## Menachot Daf 107a

###### Menachot 107a:1
[Menachot 107a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:1)

מוּרְאָה וְנוֹצָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**the crop and feathers,** which are thrown on the ground next to the altar and are not burned.


###### Menachot 107a:2
[Menachot 107a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:2)

וְהָאִיכָּא נְסָכִים, לַשִּׁיתִין אָזְלִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But aren’t there** wine **libations,** which are poured entirely onto the altar? The Gemara answers that the wine is not actually poured onto the altar; it is poured into ducts on the side of the altar and **goes** down **to the drainpipes.**


###### Menachot 107a:3
[Menachot 107a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:3)

וְהָאִיכָּא מִנְחַת נְסָכִים? כֵּיוָן דְּאִיכָּא מִנְחָה דְּאָכְלִי כֹּהֲנִים מִינַּהּ, לָא פְּסִיקָא לֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But isn’t there a meal offering** brought with **libations,** which is entirely burned on the altar? The Gemara answers that when one says: It is incumbent upon me to bring to the altar, his intent is clearly to bring a type of offering that is only sacrificed on the altar. A meal offering brought with libations is a type of meal offering. Therefore, **since there are** other types of **a meal offering from which the priests eat,** after a handful has been removed from it and burned, a meal offering brought with libations **is not a clear** example of an offering that is sacrificed on the altar in its entirety, and certainly was not **his** intent. Therefore, his intent must have been to bring frankincense.


###### Menachot 107a:4
[Menachot 107a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:4)

״הֲרֵי עָלַי זָהָב״ – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִדִּינַר זָהָב. וְדִלְמָא נְסָכָא? אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: דְּאָמַר ״מַטְבֵּעַ״. וְדִלְמָא פְּרִיטֵי? אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: פְּרִיטֵי דְּדַהֲבָא לָא עָבְדִי אִינָשֵׁי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that one who says: **It** is incumbent **upon me** to donate **gold** to the Temple treasury, **must** donate **no less than a gold dinar.** The Gemara challenges: **But perhaps** his intention in using the word gold is not to a coin at all, but to a small **piece [*naskha*]** of gold. **Rabbi Elazar said:** The case of the *baraita* is **where he said** the word **coin.** The Gemara challenges further: **But perhaps** his intention is not to a dinar, but to smaller coins, such as ***perutot*. Rav Pappa said: People do not make *perutot* of gold.** Therefore, it is unlikely that this was his intent.


###### Menachot 107a:5
[Menachot 107a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:5)

״כֶּסֶף״ – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִדִּינָר. וְדִלְמָא נְסָכָא? אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: דְּאָמַר ״מַטְבֵּעַ״, וְדִלְמָא פְּרִיטֵי? אָמַר רַב שֵׁשֶׁת: בְּאַתְרָא דְּלָא סָגוּ פְּרִיטֵי דְכַסְפָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that one who says: It is incumbent upon me to donate **silver** to the Temple maintenance, **must** donate **no less than** the value of a silver **dinar.** The Gemara challenges: **But perhaps** his intention in using the word silver is not to a coin at all, but to a small **piece** of silver. **Rabbi Elazar said:** The case of the *baraita* is **where he said** the word **coin.** The Gemara challenges further: **But perhaps** his intention is not to a dinar, but to smaller coins, such as ***perutot*. Rav Pappa said:** The *halakha* of the *baraita* is stated **with regard to a place where silver *perutot* do not circulate.**


###### Menachot 107a:6
[Menachot 107a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:6)

״נְחוֹשֶׁת״ – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִמָּעָה כֶּסֶף. תַּנְיָא: רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב אוֹמֵר – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִצִּינּוֹרָא קְטַנָּה שֶׁל נְחֹשֶׁת. לְמַאי חַזְיָא? אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: שֶׁמְּחַטְּטִין בָּהּ פְּתִילוֹת, וּמְקַנְּחִין בָּהּ נֵרוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that one who says: It is incumbent upon me to donate **copper** to the Temple maintenance, **must** donate **no less than** the value of **a silver *ma’a*. It is taught** in a *baraita* that **Rabbi Eliezer ben Ya’akov says: He must** donate **no less than** the amount needed to forge **a small copper hook.** The Gemara asks: **For what** use **is** that **suitable** in the Temple? **Abaye said: They scrape** the **wicks** from the Candelabrum **with it and clean** the **lamps** of the Candelabrum **with it.**


