## Meilah Daf 13b

###### Meilah 13b:1
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**מַתְנִי׳** שׇׁרְשֵׁי אִילָן שֶׁל הֶדְיוֹט הַבָּאִין בְּשֶׁל הֶקְדֵּשׁ, וְשֶׁל הֶקְדֵּשׁ שֶׁבָּאִין בְּשֶׁל הֶדְיוֹט – לֹא נֶהֱנִין וְלֹא מוֹעֲלִין. מַעְיָן שֶׁהוּא יוֹצֵא מִתּוֹךְ הַשָּׂדֶה שֶׁל הֶקְדֵּשׁ – לֹא נֶהֱנִין וְלֹא מוֹעֲלִין. יָצָא חוּץ לַשָּׂדֶה – נֶהֱנִין מִמֶּנּוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** With regard to **the roots of** the non-sacred **tree of an ordinary person that enter into consecrated** land, **and** the roots of **a consecrated** tree **that enter into** the non-sacred land **of an ordinary person,** one **may not derive benefit** from them *ab initio*, **but** if he derived benefit from them he is **not** liable for their **misuse.** With regard to water of **a spring** that flows in a non-sacred field but **which emerges from** that field and flows **into a consecrated field,** when it is in the consecrated field one **may not derive benefit** from it *ab initio*, **but** if one derived benefit from it he is **not** liable for its **misuse.** Once the spring **emerges outside** the consecrated field **one may derive benefit from** the water.


###### Meilah 13b:2
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הַמַּיִם שֶׁבַּכַּד שֶׁל זָהָב – לֹא נֶהֱנִין וְלֹא מוֹעֲלִין. נְתָנָן בִּצְלוֹחִית – מוֹעֲלִין בָּהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to **the water that** was drawn from the Siloam pool **into** the **golden jug,** which was not consecrated as a service vessel, to bring it to the altar for libation on the festival of *Sukkot*, one **may not derive benefit** from the water *ab initio*, as it was drawn for use in the Temple service. **But** if one derived benefit from it he is **not** liable for its **misuse,** since it was not consecrated in a service vessel. Once **one places** the water from the jug for libation **into the flask,** which is a service vessel, the water is consecrated and he is liable for **misusing** the water.


###### Meilah 13b:3
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עֲרָבָה – לֹא נֶהֱנִין וְלֹא מוֹעֲלִין. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בְּרַבִּי צָדוֹק אוֹמֵר: נוֹהֲגִין הָיוּ הַזְּקֵנִים שֶׁנֶּהֱנִים מִמֶּנּוּ בְּלוּלְבֵיהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the **willow** branches that are placed on the sides of the altar on the festival of *Sukkot*, before their placement one **may not derive benefit** from them *ab initio*, **but** if he derived benefit from them he is **not** liable for their **misuse.** After their placement their mitzva has been fulfilled, and therefore at that time one may derive benefit from the willow branches *ab initio*. **Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Tzadok, says: The elders were accustomed to derive benefit from** the willow branches even before their placement on the sides of the altar, by cutting small branches for use **in their *lulav*,** in fulfillment of the mitzva of the four species.


###### Meilah 13b:4
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**גְּמָ׳** אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: אֵין מוֹעֲלִין בְּכוּלָּן, אֲבָל מוֹעֲלִין בְּשָׁלֹשׁ לוּגִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** **Reish Lakish says:** When the mishna teaches that one is **not** liable for **misusing** the water in the golden jug awaiting use as a libation, it means that one is not liable for misuse of **all of** the water in the jug, if it contained more than three *log*. **But** one is liable for **misusing** the **three *log*** required for the libation.


###### Meilah 13b:5
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וְהָקָתָנֵי סֵיפָא: ״נְתָנוֹ לִצְלוֹחִית – מוֹעֲלִין בָּהֶן״, מִכְּלָל דְּרֵישָׁא אֲפִילּוּ בִּשְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין נָמֵי לָא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara raises a difficulty: **But the latter clause** of the mishna **teaches** that once **one placed** the water from the jug **into the flask** he is liable for **misusing** the water. One can conclude **by inference that** in the case addressed in **the first clause** of the mishna, where the water is still in the jug, one is **not** liable for misuse in all circumstances, **even if** the jug contains only the requisite **three *log*.** This apparently contradicts the statement of Reish Lakish.


