## Ohr Yisrael Chapter 19

###### Ohr Yisrael 19:1
[Ohr Yisrael 19:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ohr%20Yisrael/r/19:1)

**יִקְרָתוֹ** מִן י"א דָּנָא נָכוֹן הִגִּיעַנִי הַיּוֹם. נִמְצֵאתִי נָכוֹן לִכְתֹּב לִכְבוֹד תּוֹרָתוֹ לִבְלִי לְאַחֵר מִפְּנֵי הַכָּבוֹד. כִּי לֹא הֵשַׁבְתִּי עַל מִכְתָּבָיו הַקּוֹדְמִים. רָאִיתִי אֹמֶץ תְּשׁוּקָתוֹ לְהִתְרָאוֹת אִתִּי וְהַדִּין עִמּוֹ כְּמַאֲמַר הַכָּתוּב בִּישִׁישִׁים חָכְמָה:—

**Ohr Yisrael, trans. Rabbi Irving Greenberg with Rabbi Justin Pines, 2020:**
[Your]¹ precious letter of the eleventh of this month reached me today. I find it proper to write to [your] honor without delay, out of respect, for I did not reply to [your] earlier letters. I see [your] intense longing to meet with me. The law accords with [you],² as it says in Scripture: “With the venerable ones is understanding [found].”³

footnotes:
¹ This letter, like the previous, is addressed to the recipient in the third person.
² That is, he is right to want to talk with an elder sage.
³ Job 12:12.


###### Ohr Yisrael 19:2
[Ohr Yisrael 19:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ohr%20Yisrael/r/19:2)

**וַאֲפָרֵשׁ** שִׂיחָתִי. הַחָכְמוֹת וְהַמַּדָּעִים הֵמָּה טֶעהָארִי (עִיּוּן). וּפְרַאקְטִיק (חִנּוּךְ הַמַּעֲשֶׂה). הַחָכְמוֹת אֲשֶׁר יְסוֹדָתָם הַמּוֹפֵת וְהָרְאָיוֹת הַיְסוֹד בָּהֶם הָעִיּוּן. אוּלָם אֶת אֲשֶׁר נוֹפְלִים רַק תַּחַת הַהַשְׁעָרָה הַנְּכוֹנָה. הַיְסוֹד בָּהֶם חִנּוּךְ הַמַּעֲשֶׂה. הַטֶּעהָארִי (עִיּוּן) אֵינָהּ נוֹפֶלֶת תַּחַת הַשְּׁנַיִם כִּי יֵשׁ קַנְקָן חָדָשׁ כוּ'. וְשֵׂכֶל צָעִיר הַיָּמִים תְּבָרֵר יוֹתֵר. מִזָּקֵן חָלוּשׁ הַדַּעַת וְהַתְּבוּנָה. אָכֵן הַפְּרַאקְטִיק (חִנּוּךְ הַמַּעֲשֶׂה). בְּיָמִים יָבוֹאוּ וּבְזִקְנָה תִּתְכּוֹנֵן. תְּבוּנָה (שֵׁם חָכְמָה) נוֹפֵל עַל הַהַשְׁעָרָה הַנְּכוֹנָה לָזֶה אָמַר הַכָּתוּב בִּישִׁישִׁים כוּ':—

**Ohr Yisrael, trans. Rabbi Irving Greenberg with Rabbi Justin Pines, 2020:**
I will explain my words. [Branches of] wisdom and the sciences are “theory” (abstract learning) and “practice” (learning through action, i.e., experience).⁴ [Branches of] wisdom that are based on demonstration and proof are founded upon theory. However, those [branches of wisdom and science] that emerge from good assessments are based on practical experience. Theory does not emerge with time alone, for “there is a new pitcher [full of old, i.e., rare, wine]….”⁵ The reason of a young person may clarify more than an old man who is weak in mind and understanding. However, practical experience comes with time, and is established in old age. “Understanding” (the name of a branch of wisdom) refers to good assessment.⁶ Therefore Scripture says: “With venerable ones is understanding [found].”

footnotes:
⁴ It would appear from this letter and the next that R. Salanter had been reading some general works on the nature of scientific evidence. He seeks to apply these approaches to the understanding of the ways of Torah and Mussar.
⁵ See Avot 4:20.
⁶ …which reaches its conclusions based on the evidence that accumulates with experience.


###### Ohr Yisrael 19:3
[Ohr Yisrael 19:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ohr%20Yisrael/r/19:3)

**וְהִנֵּה** לִמּוּד הַתּוֹרָה הַיְסוֹד הוּא (הַטֶּעהָארִי). הַחֲרִיפוּת וְהַבְּקִיאוּת וְהָעִיּוּן הַיָּשָׁר. לְבָרֵר דָּבָר עַל אָפְנָיו בְּדַרְכֵי הַהוֹכָחוֹת וְהָרְאָיוֹת לְרַגְלֵי דַּרְכֵי הַתּוֹרָה וְתַהֲלוּכוֹתֶיהָ. כְּפִי אֲשֶׁר הוֹרוּנוּ גְּדוֹלֵי הָרִאשׁוֹנִים וְהָאַחֲרוֹנִים זַ"ל. אָכֵן הַמּוּסָרִי וְדַרְכֵי הַמִּדּוֹת. הַיְסוֹד בָּהֶם הַפְּרַאקְטִיק — וּבָזֹאת כְּבוֹד תּוֹרָתוֹ שׁוֹאֵל מִמֶּנִּי כַּהֹגֶן וְאָנֹכִי נִצָּב מִנֶּגֶד — מַה זֶּה וְלָמָּה?

