## Ketubot Daf 11a

###### Ketubot 11a:1
[Ketubot 11a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:1)

אַף אָנוּ נֹאמַר: ״אַיְילוֹנִית״ — דּוּכְרָנִית, דְּלָא יָלְדָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**We too will say: *Ailonit*,** a sexually underdeveloped woman, is a term meaning: Like a **ram [*dukhranit*], because** like a male sheep [*ayyil*] **she does not bear children.**


###### Ketubot 11a:2
[Ketubot 11a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:2)

**מַתְנִי׳** הַגִּיּוֹרֶת וְהַשְּׁבוּיָה וְהַשִּׁפְחָה שֶׁנִּפְדּוּ וְשֶׁנִּתְגַּיְּירוּ וְשֶׁנִּשְׁתַּחְרְרוּ, פְּחוּתוֹת מִבְּנוֹת שָׁלֹשׁ שָׁנִים וְיוֹם אֶחָד — כְּתוּבָּתָן מָאתַיִם. וְיֵשׁ לָהֶן טַעֲנַת בְּתוּלִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** With regard to **a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant, who were ransomed** with regard to the captive, or **who converted** with regard to the convert, **or who was freed** with regard to the maidservant, when she was **less than three years and one day old,** for all of these, **their marriage contract is two hundred** dinars, as their presumptive status is that of a virgin. Even if they were subject to intercourse when they were younger than that age, the hymen remains restored. **And they are** subject to **a claim** concerning their **virginity.**


###### Ketubot 11a:3
[Ketubot 11a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:3)

**גְּמָ׳** אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: גֵּר קָטָן — מַטְבִּילִין אוֹתוֹ עַל דַּעַת בֵּית דִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** **Rav Huna said:** With regard to **a convert** who is **a minor, one immerses him** in a ritual bath **with the consent of the court.** As a minor lacks the capacity to make halakhic decisions, the court is authorized to make those decisions in his stead.


###### Ketubot 11a:4
[Ketubot 11a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:4)

מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן — דִּזְכוּת הוּא לוֹ, וְזָכִין לָאָדָם שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו? תְּנֵינָא: זָכִין לְאָדָם שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו, וְאֵין חָבִין לָאָדָם שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**What is** Rav Huna **coming to teach us?** Is he teaching **that it is a privilege for** the minor to convert, **and one may act in a person’s interests** even **in his absence? We** already **learned** that explicitly in a mishna (*Eiruvin* 81b): One **may act in a person’s interests in his absence, but one may not act against a person’s interests in his absence.**


###### Ketubot 11a:5
[Ketubot 11a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:5)

מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: גּוֹי בְּהֶפְקֵירָא נִיחָא לֵיהּ, דְּהָא קַיְימָא לַן דְּעֶבֶד וַדַּאי בְּהֶפְקֵירָא נִיחָא לֵיהּ,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Huna’s statement was necessary **lest you say:** With regard to **a gentile, licentiousness is preferable for him,** so conversion is contrary to his interests, just **as we maintain that** with regard to **a slave, licentiousness is certainly preferable.** Just as a slave has no interest in assuming the restrictions that come with freedom, in that a freed Canaanite slave is a convert to Judaism, a gentile would have the same attitude toward conversion.


###### Ketubot 11a:6
[Ketubot 11a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:6)

קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן: דְּהָנֵי מִילֵּי גָּדוֹל, דִּטְעַם טַעַם דְּאִיסּוּרָא, אֲבָל קָטָן — זְכוּת הוּא לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Therefore, Rav Huna **teaches us: That applies** only with regard to **an adult, who has experienced a taste of prohibition.** Therefore, presumably he prefers to remain a slave and indulge in licentiousness. **However,** with regard to a **minor,** who did not yet engage in those activities, **it is a privilege for him** to convert.


