## Ketubot Daf 42a

###### Ketubot 42a:1
[Ketubot 42a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:1)

מַעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ וּמְצִיאָתָהּ, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא גָּבְתָה, מֵת הָאָב — הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁל אַחִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
By contrast, with regard to **her earnings and** the lost **items** that **she** has **found, although she has not collected** them, e.g., she had yet to receive her wages, if **the father died they** belong **to** her **brothers.** These payments are considered the property of their father, as he was entitled to them before he passed away.


###### Ketubot 42a:2
[Ketubot 42a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:2)

**גְּמָ׳** מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? תְּנֵינָא: הַמְפַתֶּה נוֹתֵן שְׁלֹשָׁה דְּבָרִים, וְהָאוֹנֵס אַרְבָּעָה. הַמְפַתֶּה נוֹתֵן בּוֹשֶׁת וּפְגָם וּקְנָס, מוֹסִיף עָלָיו אוֹנֵס שֶׁנּוֹתֵן אֶת הַצַּעַר! לְאָבִיהָ אִיצְטְרִיךְ לֵיהּ. לְאָבִיהָ נָמֵי פְּשִׁיטָא, מִדְּקָא יָהֵיב מְפַתֶּה, דְּאִי לְעַצְמָהּ — אַמַּאי יָהֵיב מְפַתֶּה? מִדַּעְתָּהּ עֲבַד!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara asks: **What is** the mishna **teaching us? We** already **learned** this in a mishna (*Ketubot* 39a): **The seducer pays three types of indemnity and the rapist** pays **four. The seducer pays** compensation for his victim’s **humiliation and degradation and** for the **fine** the Torah imposes on a seducer. **A rapist adds an additional** payment, **as he pays** compensation for **the pain** she suffered. The Gemara answers: It **is necessary for** the mishna to teach that the money is given **to her father.** The Gemara asks: It **is also obvious** that the money goes **to her father, from** the fact **that a seducer pays** these types of indemnity, **as, if** one claims that the money goes **to her, why does a seducer pay** her at all? After all, **he acted with her consent;** how can she then claim compensation?


###### Ketubot 42a:3
[Ketubot 42a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:3)

עָמְדָה בַּדִּין אִיצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ, פְּלוּגְתָּא דְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן וְרַבָּנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: It **was necessary for** the mishna to mention these cases in order to address the case where she **stood for judgment** before her father died, and then he died before collecting payment. In this case, there is **a dispute between Rabbi Shimon and the Rabbis** as to whether the sons inherit these payments from the father or whether the money belongs to the young woman.


###### Ketubot 42a:4
[Ketubot 42a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:4)

תְּנַן הָתָם: ״אָנַסְתָּ וּפִיתִּיתָ אֶת בִּתִּי״, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״לֹא אָנַסְתִּי וְלֹא פִּיתִּיתִי״. ״מַשְׁבִּיעֲךָ אֲנִי״, וְאָמַר: ״אָמֵן״, וְאַחַר כָּךְ הוֹדָה — חַיָּיב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **We learned** in a mishna **there** (*Shevuot* 36b) that if someone said to another: **You raped** my daughter, **or: You seduced my daughter, and** the other **says: I did not rape and I did not seduce,** to which the father replied: **I administer an oath to you, and** the defendant **said: Amen, and afterward he admitted** that he had raped or seduced the man’s daughter, he is **obligated** both in the payments of a rapist or a seducer as well as an additional one-fifth, and he must bring an offering for swearing falsely that he did not owe the money.


###### Ketubot 42a:5
[Ketubot 42a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:5)

רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן פּוֹטֵר, שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְשַׁלֵּם קְנָס עַל פִּי עַצְמוֹ. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְשַׁלֵּם קְנָס עַל פִּי עַצְמוֹ, אֲבָל מְשַׁלֵּם בּוֹשֶׁת וּפְגָם עַל פִּי עַצְמוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Shimon exempts** him, **as he does not pay** the **fine on his own** admission. The accused individual is not considered to have taken a false oath in denial of a monetary charge because he would not have been obligated to pay the fine on the basis of his own admission of guilt. The Rabbis **said to him: Although he does not pay** the **fine on his own** admission, **indeed he does pay** compensation for **the humiliation and degradation on his own** admission. Consequently, he has denied a monetary claim, and therefore his false oath obligates him to add one-fifth and to bring an offering. This concludes the mishna.


