## Shabbat Daf 145a

###### Shabbat 145a:1
[Shabbat 145a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:1)

כְּבֵיצָה מְכֻוֶּונֶת — טָהוֹר. הָא יוֹתֵר מִכְּבֵיצָה — טָמֵא, וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ ״מַשְׁקֶה הַבָּא לְאוֹכֶל — אוֹכֶל הוּא״, בְּמַאי אִיתַּכְשַׁר? הוּא מוֹתֵיב לַהּ וְהוּא מְפָרֵק לַהּ: בְּסוֹחֵט לְתוֹךְ הַקְּעָרָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
in the **exact** amount of **an egg-bulk,** the liquid **is ritually pure.** Even though the ritually impure individual touched the food, less than an egg-bulk of food cannot become ritually impure. Once the first drop of liquid is squeezed out, less than an egg-bulk of food remains, and it cannot render the liquid impure. By inference, if he squeezed **more than an egg-bulk,** the liquid **is ritually impure. And if you say** that **liquid that comes into food is** considered **food, in what** manner was this liquid **rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity? **He raised the objection and he resolved it:** It is referring to a case **where** one **squeezes into an** empty **bowl,** in which case the juice is considered a liquid.


###### Shabbat 145a:2
[Shabbat 145a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:2)

אָמַר רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה: כְּתַנָּאֵי. הַמַּחֲלִיק בַּעֲנָבִים — לֹא הוּכְשַׁר. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: הוּכְשַׁר. מַאי לָאו בְּהָא קָמִיפַּלְגִי: מָר סָבַר מַשְׁקֶה הַבָּא לְאוֹכֶל — אוֹכֶל הוּא, וּמָר סָבַר לָאו אוֹכֶל הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yirmeya said:** The question of whether liquid squeezed directly from one food into another is considered liquid or food is **parallel to** the following dispute between ***tanna’im*.** We learned in a mishna: In the case of **one who smooths** bread before baking it **by** squeezing **grapes** onto it, the bread **was not rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity. **Rabbi Yehuda says: It was rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity. **What, do they not disagree about this?** One **Sage held that liquid that comes into food is food,** and therefore it cannot render bread susceptible to ritual impurity, **and** one **Sage held** that **it is not food** but rather a liquid, and therefore it renders the bread susceptible to ritual impurity.


###### Shabbat 145a:3
[Shabbat 145a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:3)

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא מַשְׁקֶה הַבָּא לְאוֹכֶל לָאו אוֹכֶל הוּא, וְהָכָא בְּמַשְׁקֶה הַבָּא לְאִיבּוּד קָמִיפַּלְגִי: מָר סָבַר מַשְׁקֶה הוּא, וּמָר סָבַר לָאו מַשְׁקֶה הוּא. וּבִפְלוּגְתָּא דְהָנֵי תַּנָּאֵי, דְּתַנְיָא: הַמְפַצֵּעַ בְּזֵיתִים בְּיָדַיִם מְסוֹאָבוֹת — הוּכְשַׁר. לְסוֹפְתָן בְּמֶלַח — לֹא הוּכְשַׁר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Pappa said** that the disputes are not necessarily parallel; it can be explained that **everyone agrees that liquid that comes into food is not food, and here they disagree with regard to liquid that goes to waste,** as the liquid that dripped onto the bread eventually evaporates due to the heat of the oven. One **Sage,** Rabbi Yehuda, **held** that **it is** nonetheless **a liquid** and therefore can render the bread susceptible to ritual impurity, **and** one **Sage held that it is not a liquid. And** they disagree in **the dispute between these *tanna’im*, as it was taught** in a *baraita*: In the case of **one who cuts olives with soiled,** i.e., ritually impure, **hands,** the olives **are rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity through the liquid that comes from them, and his hands render the olives ritually impure. If he cut them in order **to dip them in salt,** the olives **are not rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity, because if that liquid emerged from the olives against the owner’s will, the liquid cannot render food susceptible to ritual impurity.


