## Ketubot Daf 65b

###### Ketubot 65b:1
[Ketubot 65b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:1)

הַאי תַּנָּא שְׁלִיחַ עַרְטִלַאי וּרְמֵי מְסָאנֵי! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: תַּנָּא בִּמְקוֹם הָרִים קָאֵי, דְּלָא סַגִּיא בְּלָא תְּלָתָא זוּגֵי מְסָאנֵי. וְאַגַּב אוֹרְחֵיהּ קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דְּנִיתְּבִינְהוּ נִיהֲלַהּ בַּמּוֹעֵד, כִּי הֵיכִי דְּנֶיהְוֵי לַהּ שִׂמְחָה בְּגַוַּיְיהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**This *tanna*** creates a bizarre situation in which the woman is **left naked but wearing shoes,** as the husband must give his wife shoes three times a year but new clothing only once a year. Abaye **said to him: The *tanna* is standing,** i.e., speaking of, **a mountainous region, in which she cannot do without three pairs of shoes,** as shoes wear out quickly in hilly areas. **And in passing,** the *tanna* **teaches us that he should give them to her on a Festival, so that she will rejoice in them** during the Festival.


###### Ketubot 65b:2
[Ketubot 65b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:2)

וְכֵלִים שֶׁל חֲמִשִּׁים זוּז. אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: חֲמִשִּׁים זוּזֵי פְּשִׁיטֵי. מִמַּאי? מִדְּקָתָנֵי: בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים — בְּעָנִי שֶׁבְּיִשְׂרָאֵל, אֲבָל בִּמְכוּבָּד — הַכֹּל לְפִי כְּבוֹדוֹ. וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ חֲמִשִּׁים זוּז מַמָּשׁ, עָנִי, חֲמִשִּׁים זוּז מְנָא לֵיהּ? אֶלָּא שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ חֲמִשִּׁים זוּזֵי פְּשִׁיטֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **And he** must **give her clothes** with a value **of fifty dinars. Abaye said:** This is referring to **fifty simple [*peshitei*] dinars,** used as the money of the state, which are worth only one-eighth of Tyrian dinars. **From where** did Abaye derive this? **From** the fact **that it teaches: In what** case **is this statement said?** It is **with** regard to **the poorest of Jews. However,** in the case **of a prominent man, all** the amounts are increased **in accordance with his prominence. And if it enters your mind** that the mishna means **literally fifty dinars, from where** would such **a poor man** get **fifty dinars?** How could a pauper afford to give such a large sum to his wife for her clothing? **Rather, learn from this** that the mishna is referring to **fifty simple dinars.**


###### Ketubot 65b:3
[Ketubot 65b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:3)

וְאֵין נוֹתְנִין לָהּ לֹא חֲדָשִׁים וְכוּ׳. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: מוֹתַר מְזוֹנוֹת לַבַּעַל, מוֹתַר בְּלָאוֹת לָאִשָּׁה. מוֹתַר בְּלָאוֹת לָאִשָּׁה, לְמָה לַהּ? אָמַר רַחֲבָה: שֶׁמִּתְכַּסָּה בָּהֶן בִּימֵי נִדָּתָהּ, כְּדֵי שֶׁלֹּא תִּתְגַּנֶּה עַל בַּעְלָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna further states: **And he may not give her new** clothes in the summer, nor worn garments in the rainy season, and the leftover, worn clothes belong to her. **The Sages taught: Leftover sustenance** belongs **to the husband,** whereas **leftover, worn clothes** belong **to the wife.** The Gemara asks: With regard to the statement that **worn clothes** belong **to the wife, why** does **she** need these old clothes? **Raḥava said:** She requires them, **as she covers herself with them during her days of menstruation, so that she does not become repulsive to her husband.** If she wears her normal clothes when she is menstruating, he will later be disgusted by her.


