## Moed Katan Daf 24b

###### Moed Katan 24b:1
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אַבָּא שָׁאוּל אוֹמֵר: אַף בְּאִישׁ אֶחָד וּשְׁתֵּי נָשִׁים. וְאֵין עוֹמְדִין עָלָיו בְּשׁוּרָה. וְאֵין אוֹמְרִים עָלָיו בִּרְכַּת אֲבֵלִים וְתַנְחוּמֵי אֲבֵלִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abba Shaul says:** The infant may be taken out **even by one man and two women,** for there is no concern with regard to seclusion in a time of mourning. **And for** such an infant, people **do not stand in a line** to offer their condolences to the mourners, as is ordinarily done after a burial; **nor do** others **recite over him the mourners’ blessing,** which is recited in the courtyard of the graveyard after the burial; **nor** is the usual formula for the **consolation of mourners** recited during the seven days of mourning.


###### Moed Katan 24b:2
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בֶּן שְׁלֹשִׁים יוֹצֵא בִּדְלוֹסְקָמָא. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: לֹא דְּלוֹסְקָמָא הַנִּיטֶּלֶת בַּכָּתֵף, אֶלָּא הַנִּיטֶּלֶת בָּאֲגַפַּיִים. וְעוֹמְדִין עָלָיו בְּשׁוּרָה, וְאוֹמְרִים עָלָיו בִּרְכַּת אֲבֵלִים וְתַנְחוּמֵי אֲבֵלִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**A thirty-day-old** infant that dies **is taken out** for burial **in a coffin [*deluskema*]. Rabbi Yehuda says: Not in** a small **coffin that is carried on** one’s **shoulder, but rather** in a coffin that is carried **in the arms** of two people. **And for** such an infant, people **stand in a line** to offer their condolences to the mourners. **And** others **recite the mourners’ blessing** at the cemetery. **And** people recite **the consolation of mourners** during the week of mourning.


###### Moed Katan 24b:3
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בֶּן שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ יוֹצֵא בְּמִטָּה. רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר: הוּא בֶּן שָׁנָה וְאֵבָרָיו כְּבֶן שְׁתַּיִם, הוּא בֶּן שְׁתַּיִם וְאֵבָרָיו כְּבֶן שָׁנָה — יוֹצֵא בְּמִטָּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**A twelve-month-old** infant **is taken out** for burial **on a bier,** just as an adult is. **Rabbi Akiva says:** This *halakha* applies if the infant that dies **is one year old and his limbs are like** those of **a two year old,** so that he looks older, or if **he is two years old and his limbs are like** those of **a one-year-old.** Only then **he is taken out on a bier.**


###### Moed Katan 24b:4
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רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: הַיּוֹצֵא בְּמִטָּה — רַבִּים מַצְהִיבִין עָלָיו. אֵינוֹ יוֹצֵא בְּמִטָּה — אֵין רַבִּים מַצְהִיבִין עָלָיו. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן עֲזַרְיָה אוֹמֵר: נִיכָּר לָרַבִּים — רַבִּים מִתְעַסְּקִים עִמּוֹ, אֵינוֹ נִיכָּר לָרַבִּים — אֵין רַבִּים מִתְעַסְּקִים עִמּוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: For one that is taken out on a bier, the public should grieve [*matzhivin*]. For one that is not taken out on a bier, the public need not grieve. Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya says:** The *halakha* is as follows: If the infant was **known to the public,** because he regularly left the house and many people knew him, **the public must occupy themselves with him** and participate in his burial. If **he was not known to the public, the public need not occupy themselves with him.**


