## Menachot Daf 63b

###### Menachot 63b:1
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וְכִי נֶאֱמַר ״קׇרְבָּן״ ״קׇרְבָּן״ שְׁנֵי פְּעָמִים? וַהֲלֹא לֹא נֶאֱמַר אֶלָּא קׇרְבָּן אֶחָד, וְנֶאֱמַר בּוֹ חַלּוֹת וּרְקִיקִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And is it stated** with regard to a meal offering baked in an oven: **“Offering,”** and again: **Offering,** for a total of **two times,** once in connection to a meal offering of loaves and once in connection to a meal offering of wafers? If that were the case, it would indicate that these are two types of offerings. But **doesn’t it** actually **say “offering” only one** time: “And when you bring a meal offering baked in an oven, it shall be unleavened loaves of fine flour mixed with oil, or unleavened wafers spread with oil” (Leviticus 2:4)? **And it is stated with regard to this** meal offering both **loaves and wafers,** which indicates that these are two varieties of the same offering.


###### Menachot 63b:2
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מֵעַתָּה, רָצָה לְהָבִיא חַלּוֹת – מֵבִיא, רְקִיקִין – מֵבִיא, מֶחֱצָה חַלּוֹת וּמֶחֱצָה רְקִיקִין – מֵבִיא, וּבוֹלְלָן וְקוֹמֵץ מִשְּׁנֵיהֶם, וְאִם קָמַץ וְעָלָה בְּיָדוֹ מֵאֶחָד עַל שְׁנֵיהֶם – יָצָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabbi Shimon continues: **From now** it may be inferred that if one **wants to bring** ten **loaves he may bring** ten loaves, and if he prefers to bring ten **wafers, he may bring** ten wafers, and if he decides that **half** of them should be **loaves and half** of them **wafers, he may bring** it in this manner. **And** if he brings part as loaves and part as wafers, how does he proceed? He **mingles** all of **them and removes a handful from both of them. And** if **he removed a handful and** it happened that only part **of one** type, either loaves or wafers, **came up in his hand for both of them,** he has **fulfilled** his obligation, as they are both part of a single offering.


###### Menachot 63b:3
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רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בַּר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: מִנַּיִן לְאוֹמֵר ״הֲרֵי עָלַי מִנְחַת מַאֲפֶה״, שֶׁלֹּא יָבִיא מֶחֱצָה חַלּוֹת וּמֶחֱצָה רְקִיקִין? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״וְכׇל מִנְחָה אֲשֶׁר תֵּאָפֶה בַּתַּנּוּר״, ״וְכׇל נַעֲשָׂה בַמַּרְחֶשֶׁת וְעַל מַחֲבַת לַכֹּהֵן הַמַּקְרִיב אֹתָהּ לוֹ תִהְיֶה״, ״וְכׇל מִנְחָה בְלוּלָה בַשֶּׁמֶן וַחֲרֵבָה לְכׇל בְּנֵי אַהֲרֹן תִּהְיֶה״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yosei bar Rabbi Yehuda says: From where** is it derived with regard **to one who says: It** is incumbent **upon me** to bring **a baked meal offering, that he may not bring half** of the offering as **loaves and half** as **wafers?** He answers: **The verse states: “And every meal offering that is baked in an oven, and every one that is made in the deep pan, and on the shallow pan, shall belong to the priest who sacrifices it. And every meal offering, mixed with oil, or dry, shall belong to all the sons of Aaron,** one as well as another” (Leviticus 7:9–10).


###### Menachot 63b:4
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מָה ״וְכׇל״ הָאָמוּר לְמַטָּה שְׁנֵי מִינִין חֲלוּקִין, אַף ״וְכׇל״ הָאָמוּר לְמַעְלָה שְׁנֵי מִינִין חֲלוּקִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The verses juxtapose the meal offering baked in an oven to the meal offering prepared on the pan and the meal offering prepared in the deep pan, and similarly to the meal offering brought as a gift, alluded to by the phrase: “Mixed with oil,” and to the meal offering of a sinner, which is called: “Dry.” This teaches that **just as** the term: **“And every”** (Leviticus 7:10), **stated below** with regard to those meal offerings, is referring to **two different types** of meal offering, **so too,** the term: **“And every”** (Leviticus 7:9), **stated above,** with regard to the two forms of meal offering baked in an oven, is referring to **two different types** of meal offering, and therefore one may not bring part as loaves and part as wafers.


###### Menachot 63b:5
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וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה, שַׁפִּיר קָאָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן? אָמַר לָךְ: כֵּיוָן דִּכְתִיב ״בַּשֶּׁמֶן״ ״בַּשֶּׁמֶן״, כְּמַאן דִּכְתִיב ״קׇרְבָּן״ ״קׇרְבָּן״ דָּמֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** how does **Rabbi Yehuda,** who maintains that loaves and wafers are two different types of meal offerings baked in an oven, respond to Rabbi Shimon’s proof? After all, **Rabbi Shimon is saying well** when he points out that the verse mentions “offering” only once. The Gemara explains: Rabbi Yehuda could have **said to you: Since it is written: “With oil,”** and: **“With oil,”** in the verse: “It shall be unleavened loaves of fine flour mixed with oil, or unleavened wafers spread with oil” (Leviticus 2:4), it is considered **as though it is written “offering”** and **“offering,”** and therefore these are deemed two different types of meal offering.