###### Ketubot 65b:4
[Ketubot 65b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:4)

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: נָקְטִינַן, מוֹתַר בְּלָאוֹת אַלְמָנָה לְיוֹרְשָׁיו. הָתָם הוּא דְּלָא תִּתְגַּנֵּי בְּאַפֵּיהּ, הָכָא — תִּתְגַּנֵּי וְתִתְגַּנֵּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said: We have a tradition** that the **leftover, worn clothes** of **a widow** belong **to** the husband’s **heirs.** The reason is that **it is** only in that case **there,** concerning a woman whose husband is alive, that the reasoning **so that she does not become repulsive to her husband** can be applied. Whereas **here,** when he is dead, **let her become repulsive.** There is no need to ensure that she find favor in the eyes of his heirs.


###### Ketubot 65b:5
[Ketubot 65b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:5)

נוֹתֵן לָהּ מָעָה כֶּסֶף וְכוּ׳. מַאי ״אוֹכֶלֶת״? רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר: אוֹכֶלֶת מַמָּשׁ. רַב אָשֵׁי אָמַר: תַּשְׁמִישׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that **he gives her a silver *ma’a*,** and she eats with him from one Shabbat evening to the next. The Gemara asks: **What is** the meaning of the phrase: **She eats,** in this context? **Rav Naḥman said:** It means **literally** that **she eats** with him once a week. **Rav Ashi said:** This is referring to **sexual relations.**


###### Ketubot 65b:6
[Ketubot 65b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:6)

תְּנַן: אוֹכֶלֶת עִמּוֹ לֵילֵי שַׁבָּת. בִּשְׁלָמָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר אֲכִילָה — הַיְינוּ דְּקָתָנֵי ״אוֹכֶלֶת״, אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר תַּשְׁמִישׁ, מַאי ״אוֹכֶלֶת״? לִישָּׁנָא מְעַלְּיָא, כְּדִכְתִיב: ״אָכְלָה וּמָחֲתָה פִיהָ וְאָמְרָה לֹא פָעַלְתִּי אָוֶן״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The mishna states: And she eats with him** from **Shabbat evening** to Shabbat evening. **Granted, according to the one who says** that it means actual **eating, this** explanation **is** consistent with **that which is taught: She eats. However, according to the one who says** that it is referring to **sexual relations, what is** the meaning of: **She eats?** The Gemara explains: It is **a euphemism, as it is written:** “So is the way of an adulterous woman; **she eats, and wipes her mouth, and says: I have done no wickedness”** (Proverbs 30:20).


###### Ketubot 65b:7
[Ketubot 65b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:7)

מֵיתִיבִי, רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אוֹכֶלֶת בְּלֵילֵי שַׁבָּת וְשַׁבָּת. בִּשְׁלָמָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר אֲכִילָה — הַיְינוּ דְּקָתָנֵי ״וְשַׁבָּת״. אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר תַּשְׁמִישׁ — תַּשְׁמִישׁ בְּשַׁבָּת מִי אִיכָּא? וְהָאָמַר רַב הוּנָא: יִשְׂרָאֵל קְדוֹשִׁים הֵן, וְאֵין מְשַׁמְּשִׁין מִטּוֹתֵיהֶן בַּיּוֹם! הָאָמַר רָבָא: בְּבַיִת אָפֵל מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection: Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says,** disagreeing with the *tanna* of the mishna: **She eats on Shabbat evening and** on **Shabbat. Granted, according to the one who says** that it means actual **eating, this** explanation **is** consistent with **that which is taught: And Shabbat,** i.e., she dines with him also on the day of Shabbat. **However, according to the one who says** that it is referring to **sexual relations, are there sexual relations on** the day of **Shabbat? But didn’t Rav Huna say: The Jewish people are holy and** therefore **do not engage in sexual relations during the day?** The Gemara answers that **Rava said:** If they are **in a dark house, it is permitted** to engage in relations even during the day.


