## Shabbat Daf 80a

###### Shabbat 80a:1
[Shabbat 80a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:1)

תָּנָא: שְׁתֵּי אוֹתִיּוֹת בִּדְיוֹ, שְׁתֵּי אוֹתִיּוֹת בְּקוּלְמוֹס, שְׁתֵּי אוֹתִיּוֹת בְּקַלְמָרִין. בָּעֵי רָבָא: אוֹת אַחַת בִּדְיוֹ, אוֹת אַחַת בְּקוּלְמוֹס, אוֹת אַחַת בְּקַלְמָרִין, מַהוּ? תֵּיקוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
A *tanna* **taught** in a *Tosefta*: The measure that determines liability for carrying out ink is equivalent to that which is used to write **two letters** when he carries out dried **ink, and two letters** when the ink is **in the quill,** and **two letters in the inkwell [*kalmarin*]. Rava raised a dilemma:** What is the *halakha* if one carried out sufficient ink to write **one letter** in the form of dried **ink,** and sufficient ink to write **one letter in the quill,** and sufficient ink to write **one letter in the inkwell?** Do they join together to constitute the measure for liability, or is each considered separately? No resolution was found for this dilemma. Therefore, **let it stand** unresolved.


###### Shabbat 80a:2
[Shabbat 80a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:2)

אָמַר רָבָא: הוֹצִיא שְׁתֵּי אוֹתִיּוֹת וּכְתָבָן כְּשֶׁהוּא מְהַלֵּךְ — חַיָּיב, כְּתִיבָתָן זוֹ הִיא הַנָּחָתָן. וְאָמַר רָבָא: הוֹצִיא אוֹת אַחַת וּכְתָבָהּ, וְחָזַר וְהוֹצִיא אוֹת אַחַת וּכְתָבָהּ — פָּטוּר. מַאי טַעְמָא? בְּעִידָּנָא דְּאַפְּקַהּ לְבָתְרָיְיתָא, חֲסַר לֵיהּ שִׁיעוּרָא דְקַמַּיְיתָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava said: One who carried out** a measure of ink equivalent to that which is used to write **two letters** on Shabbat, **and he wrote** two letters **as he walked,** even though he did not place the written material in the public domain, he is **liable** for carrying out the ink. **Their writing is their placement.** He is liable even without placing the ink on the ground. **And Rava said: One who carried out** sufficient ink to write **one letter and he wrote it, and** then **proceeded to carry out** sufficient ink to write **one** more **letter and he wrote it,** is **exempt. What is the reason** that he is exempt? **At the time that he** carried out **the last** drop of ink, **he was lacking the first measure** of ink. The ink that he carried out first dried slightly in the interim and not enough remained to write one letter.


###### Shabbat 80a:3
[Shabbat 80a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:3)

וְאָמַר רָבָא: הוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת אַחַת וְהִנִּיחָה, וְחָזַר וְהוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת אַחַת וְהִנִּיחָה — רִאשׁוֹנָה נַעֲשָׂה כְּמִי שֶׁקְּלָטָהּ [כֶּלֶב] אוֹ שֶׁנִּשְׂרְפָה, וּפָטוּר. וְאַמַּאי? הָא מַנְּחָה? הָכִי קָאָמַר: וְאִם קָדַם וְהִגְבִּיהַּ רִאשׁוֹנָה קוֹדֶם הַנָּחַת שְׁנִיָּיה — נַעֲשֵׂית רִאשׁוֹנָה כְּמִי שֶׁנִּקְלְטָה אוֹ שֶׁנִּשְׂרְפָה, וּפָטוּר. וְאָמַר רָבָא: הוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת וְהִנִּיחָהּ, וְחָזַר וְהוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת וְהֶעֱבִירָהּ דֶּרֶךְ עָלֶיהָ — חַיָּיב. וְאַמַּאי? הָא לָא נָח! כְּגוֹן שֶׁהֶעֱבִירָהּ תּוֹךְ שְׁלֹשָׁה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And Rava said** with regard to a similar issue: **One who carried out half of a dried fig** on Shabbat **and placed it** in a different domain, **and proceeded to carry out** another **half of a dried fig and placed it,** the **first becomes as one that was snatched by a dog or burned and** he is **exempt,** as he did not carry out the measure of a dried fig for which he would be liable. The Gemara wonders: **And why** is he exempt; **isn’t** an entire dried fig **placed** together? Why isn’t he liable for carrying it out? The Gemara explains: **This is what** Rava **is saying: And if he lifted** the **first** half-fig **first before placement of** the **second,** i.e., the two half-figs were never placed together, the **first becomes as one that was snatched by a dog or burned and** he is **exempt. And Rava said: One who carried out half of a dried fig** on Shabbat **and placed it** in a different domain, **and proceeded to carry out** another **half of a dried fig and passed** the second half-fig **over** the already placed first half-fig, **is liable** even though they were never placed together. The Gemara asks: **And why** is he liable? The second half-fig **did not come to rest.** The Gemara answers: It is referring to a case **where he passed** the second half-fig **within three** handbreadths of the first half-fig. The *halakha* is that objects less than three handbreadths apart are considered attached.


