permitted.
¹²⁸ If uncooked eggs are cooked with shelled, it is clear that the shelled had been cooked first, otherwise the shelled eggs would not preserve their shape. Therefore, the meaning of the sentence is: uncooked unshelled eggs with cooked shelled.
¹²⁹ A minimum of 60 times, not 45, 47 or 50.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:10
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גִּיעוּלֵי בֵיצִים מוּתָּרִין שׁוֹרוֹ עִיבַּר וְלֹא יַגְעִיל. בֵּצִים שֶׁהִקְרִימוּ הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ אֲסוּרוֹת מוּזָרוֹת הַנֶּפֶשׁ הַיָּפָה תֹאכַל. מָצָא בָּהֶן דָּם קוֹלֵף מְקוֹם הַדָּם.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Unimpregnated eggs are permitted: (*Job* 21:10) “His steer made pregnant, he will not miss impregnating.¹³⁰” Eggs that started developing¹³¹ are forbidden. Twisted ones, he who likes it may eat them¹³². If one found blood in them¹³³, one shaves off the place of the blood.

footnotes:
¹³⁰ The verse is quoted to show that the verb געל used here does not mean “to loathe” but “to miss impregnation.”
¹³¹ In Babylonian spelling, this would be שהרקימו. The paragraph has a parallel in Tosephta 9:5, but this one sentence is missing there.
¹³² Eggs in which the yolk does not form a ball and which will not develop even if the hen sits on them a long time. These may be eaten by people who are not repelled by them.
¹³³ Boiled eggs.


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:11
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רִבִי זְעִירָא סְלַק מְבַקְּרָה לְרִבִּי חִיָיא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יִצְחָק עֲטוֹשַׁיָיה אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ יְתִיב. אָמַר לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בְּלוּבַּן חֶלְמוֹן אֲבָל בְּלוּבַּן חֶלְבּוֹן מוּתָּר. [הוּא] סָבַר דְּהִיא גַּבֵּיהּ מִן אַבְהָתֵיהּ. אָתָא רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֵּין חֶלְבּוֹן בֵּין חֶלְמוֹן אָסוּר. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי חֲלַפְתָּא בֶּן שָׁאוּל חֶלְמוֹן אָסוּר חֶלְבּוֹן מוּתָּר. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעִירָא הֵן דְּאָמַר בְּחֶלְמוֹן אָסוּר בְּשֶׁנִּמְצָא בִּמְקוֹם זְכָרוּתוֹ שֶׁל חֶלְמוֹן וַאֲפִילוּ חֶלְמוֹן וְהוּא שֶׁנִּמְצָא בִּמְקוֹם זְכָרוּתוֹ שֶׁל מוֹחַ שֶׁמִּמֶּנּוּ אֶפְרוֹחַ נוֹצַר.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
Rebbi Zeїra went to visit Rebbi Ḥiyya¹³⁴, the son of Rebbi Isaac Aṭoshiyya. He found him sitting. He said, they taught only for yolk, but in the egg white¹³⁵ 64b, והוא), לובן is missing altogether but this cannot be used as a witness to the text. it is permitted. He thought that he had heard it from his ancestor. Rebbi Abbahu came in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: Both egg white and yolk are forbidden. Rebbi Ḥalaphta ben Shaul stated: Yolk is forbidden, egg white permitted¹³⁶ is in the Babli, *Ḥulin* 64b, in the name of R. Dositheos ben Patricius.. Rebbi Zeїra said, he who says yolk is forbidden if it is found at the male part of the yolk; this applies even to yolk, but only if it is found on its male part since from there the development of the chick starts¹³⁷.*cit*. 135), the text reads: “Rebbi Zeїra said, what was said about yolk being forbidden [with a blood spot], if it is found at the male part of the yolk.” The second part seems to be another version of the same tradition. The “male part” of the yolk is the place where the yolk meets the thicker part of the egg white strung from a vertex to the yolk..

footnotes:
¹³⁴ A sick-bed visit.
¹³⁵ The language here is a confluence of two texts. לובן means the white, חלבון the egg white. At the start of the Halakhah, egg white was called “egg water” (at least of uncooked eggs.) לובן חלבון is a double expression; in לובן חלמון the first word should be deleted. In the quote in Tosaphot (Ḥulin
¹³⁶ A similar baraita
¹³⁷ This text is badly transmitted; in its present form it is self-contradictory. In Tosaphot (loc


###### Jerusalem Talmud Terumot 10:6:12
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תָּמַּן תַנִּינָן אֵילּוּ פוֹסְלִין וְלֹא מַעֲלִין. הַמַּיִם בֵּין טְהוֹרִין בֵּין טְּמֵיאִין. מֵי כְּבָשִׁים מֵי שְׁלָקוֹת וְהַתֶּמֶד עַד שֶׁלֹּא הֶחֱמִיץ. הָכָא אַתְּ עֲבַד לֵיהּ אוֹכֶל וְהָכָא אַתְּ עֲבִיד לֵיהּ מַשְׁקֶה. אָמַר רִבִּי מָנָא כָּאן בְּקָשִׁין כָּאן בְּרַכִּין. כָּאן בְּאוֹכֶל כָּאן בְּמַשְׁקֶה. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּי רִבִּי בּוּן אֲפִילוּ תֵימַר כָּאן וְכָאן בְּקָשִׁים וְכָאן וְכָאן בְּרַכִּין. נוֹתְנִין טַעֲמִים בִּתְרוּמָה וְאֵין נוֹתְנִין טַעֲמִים בְּמִקְוֶה.

**The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015:**
There¹³⁸ 7:2., we have stated: “The following disable and do not fill¹³⁹, or ritual bath, must contain at leat 40 *seah* of natural water, cf. Chapter 4, Note 112. Fluids other than water have no influence on the *miqweh* but water either drawn in a vessel or used for other purposes in the volume of at least three log makes the *miqweh* unusable. If there were 40 *seah* minus 2 *log* in the *miqweh*, adding 2 *log* of water as described in the Mishnah will not produce 40 *seah* of usable water, it does not “fill”, and the *miqweh* is still deficient.: Water, whether pure or impure¹⁴⁰, pickling water, cooking water, afterwine¹⁴¹ before it became vinegar.” Here¹⁴², you treat it as food, there as fluid¹⁴³, they would neither disable nor fill.. Rebbi Mana said, here when it is thick, there when it is thin. Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, you may even say in both cases thick or thin. Taste counts for heave¹⁴⁴ but not for a *miqweh*.

footnotes:
¹³⁸ Mishnah Miqwa’ot
¹³⁹ A miqweh
¹⁴⁰ In a vessel.
¹⁴¹ Obtained by pouring water over husks of grapes. This is water, not wine.
¹⁴² The only heave from fluids is from wine and olive oil. If the water described in the Mishnah is forbidden for laymen, then it must have the status of solid food.
¹⁴³ If the fluids considered food for heave were also food in regard of the laws of the miqweh
¹⁴⁴ The taste particles in the fluid make it forbidden for laymen, regardless of its status as food.