## Shabbat Daf 71b

###### Shabbat 71b:1
[Shabbat 71b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:1)

מִכְּלָל דְּרֵישָׁא מִין אֶחָד וְתַמְחוּי אֶחָד. מִין אֶחָד וְתַמְחוּי אֶחָד צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר?! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן — כְּגוֹן שֶׁהָיְתָה לוֹ יְדִיעָה בֵּינְתַיִים. וְרַבָּן גַּמְלִיאֵל הִיא דְּאָמַר: אֵין יְדִיעָה לַחֲצִי שִׁיעוּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**by inference, the first** clause in the mishna is referring to **one type** of food **and one dish.** The problem is then more difficult. In a case where one ate two halves of an olive-bulk **from one type** of food **and** in **one dish,** was it **necessary to say** that he is liable? That is obvious. **Rav Huna said: With what are we dealing here?** We are dealing with a case **where he had** a period of **awareness between** eating the two half olive-bulks. After eating the first half of an olive-bulk, he became aware that he had eaten food that was prohibited. Then he became unaware again and ate the second half of an olive-bulk. Although, with regard to sacrifices, awareness usually serves as a line of demarcation between unwitting transgressions performed prior to the period of awareness and unwitting transgressions performed thereafter, the mishna **is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabban Gamliel who said: There is no awareness for half a measure.** Since one is not liable to bring a sacrifice for half a measure, the fact that one became aware between consumption of the two halves of an olive-bulk is of no significance and does not demarcate between the two half-measures with regard to liability to bring a sin-offering.


###### Shabbat 71b:2
[Shabbat 71b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:2)

אִיתְּמַר: אָכַל שְׁנֵי זֵיתֵי חֵלֶב בְּהֶעְלֵם אֶחָד, וְנוֹדַע לוֹ עַל הָרִאשׁוֹן, וְחָזַר וְנוֹדַע לוֹ עַל הַשֵּׁנִי. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: חַיָּיב שְׁתַּיִם. וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר: אֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא אַחַת. רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר חַיָּיב: ״עַל חַטָּאתוֹ ... וְהֵבִיא״. וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ אָמַר פָּטוּר: ״מֵחַטָּאתוֹ וְנִסְלַח לוֹ״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
A dispute between *amora’im* **was stated: With regard to one who ate two olive**-bulks **of forbidden fat in one lapse of awareness, and became aware of** the transgression of eating the **first** olive-bulk, **and then became aware of** the transgression of eating the **second, Rabbi Yoḥanan said: He is liable** to bring **two** sin-offerings, one offering for each transgression. **And Reish Lakish said: He is liable** to bring **only one.** Both Sages cite proofs for their opinions. **Rabbi Yoḥanan said** that **he is liable** as it is stated: “And he shall offer **for his sin** that he sinned…**and he shall bring** the ox” (Leviticus 4:3-4), indicating that he is liable to bring a separate sacrifice for each sin. **And Reish Lakish said he is exempt,** as it is stated: “And the priest shall atone for him **from his sin, and it shall be forgiven for him”** (Leviticus 4:26), indicating that even if he atoned from his sin, i.e., for part of his sin and not all of his sin, the entire transgression is forgiven.


###### Shabbat 71b:3
[Shabbat 71b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:3)

וְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ, הָכְתִיב: ״עַל חַטָּאתוֹ ... וְהֵבִיא״! הַהוּא לְאַחַר כַּפָּרָה. וּלְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן נָמֵי, הָכְתִיב: ״מֵחַטָּאתוֹ וְנִסְלַח לוֹ״! הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן — כְּגוֹן שֶׁאָכַל כְּזַיִת וּמֶחֱצָה, וְנוֹדַע לוֹ עַל כְּזַיִת, וְחָזַר וְאָכַל כַּחֲצִי זַיִת אַחַר בְּהֶעְלֵמוֹ שֶׁל שֵׁנִי. מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא לִיצְטָרְפוּ — קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** how can **Reish Lakish** say that one sin-offering is sufficient? **Isn’t it written: “For his sin**…**and he shall bring”?** The Gemara answers: **That** verse refers to a case where he only became aware of the second sin **after** attaining **atonement** for the first. However, if he became aware prior to atonement, he is required to bring only one sin-offering. The Gemara asks: **And Rabbi Yoḥanan, too,** how can he say that one is liable to bring two sin-offerings? **Isn’t it written: “From his sin, and it shall be forgiven for him?** The Gemara answers: According to Rabbi Yoḥanan, **with what are we dealing here?** It is a case **where one ate an olive-bulk and a half, and he became aware of** his transgression of eating a single **olive-bulk, and then he ate another half of an olive**-bulk **in** the course of **the lapse of awareness of** the **second** half of an olive-bulk that he ate together with the whole olive-bulk. **Lest you say** that the two halves of an olive-bulk should **join together,** and he is liable to bring an additional sin-offering, the verse **teaches us** that in that case he is exempt because he has already atoned for part of his transgression.