###### Meilah 13b:6
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אֶלָּא אִי אִיתְּמַר אַסֵּיפָא אִיתְּמַר. מוֹעֲלִין בָּהֶן, אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: אֵין מוֹעֲלִין אֶלָּא בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה לוּגִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Rather, if** a qualification **was stated** in this matter **it was stated with regard to the latter clause** of the mishna, which teaches that once the water is placed in the flask one is liable for **misusing** the water. The qualification is as follows: **Reish Lakish says** one is liable for **its misuse only if** the flask contains exactly **three *log*** of water, which is the requisite amount for the mitzva. But if there is more than three *log* one is not liable for misusing any of the water, as it is not consecrated at all.


###### Meilah 13b:7
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וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר – מוֹעֲלִין בְּכוּלָּן. לְמֵימְרָא דְקָסָבַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: יֵשׁ שִׁיעוּר לַמַּיִם, וְהָתְנַן, אָמַר רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר: הַמְנַסֵּךְ מֵי חַג, בֶּחָג בַּחוּץ – חַיָּיב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rabbi Yoḥanan** disagrees and **says:** Even if the flask contained more than three *log* of water, one is liable for **misusing any of** the water. He maintains there is no fixed measure for water used in the libation, and therefore all the water is consecrated for the mitzva. The Gemara asks: Is this **to say that Reish Lakish holds there is** a maximum **measure for** the **water** used in the libation? **But didn’t we learn** in a mishna (*Zevaḥim* 110b) that deals with liability for sacrificing outside the Temple that **Rabbi Eliezer,** or Rabbi Elazar, **says: One who pours, as a libation, water** consecrated for the libation **of the festival** of *Sukkot*, **during the Festival, outside** the courtyard, is **liable** to receive *karet* just as though he sacrificed outside the Temple.


###### Meilah 13b:8
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וְאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן מִשּׁוּם מְנַחֵם יוֹדָאפָה: רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בְּשִׁיטַת רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אָמַר, דְּדָרֵישׁ ״נִסְכֵּיהֶם״ – אֶחָד נִיסּוּךְ הַמַּיִם, וְאֶחָד נִיסּוּךְ הַיַּיִן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara continues: **And Rabbi Yoḥanan says in the name of** Rabbi **Menaḥem Yodafa: Rabbi Elazar says** that *halakha* **in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Akiva,** his teacher, **who interprets** a verse dealing with the offerings of the festival of *Sukkot*: “Beside the daily burnt offering, its meal offering, and **its libations”** (Numbers 29:31), as follows: The plural form indicates that the verse is speaking of two types of libations: **One** is the **water libation,** unique to the festival of *Sukkot*, **and** the other **one** is the **wine libation,** which always accompanies the daily offering.


###### Meilah 13b:9
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וְאָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: אִי מָה יַיִן שָׁלֹשׁ לוּגִּין, אַף מַיִם שָׁלֹשׁ לוּגִּין! מִכְּלָל דְּסָבַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אֵין שִׁיעוּר לַמַּיִם! לְטַעְמָא דִּמְנַחֵם יוֹדָאפָה, קָאָמַר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Reish Lakish said** to Rabbi Yoḥanan: **If** Rabbi Elazar derives the obligation for the water libation through the derivation taught by Rabbi Akiva, and that is why he rules that one who pours it as a libation outside the courtyard is liable, then he should equate the libations of wine and water, as follows: **Just as** with regard to **wine** the measure for the mitzva is **three *log*, so too** here, in the case of **water,** the measure for the mitzva should be **three *log*.** One may conclude **by inference** from this statement **that Reish Lakish** himself **holds there is no measure for** the **water** used in the libation. The Gemara answers: Actually, Reish Lakish maintains that there is a measure for the water, but he **stated** his question **according to** the **explanation of** Rabbi **Menaḥem Yodafa,** cited by Rabbi Yoḥanan.


###### Meilah 13b:10
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**מַתְנִי׳** הַקֵּן שֶׁבְּרֹאשׁ הָאִילָן שֶׁל הֶקְדֵּשׁ – לָא נֶהֱנִין וְלֹא מוֹעֲלִין. שֶׁבָּאֲשֵׁירָה – יַתִּיז בְּקָנֶה. הַמַּקְדִּישׁ אֶת הַחוֹרֶשׁ – מוֹעֲלִין בְּכוּלּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** With regard to a bird’s **nest that is atop the consecrated tree,** one **may not derive benefit** from it *ab initio*, **but** if one derived benefit from it he is **not** liable for its **misuse.** In order to acquire a bird’s nest **that is** atop **a tree worshipped as idolatry,** from which one may not derive benefit even by climbing it, **one should dislodge** the nest from its place by striking it **with a pole.** In the case of **one who consecrates** his **forest, one is** liable for **misusing** everything **in the entire** forest.