## Niddah Daf 9b

###### Niddah 9b:1
[Niddah 9b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Niddah/r/9b:1)

כֹּל שֶׁקּוֹרִין לָהּ ״אִמָּא אִמָּא״ וְאֵינָהּ בּוֹשָׁה. רַבִּי זֵירָא וְרַבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר רַב יִצְחָק — חַד אָמַר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵינָהּ מַקְפֶּדֶת, וְחַד אָמַר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵינָהּ בּוֹשָׁה. מַאי בֵינַיְיהוּ? אִיכָּא בֵינַיְיהוּ: בּוֹשָׁה וְאֵינָהּ מַקְפֶּדֶת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
It is **any** woman who is old enough **that** people **call her: Mother [*Imma*], Mother, and she is not embarrassed. Rabbi Zeira and Rabbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzḥak** disagree with regard to this matter. **One says** that the definition is **any** woman **who does not take offense** about being called: Mother, Mother. **And** the other **one says** that it is **any** woman **who is not embarrassed** by this. The Gemara asks: **What is the difference between** their definitions? The Gemara answers: The practical difference **between** them is in a case where a woman is **embarrassed but she does not take offense** when called: Mother.


###### Niddah 9b:2
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וְכַמָּה עוֹנָה? אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי יְהוּדָה נְשִׂיאָה: עוֹנָה בֵּינוֹנִית שְׁלֹשִׁים יוֹם, וְרָבָא אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: עֶשְׂרִים יוֹם. וְלָא פְּלִיגִי, מָר קָחָשֵׁיב יְמֵי טוּמְאָה וִימֵי טׇהֳרָה, וּמָר לָא חָשֵׁיב יְמֵי טוּמְאָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And how long** is a typical menstrual **cycle? Reish Lakish says in the name of Rabbi Yehuda Nesia:** The **average** menstrual **cycle** is **thirty days** long. **And Rava says** that **Rav Ḥisda** says: It is **twenty days.** The Gemara notes: **And** they **do not disagree.** One **Sage,** Rav Yehuda Nesia, **counts** all the days of her cycle, including the **days of impurity and days of purity. And** the other **Sage,** Rav Ḥisda, **does not count** the **days of impurity,** i.e., the seven days of impurity of a menstruating woman and the three days of the sighting of *ziva*.


###### Niddah 9b:3
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: זְקֵנָה שֶׁעָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת, וְרָאֲתָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ. וְעוֹד עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת, וְרָאֲתָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ. וְעוֹד עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת, וְרָאֲתָה — הֲרֵי הִיא כְּכׇל הַנָּשִׁים, וּמְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת וּמִפְּקִידָה לִפְקִידָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: With regard to **an elderly woman** for **whom three** typical menstrual **cycles** of thirty days **passed and** then **she saw** a discharge of menstrual blood, **her time is sufficient. And** if **a further three** typical menstrual **cycles** of thirty days **passed for her and she** subsequently **saw** a discharge of menstrual blood, **her time is sufficient. And** if yet **a further three** typical menstrual **cycles** of thirty days **passed for her and** then **she saw** a discharge of menstrual blood, after this third time **she is** now **like all** normal **women,** and she **transmits impurity** retroactively **for** a twenty-four-hour **period or from examination to examination.**


###### Niddah 9b:4
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וְלָא (מִיבַּעְיָא) שֶׁכִּוְּונָה, אֶלָּא אֲפִילּוּ פִּיחֲתָה, וַאֲפִילּוּ הוֹתִירָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: **And it is not necessary** to teach this *halakha* in a case **where she** experienced the three sightings in **even** intervals of ninety days, as in such a case it is obvious that she assumes the status of a normal woman who transmits impurity retroactively. **Rather, even if she** had intervals where she **decreased,** i.e., experienced bleeding at intervals smaller than that, **or even if she increased** and experienced bleeding at greater intervals, she still assumes the status of a woman who transmits impurity retroactively.


###### Niddah 9b:5
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״אֲפִילּוּ פִּיחֲתָה״, וְלָא מִבָּעֲיָא כִּוְּונָה? אַדְּרַבָּה, כִּי כִּוְּונָה — קָבְעָה לָהּ וִסְתָּהּ, וְדַיָּה שְׁעָתָהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara infers: The wording of the *baraita*: **Even if she** had intervals where she **decreased,** indicates that **it is not necessary** to teach the *halakha* in the case of a woman who experienced bleeding at **even** intervals. This is puzzling, as **on the contrary, if she** experienced bleeding at **even** intervals she thereby **fixes her** menstrual **cycle** as being every thirty days, **and** according to Rabbi Dosa (4b) the *halakha* is that **her time is sufficient.**


