## Nedarim Daf 5a

###### Nedarim 5a:1
[Nedarim 5a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:1)

אֲבָל אָמַר ״מוּדְּרַנִי הֵימָךְ״ לְחוֹדֵיהּ — שְׁנֵיהֶן אֲסוּרִין. כִּי הָא דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי חֲנִינָא: ״מוּדְּרַנִי הֵימָךְ״ — שְׁנֵיהֶן אֲסוּרִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**However,** if **he said only: I am avowed from you, they are both prohibited** from deriving benefit from one another. This is **like that which Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Ḥanina, said:** If one says: **I am avowed from you, they are both prohibited.**


###### Nedarim 5a:2
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תְּנַן: ״הֲרֵינִי עָלֶיךָ חֵרֶם״ — הַמּוּדָּר אָסוּר, אֲבָל מַדִּיר לָא. כְּגוֹן דְּפָרֵישׁ: ״וְאַתְּ עֲלַי לָא״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **We learned** in a mishna (47b) that if one says to another: **I am hereby to you** like an item **dedicated** to the Temple, **the one to whom the vow was said is prohibited** from deriving benefit from the one who made the vow, **but the one who made the vow is not** prohibited from deriving benefit from the one with regard to whom the vow was said. However, according to Shmuel, both should be prohibited. The Gemara answers: It is referring to a case **where he specified** this by saying: **And you are not** like an item dedicated to the Temple **for me.**


###### Nedarim 5a:3
[Nedarim 5a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:3)

״אַתְּ עָלַי חֵרֶם״ — הַנּוֹדֵר אָסוּר, אֲבָל מוּדָּר לָא. כְּגוֹן דְּפָרֵישׁ: ״וַאֲנָא עֲלָךְ לָא״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: That mishna also taught that if one says: **You are to me** like an item **dedicated** to the Temple, **the one who makes the vow is prohibited** to derive benefit from the other, **but the one to whom the vow was said is not** prohibited from deriving benefit from the one who makes the vow. However, according to Shmuel, both should be prohibited. The Gemara answers: Here too, it is referring to a case **where he specified** this by saying: **And I am not** like an item dedicated to the Temple **for you.**


###### Nedarim 5a:4
[Nedarim 5a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:4)

אֲבָל סְתָמָא מַאי? שְׁנֵיהֶן אֲסוּרִים. הָא מִדְּקָתָנֵי סֵיפָא: ״הֲרֵינִי עָלֶיךָ וְאַתְּ עָלַי״, שְׁנֵיהֶן אֲסוּרִים, הָדֵין הוּא דִּשְׁנֵיהֶם אֲסוּרִין, הָא סְתָמָא — הוּא אָסוּר וַחֲבֵרוֹ מוּתָּר!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But** if he stated his vow in an **unspecified** manner, **what, are they both prohibited** from deriving benefit from each other? **From** the fact **that it teaches in the latter clause** that if one says to another: **I am hereby to you, and you are to me,** like an item dedicated to the Temple, **they are both prohibited** from deriving benefit from each other, it can be derived that **it is in this** case **both are prohibited, but** if one stated his vow in an **unspecified** manner, **he is prohibited** from deriving benefit from the other individual **and the other is permitted** to derive benefit from him. This is not in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel.


###### Nedarim 5a:5
[Nedarim 5a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:5)

אֶלָּא הָכִי אִתְּמַר דְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי בְּרַבִּי חֲנִינָא: ״מוּדָּר אֲנִי לָךְ״ — שְׁנֵיהֶם אֲסוּרִין, ״מוּדְּרַנִי הֵימָךְ״ — הוּא אָסוּר וַחֲבֵרוֹ מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, this is** how the opinion **of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Ḥanina, was stated:** If one said to another: **I am avowed to you, they are both prohibited** from deriving benefit from one another. However, if he says: **I am avowed from you, he is prohibited** from deriving benefit from the other person **and the other is permitted** to derive benefit from him.