**Ohr Yisrael, trans. Rabbi Irving Greenberg with Rabbi Justin Pines, 2020:**
When it comes to Torah study, the foundation is theory: keenness, encyclopedic knowledge, and straightforward analysis to clarify matters in a fitting manner,⁷ with evidence and proof in line with the ways and procedures of the Torah, as we were taught by the great *Rishonim*and *Aḥaronim*, of blessed memory. However, the foundation of Mussar and the nature of character traits is practical. [Your] honor rightfully questions me [on this difference], yet I stand fast on this counter position – what is this, and why?

footnotes:
⁷ See Proverbs 25:11.


###### Ohr Yisrael 19:4
[Ohr Yisrael 19:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ohr%20Yisrael/r/19:4)

**אָכֵן** הוּא הַדָּבָר אֲשֶׁר דִּבַּרְתִּי. בַּמּוּסָרִי וְדַרְכֵי הַמִּדּוֹת הַיְסוֹד בָּהֶם הַפְּרַאקְטִיק. (נִסָּיוֹן אִישׁ פְּרָטִי אֲשֶׁר הֻסְכַּן בִּימֵי חֶלְדּוֹ. אֵין דֶּרֶךְ כְּבוּשָׁה לְמוּסָרִים לִפְנֵי אָדָם גָּדוֹל כמי"ב) וְכִמְעַט קָרוֹב לְהֶפְסֵד חָלִילָה. כִּי כָּל אָדָם וּבִפְרָט אָדָם גָּדוֹל הוּא עוֹלָם בִּפְנֵי עַצְמוֹ לְפִי כֹּחוֹתָיו כֹּחוֹת נֶפֶשׁ שִׂכְלוֹ כוּ'. תְּכוּנַת מִדּוֹתָיו וְהִתְפַּעֲלוּתוֹ כוּ' מַצַּב עִנְיָנוֹ כוּ':

**Ohr Yisrael, trans. Rabbi Irving Greenberg with Rabbi Justin Pines, 2020:**
Indeed, it is as I have told [you].⁸ In Mussar and the ways of character traits, the foundation is practice (the experience of an individual who lives out his vulnerable mortal days on earth is not a well-troden path for Mussar for a great man, may there be many like him in Israel). It is almost a lost cause – for every person, and especially a great man, is a world unto himself, according to his talents, the powers of his soul and intelligence, etc., the qualities of his character, his capacity for sentiment, etc., the state of his engagement, etc.

footnotes:
⁸ Compare Genesis 42:14.


###### Ohr Yisrael 19:5
[Ohr Yisrael 19:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Ohr%20Yisrael/r/19:5)

**וְהִנֵּה** בִּדְבַר רְפוּאַת הַגּוּף אֲשֶׁר הַפְּרַאקְטִיק גָּדְלָה לִמְאֹד. הַנּוֹלְדָה מִפְּרַאקְטִישׁ חָכְמַת הַטֶּעהָארִי הַנִּפְלָאָה חָכְמַת הָרְפוּאָה הָרְחָבָה. אָכֵן בִּרְפוּאַת הַנֶּפֶשׁ אֶצְלֵנוּ. אֲשֶׁר אֵין בָּהֶם פְּרַאקִישׁ מֵאִישׁ לְרֵעֵהוּ לֵידַע וּלְהוֹדִיעַ. הַחָכְמָה מֵאַיִן תִּמָּצֵא לְהָשִׁיב לַשּׁוֹאֵל עַל אָפְנָיו. יְהִי נָא כְּבוֹד תּוֹרָתוֹ שָׁקוּט בִּמְעוֹנוֹ בִּמְנוּחַת נַפְשׁוֹ. אָנֹכִי בְּדַעְתִּי לִהְיוֹת אִם יִרְצֶה ה' כוּ'. אָז נִתְרָאֶה אִם יִרְצֶה ה' בְּלֹא נֶדֶר לָשׂוּם רַעְיוֹנֵינוּ בִּדְבַר תַּהֲלוּכוֹת כְּבוֹד תּוֹרָתוֹ וּמַאֲוָיו. עַל מַה צְּפוּנָה עִיּוּנָיו בִּדְבַר תַּהֲלוּכוֹת הַמּוּסָרִי וְהַמִּדּוֹת. לְפִי דְּרָכָיו וְדַרְכֵי הַזְּמַן לְטוֹב לְפִי הַשְׁעָרָה הַנְּכוֹחָה. וְה' יִתְבָּרַךְ שְׁמוֹ יִהְיֶה בְּעֶזְרָתֵנוּ לְטוֹב וּמֵטִיב. יְדִידוֹ דּוֹרֵשׁ שְׁלוֹמוֹ **יִשְׂרָאֵל**:

**Ohr Yisrael, trans. Rabbi Irving Greenberg with Rabbi Justin Pines, 2020:**
Regarding the cure of the body, practical experience has grown dramatically, and out of practice was born the wondrous theoretical wisdom, the broad wisdom of medicine. However, when it comes to our interest, the healing of the soul, there is no “practice” to know and communicate from one person to another. So how can we find the wisdom to answer to each questioner in accordance with his ways?
Let [your] honor be at ease in dwelling in the tranquility of his soul. I plan to be [in his vicinity] with the help of God…. Then we will meet, God willing, without taking an oath, to put our minds to his honor, [great in] Torah’s ways and hopes: on what hidden [forces] his analysis should focus on, on the mysteries of Mussar and character traits – according to his ways and the vicissitudes of time, in accordance with the present assessment. And God, blessed be His name, will help us to be good and do good.
His friend who seeks his well-being, Israel