###### Ketubot 11a:7
[Ketubot 11a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:7)

לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ: הַגִּיּוֹרֶת וְהַשְּׁבוּיָה וְהַשִּׁפְחָה שֶׁנִּפְדּוּ וְשֶׁנִּתְגַּיְּירוּ וְשֶׁנִּשְׁתַּחְרְרוּ, פְּחוּתוֹת מִבְּנוֹת שָׁלֹשׁ שָׁנִים וְיוֹם אֶחָד. מַאי לָאו, דְּאַטְבְּלִינְהוּ עַל דַּעַת בֵּית דִּין?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests: **Let us say** that the mishna **supports** Rav Huna’s statement: With regard to **a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant, who were ransomed** with regard to the captive, or **who converted** with regard to the convert, **or who were freed** with regard to the maidservant, when she was **less than three years and one day old; what, is it not** referring to a case where **they immersed** the minor converts and the maidservants **with the consent of the court?** Apparently, a conversion of that sort is valid.


###### Ketubot 11a:8
[Ketubot 11a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:8)

לָא, הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן: בְּגֵר שֶׁנִּתְגַּיְּירוּ בָּנָיו וּבְנוֹתָיו עִמּוֹ, דְּנִיחָא לְהוּ בְּמַאי דְּעָבֵיד אֲבוּהוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects that proof: **No, with what are we dealing here?** It is **with a convert whose** minor **sons and daughters converted with him, as they are content with whatever their father does** in their regard. However, that does not apply to a child who is converting on his own.


###### Ketubot 11a:9
[Ketubot 11a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:9)

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: הִגְדִּילוּ — יְכוֹלִין לְמַחוֹת. אֵיתִיבֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: הַגִּיּוֹרֶת וְהַשְּׁבוּיָה וְהַשִּׁפְחָה שֶׁנִּפְדּוּ וְשֶׁנִּתְגַּיְּירוּ וְשֶׁנִּשְׁתַּחְרְרוּ, פְּחוּתוֹת מִבְּנוֹת שָׁלֹשׁ שָׁנִים וְיוֹם אֶחָד — כְּתוּבָּתָן מָאתַיִם. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ הִגְדִּילוּ יְכוֹלִין לְמַחוֹת — יָהֲבִינַן לַהּ כְּתוּבָה דְּאָזְלָה וְאָכְלָה בְּגֵיוּתַהּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said:** In any case where minors convert, when **they reach majority they can protest** and annul their conversion. **Abaye raised an objection to his** opinion from the mishna: With regard to **a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant who were ransomed,** or **who converted, or who were freed** when they were **less than three years and one day old, their marriage contract is two hundred** dinars. **And if it enters your mind** to say that when **they reach majority they can protest** and annul their conversion, **do we give her** the payment of the **marriage contract that she** will **go and consume in her gentile** state?


###### Ketubot 11a:10
[Ketubot 11a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:10)

לְכִי גָדְלָה. לְכִי גָדְלָה נָמֵי מְמַחֲיָיא וְנָפְקָא! כֵּיוָן שֶׁהִגְדִּילָה שָׁעָה אַחַת וְלֹא מִיחֲתָה — שׁוּב אֵינָהּ יְכוֹלָה לְמַחוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: She receives payment of her marriage contract **once she has reached majority** and does not protest, but not while still a minor. The Gemara asks: **When she reaches majority too,** is there not the same concern that **she will protest and abandon** Judaism? The Gemara answers: **Once she reached majority** for even **one moment and did not protest, she may no longer protest.** This mishna poses no difficulty to the opinion of Rav Yosef.