###### Moed Katan 24b:5
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וּמָה הֵן בְּהֶסְפֵּד? רַבִּי מֵאִיר בְּשֵׁם רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל אוֹמֵר: עֲנִיִּים — בְּנֵי שָׁלֹשׁ, עֲשִׁירִים — בְּנֵי חָמֵשׁ. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר מִשְּׁמוֹ: עֲנִיִּים — בְּנֵי חָמֵשׁ, עֲשִׁירִים — בְּנֵי שֵׁשׁ, וּבְנֵי זְקֵנִים — כִּבְנֵי עֲנִיִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And what is the** status of deceased infants **with regard to eulogy? Rabbi Meir said in the name of Rabbi Yishmael:** The children of **the poor** are eulogized from **the age of three,** whereas the children of **the wealthy** are eulogized from **the age of five.** This is because a child is the sole source of joy for the poor, and so the pain and grief of the poor over the death of a child is greater than that of the wealthy. **Rabbi Yehuda said in the name of** Rabbi Yishmael: The children of **the poor** are eulogized from **the age of five,** whereas the children of **the wealthy** are eulogized from **the age of six. And the children of the elderly are** treated **like the children of the poor,** for the death of a child is particularly painful for an older person.


###### Moed Katan 24b:6
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אָמַר רַב גִּידֵּל בַּר מְנַשְּׁיָא אָמַר רַב: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה שֶׁאָמַר מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Giddel bar Menashya said** that **Rav said: The *halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Yehuda, who stated it in the name of Rabbi Yishmael.**


###### Moed Katan 24b:7
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דָּרֵשׁ רַבִּי עֲנָנִי בַּר שָׂשׂוֹן אַפִּיתְחָא דְּבֵי נְשִׂיאָה: יוֹם אֶחָד לִפְנֵי עֲצֶרֶת וַעֲצֶרֶת — הֲרֵי כָּאן אַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר. שְׁמַע רַבִּי אַמֵּי וְאִיקְּפַד, אֲמַר: אַטּוּ דִּידֵיהּ הִיא? דְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא הִיא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Anani bar Sason taught at the entrance to the house of the *Nasi*:** If one suffered the loss of a close relative shortly before the festival of *Shavuot*, his **one day** of mourning **before *Shavuot* and *Shavuot*** itself together count as **fourteen** days. The day before the Festival counts as seven full days of mourning because the Festival interrupts the seven-day period of mourning, and the Festival itself is counted as a seven-day Festival. Even though it is a one-day Festival, it is counted as seven days because it has the same *halakha* as the other Festivals. After *Shavuot*, then, only sixteen days are left to complete the thirty-day mourning period. **Rabbi Ami heard** this **and became angry** with him. **He said: Is that to say** that it is **his own** opinion? **It is** the opinion **that Rabbi Elazar said** that **Rabbi Oshaya** said.


###### Moed Katan 24b:8
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דְּרַשׁ רַבִּי יִצְחָק נַפָּחָא אַקִּילְעָא דְּרֵישׁ גָּלוּתָא: יוֹם אֶחָד לִפְנֵי עֲצֶרֶת וַעֲצֶרֶת — הֲרֵי כָּאן אַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר. שְׁמַע רַב שֵׁשֶׁת אִיקְּפַד, אָמַר: אַטּוּ דִּידֵיהּ הִיא? דְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא הִיא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Similarly **Rabbi Yitzḥak Nappaḥa taught in the pavilion [*kila*] of the Exilarch:** If one’s relative died shortly before the festival of *Shavuot*, his **one day** of mourning **before *Shavuot* and *Shavuot*** itself count as **fourteen** days. **Rav Sheshet heard and became angry.** He **said: Is that to say** that it is **his own** opinion? **It is** the opinion **that Rabbi Elazar said** that **Rabbi Oshaya** said.


