## Niddah Daf 72a

###### Niddah 72a:1
[Niddah 72a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:1)

וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: פְּטוּרִים מִן הַקׇּרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Beit Hillel say:** Although they transmit impurity to items designated for lying or sitting, **they are exempt from** bringing **the** sin **offering.** Since the twelfth day is unfit for the flow of a *zava*, and even if she were to experience bleeding on the eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth days she would not become a greater *zava*, one who experiences bleeding on the eleventh does not need to observe a corresponding clean day.


###### Niddah 72a:2
[Niddah 72a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:2)

טָבְלָה בַּיּוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו, וְשִׁמְּשָׁה אֶת בֵּיתָהּ, וְאַחַר כָּךְ רָאֲתָה — בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: מְטַמְּאִין מִשְׁכָּב וּמוֹשָׁב, וּפְטוּרִין מִן הַקׇּרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the woman **immersed on the day following** the eleventh day **and she engaged in intercourse with** the man of **her house,** i.e., her husband, on that twelfth day **and then saw** blood, **Beit Shammai say: They transmit impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting** by rabbinic law, as the Sages issued a decree of impurity in the case when the second day is the twelfth day, due to a case when the second day is within the eleven days fit for the flow of a *zava*. **And they are exempt from** bringing **the** sin **offering,** as she observed part of the twelfth day, and the bleeding she experienced after engaging in intercourse, which occurred during her period of menstruation, is not fit to be appended to the discharge of the *zava* on the eleventh day.


###### Niddah 72a:3
[Niddah 72a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:3)

וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: הֲרֵי זֶה גַּרְגְּרָן, וּמוֹדִים בְּרוֹאָה בְּתוֹךְ אַחַד עָשָׂר יוֹם, וְטָבְלָה לָעֶרֶב וְשִׁמְּשָׁה — שֶׁמְּטַמְּאִין מִשְׁכָּב וּמוֹשָׁב, וְחַיָּיבִין בְּקׇרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Beit Hillel say: That** husband **is a glutton,** as he could not wait for the conclusion of the twelfth day before engaging in intercourse. Nevertheless, the Sages did not issue a decree of impurity. **And** Beit Hillel **concede** to Beit Shammai **in** a case where the woman **sees** blood **in the midst of the eleven-day** period, **and she immersed in the evening and engaged in intercourse** with her husband without observing a corresponding clean day, **that they transmit impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting. And** each of them is **liable to** bring a sin **offering** for participating in intercourse involving a *zava*.


###### Niddah 72a:4
[Niddah 72a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:4)

טָבְלָה בַּיּוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו, וְשִׁמְּשָׁה — הֲרֵי זֶה תַּרְבּוּת רָעָה, וּמַגָּעָן וּבְעִילָתָן תְּלוּיִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If she saw blood in the midst of the eleven days and observed part of a corresponding clean day and **immersed on the day following** the day that she saw blood **and engaged in intercourse** with her husband, **that is wayward conduct,** as the possibility exists that she will experience bleeding after intercourse that will be appended to the bleeding of the previous day, rendering her a *zava* and disqualifying the immersion. **And** the status of ritually impure items with which **they came into contact and** the status of **their intercourse is contingent** upon whether she experiences bleeding on the day of her immersion, in which case the ritually pure items become impure and they are liable to bring a sin offering, or whether she does not experience bleeding that day, in which case the ritually pure items remain pure and the woman and man are exempt from bringing a sin offering.