###### Niddah 9b:6
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וְכִי תֵּימָא, רַבָּנַן הִיא, דִּפְלִיגִי עֲלֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי דּוֹסָא, דְּאָמְרִי: אִשָּׁה שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהּ וֶסֶת מְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת, אִיפְּכָא מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ, וְלֵימָא: וְלֹא שֶׁפִּיחֲתָה וְהוֹתִירָה, אֶלָּא אֲפִילּוּ כִּוְּונָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And if you would say** that this **is** in accordance with the opinion of **the Rabbis, who disagree with Rabbi Dosa, as they say** that **a woman who has** a fixed menstrual **cycle transmits impurity** retroactively **for** a twenty-four-hour **period,** then the *baraita* **should have** been written in the **opposite** fashion: **Let** it **say: And** the *halakha* that an elderly woman who sees menstrual blood at intervals returns to the status of normal women and transmits impurity retroactively applies **not** only to a case where she had intervals where **she decreased or increased,** i.e., she experienced bleeding less or more than ninety days apart, **but** this *halakha* applies **even** if she experienced bleeding at **even** intervals.


###### Niddah 9b:7
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תְּנִי: לֹא שֶׁפִּיחֲתָה וְהוֹתִירָה, אֶלָּא אֲפִילּוּ כִּוְּונָה. וְאִיבָּעֵית אֵימָא, הָכִי קָאָמַר: וְלֹא שֶׁכִּוְּונָה, אֶלָּא שֶׁפִּיחֲתָה וְהוֹתִירָה, אֲבָל כִּוְּונָה — קָבְעָה לָהּ וֶסֶת, וְדַיָּה שְׁעָתָהּ. וּמַנִּי? רַבִּי דּוֹסָא הִיא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **Teach** in the *baraita* in accordance with this altered version: **And** the *halakha* applies **not** only to a case where she had intervals where **she decreased or increased, but** this is the *halakha* **even** if she experienced bleeding at **even** intervals. **And if you wish say** instead that **this** is what the *baraita* **is saying:** The *halakha* that an elderly woman is retroactively impure does **not** apply to a case when she saw menstrual blood at **even** intervals. **Rather,** it applies only if **she decreased or increased,** i.e., she experienced bleeding at intervals less or more than ninety days apart. **But** if she saw blood at **even** intervals, she thereby **fixes** a set menstrual **cycle** of ninety days and her time is sufficient. The Gemara adds: **And** if so, in accordance with **whose** opinion is this *baraita*? **It is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Dosa.**


###### Niddah 9b:8
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רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אוֹמֵר: כָּל אִשָּׁה שֶׁעָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ וְכוּ׳. תַּנְיָא: אָמַר לָהֶם רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר לַחֲכָמִים: מַעֲשֶׂה בְּרִיבָה אַחַת בְּהַיְתָלוֹ, שֶׁהִפְסִיקָה שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת, וּבָא מַעֲשֶׂה לִפְנֵי חֲכָמִים וְאָמְרוּ: דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna teaches that **Rabbi Eliezer says:** With regard to **any woman** for **whom** three typical menstrual cycles **passed** during which she saw no menstrual blood, if she experiences bleeding, her time is sufficient. Rabbi Yosei says: In the case of a pregnant woman and a nursing woman for whom three menstrual cycles passed during which they saw no menstrual blood, if she then saw blood her time is sufficient. Rabbi Eliezer cites a proof for his opinion. It **is taught** in a *baraita*: There was **an incident involving a certain girl in** the village of **Hitlo who stopped** menstruating **for three** typical menstrual **cycles,** after which she experienced menstruation. **And the matter came before the Sages, and they said** that **her time is sufficient** and she does not transmit impurity retroactively.


###### Niddah 9b:9
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אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אֵין שְׁעַת הַדְּחָק רְאָיָה. מַאי שְׁעַת הַדְּחָק? אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: שְׁנֵי בַצּוֹרֶת הֲווֹ, אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: טְהָרוֹת אַפֵּישׁ (לַעֲבִידָא) [וַעֲבַדָא], וְחַשּׁוּ רַבָּנַן לְהֶפְסֵד דִּטְהָרוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The other Sages **said to** Rabbi Eliezer: Decisions rendered **in exigent circumstances are no proof.** The Gemara asks: **What** were the **exigent circumstances? Some say** that **it was** during the **years of famine,** and **some say** that the girl had **handled many ritually pure** items **and the Sages were concerned for the loss** of those **pure** items if they were ruled retroactively impure.


###### Niddah 9b:10
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: מַעֲשֶׂה, וְעָשָׂה רַבִּי כְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר. לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּזְכַּר, אָמַר: כְּדַי הוּא רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר לִסְמוֹךְ עָלָיו בִּשְׁעַת הַדְּחָק. מַאי ״לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּזְכַּר״? אִילֵּימָא לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּזְכַּר דְּאֵין הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר אֶלָּא כְּרַבָּנַן, בִּשְׁעַת הַדְּחָק הֵיכִי עָבֵיד כְּוָותֵיהּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: There was **an incident** in which **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi **acted** by ruling that the *halakha* **is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Eliezer. After he remembered** that Rabbi Eliezer’s colleagues disagree with him on this matter and that he had apparently ruled incorrectly, **he** nevertheless **said: Rabbi Eliezer is worthy to rely upon in exigent circumstances.** The Gemara asks: **What** is the meaning of: **After he remembered? If we say** that this means **after he remembered** that the ***halakha*** is **not in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Eliezer, but in accordance with** the opinion of **the Rabbis,** if so, **how could he act in accordance with** Rabbi Eliezer even **in exigent circumstances,** since the *halakha* has been decided against him?


