## Shabbat Daf 47b

###### Shabbat 47b:1
[Shabbat 47b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:1)

אֲבָל אָסוּר. וְלֹא יִתְקַע, וְאִם תָּקַע — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אִם הָיָה רָפוּי — מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**However,** doing so is **prohibited. And one may not fasten** the pieces together forcefully, **and if he fastens** them, **he is liable to** bring **a sin-offering** for performing a labor prohibited by Torah law. **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: If it was loose** and could be assembled with ease, **it is permitted.** Rabbi Abba and Rav Huna bar Ḥiyya relied on this opinion.


###### Shabbat 47b:2
[Shabbat 47b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:2)

בֵּי רַב חָמָא הֲוָה מִטָּה גְּלָלְנִיתָא. הֲוָה מְהַדְּרִי לַהּ בְּיוֹמָא טָבָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ הָהוּא מִדְּרַבָּנַן לְרָבָא: מַאי דַּעְתָּיךְ — בִּנְיָן מִן הַצַּד הוּא? נְהִי דְּאִיסּוּרָא דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא לֵיכָּא, אִיסּוּרָא דְּרַבָּנַן מִיהָא אִיכָּא! אָמַר לֵיהּ: אֲנָא כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל סְבִירָא לִי דְּאָמַר אִם הָיָה רָפוּי — מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates: **In the house of Rav Ḥama,** Rava’s grandfather, **there was a collapsible bed,** similar to a weaver’s loom, **and they would reassemble it on a Festival. One of the Sages said to Rava: What is your opinion?** Do you hold that this **is allowed** because **it is building in an atypical manner?** In other words, one is not performing the prohibited labor of building since it is was not performed in the standard manner? **Although there is no Torah prohibition, there is, in any case, a rabbinic prohibition.** Rava **said to him: I hold in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel** who said that **if it were loose, it is permitted** even *ab initio*.


###### Shabbat 47b:3
[Shabbat 47b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:3)

**מַתְנִי׳** נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת הַנֵּר לְקַבֵּל נִיצוֹצוֹת, וְלֹא יִתֵּן לְתוֹכוֹ מַיִם מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא מְכַבֶּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** **One may place a vessel beneath the** oil **lamp** in order **to receive** burning **sparks** of oil that fall from the lamp so that they will not cause a fire. **And he may not place water into** the vessel **because he** thereby **extinguishes** the sparks.


###### Shabbat 47b:4
[Shabbat 47b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:4)

**גְּמָ׳** וְהָא קָמְבַטֵּל כְּלִי מֵהֵיכָנוֹ! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: נִיצוֹצוֹת אֵין בָּהֶן מַמָּשׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara asks: How is it permitted to position this vessel to receive the sparks, **doesn’t he** thereby **negate** the **vessel’s preparedness?** It is no longer prepared for any use on Shabbat as the sparks accord it set-aside status. The opinion that negating the preparedness of a vessel is prohibited has already been stated. **Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said: Sparks have no substance.** They burn immediately and do not leave behind any trace of oil in the vessel. Therefore, the vessel remains suitable to be moved.


###### Shabbat 47b:5
[Shabbat 47b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:5)

וְלֹא יִתֵּן לְתוֹכוֹ מַיִם מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא מְכַבֶּה: לֵימָא תְּנַן סְתָמָא כְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי, דְּאָמַר גּוֹרֵם לְכִיבּוּי — אָסוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** we also learned in the mishna that **one may not place water into** the vessel situated beneath the candle **because he** thereby **extinguishes** the sparks. The Gemara remarks: **Is that to say** that **we learned** an **unattributed** mishna **in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Yosei,** who **said** that even an action that **causes extinguishing** indirectly **is prohibited?** The extinguishing in this case, where water was placed into a vessel, was not accomplished by means of a direct action. His action only caused it to extinguish indirectly.


###### Shabbat 47b:6
[Shabbat 47b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:6)

וְתִסְבְּרָא? אֵימוֹר דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹסֵי — בְּשַׁבָּת, בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת מִי אָמַר? וְכִי תֵּימָא הָכָא נָמֵי בְּשַׁבָּת, וְהָתַנְיָא: נוֹתְנִין כְּלִי תַּחַת הַנֵּר לְקַבֵּל נִיצוֹצוֹת בְּשַׁבָּת, וְאֵין צָרִיךְ לוֹמַר בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת. וְלֹא יִתֵּן לְתוֹכוֹ מַיִם מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהוּא מְכַבֶּה — מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת, וְאֵין צָרִיךְ לוֹמַר בְּשַׁבָּת. אֶלָּא אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: אֲפִילּוּ תֵּימָא רַבָּנַן, שָׁאנֵי הָכָא — מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמְּקָרֵב אֶת כִּיבּוּיוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this question in astonishment: **And** how can **you understand** it in that manner? **Say** that **Rabbi Yosei said** that indirectly causing extinguishing is prohibited **on Shabbat; on Shabbat eve did he say** this? **And if you say** that **here, too, it is** referring to a case where he placed water in the vessel **on Shabbat, wasn’t it taught** in a *baraita*: **One may place a vessel underneath an** oil **lamp to receive sparks** that fall from the lamp **on Shabbat, and, needless to say,** placing it there is permitted **on Shabbat eve? And one may not put water into** the vessel **because he will** thereby **extinguish** the spark, even if he placed it there **on Shabbat eve, and, needless to say,** doing so is prohibited **on Shabbat** itself. Apparently, the prohibition in the mishna is not at all connected to Rabbi Yosei’s approach. **Rather, Rav Ashi said: Even if you say** that this mishna is in accordance with the opinion of **the Rabbis, it is different here because,** in this case, he is not only causing the spark to extinguish. He is **hastening its extinguishing,** as the sparks are extinguished immediately when they fall into the water (Rabbeinu Ḥananel). In this matter even the Rabbis would prohibit doing so.


