## Nedarim Daf 28b

###### Nedarim 28b:1
[Nedarim 28b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/28b:1)

אֵין לָהֶם פִּדְיוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
then **they are not subject to** the possibility of **redemption.**


###### Nedarim 28b:2
[Nedarim 28b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/28b:2)

**גְּמָ׳** וְלִיתְנֵי ״קְדוֹשׁוֹת וְאֵין קְדוֹשׁוֹת״! אַיְּידֵי דְבָעֵי לְמִיתְנָא סֵיפָא ״אֵין לָהֶם פִּדְיוֹן״, תְּנָא נָמֵי רֵישָׁא ״יֵשׁ לָהֶם פִּדְיוֹן״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara questions the language of the mishna: Why does the mishna utilize the wording: They have redemption and they do not have redemption? **Let** the mishna **teach: They are consecrated and they are not consecrated,** since the primary novelty is that they are consecrated, but not completely. The Gemara answers: **Since it wanted to teach** in **the latter clause** the phrase: **They are not subject to** the possibility of **redemption,** which cannot be expressed as: They are not consecrated, as they are consecrated, **it taught also the first clause** using the language: **They are subject to** the possibility of **redemption.**


###### Nedarim 28b:3
[Nedarim 28b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/28b:3)

הֵיכִי נָדַר? אָמַר אַמֵּימָר: בְּאוֹמֵר ״אִם אֵינָן נִקְצָצוֹת הַיּוֹם״, וְעָבַר הַיּוֹם וְלֹא נִקְצְצוּ. אִם כֵּן לְמָה לִי לְמֵימַר? פְּשִׁיטָא! לָא צְרִיכָא כְּגוֹן דְּאִיכָּא זִיקָא נְפִישָׁא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara elaborates: **How did he take a vow?** What was the precise language that he used? **Ameimar said: Where he says:** These saplings are like an offering **if they are not cut** down **today, and the day passed and they were not cut** down. The Gemara asks: **If so, why do I** need **to say** that they are consecrated? Isn’t it **obvious** that his vow takes effect? The Gemara answers: **No, it is necessary** in a case **where there is a great** strong **wind** and he thought that they would be uprooted by the wind.


###### Nedarim 28b:4
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וְהָא קָתָנֵי לַהּ גַּבֵּי טַלִּית, וְטַלִּית לִשְׂרֵיפָה קָיְימָא? [אִין] כְּגוֹן דְּאִיכָּא דְּלֵיקָה. הָכָא נָמֵי, דְּאִיכָּא זִיקָא נְפִישָׁא, וְסָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ דְּמַסֵּיק אַדַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּלָא מִיתְנַצְלָן וּמִשּׁוּם הָכִי קָא נָדַר, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But isn’t this taught together with** the case of **a garment,** indicating that the two are equivalent, **and** is **a garment ready for burning,** i.e., is it assumed that it will burn? The Gemara answers: **Yes,** in a case **where there is a fire.** The Gemara explains: **Here also there is a great** strong **wind, and** it **enters your mind that one raised in his mind** the possibility **that** the saplings **will not be saved, and due to that** reason **he took a vow.** Since in any event he assumes he will lose the saplings, perhaps he did not really intend to consecrate them. The mishna **teaches us** that in spite of this it is still considered a vow.


###### Nedarim 28b:5
[Nedarim 28b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/28b:5)

הֲרֵי נְטִיעוֹת הָאֵלּוּ קׇרְבָּן כּוּ׳. וּלְעוֹלָם? אָמַר בַּר פְּדָא: פְּדָאָן — חוֹזְרוֹת וְקוֹדְשׁוֹת, פְּדָאָן — חוֹזְרוֹת וְקוֹדְשׁוֹת, עַד שֶׁיִּקָּצְצוּ. נִקְצְצוּ — פּוֹדָן פַּעַם אַחַת וְדַיּוֹ. וְעוּלָּא אָמַר: כֵּיוָן שֶׁנִּקְצְצוּ — שׁוּב אֵין פּוֹדָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna states that if he said: **These saplings are** like **an offering** until they are cut down, they are not subject to the possibility of redemption. The Gemara asks: **And** are they not subject to redemption **forever? Bar Padda said:** If he **redeemed them, they become consecrated again,** as they have not yet been cut down. **If** he **redeemed them** again, **they become consecrated again, until they are cut** down. Once **they are cut** down, **he redeems them once and it is sufficient. And Ulla said: Once they are cut** down one does **not** need to **redeem them again** because they are no longer consecrated.