###### Niddah 72a:5
[Niddah 72a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:5)

**גְּמָ'** תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: וְשָׁוִין בִּטְבִילַת לַיְלָה לְזָבָה — שֶׁאֵינָהּ טְבִילָה, וְשָׁוִין בְּרוֹאָה בְּתוֹךְ אַחַד עָשָׂר יוֹם וְטָבְלָה לָעֶרֶב וְשִׁמְּשָׁה — שֶׁמְּטַמְּאָה מִשְׁכָּב וּמוֹשָׁב, וְחַיָּיבִין בְּקׇרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: **And** Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel **agree with regard to** a woman who **immersed** at **night to** purify herself after having been a lesser ***zava*, that it is not** a valid **immersion. And** Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel also **agree with regard to** a woman **who sees** blood **in the midst of** her **eleven days** of *ziva*, rendering her a lesser *zava* who must wait one clean day and immerse the day after, **but** she **immersed in the** first **evening** without waiting one clean day **and engaged in intercourse** with her husband, **that she transmits impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting** that came in contact with the couple, **and** she and her husband **are liable to** bring a sin **offering.**


###### Niddah 72a:6
[Niddah 72a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:6)

לֹא נֶחְלְקוּ אֶלָּא בְּיוֹם אַחַד עָשָׂר יוֹם, שֶׁבֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: מְטַמְּאִין מִשְׁכָּב וּמוֹשָׁב וְחַיָּיבִין בְּקׇרְבָּן, וּבֵית הִלֵּל פּוֹטְרִין מִקׇּרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**They disagree only in** the case of a woman who sees blood on the **eleventh day** of her days of *ziva*, and immersed that evening, and engaged in intercourse with her husband. **As Beit Shammai say: They transmit impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting and are liable to** bring a sin **offering, and Beit Hillel deem** them **exempt from** bringing a sin **offering.**


###### Niddah 72a:7
[Niddah 72a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:7)

אָמְרוּ לָהֶן בֵּית שַׁמַּאי לְבֵית הִלֵּל: מַאי שְׁנָא יוֹם אַחַד עָשָׂר מִיּוֹם תּוֹךְ אַחַד עָשָׂר? אִם שָׁיוָה לוֹ לַטּוּמְאָה, לֹא יִשְׁוֶה לוֹ לַקׇּרְבָּן?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: **Beit Shammai said to Beit Hillel: What the difference** between the **eleventh day** itself and another **day in the midst of** the **eleven** days of *ziva*? **If you equate** the eleventh day to the other days **with regard to ritual impurity,** will you **not equate it with regard to** liability to bring **an offering?**


###### Niddah 72a:8
[Niddah 72a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:8)

אָמְרוּ לָהֶן בֵּית הִלֵּל לְבֵית שַׁמַּאי: לֹא, אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְּתוֹךְ אַחַד עָשָׂר יוֹם, שֶׁכֵּן יוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו מִצְטָרֵף עִמּוֹ לְזִיבָה, תֹּאמְרוּ בְּיוֹם אַחַד עָשָׂר, שֶׁאֵין יוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו מִצְטָרֵף עִמּוֹ לְזִיבָה?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Beit Hillel said to Beit Shammai: No, if you say** that she is liable to bring an offering if she experiences bleeding **in the midst of the eleven days,** that is **because the following day combines with it** as a day **of *ziva*. Will you say** the same **with regard to** the **eleventh day, when the following day does not combine with it** as a day **of *ziva*?**


###### Niddah 72a:9
[Niddah 72a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:9)

אָמְרוּ לָהֶם בֵּית שַׁמַּאי: הַשְׁווּ מִדּוֹתֵיכֶם! אִם שָׁיוָה לוֹ לַטּוּמְאָה — יִשְׁוֶה לוֹ לַקׇּרְבָּן, וְאִם לֹא שָׁיוָה לוֹ לַקׇּרְבָּן — לֹא יִשְׁוֶה לוֹ לַטּוּמְאָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Beit Shammai said to** Beit Hillel: **Apply your method equally. If you equate** the two cases, bleeding on the eleventh day and bleeding on one of the other days of *ziva*, **with regard to ritual impurity, equate** them also **with regard to** liability to bring **an offering. And if** you **do not equate** them **with regard to** liability to bring **an offering, do not equate** them **with regard to ritual impurity** either.