###### Menachot 107a:7
[Menachot 107a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:7)

בַּרְזֶל, תַּנְיָא, אֲחֵרִים אוֹמְרִים: לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִכָּלְיָה עוֹרֵב, וְכַמָּה? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: אַמָּה עַל אַמָּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The mishna discusses pledges of gold, silver, and copper. What is the *halakha* if one says: It is incumbent upon me to donate **iron? It is taught** in a *baraita* that **others say:** He **must** donate **no less than** the amount that can be made into a base and spike designed to **eliminate the ravens [*mikkalya orev*].** The Gemara asks: **And how much** is that? **Rav Yosef said:** One **cubit** in width **by** one **cubit** in length.


###### Menachot 107a:8
[Menachot 107a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:8)

אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: לֹא יִפְחוֹת מֵאַמָּה עַל אַמָּה. לְמַאי חַזְיָא? אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: לְכָלְיָה עוֹרֵב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**There are** those **who say** another version of this *baraita* and the subsequent explanation: One who pledges to donate iron **must** donate **no less than** one **cubit** in width **by** one **cubit** in length. The Gemara asks: **For what is** this amount of iron **suitable? Rav Yosef said:** It is suitable **for** a base and spike designed to **eliminate the ravens.**


###### Menachot 107a:9
[Menachot 107a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:9)

**מַתְנִי׳** ״הֲרֵי עָלַי יַיִן״ – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִשְּׁלֹשָׁה לוּגִּין, ״שֶׁמֶן״ – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִלּוֹג, רַבִּי אוֹמֵר: שְׁלֹשָׁה לוּגִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** One who says: **It** is incumbent **upon me** to bring a libation of **wine, must** bring **no less than three *log*,** as that is the minimum amount of wine brought as a libation accompanying an animal offering. One who says: It is incumbent upon me to bring **oil, must** bring **no less than a *log*,** as the smallest meal offering includes one *log* of oil. **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **says:** He must bring no less than **three *log*,** as that is the amount of oil in the meal offering that accompanies the sacrifice of a lamb, which is the smallest amount in any of the meal offerings that accompany the sacrifice of an animal.


###### Menachot 107a:10
[Menachot 107a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:10)

״פֵּירַשְׁתִּי, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מָה פֵּירַשְׁתִּי״ – יָבִיא כְּיוֹם מְרוּבֶּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
One who says: **I specified** how many *log* I vowed to bring **but I do not know what** amount **I specified, must bring** an amount of oil **equivalent to** the amount brought on the **day** that the **largest** amount of oil is sacrificed in the Temple.


###### Menachot 107a:11
[Menachot 107a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:11)

**גְּמָ׳** תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״אֶזְרָח״ – מְלַמֵּד שֶׁמִּתְנַדְּבִין יַיִן, וְכַמָּה? שְׁלֹשָׁה לוּגִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Torah states with regard to libations: “All that are native born shall do these things in this manner, in presenting an offering made by fire, of a pleasing aroma to the Lord” (Numbers 15:13). As this verse is superfluous, the various terms in it are used to derive *halakhot*. The term **“native born” teaches that one may pledge libations** independently, even when they are not sacrificed together with an offering. **And how much** is the minimum size that is offered? **Three *log*,** which is the smallest measurement of a libation in the Torah and is offered with a lamb.


###### Menachot 107a:12
[Menachot 107a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:12)

וּמִנַּיִן שֶׁאִם רָצָה לְהוֹסִיף יוֹסִיף? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״יִהְיֶה״. יָכוֹל יִפְחוֹת? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״כָּכָה״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And from where** is it derived **that if one desires to add** to this amount, **he may add** to it? **The verse states** with regard to libations associated with the additional offerings for the New Moon: “And their libations: Half a *hin* of wine **shall be** for the bull, and the third part of a *hin* for the ram, and the fourth part of a *hin* for the lamb (Numbers 28:14). From the superfluous “shall be” one may understand that there are other amounts of wine that may be brought as independent libations. One **might** have thought that he can **decrease** the amount of wine in a libation to less than three *log*. Therefore, **the verse states:** “All that are native born shall do these things, **in this manner”** (Numbers 15:13), i.e., one may not bring less than three *log* of wine.