###### Ketubot 65b:8
[Ketubot 65b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:8)

וְאִם הָיְתָה מְנִיקָה. דָּרֵשׁ רַבִּי עוּלָּא רַבָּה אַפִּיתְחָא דְּבֵי נְשִׂיאָה: אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאָמְרוּ אֵין אָדָם זָן אֶת בָּנָיו וּבְנוֹתָיו כְּשֶׁהֵן קְטַנִּים, אֲבָל זָן קְטַנֵּי קְטַנִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: **And if she is nursing,** the required amount is reduced from her earnings and is added to the sum she receives for her sustenance. **Rabbi Ulla the Great taught at the entrance to the house of the *Nasi*: Although** the Sages **said** that **a person is not** obligated **to sustain his sons and daughters when they are young, still, he** must **sustain the very young ones.**


###### Ketubot 65b:9
[Ketubot 65b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:9)

עַד כַּמָּה — עַד בֶּן שֵׁשׁ, כִּדְרַב אַסִּי. דְּאָמַר רַב אַסִּי: קָטָן בֶּן שֵׁשׁ יוֹצֵא בְּעֵירוּב אִמּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **Until when** are they considered very young? **Until the age of six, in accordance with** the opinion of **Rav Asi, as Rav Asi said: A six-year-old minor may go out by** means of **his mother’s *eiruv*,** if she prepared an *eiruv* on one side of the city. He is included in his mother’s *eiruv* rather than that of his father, as he is considered subordinate to his mother.


###### Ketubot 65b:10
[Ketubot 65b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:10)

מִמַּאי? מִדְּקָתָנֵי: הָיְתָה מְנִיקָה — פּוֹחֲתִין לָהּ מִמַּעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ, וּמוֹסִיפִין לָהּ עַל מְזוֹנוֹתֶיהָ. מַאי טַעְמָא? לָאו מִשּׁוּם דְּבָעֵי לְמֵיכַל בַּהֲדַהּ? וְדִלְמָא מִשּׁוּם דְּחוֹלָה הִיא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **From where** is this *halakha* that Rabbi Ulla taught derived? The Gemara explains that it is derived **from** the fact **that it teaches: If she is nursing,** the required amount **is reduced from her earnings and is added** to the sum she receives **for her sustenance. What is the reason** for this? Is it **not because** the baby **needs to eat** together **with her?** This shows that a father is responsible to provide for his young child. The Gemara rejects this proof: **But perhaps** he increases her sustenance not due to the baby but **because she is** considered **ill** due to her weakness while nursing, in which case the obligation stems from his obligation to his wife, not to his child.


###### Ketubot 65b:11
[Ketubot 65b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:11)

אִם כֵּן, לִיתְנֵי ״אִם הָיְתָה חוֹלָה״, מַאי אִם הָיְתָה מְנִיקָה? וְדִלְמָא הָא קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דִּסְתַם מְנִיקוֹת חוֹלוֹת נִינְהוּ. אִיתְּמַר, אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי: מוֹסִיפִין לָהּ יַיִן, שֶׁהַיַּיִן יָפֶה לְחָלָב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara retorts: **If so, let** the mishna **teach: If she was ill. What** is the reason that it specifies: **If she was nursing?** The reason for this *halakha* must certainly be due to the child. The Gemara again rejects this answer: **But perhaps** the mishna **teaches us this,** that in an **ordinary** situation, **nursing women are** considered **ill,** and that a husband must increase the sustenance all the more so if his wife is actually ill. Consequently, this does not prove that a father is obligated to sustain his very young child. **It was stated** that **Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said: Wine is added for** a nursing woman, **as wine is good for milk.**


###### Ketubot 65b:12
[Ketubot 65b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:12)

**הֲדַרַן עֲלָךְ אַף עַל פִּי**


###### Ketubot 65b:13
[Ketubot 65b:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:13)

**מְצִיאַת הָאִשָּׁה** וּמַעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ לְבַעְלָהּ. וִירוּשָּׁתָהּ — הוּא אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת בְּחַיֶּיהָ. בּוֹשְׁתָּהּ, וּפְגָמָהּ — שֶׁלָּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** A lost **object found by a wife and** the wife’s **earnings** belong **to her husband. And** with regard to **her inheritance,** the husband **enjoys the profits** of this property **in her lifetime.** If she is humiliated or injured, the perpetrator is liable to pay compensation for **her humiliation and her degradation,** as relevant. This payment belongs **to her.**