###### Shabbat 145a:4
[Shabbat 145a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:4)

לֵידַע אִם הִגִּיעוּ זֵיתָיו לִמְסוֹק אִם לָאו — לֹא הוּכְשַׁר. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: הוּכְשַׁר. מַאי לָאו בְּהָא קָמִיפַּלְגִי: דְּמָר סָבַר מַשְׁקֶה הָעוֹמֵד לְאִיבּוּד — מַשְׁקֶה הוּא, וּמָר סָבַר לָאו מַשְׁקֶה הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If he was cutting in order **to ascertain whether his olives have reached** the stage of ripeness at which they are fit **to be harvested or not, they are not rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity. **Rabbi Yehuda said: They are rendered susceptible** to ritual impurity. **What, do they not disagree with regard to this?** One **Sage,** Rabbi Yehuda, **held** that **liquid** that emerges when one tests the olives but **which stands to** go to **waste, is liquid** and renders food susceptible to ritual impurity; **and** one **Sage held that it is not liquid** and does not render food susceptible to ritual impurity.


###### Shabbat 145a:5
[Shabbat 145a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:5)

אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: הָנֵי תַּנָּאֵי בְּמַשְׁקֶה הָעוֹמֵד לְאִיבּוּד פְּלִיגִי, וְהָנָךְ תַּנָּאֵי בְּמַשְׁקֶה הָעוֹמֵד לְצַחְצְחוֹ קָמִיפַּלְגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said:** The last two disputes are not necessarily parallel. **These *tanna’im*,** who disagreed with regard to olives, **disagreed with regard to liquid that stands** to go **to waste, and those *tanna’im*,** who disagreed with regard to the liquid on the bread, **disagreed with regard to liquid that stands** to be used **to shine it.**


###### Shabbat 145a:6
[Shabbat 145a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:6)

אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא אָמַר רַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי אָמַר רַב: סוֹחֵט אָדָם אֶשְׁכּוֹל שֶׁל עֲנָבִים לְתוֹךְ הַקְּדֵרָה, אֲבָל לֹא לְתוֹךְ הַקְּעָרָה. וְדָג לְצִירוֹ אֲפִילּוּ לְתוֹךְ הַקְּעָרָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Zeira said** that **Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi said** that **Rav said: A person may squeeze a cluster of grapes into a pot** with food in it on Shabbat, because liquid that is squeezed directly into food is considered food rather than liquid; **however,** one may **not** do so **into a bowl** that is empty or that contains liquid. **And** squeezing a **fish for its brine** is permitted **even into a bowl.**


###### Shabbat 145a:7
[Shabbat 145a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:7)

יָתֵיב רַב דִּימִי וְקָאָמַר לַהּ לְהָא שְׁמַעְתָּא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי לְרַב דִּימִי: אַתּוּן מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב מַתְנִיתוּן וְלָא קַשְׁיָא לְכוּ, אֲנַן מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל מַתְנִינַן לַהּ, וְקַשְׁיָא לַן: מִי אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל דָּג לְצִירוֹ אֲפִילּוּ לְתוֹךְ הַקְּעָרָה? וְהָאִיתְּמַר: כְּבָשִׁים שֶׁסְּחָטָן, אָמַר רַב: לְגוּפָן — מוּתָּר, לְמֵימֵיהֶן — פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Dimi sat and stated this *halakha*. Abaye said to Rav Dimi: You teach** this *halakha* **in the name of Rav and it is not difficult for you; we teach it in the name of Shmuel and it is difficult for us** for the following reason: **Did Shmuel say** that it is permitted to squeeze **a fish for its brine even into a bowl? Wasn’t it stated** that there was a dispute with regard to **pickled vegetables that one squeezed? Rav said:** If he wants to squeeze them because he needs the vegetables **themselves** without the liquid, **it is permitted** to do so even *ab initio* on Shabbat. And if he squeezes them because he needs **their liquid, he is exempt** from bringing a sin-offering, **but it is prohibited** to do so *ab initio*.


###### Shabbat 145a:8
[Shabbat 145a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:8)

וּשְׁלָקוֹת בֵּין לְגוּפָן בֵּין לְמֵימֵיהֶן — מוּתָּר. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: אֶחָד כְּבָשִׁים וְאֶחָד שְׁלָקוֹת, לְגוּפָן — מוּתָּר, לְמֵימֵיהֶן — פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** with regard to **boiled vegetables, whether** he needs the vegetables **themselves** without their liquid **or whether** he wants to squeeze the vegetables **for their liquids, it is permitted** to squeeze them on Shabbat. **And Shmuel said:** With regard to **both pickled vegetables and boiled vegetables,** if he squeezes them **for** the vegetables **themselves, it is permitted, and** if he squeezes them **for their liquids, he is exempt** from bringing a sin-offering, **but it is prohibited** to do so *ab initio*. Apparently, squeezing fish for its brine falls into the category of squeezing boiled items for their liquid, which according to Shmuel is prohibited. As such, Shmuel’s two statements appear contradictory.


