## Shabbat Daf 43a

###### Shabbat 43a:1
[Shabbat 43a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:1)

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: כּוֹפִין קְעָרָה עַל הַנֵּר שֶׁלֹּא יֵאָחֵז בַּקּוֹרָה? — בְּבָתֵּי גְּחִינִי דִּשְׁכִיחַ בְּהוּ דְּלֵיקָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye **raised** another **objection to** Rabba’s opinion from a *baraita*: **One may overturn a bowl on the** oil **lamp** so that the flame **will not set** fire **to the beam.** Apparently, the Sages permitted moving a vessel, even though this is not a common case of preservation. Rabba answered him: This is a case **of low**-ceilinged **houses in which fires are common.**


###### Shabbat 43a:2
[Shabbat 43a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:2)

וְכֵן קוֹרָה שֶׁנִּשְׁבְּרָה, סוֹמְכִין אוֹתָהּ בַּסַּפְסָל וּבַאֲרוּכּוֹת הַמִּטָּה! — בִּכְשׁוּרֵי חַדְתֵי דַּעֲבִידִי דְּפָקְעִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** it is **likewise** difficult from a mishna: **The beam** of a roof **that broke, one may support it with a bench and with the lengths of a bed** frame so that it will not fall. Even though this is an uncommon case of preservation, it is permitted. Rabba answered: This is a case **of new beams, which commonly break.** This too is a common case of preservation.


###### Shabbat 43a:3
[Shabbat 43a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:3)

נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת הַדֶּלֶף בְּשַׁבָּת! — בְּבָתֵּי חַדְתִּי דִּשְׁכִיחִי דְּדָלְפִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And Abaye raised another objection from a mishna: **One may place a vessel beneath a leak** in the ceiling **on Shabbat.** Apparently, even an uncommon case of preservation is permitted. Rabba answered: This is a case of **new houses, which frequently leak.**


###### Shabbat 43a:4
[Shabbat 43a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:4)

רַב יוֹסֵף אָמַר, הַיְינוּ טַעְמָא דְּרַב חִסְדָּא: מִשּׁוּם דְּקָא מְבַטֵּל כְּלִי מֵהֵיכָנוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yosef said: This is the reasoning** of **Rav Ḥisda,** who allowed covering a hen’s egg, but not placing a vessel underneath the hen, in order to receive the egg when it is laid: **Because** by receiving the egg in the vessel, **he negates a vessel’s preparedness.** Initially, the vessel was available for any use. Since it now contains an egg that may neither be used nor moved, the vessel too may no longer be carried. It is tantamount to breaking the vessel.


###### Shabbat 43a:5
[Shabbat 43a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:5)

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: חָבִית שֶׁל טֶבֶל שֶׁנִּשְׁבְּרָה — מֵבִיא כְּלִי אַחֵר וּמַנִּיחַ תַּחְתֶּיהָ! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: טֶבֶל מוּכָן הוּא אֵצֶל שַׁבָּת, שֶׁאִם עָבַר וְתִקְּנוֹ — מְתוּקָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye raised an objection** to Rav Ḥisda’s opinion, just as he had to Rabba’s opinion, from the *Tosefta*: One whose **barrel of untithed produce,** which may not be eaten until it is tithed, **broke** on Shabbat, **may bring another vessel and place it beneath** the barrel so that the untithed produce is not lost. Even though eating untithed produce is prohibited on Shabbat, they permitted carrying a vessel to preserve it even in the uncommon case of a barrel that breaks. Apparently, one is permitted to negate the vessel’s preparedness. Rav Yosef **said to him:** This is not difficult. Fundamentally, **untithed produce is available for** use on **Shabbat. As, if one sins and prepares it** for use by tithing it on Shabbat, it is **prepared** and may be eaten and carried.


###### Shabbat 43a:6
[Shabbat 43a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:6)

נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת הַנֵּר לְקַבֵּל נִיצוֹצוֹת! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: נִיצוֹצוֹת אֵין בָּהֶן מַמָּשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye raised another objection from a mishna: **One may place a vessel underneath the** oil **lamp** in order **to receive** the burning **sparks** of oil that drip from the wick. Once the vessel is filled with the drops of oil, it will no longer be available. **Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said: Sparks have no substance.** They burn and dissolve as they fall into the bowl and do not accumulate. Therefore, the vessel may still be used.