###### Menachot 63b:6
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וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, אִי לָא כְּתִיב ״בְּשֶׁמֶן״ ״בְּשֶׁמֶן״, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא דַּוְוקָא מֶחֱצָה חַלּוֹת וּמֶחֱצָה רְקִיקִין, אֲבָל חַלּוֹת לְחוֹדַיְיהוּ וּרְקִיקִין לְחוֹדַיְיהוּ אֵימָא לָא, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** how does **Rabbi Shimon** respond to this claim? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Shimon maintains that the repetition of the term “with oil” teaches a different *halakha*. **If it were not written “with oil,”** and again **“with oil,” I would say** that a meal offering baked in an oven must be **specifically** brought **half** as **loaves and half** as **wafers, and** if he wanted to bring only **loaves alone or wafers alone,** I would **say** that he may **not** bring a meal offering in this manner. The repetition of the term “with oil” **teaches us** that a meal offering baked in an oven can comprise ten loaves, or ten wafers, or a combination of both types.


###### Menachot 63b:7
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רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה הַיְינוּ אֲבוּהּ? אִיכָּא בֵּינַיְיהוּ דְּאִי עֲבַד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara further inquires: The *baraita* states that Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, holds that loaves and wafers are two different types of meal offerings. The opinion of **Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Yehuda, is** the same as that of **his father,** Rabbi Yehuda, whose opinion is also mentioned in the *baraita*. Why is it necessary to cite Rabbi Yosei bar Rabbi Yehuda’s opinion separately? The Gemara explains: It is necessary to cite the opinion of Rabbi Yosei bar Rabbi Yehuda, because there is a practical difference **between** his ruling and that of his father; **as, if** someone transgressed and **performed** the sacrifice of a meal offering baked in an oven by bringing a mixture of loaves and wafers, according to Rabbi Yehuda the offering is valid after the fact, whereas Rabbi Yosei bar Rabbi Yehuda deems it not valid even after the fact.


###### Menachot 63b:8
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**הֲדַרַן עֲלָךְ כׇּל הַמְּנָחוֹת.**


###### Menachot 63b:9
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מַתְנִי׳ **רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל** אוֹמֵר: עוֹמֶר הָיָה בָּא בַּשַּׁבָּת מִשָּׁלֹשׁ סְאִין, וּבַחוֹל מֵחָמֵשׁ, וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֶחָד שַׁבָּת וְאֶחָד חוֹל מִשָּׁלֹשׁ הָיָה בָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** **Rabbi Yishmael says:** When the day of the sacrifice of the ***omer*** meal offering **would** occur **on Shabbat,** the labors performed that would otherwise be prohibited were kept to a minimum, and the one-tenth of an ephah of flour that was **brought** as an offering was processed **from three *se’a*** of reaped barley. **And** if it occurred **during the week,** the flour was processed **from five** *se’a* of reaped barley. **And the Rabbis say: Both on Shabbat and** during the **week,** the *omer* offering **would come from three** *se’a* of reaped barley.


###### Menachot 63b:10
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רַבִּי חֲנִינָא סְגַן הַכֹּהֲנִים אוֹמֵר: בַּשַּׁבָּת הָיָה נִקְצָר בְּיָחִיד, וּבְמַגָּל אֶחָד, וּבְקוּפָּה אַחַת, וּבַחוֹל – בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה, בְּשָׁלֹשׁ קוּפּוֹת, וְשָׁלֹשׁ מַגָּלוֹת. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֶחָד שַׁבָּת וְאֶחָד חוֹל – בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה, בְּשָׁלֹשׁ קוּפּוֹת, וּבְשָׁלֹשׁ מַגָּלוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Ḥanina, the deputy High Priest, says: On Shabbat** the barley **was reaped by an individual and with one sickle and with one basket** into which the barley was placed; **and during the week,** it was reaped **by three** people **with three baskets and three sickles. And the Rabbis say: Both on Shabbat and** during the **week,** it was reaped **by three** people **with three baskets and with three sickles.**


###### Menachot 63b:11
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**גְּמָ׳** בִּשְׁלָמָא רַבָּנַן קָא סָבְרִי: עִשָּׂרוֹן מוּבְחָר (בִּשְׁלֹשָׁה) [מִשָּׁלֹשׁ] סְאִין אָתֵי, וְלָא שְׁנָא בְּחוֹל וְלָא שְׁנָא בְּשַׁבָּת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** Rabbi Yishmael and the Rabbis disagree in the mishna with regard to how many *se’a* of barley were reaped for the *omer* meal offering on Shabbat. According to Rabbi Yishmael three *se’a* were reaped when the offering was brought on a Shabbat, and five *se’a* were reaped when the offering was brought on a weekday. The Rabbis maintain that both during the week and on Shabbat, three *se’a* were reaped. The Gemara asks: **Granted** the opinion of **the Rabbis** is clear, as they maintain that **a select tenth** of an ephah of flour **comes from three *se’a*** of reaped barley, **and** therefore **there is no difference** whether the barley is reaped **during the week or** whether it is reaped **on Shabbat,** as a select tenth is required.