###### Shabbat 145a:9
[Shabbat 145a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:9)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הָאֱלֹהִים! ״עֵינַי רָאוּ וְלֹא זָר (כָּלוּ כִלְיוֹתַי בְּחֵקִי וְגוֹ׳)״ — מִפּוּמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי יִרְמְיָה שְׁמִיעַ לִי, וְרַבִּי יִרְמְיָה מֵרַבִּי זֵירָא, וְרַבִּי זֵירָא מֵרַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי, וְרַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי מֵרַב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**He said to him:** You can certainly rely on my version of this statement. To underscore his point, he uttered the oath-like expression: **By God!** and applied the verse: “Whom I shall see for myself; **my eyes have seen it, and not another’s”** (Job 19:27). **I heard** this tradition **from the mouth of Rabbi Yirmeya, and Rabbi Yirmeya** heard it **from Rabbi Zeira, and Rabbi Zeira** heard it **from Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi, and Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi** heard it **from Rav,** and each transmitter of this tradition is a reliable source.


###### Shabbat 145a:10
[Shabbat 145a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:10)

גּוּפָא. כְּבָשִׁים שֶׁסְּחָטָן, אָמַר רַב: לְגוּפָן — מוּתָּר, לְמֵימֵיהֶן — פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר. וּשְׁלָקוֹת, בֵּין לְגוּפָן בֵּין לְמֵימֵיהֶן — מוּתָּר. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: אֶחָד זֶה וְאֶחָד זֶה, לְגוּפָן — מוּתָּר, לְמֵימֵיהֶן — פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: אֶחָד כְּבָשִׁים וְאֶחָד שְׁלָקוֹת, לְגוּפָן — מוּתָּר, לְמֵימֵיהֶן — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Apropos the topic of squeezing pickled vegetables, the Gemara addresses **the matter itself.** We learned that with regard to **pickled vegetables that one squeezed, Rav said** that if he squeezes them **for themselves, it is permitted,** and if he squeezes them **for their liquids he is exempt** from bringing a sin-offering, **but it is prohibited** to do so *ab initio*; **and** with regard to **boiled vegetables,** if he squeezes them **both for themselves and for their liquids it is permitted. And Shmuel said:** With regard to **both this,** pickled vegetables, **and that,** boiled vegetables, squeezing **for** the vegetables **themselves** without liquid **is permitted;** squeezing them **for their liquids, one is exempt, but it is prohibited** to do so *ab initio*. **Rabbi Yoḥanan said:** With regard to **both pickled vegetables and boiled vegetables,** if one squeezes them for the vegetables **themselves it is permitted;** if one squeezes them **for their liquids, he is liable to** bring **a sin-offering** for having performed a labor prohibited by Torah law.


###### Shabbat 145a:11
[Shabbat 145a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:11)

מֵיתִיבִי: סוֹחֲטִין כְּבָשִׁים בְּשַׁבָּת לְצוֹרֶךְ הַשַּׁבָּת, אֲבָל לֹא לְמוֹצָאֵי שַׁבָּת. וְזֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים לֹא יִסְחוֹט, וְאִם סָחַט — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת. קַשְׁיָא לְרַב, קַשְׁיָא לִשְׁמוּאֵל, קַשְׁיָא לְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן. רַב מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ, שְׁמוּאֵל מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ, רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara **raises an objection** based on that which was taught in a *baraita*: **One may squeeze pickled vegetables on Shabbat for the purpose of** using them on **Shabbat but not for the conclusion of Shabbat. And one may not squeeze olives and grapes** at all on Shabbat, **and if one squeezed** them unwittingly, he is **liable to** bring **a sin-offering.** Apparently, it is permitted to squeeze pickled vegetables *ab initio* on Shabbat for any purpose, even for their juice, and if so, it is **difficult** according **to** the opinion of **Rav,** it is **difficult** according **to** the opinion of **Shmuel,** and it is **difficult** according **to** the opinion of **Rabbi Yoḥanan,** which all assert that squeezing pickled vegetables for their juice is prohibited on some level. The Gemara responds that **Rav interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning, Shmuel interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning,** and **Rabbi Yoḥanan interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning.** The Gemara proceeds to elucidate how the *baraita* is explained according to each opinion.