###### Shabbat 71b:4
[Shabbat 71b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:4)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רָבִינָא לְרַב אָשֵׁי: דְּאִיתְיְדַע לֵיהּ קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי, וּבְהָא פְּלִיגִי: דְּמָר סָבַר יְדִיעוֹת מְחַלְּקוֹת, וּמָר סָבַר הַפְרָשׁוֹת מְחַלְּקוֹת, אֲבָל לְאַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה מוֹדֵי לֵיהּ רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ לְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן דְּחַיָּיב שְׁתַּיִם. אוֹ דִילְמָא דְּאִיתְיְדַע לֵיהּ לְאַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי, וּבְהָא פְּלִיגִי: דְּמָר סָבַר הַפְרָשׁוֹת מְחַלְּקוֹת, וּמָר סָבַר כַּפָּרוֹת מְחַלְּקוֹת. אֲבָל קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה מוֹדֵי לֵיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן לְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ דְּאֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא אַחַת. אוֹ דִילְמָא בֵּין בָּזוֹ וּבֵין בָּזוֹ מַחֲלוֹקֶת?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Ravina said to Rav Ashi:** In the dispute between Rabbi Yoḥanan and Reish Lakish, **they disagree** in a case **where one became aware** of the second transgression **prior to designating** an animal for the first sin-offering, **and this is** the point over which **they disagree: That** one **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that periods of **awareness separate.** Since one became aware of his sins at two different stages, he is liable to bring two sin-offerings. **And** one **Sage,** Reish Lakish, **holds** that only **designations** of animals for sacrifices **separate. However,** if one became aware of the second transgression **after designation** of the animal for the first sin-offering, **Reish Lakish agrees with Rabbi Yoḥanan** that **he is liable to** bring **two** sin-offerings. **Or, perhaps they are disagreeing** in a case **where he became aware** of the second sin **after designating** an animal for the first sin-offering, **and this is** the point over which **they disagree: That** one **Sage,** Rabbi Yoḥanan, **holds** that **designations separate; and** one **Sage,** Reish Lakish, **holds** that only **atonements separate.** Only after the sin-offering has been sacrificed on the altar and the sinner has obtained atonement can it be said that the sacrifice’s capacity to atone is spent and cannot atone for a sin of which he became aware afterward. **However,** if he became aware of the second sin **prior to designation** of the sacrifice, **Rabbi Yoḥanan agrees with Reish Lakish** that **he is liable to** bring **only one** sin-offering. **Or, perhaps,** the **dispute** between them is **both in this** case, before designation, **and in that** case, after designation.


###### Shabbat 71b:5
[Shabbat 71b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:5)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ: מִסְתַּבְּרָא בֵּין בָּזוֹ וּבֵין בָּזוֹ מַחֲלוֹקֶת. דְּאִי סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי, אֲבָל לְאַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה מוֹדֶה לֵיהּ רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ לְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן דְּחַיָּיב שְׁתַּיִם — אַדְּמוֹקֵים לֵיהּ קְרָא לְאַחַר כַּפָּרָה, לוֹקְמֵיהּ לְאַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה! וְאִי אַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי, אֲבָל קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה מוֹדֶה לֵיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן לְרֵישׁ לָקִישׁ דְּאֵינוֹ חַיָּיב אֶלָּא אַחַת, אַדְּמוֹקֵי לֵיהּ קְרָא בִּכְזַיִת וּמֶחֱצָה, לוֹקְמֵיהּ קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rav Ashi **said to him: It is reasonable** to say that **the dispute is both in this** case **and in that** case. **As, should it enter your mind** that **they disagree** only in a case where he became aware of the second sin **prior to designation** of an animal for the first sin-offering, **and** in a case where he became aware **after designation Reish Lakish agrees with Rabbi Yoḥanan** that **he is liable to** bring **two** sin-offerings, then **rather than establishing the verse** that posed a difficulty to Reish Lakish’s opinion in a case where one became aware of the second sin **after atonement** for the first, **let him establish it** in a case where one became aware of the transgression **after designation** of an animal for the first sin-offering. **And** similarly, **if** you say that **they disagree** only in a case where he became aware of the second sin **after designation, and** in a case where he became aware **prior to designation Rabbi Yoḥanan agrees with Reish Lakish** that **he is only liable to** bring **one** sin-offering, then **rather than establishing the verse** that posed a difficulty to Rabbi Yoḥanan’s opinion in a case where he ate **an olive-bulk and a half, let him establish it** in a case where he became aware of the transgression **prior to designation.**


###### Shabbat 71b:6
[Shabbat 71b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:6)

וְדִילְמָא סַפּוֹקֵי מְסַפְּקָא לֵיהּ, וְ״אִם תִּימְצֵי לוֹמַר״ קָאָמַר: אִם תִּימְצֵי לוֹמַר קוֹדֶם הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ, רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן הֵיכִי מוֹקֵי לֵיהּ לִקְרָא — בִּכְזַיִת וּמֶחֱצָה. וְאִם תִּימְצֵי לוֹמַר לְאַחַר הַפְרָשָׁה פְּלִיגִי, רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ הֵיכִי מוֹקֵי לֵיהּ לִקְרָא — בִּלְאַחַר כַּפָּרָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Ravina does not accept this proof, as, in his opinion, it is flawed: **And perhaps there is uncertainty** with regard to this matter, **and he spoke** employing the style of: **If you wish to say. If you wish to say** that **they disagree** in a case where he became aware of the second sin **prior to designation,** then **how does Rabbi Yoḥanan establish the verse?** He establishes the verse in a case where one ate **an olive-bulk and a half. And if you wish to say they disagree** in a case where he became aware of the second sin **after designation,** then **how does Reish Lakish establish the verse?** He establishes the verse in a case where one became aware of the second sin **after** attaining **atonement.**


###### Shabbat 71b:7
[Shabbat 71b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/71b:7)

אָמַר עוּלָּא: לְמַאן דְּאָמַר אָשָׁם וַדַּאי, לָא בָּעֵי יְדִיעָה בַּתְּחִילָּה,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Ulla said: According to the one who said** that in order to designate **a definite guilt-offering,** a sacrifice brought by one who committed a robbery, misused sacred objects, or had relations with a designated maidservant, one **does not require prior knowledge** that he definitely sinned,