###### Ketubot 11a:11
[Ketubot 11a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:11)

מֵתִיב רָבָא, אֵלּוּ נְעָרוֹת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן קְנָס: הַבָּא עַל הַמַּמְזֶרֶת וְעַל הַנְּתִינָה וְעַל הַכּוּתִית וְעַל הַגִּיּוֹרֶת וְעַל הַשְּׁבוּיָה וְעַל הַשִּׁפְחָה שֶׁנִּפְדּוּ וְשֶׁנִּתְגַּיְּירוּ וְשֶׁנִּשְׁתַּחְרְרוּ, פְּחוּתוֹת מִבְּנוֹת שָׁלֹשׁ שָׁנִים וְיוֹם אֶחָד, יֵשׁ לָהֶן קְנָס. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ הִגְדִּילוּ יְכוֹלִין לְמַחוֹת — יָהֲבִינַן לַהּ קְנָס דְּאָזְלָה וְאָכְלָה בְּגֵיוּתַהּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava raised an objection** from a mishna (29a): **These** are the cases of **young women for whom there is a fine** paid to their fathers by one who rapes them: **One who engages in intercourse with a *mamzeret*; or with a Gibeonite woman [*netina*],** who are given [*netunim*] to the service of the people and the altar (see Joshua 9:27); **or with a Samaritan woman [*kutit*].** In addition, the same applies to one who engages in intercourse **with a female convert, or with a captive woman, or with a maidservant,** provided **that** the captives **were ransomed or that** the converts **converted, or that** the maidservants **were freed** when they were **less than three years and one day old,** as only in that case do they maintain the presumptive status of a virgin. In all of these cases, **there is a fine** paid **to their** fathers if they are raped. **And if you say** that **when they reach majority they can protest** and annul their conversion, **do we give her** payment of the **fine that she** will **go and consume in her gentile** state?


###### Ketubot 11a:12
[Ketubot 11a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:12)

לְכִי גָדְלָה. לְכִי גָדְלָה נָמֵי מְמַחֲיָיא וְנָפְקָא! כֵּיוָן שֶׁהִגְדִּילָה שָׁעָה אַחַת וְלֹא מִיחֲתָה — שׁוּב אֵינָהּ יְכוֹלָה לְמַחוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: She receives payment of the fine **once she has reached majority** and does not protest, but not while she is still a minor. The Gemara asks: **When she reaches majority too,** is there not the same concern that **she will protest and abandon** Judaism? The Gemara answers: **Once she reached majority** for even **one moment and did not protest, she may no longer protest.**


###### Ketubot 11a:13
[Ketubot 11a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:13)

אַבָּיֵי לָא אָמַר כְּרָבָא: הָתָם קְנָסָא הַיְינוּ טַעְמָא — שֶׁלֹּא יְהֵא חוֹטֵא נִשְׂכָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye did not state** his objection from the same source **as** did **Rava,** because **there,** in the mishna cited by Rava, it is referring to **a fine,** and in that case **this is the reason: So that the sinner will not profit.** The Sages did not absolve the rapist from payment of the fine merely due to the concern that the woman he raped may ultimately negate the conversion.


###### Ketubot 11a:14
[Ketubot 11a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:14)

רָבָא לָא אָמַר כְּאַבַּיֵּי: כְּתוּבָּה הַיְינוּ טַעְמָא — שֶׁלֹּא תְּהֵא קַלָּה בְּעֵינָיו לְהוֹצִיאָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava did not state** his objection from the same source **as** did **Abaye, as** with regard to **a marriage contract, this is the reason** that the Sages instituted it: **So that** his wife **will not be inconsequential in his eyes,** enabling him **to** easily **divorce her.** As long as this woman does not negate her conversion, she is a Jewish woman and the Sages saw to her interests.


###### Ketubot 11a:15
[Ketubot 11a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:15)

**מַתְנִי׳** הַגָּדוֹל שֶׁבָּא עַל הַקְּטַנָּה וְקָטָן שֶׁבָּא עַל הַגְּדוֹלָה וּמוּכַּת עֵץ — כְּתוּבָּתָן מָאתַיִם, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: מוּכַּת עֵץ כְּתוּבָּתָהּ מָנֶה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** With regard to **an adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl** less than three years old; **or a minor boy** less than nine years old **who engaged in intercourse with an adult woman; or a** woman who had her hymen **ruptured by wood** or any other foreign object, for all these women **their marriage contract is two hundred** dinars, as their legal status is that of a virgin. This is **the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: The marriage contract** of a woman whose hymen was **ruptured by wood is one hundred dinars,** as physically, since her hymen is not intact, she is no longer a virgin.


###### Ketubot 11a:16
[Ketubot 11a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/11a:16)

בְּתוּלָה, אַלְמָנָה, גְּרוּשָׁה וַחֲלוּצָה מִן הַנִּישּׂוּאִין — כְּתוּבָּתָן מָנֶה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to **a virgin** who is either a **widow,** a **divorcée, or a *ḥalutza*** who achieved that status **from** a state of **marriage,** for all these women **their marriage contract is one hundred dinars,**