###### Moed Katan 24b:9
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דְּאָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: מִנַּיִן לָעֲצֶרֶת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהּ תַּשְׁלוּמִין כׇּל שִׁבְעָה — שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״בְּחַג הַמַּצּוֹת וּבְחַג הַשָּׁבוּעוֹת״, מָה חַג הַמַּצּוֹת יֵשׁ לָהּ תַּשְׁלוּמִין כׇּל שִׁבְעָה — אַף חַג הַשָּׁבוּעוֹת יֵשׁ לָהּ תַּשְׁלוּמִין כׇּל שִׁבְעָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
In both of these cases, a Sage presented an opinion as their own, without attributing it to the original Sage who stated it, **for Rabbi Elazar said** that **Rabbi Oshaya said: From where** is it derived **that the *Shavuot*** offerings **have redress all seven** subsequent **days?** That is to say, if someone failed to bring the Festival offering on the Festival itself, he has six more days to bring it. **As it is stated:** “Three times a year shall all your males appear before the Lord your God in the place that He shall choose; **on the festival of Passover, and on the festival of *Shavuot*,** and on the festival of *Sukkot*” (Deuteronomy 16:16). **Just as** the offerings of **the festival of Passover have redress all seven** days, as Passover is seven days long, **so too** the offerings of **the festival of *Shavuot* have redress all seven** days, during the week following *Shavuot*. From this we learn that *Shavuot* is treated like a seven-day Festival for all halakhic purposes.


###### Moed Katan 24b:10
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אַדְבְּרֵיהּ רַב פָּפָּא לְרַב אַוְיָא סָבָא וּדְרַשׁ: יוֹם אֶחָד לִפְנֵי רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה וְרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה — הֲרֵי כָּאן אַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר. אָמַר רָבִינָא, הִלְכָּךְ: יוֹם אֶחָד לִפְנֵי הֶחָג, וְחַג, וּשְׁמִינִי שֶׁלּוֹ — הֲרֵי כָּאן עֶשְׂרִים וְאֶחָד יוֹם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappa granted permission to Rav Avya the Elder** to speak **and he taught** the following in public: If one’s relative died shortly before Rosh HaShana, his **one day** of mourning **before Rosh HaShana and Rosh HaShana** itself together count as **fourteen** days, because Rosh HaShana is treated like a seven-day Festival. **Ravina said: Therefore,** if one’s relative died shortly before *Sukkot*, his **one day** of mourning **before the Festival** of *Sukkot*, **and the Festival** of *Sukkot* itself, which is seven days, **and its Eighth** day of Assembly, which is considered to be a separate Festival, count as **twenty-one** days, and he must observe only nine more days of mourning to complete the thirty-day period of mourning.


###### Moed Katan 24b:11
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רָבִינָא אִיקְּלַע לְסוּרָא דִפְרָת, אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב חֲבִיבָא מִסּוּרָא דִפְרָת לְרָבִינָא: אָמַר מָר, יוֹם אֶחָד לִפְנֵי רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה וְרֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה — הֲרֵי כָּאן אַרְבָּעָה עָשָׂר? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא, מִסְתַּבְּרָא כְּרַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הוּא דְּאָמֵינָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
It was related that **Ravina happened** to come **to** the city of **Sura on the Euphrates** River. **Rav Ḥaviva from Sura on the Euphrates said to Ravina:** Did the **Master say** that **one day** of mourning **before Rosh HaShana and Rosh HaShana** itself count **as fourteen** days? **He said to him: I said that it stands to reason** that this is so **according to Rabban Gamliel,** who maintains that Rosh HaShana is treated like a pilgrim Festival. But I did not rule in accordance with this opinion.


###### Moed Katan 24b:12
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**מַתְנִי׳** אֵין קוֹרְעִין וְלֹא חוֹלְצִין וְאֵין מַבְרִין אֶלָּא קְרוֹבָיו שֶׁל מֵת, וְאֵין מַבְרִין אֶלָּא עַל מִטָּה זְקוּפָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** Mourners **do not rend** their garments during the intermediate days of a Festival **and do not remove** their garments from their shoulders. **And** others **do not provide them with a meal [*mavrin*]** after the burial, **except for close relatives of the deceased. And** the consolers **provide the** first **meal** after the burial **only** while the mourner is sitting **on an upright bed,** and not on one that is overturned.