###### Shabbat 43a:7
[Shabbat 43a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:7)

וְכֵן קוֹרָה שֶׁנִּשְׁבְּרָה, סוֹמְכִין אוֹתָהּ בַּסַּפְסָל אוֹ בַּאֲרוּכּוֹת הַמִּטָּה! — דְּרָפִי, דְּאִי בָּעֵי שָׁקֵיל לֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** he **also** raised another objection from a mishna: **A beam that broke, one may support it with a bench and with the lengths of a bed** frame so that it will not fall. By doing so, he negates the preparedness of the bench or bed frame. He answered: This is a case **in which** the bench **is loosely** supporting the beam and not supporting its entire weight. **If one wants** to do so, **he can take** the bench. Therefore, the preparedness of the bench is not negated.


###### Shabbat 43a:8
[Shabbat 43a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:8)

נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת הַדֶּלֶף בְּשַׁבָּת! — בְּדֶלֶף הָרָאוּי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And he also raised another objection from a mishna: **One may place a vessel beneath a leak** that is dripping from the ceiling **on Shabbat.** The dripping water has no use and is set-aside; therefore, the water negates the vessel’s preparedness. He answered him: This is a case **of a leak that is suitable** for drinking. Since it has a use, one is permitted to carry the water that is in the vessel. Consequently, he does not negate the vessel’s preparedness by placing it beneath the leak.


###### Shabbat 43a:9
[Shabbat 43a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:9)

כּוֹפִין אֶת הַסַּל לִפְנֵי הָאֶפְרוֹחִין שֶׁיַּעֲלוּ וְיֵרְדוּ! קָסָבַר מוּתָּר לְטַלְטְלוֹ. וְהָתַנְיָא, אָסוּר לְטַלְטְלוֹ? בְּעוֹדָן עָלָיו. וְהָתַנְיָא, אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֵין עוֹדָן עָלָיו — אָסוּר! אָמַר רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ: בְּעוֹדָן עָלָיו כׇּל בֵּין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת. מִיגּוֹ דְּאִיתְקְצַאי לְבֵין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת — אִיתְקְצַאי לְכוּלֵּי יוֹמָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And he also raised another objection from a *Tosefta*: **One may overturn a basket in front of chicks** so that **they can climb on and climb off** of it. By doing so, he negates the vessel’s preparedness due to the chicks, as moving them is prohibited on Shabbat. The Gemara answers: Rav Yosef **holds** that it **is permitted to move** the basket on Shabbat. The Gemara asks: **Wasn’t it taught** in a *baraita* that **it is prohibited to move** the basket? The Gemara replies: This prohibition was stated **when they are still on it;** however, once the chicks climbed off the basket, it may be carried immediately. The Gemara asks: **Wasn’t it taught** in a *baraita* that **even though they are no longer on it, it is prohibited** to move the basket? Consequently, the vessel’s preparedness is negated. **Rabbi Abbahu said:** That *baraita* is referring to the unique case **where** the chicks **remained on top of** the basket **for the entire twilight** period on Shabbat eve. This is in accordance with the principle: **Since it was set aside** from use during **twilight** of Shabbat eve, **it was set aside for the entire day** of Shabbat. The status of every vessel, i.e., whether or not it may be used on Shabbat, is determined at twilight.


###### Shabbat 43a:10
[Shabbat 43a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:10)

אָמַר רַבִּי יִצְחָק: כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאֵין נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת תַּרְנְגוֹלֶת לְקַבֵּל בֵּיצָתָהּ — כָּךְ אֵין כּוֹפִין עָלֶיהָ כְּלִי בִּשְׁבִיל שֶׁלֹּא תִּשָּׁבֵר. קָסָבַר: אֵין כְּלִי נִיטָּל אֶלָּא לְדָבָר הַנִּיטָּל בְּשַׁבָּת. אֵיתִיבֵיהּ כׇּל הָנֵי תְּיוּבָתָא, וְשַׁנִּי: בְּצָרִיךְ לִמְקוֹמוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the basic *halakha* of a hen that lays an egg on Shabbat, **Rabbi Yitzḥak said: Just as one may not place a vessel beneath a hen** on Shabbat in order **to receive its egg, so** too, **one may not overturn a vessel onto** the egg **so that it will not break.** The Gemara explains that **he holds: A vessel may only be carried** on Shabbat **for** the sake of **an object that may be carried on Shabbat.** Since the egg may not be carried on Shabbat, it is prohibited to carry a vessel for its sake. The Gemara **raises all of these objections** that were raised to Rav Hisda’s opinion, which permitted doing so. **And he answered:** All of those *halakhot* are referring to cases **where** one needs to move the vessel that he is using for the set-aside item, because he **requires its location.** This is in accordance with the principle that once it is permitted, for whatever reason, to move any vessel, one may place it anywhere he chooses.