###### Shabbat 145a:12
[Shabbat 145a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:12)

רַב מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ: סוֹחֲטִין כְּבָשִׁים בְּשַׁבָּת לְצוֹרֶךְ הַשַּׁבָּת, אֲבָל לֹא לְמוֹצָאֵי שַׁבָּת. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים — לְגוּפָן, אֲבָל לְמֵימֵיהֶן פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר. וּשְׁלָקוֹת בֵּין לְגוּפָן בֵּין לְמֵימֵיהֶן — מוּתָּר. וְזֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים — לֹא יִסְחוֹט, וְאִם סְחָטָן — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning** by emending the *baraita* and adding to it: **One may squeeze pickled vegetables on Shabbat for the purpose of Shabbat, but not for the conclusion of Shabbat. In what** case **is this statement said?** When one squeezes the vegetables **for themselves; however,** if one squeezes them **for their liquid,** he is **exempt** from bringing a sin-offering, **but it is prohibited** to do so. **And** with regard to **boiled vegetables, whether** one squeezes them **for themselves or** whether he does so **for their liquid, it is permitted. And** with regard to **olives and grapes, one may not squeeze** them at all, **and if one squeezed them** unwittingly **he is liable to** bring **a sin-offering.**


###### Shabbat 145a:13
[Shabbat 145a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:13)

שְׁמוּאֵל מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ: סוֹחֲטִין כְּבָשִׁים בְּשַׁבָּת לְצוֹרֶךְ הַשַּׁבָּת, הוּא הַדִּין לִשְׁלָקוֹת. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים — לְגוּפָן, אֲבָל לְמֵימֵיהֶן — פָּטוּר, אֲבָל אָסוּר. וְזֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים לֹא יִסְחוֹט, וְאִם סָחַט — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Shmuel interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning** by emending the *baraita* and adding to it: **One may squeeze pickled vegetables on Shabbat for the purpose of Shabbat,** and **the same is true for boiled vegetables. In what** case **is this statement said?** When one squeezes them **for themselves; however,** if he squeezes them **for their liquids,** he is **not liable** to bring a sin-offering, **but it is prohibited** to do so. **And** with regard to **olives and grapes, one may not squeeze** them at all, **and if one squeezed** them unwittingly, he is **liable to** bring **a sin-offering.**


###### Shabbat 145a:14
[Shabbat 145a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:14)

רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן מְתָרֵץ לְטַעְמֵיהּ: סוֹחֲטִין כְּבָשִׁים לְצוֹרֶךְ הַשַּׁבָּת אֲבָל לֹא לְמוֹצָאֵי שַׁבָּת, אֶחָד כְּבָשִׁים וְאֶחָד שְׁלָקוֹת. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים — לְגוּפָן, אֲבָל לְמֵימֵיהֶן — לֹא יִסְחוֹט, וְאִם סָחַט — נַעֲשָׂה כְּמִי שֶׁסָּחַט זֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים, וְחַיָּיב חַטָּאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And **Rabbi Yoḥanan** also **interprets** the *baraita* **according to his** line of **reasoning** by emending the *baraita* and adding to it: **One may squeeze pickled vegetables for the purpose of Shabbat but not for the conclusion of Shabbat,** and that ruling applies **both to pickled vegetables and to boiled vegetables. In what** case **is this statement said?** When one squeezes them **for themselves, but** if he does so **for their liquids, one may not squeeze** them, **and if one squeezed** them unwittingly, **he becomes like one who squeezed olives or grapes, and he is liable to** bring **a sin-offering.**


###### Shabbat 145a:15
[Shabbat 145a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/145a:15)

אָמַר רַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי אָמַר רַב: דְּבַר תּוֹרָה — אֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא עַל דְּרִיסַת זֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים בִּלְבַד. וְכֵן תָּנֵי דְּבֵי מְנַשֶּׁה: דְּבַר תּוֹרָה אֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא עַל דְּרִיסַת זֵיתִים וַעֲנָבִים בִּלְבַד. וְאֵין עֵד מִפִּי עֵד כָּשֵׁר

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi said** that **Rav said: By Torah law, one is only liable for stomping** on **olives and grapes,** and all other prohibitions related to squeezing or juicing are rabbinic decrees and protective measures. **And similarly, it was taught** in **the school of Menashe: By Torah law, one is only liable for stomping on olives and grapes.** And it was taught in the school of Menashe: **And** testimony of one **witness** based solely on what he learned **from the mouth of** another **witness,** i.e., hearsay testimony, **is valid**