###### Menachot 63b:12
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אֶלָּא רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, מַאי קָסָבַר? אִי קָסָבַר: עִשָּׂרוֹן מוּבְחָר לָא אָתֵי אֶלָּא מֵחָמֵשׁ – אֲפִילּוּ בְּשַׁבָּת נָמֵי! אִי מִשָּׁלֹשׁ אָתֵי – אֲפִילּוּ בַּחוֹל נָמֵי!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** there is a question with regard to the opinion of **Rabbi Yishmael,** who differentiates between Shabbat and during the week. **What** does he **hold? If he holds** that **a select tenth** of an ephah of flour **can come only from five** *se’a* of reaped barley, then **even on Shabbat** five *se’a* should **also** be required. And **if** the select tenth of an ephah of flour **can come from** even **three** *se’a*, then **even on a weekday** three should suffice.


###### Menachot 63b:13
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אָמַר רָבָא: קָסָבַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, עִשָּׂרוֹן מוּבְחָר בְּלָא טִירְחָא אָתֵי מֵחָמֵשׁ, בְּטִירְחָא אָתֵי מִשָּׁלֹשׁ. בַּחוֹל מַיְיתִינַן מֵחָמֵשׁ, דְּהָכִי שְׁבִיחָא מִילְּתָא. בְּשַׁבָּת – מוּטָב שֶׁיַּרְבֶּה בִּמְלָאכָה אַחַת בְּהַרְקָדָה, וְאַל יַרְבֶּה בִּמְלָאכוֹת הַרְבֵּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava said: Rabbi Yishmael holds** that **a select tenth** of an ephah of flour can come **without exertion from five** *se’a*, and **with exertion from three.** Therefore, **on a weekday we** reap and **bring** flour **from five** *se’a*, **as this** produces **a better** final **product,** since only the highest-quality flour of each *se’a* is selected. **On Shabbat,** it is **preferable that one** should **increase** the effort involved **in one prohibited labor,** that **of sifting** the flour numerous times, **and one** should **not increase** the number of prohibited acts involved in performing **many prohibited labors,** such as reaping and winnowing, which are required for the processing of five *se’a*.


###### Menachot 63b:14
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אָמַר רַבָּה: רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל וְרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן בְּרוֹקָה אָמְרוּ דָּבָר אֶחָד, דְּתַנְיָא: אַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר שֶׁחָל לִהְיוֹת בְּשַׁבָּת – מַפְשִׁיט אֶת הַפֶּסַח עַד הֶחָזֶה, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן בְּרוֹקָה. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: עַד שֶׁיַּפְשִׁיט אֶת כּוּלּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rabba said: Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Beroka, said the same thing. As it is taught** in a *baraita*: If **the fourteenth** of Nisan **occurs on Shabbat,** when the Paschal offering is sacrificed but not roasted until Shabbat ends, **one flays the Paschal offering up to the breast,** to enable removal of the parts of the animal that are sacrificed upon the altar on Shabbat, and flays the rest of the animal after Shabbat. Further skinning is only to facilitate eating the animal and therefore it does not override Shabbat. This is **the statement of Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Beroka. And the Rabbis say:** One has not performed the obligation properly **unless he flays it in its entirety.**


###### Menachot 63b:15
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מִי לָא אָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּנוֹ שֶׁל רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן בֶּן בְּרוֹקָה הָתָם, כֹּל הֵיכָא דְּאֶפְשָׁר לָא טָרְחִינַן? הָכָא נָמֵי, כֵּיוָן דְּאֶפְשָׁר – לָא טָרְחִינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara explains why the statements of Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Beroka, are the same. **Didn’t Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yoḥanan ben Beroka, say there** that **anywhere that it is possible** to perform the necessary task without an additional action, **we do not exert** ourselves on Shabbat? **Here, too, since it is possible** to perform the necessary task without the extra flaying, **we do not exert** ourselves.


###### Menachot 63b:16
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מִמַּאי? דִּלְמָא עַד כָּאן לָא קָאָמַר רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל הָכָא, אֶלָּא דְּלֵיכָּא בִּזְיוֹן קָדָשִׁים, אֲבָל הָתָם דְּאִיכָּא בִּזְיוֹן קֳדָשִׁים,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this comparison: **From where** is this conclusion reached? **Perhaps Rabbi Yishmael states** his ruling **only here,** in the case of reaping three *se’a* on Shabbat, **where there is no degradation of consecrated** items. **But there, where there is degradation of consecrated** items, as the animal will be left half-flayed overnight,