###### Shabbat 43a:11
[Shabbat 43a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:11)

תָּא שְׁמַע: אַחַת בֵּיצָה שֶׁנּוֹלְדָה בְּשַׁבָּת, וְאַחַת בֵּיצָה שֶׁנּוֹלְדָה בְּיוֹם טוֹב אֵין מְטַלְטְלִין אוֹתָהּ לְכַסּוֹת בָּהּ אֶת הַכְּלִי וְלִסְמוֹךְ בָּהּ כַּרְעֵי הַמִּטָּה, אֲבָל כּוֹפֶה עָלֶיהָ כְּלִי בִּשְׁבִיל שֶׁלֹּא תִּשָּׁבֵר! — הָכָא נָמֵי בְּצָרִיךְ לִמְקוֹמוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
To clarify whether or not the opinion of Rabbi Yitzḥak is valid, **come** and **hear** what was taught in a *baraita*: With regard to **both an egg that was laid on Shabbat and an egg that was laid on a Festival, one may neither move** it **to cover a vessel with it, nor to support** the **legs of a bed with it. However, one may cover it with a vessel so that it does not break.** This is contrary to Rabbi Yitzḥak’s opinion. **Here too,** it is referring **to** a vessel that one seeks to move because he **requires its location.** Since he was permitted to move it from its place, he is also permitted to cover an egg with it.


###### Shabbat 43a:12
[Shabbat 43a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:12)

תָּא שְׁמַע: פּוֹרְסִין מַחְצָלוֹת עַל גַּבֵּי אֲבָנִים בְּשַׁבָּת! — בַּאֲבָנִים מְקוּרְזָלוֹת דְּחַזְיָין לְבֵית הַכִּסֵּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Come** and **hear** an additional proof from that which we learned: **One may spread mats on top of stones on Shabbat.** Apparently, it is permissible to move a vessel for the sake of something that may not be moved on Shabbat. The Gemara responds: This is a case **of rounded rocks that are suitable to** be used in **the bathroom.** Therefore, it is permitted to carry them on Shabbat.


###### Shabbat 43a:13
[Shabbat 43a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:13)

תָּא שְׁמַע: פּוֹרְסִין מַחְצָלוֹת עַל גַּבֵּי לְבֵנִים בְּשַׁבָּת! — דְּאִישְׁתַּיּוּר מִבִּנְיָנָא, דְּחַזְיָין לְמִיזְגָּא עֲלַיְיהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Come** and **hear** another proof from that which we learned: **One may spread mats on top of bricks on Shabbat.** Bricks may not be used on Shabbat. Nevertheless, one is permitted to carry mats for the sake of bricks that are prohibited for use on Shabbat. The Gemara replies: This is referring to a case of bricks that are not set aside for construction, but **are left over from a** completed **building and are suitable** for people **to lean on them.** Consequently, they are like other household vessels, and moving them and moving mats to protect them is permitted.


###### Shabbat 43a:14
[Shabbat 43a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/43a:14)

תָּא שְׁמַע: פּוֹרְסִין מַחְצֶלֶת עַל גַּבֵּי כַּוֶּורֶת דְּבוֹרִים בְּשַׁבָּת, בַּחַמָּה — מִפְּנֵי הַחַמָּה, וּבַגְּשָׁמִים — מִפְּנֵי הַגְּשָׁמִים. וּבִלְבַד שֶׁלֹּא יִתְכַּוֵּין לָצוּד! הָכָא בְמַאי עָסְקִינַן — דְּאִיכָּא דְּבַשׁ. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב עוּקְבָא מִמִּישָׁן לְרַב אָשֵׁי: תִּינַח בִּימוֹת הַחַמָּה

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Come** and **hear** another proof for this from that which we learned: **One may spread a mat over a beehive on Shabbat in the sun due to** the need to protect it **from the sun, and in the rain due to** the need to protect it **from the rain, as long as he does not intend to trap** the bees by covering them. In any event, apparently it is permitted to move a mat for the sake of the beehive even though the beehive itself may not be moved on Shabbat. The Gemara rejects this: **With what are we dealing here?** With a case **where there is honey** in the beehive. He is permitted to cover it for the sake of the honey. **Rav Ukva from Meishan said to Rav Ashi: Granted,** you could say this **in the summer,**