###### Niddah 9b:11
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אֶלָּא, דְּלָא אִיתְּמַר הִילְכְתָא לָא כְּמָר וָלֹא כְּמָר, וּמַאי ״לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּזְכַּר״? לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּזְכַּר דְּלָאו יָחִיד פְּלִיג עֲלֵיהּ, אֶלָּא רַבִּים פְּלִיגִי עֲלֵיהּ, אֲמַר: כְּדַי הוּא רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר לִסְמוֹךְ עָלָיו בִּשְׁעַת הַדְּחָק.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather,** one must say **that** the ***halakha*** had **not been stated** on this matter, **neither in accordance with** the opinion of this **Sage,** Rabbi Eliezer, **nor in accordance with** the opinion of **that Sage,** the Rabbis. **And what** is the meaning of: **After he remembered? After** Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi **remembered that it was not a lone** authority who **disagrees with** Rabbi Eliezer, **but** it was several Sages who **disagreed with him,** and there is a principle that the *halakha* is in accordance with the opinion of the many over the opinion of an individual, he nevertheless **said: Rabbi Eliezer is worthy to rely upon in exigent circumstances.**


###### Niddah 9b:12
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: תִּינוֹקֶת שֶׁלֹּא הִגִּיעַ זְמַנָּהּ לִרְאוֹת וְרָאֲתָה, פַּעַם רִאשׁוֹנָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ, שְׁנִיָּה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ, שְׁלִישִׁית — הֲרֵי הִיא כְּכׇל הַנָּשִׁים, וּמְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת וּמִפְּקִידָה לִפְקִידָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara continues the discussion of a woman who fails to experience menstruation for three typical menstrual cycles. **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: With regard to **a young girl,** less than twelve years old, **whose time to see** the flow of menstrual blood **has not arrived and she saw** menstrual blood, after the **first time her time is sufficient.** After the **second time,** again **her time is sufficient.** After the **third time, she is like all** normal adult **women, and** therefore **she transmits impurity** retroactively **for** a twenty-four**-**hour **period or from examination to examination.**


###### Niddah 9b:13
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עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת וְרָאֲתָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ, וְעוֹד עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת וְרָאֲתָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ, וְעוֹד עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת וְרָאֲתָה — הֲרֵי הִיא כְּכׇל הַנָּשִׁים, וּמְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת וּמִפְּקִידָה לִפְקִידָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* continues: If she then **passed three** expected menstrual **cycles** without experiencing bleeding, **and** then **she saw** menstrual blood, she returns to the status of a young girl and **her time is sufficient. And** if it **further** happens that she again **passed three** expected menstrual **cycles** without experiencing bleeding, **and** then **she saw** menstrual **blood, her time is sufficient. And** if she **passed three further cycles** without experiencing bleeding, and **she** subsequently **saw** menstrual **blood, she is like all** normal adult **women.** She is considered a woman who experiences regular menstruation at long intervals with breaks of ninety days. **And** therefore **she transmits impurity** retroactively **for** a twenty-four-hour **period or from examination to examination.**


###### Niddah 9b:14
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וּכְשֶׁהִגִּיעַ זְמַנָּהּ לִרְאוֹת, פַּעַם רִאשׁוֹנָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ, שְׁנִיָּה — מְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת וּמִפְּקִידָה לִפְקִידָה, עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת וְרָאֲתָה — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The *baraita* concludes: **And** with regard to a girl **whose time to see** the flow of menstrual blood **has arrived,** i.e., she has reached the age of twelve, when she sees menstrual blood for the **first time, her time is sufficient.** After the **second** time, **she transmits impurity** retroactively **for** a twenty-four-hour **period or from examination to examination.** If **three** menstrual **cycles** then **passed** without her experiencing bleeding, **and** afterward **she saw** menstrual **blood, her time is sufficient.** This is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Eliezer, who holds that any woman who passed three expected menstrual cycles without experiencing bleeding is presumed not to be menstruating.


###### Niddah 9b:15
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אָמַר מָר: עָבְרוּ עָלֶיהָ שָׁלֹשׁ עוֹנוֹת — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Master said** in the *baraita*: If the young girl who had started menstruating **passed three** expected menstrual **cycles** without experiencing bleeding and then saw menstrual blood, she returns to the status of a young girl and **her time is sufficient.**