###### Shabbat 80a:4
[Shabbat 80a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:4)

וְהָאָמַר רָבָא: תּוֹךְ שְׁלֹשָׁה לְרַבָּנַן צָרִיךְ הַנָּחָה עַל גַּבֵּי מַשֶּׁהוּ! לָא קַשְׁיָא: כָּאן בְּזוֹרֵק, כָּאן בְּמַעֲבִיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And didn’t Rava** himself **say:** An object that passes **within three handbreadths** of the ground, according **to** the opinion of **the Rabbis, must come to rest atop some** defined place and if it does not it is not considered placed? The Gemara answers: This is **not difficult. Here,** where Rava said that it must actually come to rest, it is referring to **one who throws** the object; **here,** where proximity alone is sufficient to render him liable, it is referring to **one who passes** an object in his hand, since he can place the object down at any point.


###### Shabbat 80a:5
[Shabbat 80a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:5)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: הוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת וְחָזַר וְהוֹצִיא חֲצִי גְרוֹגֶרֶת, בְּהֶעְלֵם אֶחָד — חַיָּיב, בִּשְׁתֵּי הֶעְלֵמוֹת — פָּטוּר. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: בְּהֶעְלֵם אֶחָד לִרְשׁוּת אַחַת — חַיָּיב, לִשְׁתֵּי רְשׁוּיוֹת — פָּטוּר. אָמַר רַבָּה: וְהוּא שֶׁיֵּשׁ חִיּוּב חַטָּאת בֵּינֵיהֶם. אֲבָל כַּרְמְלִית — לֹא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught: One who carried out half of a dried fig** into the public domain on Shabbat **and proceeded to carry out** another **half of a dried fig, within one lapse of awareness, is liable; within two lapses of awareness, he is exempt** because in neither lapse did he carry out a measure that would render him liable. **Rabbi Yosei says:** If he carried out the half-figs **within one lapse of awareness to one domain** he is **liable; to two domains he is exempt.** If he carried the two half-figs to two separate sections of the public domain, he is exempt because there is no permitted manner to unite the two halves. **Rabba said** with regard to Rabbi Yosei’s statement: **That is** only in a case **where there is** an area in which there is **liability to** bring a **sin-offering between them.** It only applies in a case where there is a private domain between the two sections of the public domain and carrying between them is prohibited by Torah law. **However,** if the two sections of the public domain were separated by **a *karmelit*, no,** he would not be exempt. In that case, there is no Torah prohibition against carrying between the two sections of the public domain through the *karmelit*, and by Torah law they are not considered separate.


###### Shabbat 80a:6
[Shabbat 80a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:6)

אַבָּיֵי אָמַר: אֲפִילּוּ כַּרְמְלִית. אֲבָל פִּיסְלָא — לֹא. וְרָבָא אָמַר: אֲפִילּוּ פִּיסְלָא. וְאָזְדָא רָבָא לְטַעְמֵיהּ, דְּאָמַר רָבָא: רְשׁוּת שַׁבָּת כִּרְשׁוּת גִּיטִּין דָּמְיָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said: Even** if they were separated by **a *karmelit*** it is not considered one domain, and he is exempt. **However,** if the two sections were separated by **a large beam, no,** they are not considered separate. **And Rava said: Even** if the two sections were separated by **a large beam,** according to Rabbi Yosei, they are considered separate and he is exempt. The Gemara comments: **And Rava follows his** line of **reasoning** stated elsewhere **as Rava said:** The definition of **domain** for **Shabbat is like** the definition of **domain** for **bills of divorce.** Just as with regard to bills of divorce, two areas separated by a beam are not considered one domain, so too, with regard to the *halakhot* of Shabbat, they are not considered one domain.


