## Menachot Daf 75b

###### Menachot 75b:1
[Menachot 75b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/75b:1)

אָמַר רַבָּה: אֵיזֶהוּ דָּבָר שֶׁצָּרִיךְ שְׁנֵי מִיעוּטִין? הֱוֵי אוֹמֵר זוֹ מִנְחַת מַאֲפֶה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabba says:** This is the reason that wafers are also excluded from the mitzva of pouring, while a meal offering brought by a priest is not excluded: The verse uses two expressions of exclusion: “Upon it,” and: “It is a meal offering.” **What is the matter that requires two exclusions? You must say: It is the** oven-**baked meal offering,** of which there are two types of offerings: Wafers and loaves.


###### Menachot 75b:2
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**מַתְנִי׳** מִנְחַת יִשְׂרָאֵל – קוֹפֵל אֶחָד לִשְׁנַיִם, וּשְׁנַיִם לְאַרְבָּעָה, וּמַבְדִּיל. מִנְחַת כֹּהֲנִים – קוֹפֵל אֶחָד לִשְׁנַיִם, וּשְׁנַיִם לְאַרְבָּעָה, וְאֵינוֹ מַבְדִּיל. מִנְחַת כֹּהֵן מָשִׁיחַ – לֹא הָיָה מְקַפְּלָה. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: מִנְחַת כֹּהֲנִים וּמִנְחַת כֹּהֵן מָשִׁיחַ אֵין בָּהֶן פְּתִיתָה, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאֵין בָּהֶן קְמִיצָה, וְכֹל שֶׁאֵין בָּהֶן קְמִיצָה – אֵין בָּהֶן פְּתִיתָה. וְכוּלָּן פּוֹתְתָן כְּזֵיתִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** In breaking **the meal offering of an Israelite** into pieces, the priest **folds [*kofel*] one** into two **and two into four and separates** it at the folds. In breaking into pieces **the meal offering of priests,** the priest **folds one into two and two into four and does not separate** it at the folds. Because no handful is removed, separation is unnecessary. In the case of the griddle-cake **meal offering of the anointed priest, he would not fold it. Rabbi Shimon says:** In neither **the meal offering of priests nor the meal offering of the anointed priest is there breaking** into pieces, **because in** those meal offerings **there is no removal of a handful. And any** meal offering **in which there is no removal of a handful there is no breaking** into pieces. **And** in **all** meal offerings that are broken into pieces, the priest **breaks them** into **olive-bulk-**sized pieces.


###### Menachot 75b:3
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**גְּמָ׳** תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״פָּתוֹת״ – יָכוֹל לִשְׁנַיִם? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״פִּתִּים״. אִי ״פִּתִּים״ – יָכוֹל יַעֲשֶׂנָּה פֵּירוּרִין? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״אֹתָהּ״ – אוֹתָהּ לִפְתִיתִים, וְלֹא פְּתִיתָה לִפְתִיתִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** With regard to the difference between the meal offering of an Israelite and that of a priest detailed in the mishna, **the Sages taught** in a *baraita*: The verse states: **“You shall break** it in pieces” (Leviticus 2:6). One **might** have thought that it should be broken **into** only **two** pieces. Therefore, **the verse states:** “Break it in **pieces,”** indicating that each of these two pieces is subsequently broken into more pieces. **If** the Torah requires **pieces,** one **might** have thought that **he should** repeatedly break it into pieces until he **renders it** into **crumbs.** Therefore, **the verse states:** “Break **it,”** i.e., break **it in pieces, and** do **not** break **its pieces into** additional **pieces.**


###### Menachot 75b:4
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הָא כֵּיצַד? מִנְחַת יִשְׂרָאֵל – קוֹפֵל אֶחָד לִשְׁנַיִם וּשְׁנַיִם לְאַרְבָּעָה וּמַבְדִּיל. מִנְחַת כֹּהֲנִים וְכֹהֵן מָשִׁיחַ – הָיָה מְקַפְּלָה וְכוּ׳. וְהָא אֲנַן תְּנַן: לֹא הָיָה מְקַפְּלָה! אָמַר רַבָּה: אֵינוֹ מְקַפְּלָה לְאַרְבָּעָה, אֲבָל מְקַפְּלָה לִשְׁנַיִם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**How so?** In the case of **the meal offering of an Israelite,** the priest **folds one into two and two into four and separates** the pieces. In breaking into pieces **the meal offering of priests and** the **anointed priest,** the priest **folds it** into two, as it is stated: “In broken pieces you shall sacrifice the offering” (Leviticus 6:14). The Gemara asks: With regard to the meal offering of the anointed priest, **didn’t we learn** in the mishna: **He would not fold it? Rabba says:** He **does not fold it into four,** as it does not use the doubled phrase: “You shall break it in pieces [*patot otah pitim*],” **but** he does **fold it into two.**


###### Menachot 75b:5
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רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: מִנְחַת כֹּהֲנִים וּמִנְחַת כֹּהֵן מָשִׁיחַ אֵין בָּהֶן פְּתִיתָה. אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: הַאי חֲבִיצָא דְּאִית בַּהּ פֵּירוּרִין כְּזַיִת – מְבָרְכִינַן עֲלֵיהּ ״הַמּוֹצִיא לֶחֶם מִן הָאָרֶץ״, אִי לֵית בַּהּ פֵּירוּרִין כְּזַיִת – מְבָרְכִינַן עֲלֵיהּ ״בּוֹרֵא מִינֵי מְזוֹנוֹת״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The mishna teaches: **Rabbi Shimon says:** In neither **the meal offering of priests nor the meal offering of the anointed priest is there breaking** into pieces…and in all meal offerings that are broken into pieces, one breaks them into olive-bulk pieces. **Rav Yosef said:** Over **this cooked dish, which contains pieces** of bread that are the size of **an olive-bulk,** before eating it **one recites upon it** the blessing of: **Who brings forth bread from the earth.** Over that same cooked dish, **if it does not contain pieces** of bread that are the size of **an olive-bulk,** before eating it **one recites upon it** the blessing of: **Who creates the various kinds of nourishment.**