###### Menachot 107a:13
[Menachot 107a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:13)

שֶׁמֶן – לֹא יִפְחוֹת מִן הַלּוֹג, רַבִּי אוֹמֵר: שְׁלֹשָׁה לוּגִּין. בְּמַאי קָא מִיפַּלְגִי?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The mishna teaches that if one said: It is incumbent upon me to bring **oil, he must** bring **no less than a *log*,** as the smallest meal offering includes a *log* of oil. **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **says:** He must bring no less than **three *log*.** The Gemara asks: **With regard to what** principle do they **disagree?**


###### Menachot 107a:14
[Menachot 107a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:14)

אַמְרוּהָ רַבָּנַן קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב פָּפָּא: בְּדוּן מִינַּהּ וּמִינַּהּ, בְּדוּן מִינַּהּ וְאוֹקֵים בְּאַתְרַהּ – קָא מִיפַּלְגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages said before Rav Pappa:** The Rabbis and Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **disagree with regard to** the proper method of logical derivation when deriving the *halakha* with regard to one matter from the *halakha* with regard to another matter. One opinion holds that the proper method is to **infer from it, and** again **from it,** i.e., equate the two cases in all aspects, while the other holds that the comparison extends only to one specific issue derived from the primary case, in accordance with the principle: **Infer from it but interpret** the *halakha* according **to its** own **place,** i.e., in all other aspects the cases are not equated.


###### Menachot 107a:15
[Menachot 107a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:15)

רַבָּנַן סָבְרִי: דּוּן מִינַּהּ וּמִינַּהּ, מָה מִנְחָה מִתְנַדְּבִין – אַף שֶׁמֶן נָמֵי מִתְנַדְּבִין, וּמִינַּהּ: מָה מִנְחָה בְּלוֹג – אַף שֶׁמֶן בְּלוֹג.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Sages explained: **The Rabbis hold** by the principle: **Infer from it, and** again **from it.** The Gemara explains the application of this principle: **Just as a meal offering is contributed, so too oil is contributed,** as inferred from the verse addressing the meal offering. **And** again one infers **from** this source: **Just as a meal offering** requires **a *log*** of oil, **so too here,** an offering of oil alone must be **a *log* of oil.**


###### Menachot 107a:16
[Menachot 107a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:16)

וְרַבִּי סָבַר: דּוּן מִינַּהּ וְאוֹקֵי בְּאַתְרַהּ, מָה מִנְחָה מִתְנַדְּבִין, אַף שֶׁמֶן נָמֵי מִתְנַדְּבִין, וְאוֹקֵי בְּאַתְרַהּ כִּנְסָכִים, מָה נְסָכִים שְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין, אַף שֶׁמֶן נָמֵי שְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **holds** that the proper method is to **infer from it but interpret** the *halakha* according **to its** own **place: Just as a meal offering is contributed, so too oil is contributed. But** with regard to all other aspects of this *halakha*, **interpret** the *halakha* according **to its** own **place,** and its status is **like** that of **libations,** which are similar to oil in that they are also poured onto the altar: **Just as** one contributes **libations** of **three *log*, so too** when one contributes **oil,** one contributes **three *log*.**


###### Menachot 107a:17
[Menachot 107a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:17)

אֲמַר לְהוּ רַב פָּפָּא: אִי מִמִּנְחָה גָּמַר לַהּ רַבִּי, דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְּלִיגִי דּוּן מִינַּהּ וּמִינַּהּ, אֶלָּא רַבִּי מֵ״אֶזְרָח״ גְּמִיר לַהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappa said to** the Sages who suggested this interpretation: **If Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **derived** the source of the gift offering of oil **from** the verse addressing the **meal offering,** he would not disagree with the Rabbis, **as everyone** employs the principle of: **Infer from it, and** again **from it. Rather, Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **derives** the gift offering of oil **from** a verse concerning libations: “All that are **native born** shall do these things in this manner, in presenting an offering made by fire” (Numbers 15:13). Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi derives from here that just as one may contribute wine libations, so too one may contribute oil. Therefore, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi compares oil to wine libations: Just as one contributes libations of three *log*, so too one contributes three *log* of oil.