###### Ketubot 42a:6
[Ketubot 42a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:6)

בְּעָא מִינֵּיהּ אַבָּיֵי מֵרַבָּה, הָאוֹמֵר לַחֲבֵירוֹ: ״אָנַסְתָּ וּפִיתִּיתָ אֶת בִּתִּי, וְהֶעֱמַדְתִּיךָ בַּדִּין, וְנִתְחַיַּיבְתָּ לִי מָמוֹן״, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״לֹא אָנַסְתִּי וְלֹא פִּיתִּיתִי, וְלֹא הֶעֱמַדְתַּנִי בַּדִּין, וְלֹא נִתְחַיַּיבְתִּי לְךָ מָמוֹן״, וְנִשְׁבַּע וְהוֹדָה, לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן מַאי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
In light of this mishna, **Abaye raised a dilemma before Rabba:** With regard to **one who says to another: You raped** my daughter, **or: You seduced my daughter, and I made you stand in judgment** for your actions, **and you were found obligated** to pay **me money** but you did not do so, **and** the defendant **says: I did not rape, or: I did not seduce, and you did not make me stand in judgment, and I was not found obligated** to pay **you money, and** the defendant **took an oath** that he was telling the truth **and** subsequently **admitted** his guilt, **according to** the opinion of **Rabbi Shimon, what** is the *halakha*?


###### Ketubot 42a:7
[Ketubot 42a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:7)

כֵּיוָן דְּעָמַד בַּדִּין — מָמוֹנָא הָוֵאי, וּמִיחַיַּיב עֲלֵיהּ קׇרְבַּן שְׁבוּעָה. אוֹ דִלְמָא, אַף עַל גַּב דְּעָמַד בַּדִּין, קְנָס הָוֵי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מָמוֹנָא הָוֵי, וּמִיחַיַּיב עֲלֵיהּ קׇרְבַּן שְׁבוּעָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye explains the two sides of the dilemma: **Since he stood trial** and was found liable, **is** this considered a regular **monetary** obligation, **and** therefore **he is liable to** bring the **offering** for taking a false **oath** to deny a monetary claim? **Or perhaps** one can argue that **although he stood trial** and the court ordered him to pay, the payment **is** in essence **a fine.** Rabba **said to him:** Since he has already stood trial, **it is** considered a regular **monetary** payment, **and he is liable to** bring the **offering of an oath.**


###### Ketubot 42a:8
[Ketubot 42a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:8)

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: יָכוֹל הָאוֹמֵר לַחֲבֵירוֹ ״אָנַסְתָּ וּפִיתִּיתָ אֶת בִּתִּי״, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״לֹא אָנַסְתִּי וְלֹא פִּיתִּיתִי״; ״הֵמִית שׁוֹרְךָ אֶת עַבְדִּי״, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״לֹא הֵמִית״; אוֹ שֶׁאָמַר לוֹ עַבְדּוֹ ״הִפַּלְתָּ אֶת שִׁינִּי וְסִימִיתָ אֶת עֵינִי״, וְהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״לֹא הִפַּלְתִּי וְלֹא סִימִיתִי״, וְנִשְׁבַּע וְהוֹדָה, יָכוֹל יְהֵא חַיָּיב —

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye **raised an objection to** Rabba from the following *baraita*. **Rabbi Shimon says:** One **might** have thought that in the case of **one who says to another: You raped** my daughter, **or: You seduced my daughter, and he says: I did not rape** her, **or: I did not seduce** her, or if he claimed: **Your ox killed my slave, and he says:** It **did not kill** him, **or if his slave said to him: You knocked out my tooth, or: You blinded my eye** and you are therefore obligated to emancipate me, **and he says: I did not knock** it **out, or: I did not blind** your eye, **and he takes an oath but** later **admitted** to the truth of the accusation, one **might** have thought that he **should be liable** to bring an offering for a false oath denying a monetary claim.


###### Ketubot 42a:9
[Ketubot 42a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/42a:9)

תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״וְכִחֵשׁ בַּעֲמִיתוֹ בְּפִקָּדוֹן אוֹ בִתְשׂוּמֶת יָד אוֹ בְגָזֵל אוֹ עָשַׁק אֶת עֲמִיתוֹ. אוֹ מָצָא אֲבֵידָה וְכִחֶשׁ בָּהּ וְנִשְׁבַּע עַל שָׁקֶר״, מָה אֵלּוּ מְיוּחָדִין שֶׁהֵן מָמוֹן, אַף כֹּל שֶׁהֵן מָמוֹן. יָצְאוּ אֵלּוּ, שֶׁהֵן קְנָס.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Therefore, with regard to the offering for a false oath in denial of a monetary claim, **the verse states:** “If anyone sin, and commit a trespass against the Lord **and deal falsely with his neighbor in a matter of a deposit or of a pledge or of a robbery or have oppressed his neighbor, or have found that which was lost and deal falsely with it, and swear to a lie”** (Leviticus 5:21–22). **Just as** all these **matters** listed in the verse **are unique** in **that they are monetary** obligations equal in value to the loss one has caused another individual, **so too,** this *halakha* applies to **all** obligations **that are monetary** claims, which **excludes these** payments of a rapist, a seducer, and the like, **as they are fines.**