###### Niddah 72a:10
[Niddah 72a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:10)

אָמְרוּ לָהֶם בֵּית הִלֵּל: אִם הֲבֵיאנוּהוּ לִידֵי טוּמְאָה לְהַחֲמִיר, לֹא נְבִיאֵהוּ לִידֵי קׇרְבָּן לְהָקֵל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Beit Hillel said to** Beit Shammai: Even **if we have brought** a woman who experiences bleeding on the eleventh day and the man who engages in intercourse with her **to ritual impurity,** due to a decree **to be stringent,** so that people should not confuse one who experiences bleeding on the eleventh day with one who experiences bleeding during the other days with regard to ritual impurity, **we will not bring** them **to** the liability of bringing **an offering, to be lenient.** It would be a leniency to permit them to bring an unnecessary and therefore a non-sacred animal into the Temple courtyard.


###### Niddah 72a:11
[Niddah 72a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:11)

וְעוֹד מִדִּבְרֵיכֶם אַתֶּם נוֹשְׁכִין, שֶׁאַתֶּם אוֹמְרִין: טָבְלָה יוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו, וְשִׁמְּשָׁה, וְאַחַר כָּךְ רָאֲתָה — מְטַמֵּא מִשְׁכָּב וּמוֹשָׁב, וּפְטוּרָה מִן הַקׇּרְבָּן. אַף אַתֶּם הַשְׁווּ מִדּוֹתֵיכֶם: אִם שָׁיוָה לוֹ לַטּוּמְאָה, יִשְׁוֶה לוֹ לַקׇּרְבָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And furthermore, from your** own **statement you are refuted, as you say** that if **she immersed on the following day and engaged in intercourse, and afterward she saw** blood, **she transmits impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting, but she is exempt from** bringing **the offering. You too** should **apply your method equally. If you equate** a *zava* who immersed on the twelfth day with one who immersed on the night after the eleventh day **with regard to ritual impurity, equate** these cases also **with regard to** liability to bring **an offering.**


###### Niddah 72a:12
[Niddah 72a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:12)

וְאִם לֹא שָׁיוָה לוֹ לְקׇרְבָּן, לֹא יִשְׁוֶה לוֹ לַטּוּמְאָה! אֶלָּא לְהַחְמִיר וְלֹא לְהָקֵל; הָכָא נָמֵי — לְהַחְמִיר וְלֹא לְהָקֵל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you do not equate** them **with regard to** liability to bring **an offering, do not equate** them **with regard to ritual impurity** either. Beit Hillel continued: **Rather,** you agree with us that the two are equated **to be stringent, but not to be lenient.** We say that **here too,** the two should be equated **to be stringent but not to be lenient.**


###### Niddah 72a:13
[Niddah 72a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:13)

אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: מִשְׁכָּבָהּ וּמוֹשָׁבָהּ שֶׁבַּשֵּׁנִי, בֵּית שַׁמַּאי מְטַמְּאִין, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁטָּבְלָה, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא רָאֲתָה. מַאי טַעְמָא? כֵּיוָן דְּאִילּוּ חָזְיָא מְטַמְּאָה, הַשְׁתָּא נָמֵי מְטַמְּיָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rav Huna says,** in further clarification of Beit Shammai’s opinion: If a woman experiences bleeding during the eleven days of *ziva* and must observe one clean day, but did not wait until the conclusion of that second day before immersing, with regard to **her** items designated for **lying or sitting, on the second** day, **Beit Shammai render** them **impure** by rabbinic law. This is the *halakha* **even though she has immersed** in a ritual bath and **even though she did not see** any blood after her immersion. **What is the reason? Since if she would see** blood **she** would **render** these surfaces **ritually impure** by Torah law, **now too she renders** them **ritually impure** by rabbinic law.


