## Niddah Daf 65a

###### Niddah 65a:1
[Niddah 65a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:1)

״עַד שֶׁתִּחְיֶה הַמַּכָּה״ תְּנַן!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
in accordance with the ruling of the mishna: The Sages give her four nights, then he should have given her longer, as **we learned** in the mishna that according to Beit Hillel the blood may be attributed to the torn hymen **until the wound heals.**


###### Niddah 65a:2
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אֶלָּא דְּיָהֵיב לַהּ כּוּלְּהוּ בִּימֵי נַעֲרוּת — נַעֲרוּת שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ מִי אִיכָּא? וְהָא אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: אֵין בֵּין נַעֲרוּת לְבַגְרוּת אֶלָּא שִׁשָּׁה חֳדָשִׁים בִּלְבָד! וְכִי תֵימָא בְּצִיר מֵהָכִי הוּא דְּלֵיכָּא, הָא טְפֵי אִיכָּא — הָא ״בִּלְבָד״ קָאָמַר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** you will say **that he gave her** these four nights **all** during her **days** as **a young woman. Are there twelve months** when one has the status of **a young woman? But didn’t Shmuel say: The difference** in time **between** becoming **a young woman and** becoming **a grown woman is only six months? And if you would say** that Shmuel is saying that it is in **less than** six months **that there is no** transition from young woman to grown woman status, but **there is** such a transition in **more** than six months, as women develop differently, that is not so, **as** Shmuel **said: Only,** which indicates that the period is neither less nor more than six months.


###### Niddah 65a:3
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אֶלָּא, דְּיָהֵיב לַהּ שְׁתַּיִם בִּימֵי קַטְנוּת וּשְׁתַּיִם בִּימֵי נַעֲרוּת, הָא בְּעָא מִינֵּיהּ רַב חִינָּנָא בַּר שֶׁלֶמְיָא מֵרַב: הִגִּיעַ זְמַנָּהּ לִרְאוֹת תַּחַת בַּעְלָהּ, מַהוּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** you will suggest **that** Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **gave her two** days **during** her **days as a minor, and** he gave her **two** days **during** her **days as a young woman.** This too is difficult, as **Rav Ḥinnana bar Shelamya asked Rav:** With regard to a young girl who married before she reached puberty, and then **her time to see** menstrual blood **arrived** while she was **under** the authority of **her husband, what is** the *halakha*? Does she have the four nights when the blood is considered to be from her torn hymen?


###### Niddah 65a:4
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אֲמַר לֵיהּ: כׇּל בְּעִילוֹת שֶׁאַתָּה בּוֹעֵל — אֵינָן אֶלָּא אַחַת, וְהַשְּׁאָר מַשְׁלִימִין לְאַרְבָּעָה לֵילוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And Rav **said to him: All the acts of intercourse that you engage in** while she is still too young **are** considered as **only one** act of intercourse, **and the remainder,** i.e., three more acts of intercourse, **complete** the total number of **four nights.** If so, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi could not have given her two nights as a minor, since at most those acts of intercourse count as one.


###### Niddah 65a:5
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אֶלָּא, דְּיָהֵיב לַהּ אַחַת בִּימֵי קַטְנוּת, וּשְׁתַּיִם בִּימֵי נַעֲרוּת, וְאַחַת בִּימֵי בַּגְרוּת. אִי אָמְרַתְּ בִּשְׁלָמָא בּוֹגֶרֶת בְּעָלְמָא יָהֲבִינַן לַהּ טְפֵי, כִּי הֵיכִי דְּאַהֲנַי קַטְנוּת בִּימֵי נַעֲרוּת לְמִבְצַר לַהּ חֲדָא, אַהֲנַי נָמֵי נַעֲרוּת לְבַגְרוּת לְמִבְצַר לַהּ חֲדָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** you will suggest **that he gave her one** night **during her days as a minor, and two** nights **during her days as a young woman, and one** night **during her days as a grown woman.** But this is also difficult: **Granted, if you say** that **we generally give a grown woman more** than one night, then one can understand why Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi gave her one night in this case: **Just as** all the acts of intercourse she engaged in as **a minor have the effect to deduct one** night **for** her **days as a young woman,** similarly all the acts of intercourse she engaged in while **a young woman have the effect to deduct one** night **for** her days as **a grown woman,** leaving her with one.


###### Niddah 65a:6
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אֶלָּא אִי אָמְרַתְּ בּוֹגֶרֶת דְּעָלְמָא לָא יָהֲבִינַן לַהּ טְפֵי — לָא לִיתֵּב לַהּ אֶלָּא בְּעִילַת מִצְוָה, וְתוּ לָא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But if you say** that **we generally do not give a grown woman more** than one night, then in this case Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **should** have **given her** as a grown woman **only** the one act of **relations** that consummate a marriage, which are **a mitzva,** i.e., merely a single act of intercourse, **and nothing more,** as otherwise the acts of intercourse before she became a grown woman would not have affected her status.