###### Nedarim 5a:6
[Nedarim 5a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:6)

וְהָא מַתְנִיתִין דְּקָתָנֵי ״הֵימָךְ״, וְאוֹקִימְנָא לְמַתְנִיתִין לִשְׁמוּאֵל: בְּכוּלָּן עַד שֶׁיֹּאמַר ״שֶׁאֲנִי טוֹעֵם לָךְ״ וְ״שֶׁאֲנִי אוֹכֵל לָךְ״, הוּא דְּאָסוּר וַחֲבֵרוֹ מוּתָּר, אֲבָל בְּ״מוּדְּרַנִי הֵימָךְ״, שְׁנֵיהֶם אֲסוּרִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But didn’t the mishna teach** a case of one who declared: I am avowed **from you, and** yet **we established the mishna, according to Shmuel,** as teaching that **in all these** cases **it is only** if **he says: That** which **I taste** of **yours, or: That** which **I eat** of **yours, that he is prohibited** from deriving benefit from the other person, **and the other is permitted? However,** if he merely says: **I am avowed from you, they are both prohibited.** Consequently, Shmuel does not distinguish between the expressions: I am avowed from you, and: I am avowed to you.


###### Nedarim 5a:7
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אֶלָּא מֵעִיקָּרָא דִּשְׁמוּאֵל הָכִי אִיתְּמַר: טַעְמָא דְּאָמַר ״שֶׁאֲנִי אוֹכֵל לָךְ״ וְ״שֶׁאֲנִי טוֹעֵם לָךְ״ הוּא דְּאֵין הוּא אָסוּר אֶלָּא בַּאֲכִילָה. הָא ״מוּדְּרַנִי מִמְּךָ״ — אָסוּר אֲפִילּוּ בַּהֲנָאָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, this is how** the opinion **of Shmuel was originally stated: The reason is that he said: That** which **I eat** of **yours, or: That** which **I taste** of **yours.** It is for this reason **that he is prohibited only from eating** anything belonging to the other person. However, if he said: **I am avowed from you,** without further specification, **he is prohibited even from** deriving any form of **benefit** from the other.


###### Nedarim 5a:8
[Nedarim 5a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:8)

אִי הָכִי, לֵימָא שְׁמוּאֵל הָכִי: וְאִם לָא אָמַר אֶלָּא ״שֶׁאֲנִי אוֹכֵל לָךְ״ וְ״שֶׁאֲנִי טוֹעֵם לָךְ״, אֵין אָסוּר אֶלָּא בַּאֲכִילָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **If so, let Shmuel say as follows: And if he said only: That** which **I eat** of **yours, or: That** which **I taste** of **yours, he is prohibited only from eating** an item belonging to his fellow, but he is permitted to derive benefit from it.


###### Nedarim 5a:9
[Nedarim 5a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Nedarim/r/5a:9)

אֶלָּא הָכִי אִיתְּמַר: טַעְמָא דְּאָמַר ״שֶׁאֲנִי אוֹכֵל לָךְ״ וְ״שֶׁאֲנִי טוֹעֵם לָךְ״, הוּא דְּאָסוּר. אֲבָל אָמַר ״מוּדְּרַנִי הֵימָךְ״ — לָא מַשְׁמַע דְּאָמַר אָסוּר. מַאי טַעְמָא: ״מוּדָּר אֲנִי מִמָּךְ״ — לָא מִשְׁתַּעֵינָא בַּהֲדָךְ מַשְׁמַע. ״מוּפְרְשַׁנִי מִמָּךְ״ — דְּלָא עָבֵידְנָא עִמָּךְ מַשָּׂא וּמַתָּן מַשְׁמַע. ״מְרוּחֲקַנִי מִמָּךְ״ — דְּלָא קָאֵימְנָא בְּאַרְבַּע אַמּוֹת דִּילָךְ מַשְׁמַע.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, this is** how Shmuel’s opinion **was stated: The reason is that he said: That** which **I eat** of **yours, or: That** which **I taste** of **yours; it is** in these cases **that he is prohibited** from eating any item belonging to his fellow. **However,** if **he said** simply: **I am avowed from you,** that statement **does not indicate that he said** he is **prohibited** from eating an item belonging to his fellow. **What is the reason** for this? The statement: **I am avowed from you, indicates: I am not speaking with you.** Similarly, the statement: **I am separated from you, indicates: I am not doing business with you.** The statement: **I am distanced from you, indicates that I will not stand within four cubits of you.**