###### Niddah 72a:14
[Niddah 72a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:14)

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? תְּנֵינָא: טָבְלָה יוֹם שֶׁלְּאַחֲרָיו, וְשִׁמְּשָׁה אֶת בֵּיתָהּ, וְאַחַר כָּךְ רָאֲתָה — בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: מְטַמְּאָה מִשְׁכָּבוֹת וּמוֹשָׁבוֹת, וּפְטוּרָה מִן הַקׇּרְבָּן!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said: What is** Rav Huna **teaching us? We** already **learn** in the mishna: If the woman **immersed on the day following** the eleventh day **and she engaged in intercourse with** the man of **her house** on that twelfth day **and then saw** blood, **Beit Shammai say: They transmit impurity** to items designated for **lying or sitting** by rabbinic law. **And they are exempt from** bringing **the** sin **offering.** Her impurity applies by rabbinic law, lest this case be confused with one where she experiences bleeding during the eleven days when she would be impure by Torah law. By inference, if she experienced bleeding on one of her eleven days and immersed on the following day, she would likewise render items designated for lying or sitting ritually impure by rabbinic law.


###### Niddah 72a:15
[Niddah 72a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:15)

אָמַר רַב כָּהֲנָא: רָאֲתָה שָׁאנֵי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Kahana said:** Rav Huna is teaching that Beit Shammai render her ritually impure even if she does not experience bleeding. Based on the mishna alone, one might have thought that the case where **she saw** blood **is different,** and it is only in this situation that Beit Shammai render her impure by rabbinic law.


###### Niddah 72a:16
[Niddah 72a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:16)

אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: וְכִי רָאֲתָה, מַאי הָוֵי? רְאִיָּיה דְּנִדָּה הִיא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said,** in refutation of Rav Kahana’s claim: **And if she saw** blood on the twelfth day, **what of it?** A discharge of blood on the twelfth day **is a sighting of a menstruating woman,** which does not render her a *zava* by Torah law. Therefore, it is comparable to a case where she experienced bleeding on one day during her eleven days of *ziva* and immersed on the following day, and she does not experience bleeding on that following day at all.


###### Niddah 72a:17
[Niddah 72a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:17)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי לְרַב יוֹסֵף: רַב כָּהֲנָא הָכִי קָא קַשְׁיָא לֵיהּ — בִּשְׁלָמָא הֵיכָא דְּרָאֲתָה, גָּזְרִינַן רְאִיָּיה דְּנִדָּה אַטּוּ רְאִיָּיה דְּזָבָה, אֶלָּא הֵיכָא דְּלָא רָאֲתָה, מַאי נִגְזַר בָּהּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said to Rav Yosef: This is what** is **difficult for Rav Kahana: Granted,** in a case **where she saw** blood on the twelfth day, it stands to reason that **we decree** impurity with regard to **a sighting of a menstruating woman due to a sighting of a *zava*. But** in a case **where she did not see** any blood at all, for **what** reason should the Sages **decree** impurity **upon her?**


###### Niddah 72a:18
[Niddah 72a:18](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/72a:18)

וְעוֹד תְּנַן: הָרוֹאָה רְאִיָּיה אַחַת שֶׁל זוֹב — בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים: כְּשׁוֹמֶרֶת יוֹם כְּנֶגֶד יוֹם, וּבֵית הִלֵּל אוֹמְרִים: כְּבַעַל קֶרִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye continues: **And furthermore, we learned** in a mishna (*Zavim* 1:1): If a man **sees one sighting of *ziva*** (see 35b), **Beit Shammai say:** His status on the following day is **like** that of **a woman who observes** a clean **day for a day** she experiences a discharge. In other words, he must immerse and observe that day in purity, and if he touches tithes their status is suspended, since if he sees another discharge on that day, they are retroactively impure. **And Beit Hillel say:** His status is **like** that of a man **who experiences a seminal emission,** who is purified by his immersion, and therefore any tithes this man touches on the second day remain pure even if he later experiences a second discharge.