###### Niddah 65a:7
[Niddah 65a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:7)

לְעוֹלָם, דְּיָהֵיב לַהּ אַחַת בִּימֵי קַטְנוּת וְשָׁלֹשׁ בִּימֵי נַעֲרוּת. מִי סָבְרַתְּ כֹּל תְּלָתָא יַרְחֵי — חֲדָא עוֹנָה? כֹּל תְּרֵי יַרְחֵי — חֲדָא עוֹנָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Actually,** the correct explanation is **that** Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **gave her one** night **during her days as a minor and three** nights **during her days as a young woman.** And as for the fact that she has the status of a young woman for only exactly six months, **do you maintain** that **every three months** was counted as **one period** of the husband’s absence, such that she had only two nights in six months? This is not the case. Rather, **every two months** was counted as **one period,** and therefore she had three nights during these six months when she could attribute the blood to her torn hymen.


###### Niddah 65a:8
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מִנְיָמִין סַקְסְנָאָה הֲוָה שָׁקֵיל וְאָזֵיל לְאַתְרֵיהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל, סְבַר לְמֶעְבַּד עוֹבָדָא כְּוָותֵיהּ דְּרַב, אֲפִילּוּ רָאֲתָה. אֲמַר: לָא פָּלֵיג רַב בֵּין רָאֲתָה בֵּין לֹא רָאֲתָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates that the Sage **Minyamin Saksana was coming and walking to the place of Shmuel. He thought** that he **would perform an action in accordance** with the opinion **of Rav,** in that he would permit a grown woman to attribute blood to her torn hymen for the entire first night, **even** though she had already **seen** menstrual blood before she was married. Minyamin mistakenly **said** to himself: **Rav does not distinguish between** a woman who **has seen** menstrual blood **and** a woman who **has not seen** menstrual blood.


###### Niddah 65a:9
[Niddah 65a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:9)

קְדֵים שְׁכֵיב בְּאוֹרְחָא, קָרֵי שְׁמוּאֵל עֲלֵיהּ דְּרַב ״לֹא יְאֻנֶּה לַצַּדִּיק כׇּל אָוֶן״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Before** Minyamin reached Shmuel’s place, **he passed away on the road,** and he never completed the journey. Upon hearing this, **Shmuel recited** this verse **about Rav: “No mishap shall befall the righteous”** (Proverbs 12:21), i.e., God does not allow prohibited acts to come from the statements of the righteous. In this case, Minyamin ruled incorrectly, based on a misunderstanding of Rav’s statement.


###### Niddah 65a:10
[Niddah 65a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:10)

אָמַר רַב חִינָּנָא בַּר שֶׁלֶמְיָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב: כֵּיוָן שֶׁנִּתְּקוּ שִׁנָּיו שֶׁל אָדָם, נִתְמַעֲטוּ מְזוֹנוֹתָיו, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״גַּם אָנֹכִי נָתַתִּי לָךְ נִקְיוֹן שִׁנַּיִם בְּכׇל עָרֵיכֶם וְחוֹסֶר לֶחֶם בְּכֹל מְקוֹמוֹתֵיכֶם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Since the Gemara cited Rav Ḥinnana bar Shelamya, it cites another of his statements: **Rav Ḥinnana bar Shelamya said in the name of Rav: Once a person’s teeth fall out** and he has difficulty eating, **his food diminshes** accordingly, **as it is stated: “And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and lack of bread in all your places”** (Amos 4:6). The term “cleanness of teeth” is here a euphemism for having no teeth at all, which leads to a lack of bread.


###### Niddah 65a:11
[Niddah 65a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:11)

רָאֲתָה וְעוֹדָהּ. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: רָאֲתָה וְעוֹדָהּ בְּבֵית אָבִיהָ, בֵּית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: כׇּל הַלַּיְלָה שֶׁלָּהּ, וְנוֹתְנִין לָהּ עוֹנָה שְׁלֵמָה. וְכַמָּה עוֹנָה שְׁלֵמָה? פֵּירֵשׁ רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל: לַיְלָה וַחֲצִי יוֹם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches: In the case of a young woman who **saw** menstrual blood before marriage, while **she was still** in her father’s house, Beit Hillel say: They may engage in several acts of intercourse, as any bleeding throughout the entire night is attributed to the torn hymen. **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: In the case of a young woman who **saw** menstrual blood while **she was still in her father’s house, Beit Hillel say: All the night is hers, and** the Sages **give her** one **complete period** of time during which she may attribute all bleeding to her torn hymen. **And how long is a complete period** of time in this context? **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel explained** that it is one **night and half** of the next **day.**


###### Niddah 65a:12
[Niddah 65a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/65a:12)

וּמִי בָּעֵינַן כּוּלֵּי הַאי? וּרְמִינְהִי: הֲרֵי שֶׁהָיוּ גִּתָּיו וּבֵית בַּדָּיו טְמֵאוֹת, וּבִקֵּשׁ לַעֲשׂוֹתָן בְּטָהֳרָה, כֵּיצַד הוּא עוֹשֶׂה? הַדַּפִּין וְהַלּוּלָבִין וְהָעֲדָשִׁין — מְדִיחָן,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But do we require all this** time of one night and half of a day for a complete period? **And** the Gemara **raises a contradiction** from a *baraita*: In the case of one **whose winepresses or olive presses were impure and he wished to prepare** his grapes and olives **in** a state of **ritual purity, how does he act?** He should **rinse the planks** used to press the grapes in the winepress, **and the palm branches** used as brooms, **and the troughs,**