###### Menachot 75b:6
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אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מְנָא אָמֵינָא לַהּ? דְּתַנְיָא: הָיָה עוֹמֵד וּמַקְרִיב מְנָחוֹת בִּירוּשָׁלַיִם, אוֹמֵר: ״בָּרוּךְ שֶׁהֶחֱיָינוּ וְקִיְּמָנוּ״, נְטָלָן לְאׇכְלָן אוֹמֵר: ״הַמּוֹצִיא לֶחֶם מִן הָאָרֶץ״, וּתְנַן: וְכוּלָּן פְּתִיתִים בִּכְזַיִת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said: From where do I say this** *halakha*? **As it is taught** in a *baraita*: The first time an Israelite **would stand and** instruct a priest to **sacrifice meal offerings in Jerusalem** on his behalf, he would **recite: Blessed** are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, **Who has given us life and sustained us** and brought us to this time, as it is the first time that the Israelite fulfills the mitzva of bringing that offering. Following the removal of the handful, when the priest **would take** the meal offerings in order **to eat them, he would** first **recite** the blessing of: **Who brings forth bread from the earth. And we learned** in the mishna: **And** in **all** meal offerings that are broken into pieces, the priest breaks them into **pieces** the size **of an olive-bulk.** This proves that over pieces of bread that are the volume of an olive-bulk, one recites the blessing of: Who brings forth bread from the earth.


###### Menachot 75b:7
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: וּלְתַנָּא דְּבֵי רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, דְּאָמַר מְפָרְכָן עַד שֶׁמַּחְזִירָן לְסׇלְתָּן, הָכִי נָמֵי דְּלָא מְבָרֵךְ ״הַמּוֹצִיא״?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said to** Rav Yosef: **But according to the *tanna* of the school of Rabbi Yishmael, who said** with regard to meal offerings: **He crushes them** continuously **until he restores them to** the form they had when **they** were **flour,** would you say **that so too,** in that case, one who eats a meal offering so prepared **does not recite** the blessing of: **Who brings forth** bread from the earth?


###### Menachot 75b:8
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וְכִי תֵּימָא הָכִי נָמֵי, וְהָתַנְיָא: לִיקֵּט מִכּוּלָּן כְּזַיִת וַאֲכָלוֹ, אִם חָמֵץ הוּא – עָנוּשׁ כָּרֵת, אִם מַצָּה הוּא – אָדָם יוֹצֵא בָּהֶן יְדֵי חוֹבָתוֹ בַּפֶּסַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you would say** that **indeed,** one does not recite that blessing over these meal offerings, that is difficult: **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita*: With regard to **one who gathered** a portion the volume of **an olive-bulk from all of** the crumbs of the meal offerings **and ate it, if it was** an offering of **leavened bread** like that of a thanks offering, and he ate it on Passover, his act is **punishable by *karet*. If** it **was** an offering **of unleavened bread, a person fulfills his obligation** to eat *matza* **on Passover through** the consumption of those pieces. This indicates that pieces of bread, regardless of their volume, are always considered bread.


###### Menachot 75b:9
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הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן? בְּשֶׁעֵירְסָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Yosef answered him that this is not the *halakha*, and one does not recite a blessing over crumbs of bread as he would over actual bread. Rather, **what are we dealing with here?** We are dealing with a case **where** one kneaded the crumbs of bread together and **pressed them [*beshe’eirsan*]** into a single mass.


###### Menachot 75b:10
[Menachot 75b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/75b:10)

אִי הָכִי, הַיְינוּ דְּקָתָנֵי עֲלַהּ: וְהוּא שֶׁאֲכָלָן בִּכְדֵי אֲכִילַת פְּרָס, וְאִי בְּשֶׁעֵירְסָן – ״שֶׁאֲכָלוֹ״ מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ! אֶלָּא הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן? בְּבָא מִלֶּחֶם גָּדוֹל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges this: **If so, that which is taught about** the ruling in the *baraita*: **And this is** the *halakha* **when he ate** all of the crumbs that constitute the volume of an olive-bulk **in** the time it takes **to eat a half-loaf [*peras*]** of bread, is difficult. As, **if** it is a case **where he pressed them** into a single mass, the *baraita* **should have** taught: **When he ate it,** in the singular, as it is a single item. **Rather, what are we dealing with here?** We are dealing with a case **where** the crumbs **came from a large** loaf of **bread.** Although the crumbs themselves are each smaller than an olive-bulk, since they were broken from a large loaf, they are considered significant.


###### Menachot 75b:11
[Menachot 75b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Menachot/r/75b:11)

מַאי הָוֵי עֲלַהּ? רַב שֵׁשֶׁת אָמַר: אֲפִילּוּ פֵּירוּרִין שֶׁאֵין בָּהֶן כְּזַיִת. אָמַר רָבָא: וְהוּא דְּאִיכָּא תּוֹרִיתָא דְּנַהְמָא עֲלַיְיהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: With regard to the blessing recited on the cooked dish with pieces less than an olive-bulk in volume, **what** halakhic conclusion **was** reached **about it? Rav Sheshet says: Even** when eating **pieces** of bread **that do not have** the volume of **an olive-bulk,** one recites the blessing of: Who brings forth bread from the earth. **Rava said: And** this **is** limited to a case **where** the crumbs still **have the appearance [*torita*] of bread,** and they did not dissolve completely.