###### Menachot 107a:18
[Menachot 107a:18](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:18)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נָתָן לְרַב פָּפָּא: וּמִי מָצֵית אָמְרַתְּ הָכִי? וְהָתַנְיָא: ״קׇרְבָּן״ – מְלַמֵּד שֶׁמִּתְנַדְּבִין שֶׁמֶן, וְכַמָּה? שְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין. מַאן שָׁמְעַתְּ לֵיהּ דְּאָמַר שְׁלֹשֶׁת לוּגִּין? רַבִּי, וְקָא מַיְיתֵי לַהּ מִ״קׇּרְבָּן״. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִי תַּנְיָא תַּנְיָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Huna, son of Rav Natan, said to Rav Pappa: And how can you say that** according to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi the source of the gift offering of oil is not from the meal offering? **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita* with regard to the verse: “And when one brings a meal offering **[*korban minḥa*]”** (Leviticus 2:1), that the superfluous word *korban* **teaches that one may contribute oil. And how much** must one contribute? **Three *log*.** The Gemara explains the question: **Who did you hear that says** the gift offering of oil is **three *log*? This is** the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi, **and** yet he **cites** the source of the gift offering of oil **from** the word ***korban*,** which is referring to a meal offering. Rav Pappa **said to him: If** this *baraita* **is taught, it is taught,** and I cannot take issue with it.


###### Menachot 107a:19
[Menachot 107a:19](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:19)

״פֵּירַשְׁתִּי, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מָה פֵּירַשְׁתִּי״ – יָבִיא כְּיוֹם מְרוּבֶּה. תְּנָא: כְּיוֹם טוֹב הָרִאשׁוֹן שֶׁל חַג שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בַּשַּׁבָּת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The mishna teaches that one who says: **I specified** how many *log* I vowed to bring **but I do not know what** number **I specified, must bring** an amount of oil **equivalent to** the amount brought on the **day** that the **largest** amount of oil is sacrificed in the Temple. The Sages **taught:** He must bring an amount of oil **equivalent to** the amount that is brought on **the first day of the Festival,** i.e., *Sukkot*, **when it occurs on Shabbat.** The offerings brought on that day include the additional offerings for *Sukkot* and also the additional offerings for Shabbat, and the total amount of oil brought on that day is 140 *log*.


###### Menachot 107a:20
[Menachot 107a:20](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:20)

**מַתְנִי׳** ״הֲרֵי עָלַי עוֹלָה״ – יָבִיא כֶּבֶשׂ. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה אוֹמֵר: אוֹ תּוֹר אוֹ בֶּן יוֹנָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** One who says: **It** is incumbent **upon me** to bring **a burnt offering, must bring a lamb,** which is the least expensive land animal sacrificed as an offering. **Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya says:** He may bring **either a dove or a pigeon,** as a bird burnt offering.


###### Menachot 107a:21
[Menachot 107a:21](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/107a:21)

״פֵּירַשְׁתִּי מִן הַבָּקָר, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מָה פֵּירַשְׁתִּי״ – יָבִיא פַּר וְעֵגֶל. ״מִן הַבְּהֵמָה, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מָה פֵּירַשְׁתִּי״ – יָבִיא פַּר וְעֵגֶל, אַיִל, שָׂעִיר, גְּדִי וְטָלֶה. ״פֵּירַשְׁתִּי, וְאֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מָה פֵּירַשְׁתִּי״ –

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
One who says: I vowed to bring a burnt offering, and **I specified** that it would be **from the herd, but I do not know what** animal **I specified, must bring a bull and a male calf,** as a burnt offering is brought only from male animals. One who says: I vowed to bring a burnt offering and I specified that it would be **from the animals but I do not know what** animal **I specified, must bring a bull and a male calf, a ram, a large male goat, a small male goat, and a male lamb.** One who says: I vowed to bring a burnt offering, and **I specified** what type of burnt offering it would be, **but I do not know what I specified,**