###### Ketubot 65b:14
[Ketubot 65b:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:14)

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן בְּתֵירָא אוֹמֵר: בִּזְמַן שֶׁבַּסֵּתֶר — לָהּ שְׁנֵי חֲלָקִים, וְלוֹ אֶחָד. וּבִזְמַן שֶׁבַּגָּלוּי לוֹ שְׁנֵי חֲלָקִים, וְלָהּ אֶחָד. שֶׁלּוֹ יִנָּתֵן מִיָּד, וְשֶׁלָּהּ יִלְקַח בָּהֶן קַרְקַע, וְהוּא אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yehuda ben Beteira says: When** it is an injury **that** is **in a concealed** part of the woman’s body, **she** receives **two parts,** i.e., two-thirds, of the payment for humiliation and degradation, **and** the husband receives **one** part, i.e., one-third, as the injury affects him as well. **And when** it is an injury **that** is **in an exposed** part of her body, **he** receives **two parts,** as he suffers public humiliation due to her condition, **and she** receives **one** part. **His** payment **should be given** to him **immediately. And** with **her** portion, **land should be purchased with it, and he enjoys the profits** of that property.


###### Ketubot 65b:15
[Ketubot 65b:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:15)

**גְּמָ׳** מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? תְּנֵינָא הָאָב זַכַּאי בְּבִתּוֹ בְּקִידּוּשֶׁיהָ, בְּכֶסֶף, בִּשְׁטָר וּבְבִיאָה. זַכַּאי בִּמְצִיאָתָהּ וּבְמַעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ וּבַהֲפָרַת נְדָרֶיהָ. מְקַבֵּל אֶת גִּיטָּהּ, וְאֵינוֹ אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת בְּחַיֶּיהָ. נִישֵּׂאת — יָתֵר עָלָיו הַבַּעַל, שֶׁהוּא אוֹכֵל פֵּירוֹת בְּחַיֶּיהָ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara asks: **What is** the mishna **teaching us? We** already **learned** in a mishna (46b) that **the father is entitled, in** the case of **his daughter, to** authority over **her betrothal,** whether it is effected **with money, with a document, or through sexual intercourse.** Furthermore, as long as she is single, her father **is entitled to** any lost **object** that **she finds, and to her earnings, and to** effect **nullification of her vows** (see Numbers, chapter 30). Her father also **receives her bill of divorce** on her behalf, **but he does not enjoy the profits** of her property **in her lifetime.** If **she is married, the** rights of the **husband are greater than his, as** the husband **enjoys the profits** of her property **in her lifetime.** What, then, is the mishna teaching beyond that which was taught elsewhere?


###### Ketubot 65b:16
[Ketubot 65b:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:16)

בּוֹשְׁתָּהּ וּפְגָמָהּ אִיצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ, פְּלוּגְתָּא דְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן בְּתֵירָא וְרַבָּנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: It **was necessary for** the *tanna* to mention the *halakhot* concerning compensation for **her humiliation and her degradation,** as ownership of these payments is subject to **a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda ben Beteira and the Rabbis.**


###### Ketubot 65b:17
[Ketubot 65b:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ketubot/r/65b:17)

תָּנֵי תַּנָּא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרָבָא: מְצִיאַת הָאִשָּׁה לְעַצְמָהּ. רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: לְבַעְלָהּ. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הַשְׁתָּא וּמָה הַעֲדָפָה,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **A *tanna* teaches** a *baraita* **before Rava:** A lost **object found by a wife** belongs **to her; Rabbi Akiva says** it belongs **to her husband.** Rava **said to** that *tanna*: This *baraita* is puzzling. **Now, if,** with regard to the **surplus** of the wife’s earnings beyond the minimum sum stipulated by the Sages,