## Nedarim Daf 69a

###### Nedarim 69a:1
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שָׁמַע אָבִיהָ וְהֵפֵר לָהּ, וְלֹא הִסְפִּיק הַבַּעַל לִשְׁמוֹעַ עַד שֶׁמֵּת — חוֹזֵר הָאָב וּמֵפֵר חֶלְקוֹ שֶׁל בַּעַל. אָמַר רַבִּי נָתָן: הֵן הֵן דִּבְרֵי בֵּית שַׁמַּאי. בֵּית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: אֵין יָכוֹל לְהָפֵר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If **her father heard and nullified** the vow **for her, and the husband did not manage to hear** of the vow **before he died, the father may go back and nullify** the **husband’s portion,** and that will complete the nullification of her vow. **Rabbi Natan said: This** last ruling **is the statement of Beit Shammai,** but **Beit Hillel say** that **he cannot nullify** only the husband’s share of the vow but must also nullify his own share again.


###### Nedarim 69a:2
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שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ: לְבֵית שַׁמַּאי מִיגָּז גָּיֵיז, לְבֵית הִלֵּל מִקְלָשׁ קָלֵישׁ. שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Having completed its citation of the *baraita*, the Gemara now states its proof: **Conclude from this** that, **according to** the opinion of **Beit Shammai,** whoever nullifies the vow first completely **severs** his half of the vow, and therefore the father needed only to nullify the part left by the husband. However, **according to** the opinion of **Beit Hillel,** his nullification **weakens** the general force of the vow, so the father’s subsequent nullification must address the whole vow. The Gemara rules: **Conclude from this** *baraita* that the husband’s nullification weakens the general force of the vow, as the *halakha* is in accordance with Beit Hillel.


###### Nedarim 69a:3
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בָּעֵי רָבָא: יֵשׁ שְׁאֵלָה בְּהָקֵם, אוֹ אֵין שְׁאֵלָה בְּהָקֵם? אִם תִּמְצָא לוֹמַר יֵשׁ שְׁאֵלָה בְּהָקֵם: יֵשׁ שְׁאֵלָה בְּהָפֵר, אוֹ אֵין שְׁאֵלָה בְּהָפֵר?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rava raises a dilemma: Is there** the possibility of **a request** to a halakhic authority **about** dissolving the **ratification** of one’s wife’s vow, **or is there no** possibility of **a request** to a halakhic authority **about** dissolving his **ratification** of one’s wife’s vow? One might seek to dissolve one’s ratification if he now desires to nullify the vow. Furthermore, **if you say** that there is the possibility of **a request to** dissolve his **ratification, is there** the possibility of **a request** to a halakhic authority **about** dissolving **nullification** of his wife’s vow, to allow him to ratify the vow in place of nullifying it? **Or is there no** possibility of **a request to** dissolve the **nullification** of his wife’s vow?


###### Nedarim 69a:4
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תָּא שְׁמַע דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: נִשְׁאָלִין עַל הֶהָקֵם, וְאֵין נִשְׁאָלִין עַל הֶהָפֵר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Come** and **hear** that **which Rabbi Yoḥanan says:** A halakhic authority **may be requested to** dissolve **ratification** of one’s wife’s vow **but may not be requested to** dissolve **nullification.**


###### Nedarim 69a:5
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בָּעֵי רַבָּה: ״קַיָּים לִיכִי, קַיָּים לִיכִי״, וְנִשְׁאַל עַל הֲקָמָה רִאשׁוֹנָה, מַהוּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabba asks:** If, after hearing one’s wife or one’s daughter’s vow, one said: **It is ratified for you, it is ratified for you, and** then a halakhic authority **was requested about the first ratification** and dissolved it, but one did not request dissolution of the second ratification, **what is** the *halakha*? Is the second ratification in force, or is it irrelevant, as it was performed on an vow that was already ratified and consequently never took effect?


###### Nedarim 69a:6
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תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רָבָא: אִם נִשְׁאַל עַל הָרִאשׁוֹנָה — שְׁנִיָּה חָלָה עָלָיו. בָּעֵי רַבָּה: ״קַיָּים לִיכִי, וּמוּפָר לִיכִי, וְלָא תֵּיחוּל הֲקָמָה אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן חָלָה הֲפָרָה״, מַהוּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Come** and **hear** that **which Rava said** with regard to one who said: I take an oath that I will not eat, I take an oath that I will not eat: **If** a halakhic authority **was requested to** dissolve **the first** oath and dissolved it, the **second** oath **goes into effect for him.** Similarly, the second ratification goes into effect. **Rabba** further **asks:** If he said to her: The vow is **ratified for you and nullified for you, and the ratification will not take effect unless the nullification takes effect, what is** the *halakha*?