###### Shabbat 47b:7
[Shabbat 47b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:7)

**הדרן עלך כירה**


###### Shabbat 47b:8
[Shabbat 47b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:8)

מַתְנִי׳ **בַּמֶּה טוֹמְנִין** וּבַמָּה אֵין טוֹמְנִין? — אֵין טוֹמְנִין לֹא בַּגֶּפֶת וְלֹא בַּזֶּבֶל, לֹא בַּמֶּלַח וְלֹא בַּסִּיד וְלֹא בַּחוֹל — בֵּין לַחִין בֵּין יְבֵשִׁין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
When a pot is removed from the fire on Shabbat eve it may be insulated in materials that preserve its heat, but not in materials that increase its heat. Raising the temperature of a pot is tantamount to cooking. The *mishnayot* that follow list those materials in which such a pot may be insulated on Shabbat eve and those materials in which it may not be insulated.

**MISHNA:** **In what may one insulate** a pot of cooked food on Shabbat eve, **and in what may one not insulate** it? **One may neither insulate** it **in the solid residue** of produce that has been pressed free of its oil, **nor in manure, nor in salt, nor in lime, nor in sand, whether** those materials are **moist** or **whether** they are **dry.** All of these materials spontaneously generate heat when piled for an extended period. Therefore, they add heat to a pot insulated in them.


###### Shabbat 47b:9
[Shabbat 47b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:9)

וְלֹא בַּתֶּבֶן וְלֹא בַּזַּגִּין וְלֹא בַּמּוֹכִין וְלֹא בָּעֲשָׂבִין — בִּזְמַן שֶׁהֵן לַחִין, אֲבָל טוֹמְנִין בָּהֶן כְּשֶׁהֵן יְבֵשִׁין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** one may **neither** insulate a pot **in straw, nor in the residue of grapes** that have been pressed for their juice, **nor in soft material,** e.g., from tattered clothing, **nor in grass, when these** materials **are moist. However, one may insulate** a pot **in them when they are dry.**


###### Shabbat 47b:10
[Shabbat 47b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:10)

**גְּמָ׳** אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: גֶּפֶת שֶׁל זֵיתִים תְּנַן, אֲבָל דְּשׁוּמְשְׁמִין שַׁפִּיר דָּמֵי, אוֹ דִילְמָא דְּשׁוּמְשְׁמִין תְּנַן וְכָל שֶׁכֵּן דְּזֵיתִים?!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** **A dilemma was raised before** the Sages: **Did we learn** with regard to **the residue of olives** in the mishna, **but** the residue **of sesame** seeds that were pressed for their oil, which produces less heat, may **well** be used for insulating food on Shabbat eve? **Or, perhaps, we learned** with regard to the residue **of sesame** in the mishna, **and all the more so** insulating food in the residue **of olives** is prohibited?


###### Shabbat 47b:11
[Shabbat 47b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:11)

תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא מִשּׁוּם חַד דְּבֵי רַבִּי יַנַּאי: קוּפָּה שֶׁטָּמַן בָּהּ — אָסוּר לְהַנִּיחָהּ עַל גֶּפֶת שֶׁל זֵיתִים. שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ שֶׁל זֵיתִים תְּנַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Come** and **hear** a resolution to this dilemma from what **Rabbi Zeira said in the name of one** of the Sages **of the school of Rabbi Yannai:** With regard to **a basket in which one insulated** food in a permissible manner, e.g., in dry soft material or the like, **it is prohibited to place it upon the residue of olives. Conclude from this** that **we learned** with regard to the residue **of olives** in our mishna; however, insulating food in the residue of sesame is permitted.


###### Shabbat 47b:12
[Shabbat 47b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/47b:12)

לְעוֹלָם אֵימָא לָךְ לְעִנְיַן הַטְמָנָה — דְּשׁוּמְשְׁמִין נָמֵי אָסוּר, לְעִנְיַן

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects this proof: **Actually, I** can **say to you** that **with regard to** actual **insulation,** the residue **of sesame is also prohibited.** However, **with regard to**