###### Shabbat 80a:7
[Shabbat 80a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:7)

כְּחוֹל כְּדֵי לִכְחוֹל עַיִן אַחַת. עַיִן אַחַת הָא לָא כָּחֲלִי! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: שֶׁכֵּן צְנוּעוֹת כּוֹחֲלוֹת עַיִן אַחַת. מֵיתִיבִי, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: כְּחוֹל, אִם לִרְפוּאָה — כְּדֵי לִכְחוֹל עַיִן אַחַת, אִם לְקַשֵּׁט — בִּשְׁתֵּי עֵינַיִם. תַּרְגְּמַהּ הִילֵּל בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר נַחְמָנִי: כִּי תַּנְיָא הַהִיא בְּעִירָנִיּוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **blue eye shadow** is **equivalent** to that which is used **to paint one eye blue.** The Gemara asks: How could the mishna say **one eye?** Women **do not paint** only one eye **blue. Rav Huna said: Because modest** women, who cover their faces with a veil, **paint** only the **one eye** that shows **blue.** The Gemara **raises an objection** from a *baraita*: **Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says:** For carrying out **blue eye shadow, if** it is used **for healing,** the measure for liability is **equivalent** to that which is used **to paint one eye blue; if** it is used **to adorn** the eye, the measure that determines liability for carrying out is **equivalent** to that which is used **for two eyes. Hillel, son of Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani, explained it: When this** *baraita* **was taught** it was in reference to **village women.** Because immodest behavior is less common there, women do not customarily cover their faces.


###### Shabbat 80a:8
[Shabbat 80a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:8)

(שַׁעֲוָה כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן עַל פִּי נֶקֶב קָטָן. תָּנָא: כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן עַל פִּי נֶקֶב קָטָן שֶׁל יַיִן.)

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **wax** is **equivalent** to that which is used **to place on the opening of a small hole** to seal it. A *tanna* **taught** in a *Tosefta*: **Enough to place on the opening of a small hole** in a receptacle holding **wine.** The size of a hole that enables pouring wine is smaller than the size of the hole required when pouring more viscous liquids.


###### Shabbat 80a:9
[Shabbat 80a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:9)

דֶּבֶק כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן בְּרֹאשׁ הַשַּׁפְשָׁף. תָּנָא: כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן בְּרֹאשׁ שַׁפְשָׁף שֶׁבְּרֹאשׁ קָנֶה שֶׁל צַיָּידִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **glue** is **equivalent** to that which is used **to place on the top of a board [*shafshaf*].** The Sages **taught:** This means an amount **equivalent** to that which is used **to place on the top of a board that is** attached **to the top of a hunter’s rod.** Hunters would spread glue to trap the birds that land on the board.


###### Shabbat 80a:10
[Shabbat 80a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:10)

זֶפֶת וְגׇפְרִית כְּדֵי לַעֲשׂוֹת כּוּ׳. תָּנָא: כְּדֵי לַעֲשׂוֹת נֶקֶב קָטָן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **tar and sulfur** is equivalent to that which is used **to** seal a hole in a vessel and to **make a** small **hole** in that seal. Tar and sulfur were used to seal large cavities in jars. Holes were sometimes made in those seals. A *tanna* **taught** in a *Tosefta*: One is liable for carrying out a measure **equivalent** to that which can be used **to make** a large hole into **a small hole.**


###### Shabbat 80a:11
[Shabbat 80a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:11)

חַרְסִית כְּדֵי לַעֲשׂוֹת פִּי כוּר כּוּ׳. לְמֵימְרָא דְּשִׁיעוּרָא דְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה נְפִישׁ? הָא קַיְימָא לַן דְּשִׁיעוּרָא דְרַבָּנַן נְפִישׁ, דִּתְנַן, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: כְּדֵי לִיטּוֹל הֵימֶנּוּ מִדַּת מִנְעָל לְקָטָן. אֵימָא: כְּדֵי לָסוּד פִּיטְפּוּט כִּירָה קְטַנָּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **crushed earthenware** is **equivalent** to that which is used to knead and make an opening for the bellows to be placed in a gold refiners’ crucible. Rabbi Yehuda says: An amount equivalent to that which is used to make a small tripod for the crucible. The Gemara wonders: **Is that to say that the measure** of Rabbi Yehuda **is greater? Don’t we maintain that the measure of the Rabbis is greater, as we learned** in a mishna that **Rabbi Yehuda says** with regard to reeds: The measure for liability is **equivalent** to that which is used **to take the measure of a shoe for a child?** That is smaller than the measure determined by the Rabbis. The Gemara answers: Here too, **say** it does not mean sufficient material to make the entire tripod, but to **plaster the** cracks in the **small tripod of a small stove,** which requires a minimal amount of plaster.


###### Shabbat 80a:12
[Shabbat 80a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/80a:12)

סוּבִּין כְּדֵי לִיתֵּן עַל פִּי כוּר שֶׁל צוֹרְפֵי זָהָב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
We learned in the mishna: The measure that determines liability for carrying out **bran** is **equivalent** to that which is used **to place on the opening of a gold refiners’ crucible.**