## Shabbat Daf 82b

###### Shabbat 82b:1
[Shabbat 82b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/82b:1)

הָיָה שֶׁלּוֹ וְשֶׁל עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה, נִידּוֹן מֶחֱצָה עַל מֶחֱצָה. אֲבָנָיו וְעֵצָיו וַעֲפָרָיו מְטַמְּאִים כְּשֶׁרֶץ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״שַׁקֵּץ תְּשַׁקְּצֶנּוּ וְגוֹ׳״. רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא אוֹמֵר כְּנִדָּה, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״תִּזְרֵם כְּמוֹ דָוָה״ — מָה נִדָּה מְטַמְּאָה בְּמַשָּׂא, אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה מְטַמְּאָה בְּמַשָּׂא. אָמַר רַבָּה: ״תִּזְרֵם״ דְּאָמַר קְרָא, נַכְּרִינְהוּ מִינָּךְ כְּזָר. ״צֵא תֹּאמַר לוֹ״ — הִכָּנֵס אַל תֹּאמַר לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the wall stood upon ground that **belonged to him and to the** house of **idolatry,** the area **is calculated as half and half** as far as moving into his property before rebuilding the wall, and one may build the wall four cubits from the middle of the wall. **Its stones and its wood and its dust** from the house of idolatry **transmit impurity like creeping animals,** and by rabbinic decree, one who touches them becomes impure like one who touches a creeping animal, **as it is stated:** “And you shall not bring an abomination into your house and become banned like it, **you shall utterly detest it [*shaketz teshaketzenu*]** and you shall utterly abhor it, for it is a banned object” (Deuteronomy 7:26). *Shaketz* is a term used with regard to creeping animals. **Rabbi Akiva says:** Idolatry transmits impurity **like a menstruating woman, as it is stated: “You will cast them away as you would a menstruating woman [*dava*]”** (Isaiah 30:22). **Just as a menstruating woman transmits impurity** imparted **by carrying,** as one who moves a menstruating woman without touching her becomes impure, **so too, idolatry transmits impurity** imparted **by carrying. Rabba said** in explanation of that which **the verse said: “You will cast them away”: Make them foreign to you like a stranger.** The end of the same verse: **“You will tell it, get out”** means that under **no** circumstances can you **say to it, come in.**


###### Shabbat 82b:2
[Shabbat 82b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/82b:2)

וְאָמַר רַבָּה: בְּמַשָּׂא דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְּלִיגִי דִּמְטַמְּאָה, דְּהָא אִתַּקַּשׁ לְנִדָּה. כִּי פְּלִיגִי בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא. רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא סָבַר כְּנִדָּה: מָה נִדָּה מְטַמְּאָה בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא — אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה מְטַמְּאָה בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא. וְרַבָּנַן סָבְרִי כְּשֶׁרֶץ: מָה שֶׁרֶץ לֹא מְטַמֵּא בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא — אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה לֹא מְטַמְּאָה בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** to the essence of the dispute, **Rabba said: With regard to** impurity imparted **by carrying, everyone agrees** that idol worship **transmits impurity, as it is juxtaposed to a menstruating woman** in the verse. **Where they argue,** it is **with regard to** the *halakha* of **a very heavy stone.** There is a special law with regard to the ritual impurity of a *zav* and a menstruating woman. If they sit on an object, even if it is an object that cannot become ritually impure, and beneath that object is a vessel, even though the weight of the *zav* and the menstruating woman has no effect on the vessel, it becomes ritually impure. **Rabbi Akiva holds** that the impurity of idolatry is **like** the impurity of a **menstruating woman** in all respects; **just as a menstruating woman transmits impurity via a very heavy stone, so too, idolatry transmits impurity via a very heavy stone. And the Rabbis hold** that in this regard, the impurity of idolatry is **like** the impurity of **a creeping animal; just as a creeping animal does not transmit impurity via a very heavy stone, so too, idolatry does not transmit impurity via a very heavy stone.**


###### Shabbat 82b:3
[Shabbat 82b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/82b:3)

וּלְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא, לְמַאי הִלְכְתָא אִיתַּקַּשׁ לְשֶׁרֶץ? — לִמְשַׁמְּשֶׁיהָ. וּלְרַבָּנַן, לְמַאי הִלְכְתָא אִיתַּקַּשׁ לְנִדָּה? — לְמַשָּׂא. וְלַקְּשֵׁיהּ רַחֲמָנָא לִנְבֵלָה! אִין הָכִי נָמֵי, אֶלָּא: מָה נִדָּה אֵינָהּ לְאֵבָרִין, אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אֵינָהּ לְאֵבָרִין. וְאֶלָּא הָא דְּבָעֵי רַב חָמָא בַּר גּוּרְיָא: עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה יֶשְׁנָהּ לְאֵבָרִין אוֹ אֵינָהּ לְאֵבָרִין? תִּיפְשׁוֹט לֵיהּ מֵהָא, דִּלְרַבָּנַן אֵינָהּ לְאֵבָרִין! רַב חָמָא בַּר גּוּרְיָא אַלִּיבָּא דְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא בָּעֵי לַהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** according **to Rabbi Akiva,** who holds that the impurity of idolatry is similar to that of a menstruating woman in all respects, **for what *halakha* was it juxtaposed to a creeping animal?** The Gemara explains: In his opinion, it was not stated in reference to idolatry itself, but rather **to its accessories,** objects used for the purposes of idolatry. The Gemara asks further: **And according to the Rabbis, for what *halakha* was it juxtaposed to a menstruating woman? To** teach that it transmits impurity through **carrying. And** instead of juxtaposing idolatry to both a menstruating woman and to creeping animals, **let the Torah juxtapose it to an** animal **carcass,** which transmits impurity through carrying and does not transmit impurity via a very heavy stone, since according to the Rabbis the law is the same for idolatry. The Gemara answers: **Yes, it is indeed so.** In that sense, juxtaposition to an animal carcass would suffice. **However,** the juxtaposition to a menstruating woman teaches: **Just as a menstruating woman** does **not** transmit impurity through **limbs,** as if the limb of a menstruating woman is supported by a vessel, the vessel does not become ritually impure (Ra’avad), **so too, idolatry does not** transmit impurity through **limbs,** as a severed part of an idol does not transmit impurity. The Gemara is puzzled by this: **But that which Rav Ḥama bar Guria raised as a dilemma: Does idolatry have** the capacity to transmit impurity through **limbs or does it not** have the capacity to transmit impurity through **limbs? Resolve** the dilemma **from this, as according to** the opinion of **the Rabbis, it does not** transmit impurity through **limbs.** And the Gemara replies: Although that is so, **Rav Ḥama bar Guria raised the dilemma in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Akiva** and the dilemma is unresolved.


###### Shabbat 82b:4
[Shabbat 82b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Shabbat/r/82b:4)

וְרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אָמַר: בְּאֶבֶן מְסָמָא דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא לָא פְּלִיגִי דְּלָא מְטַמְּאָה. כִּי פְּלִיגִי בְּמַשָּׂא: רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא סָבַר כְּנִדָּה, מָה נִדָּה מְטַמְּאָה בְּמַשָּׂא — אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה מְטַמְּאָה בְּמַשָּׂא. וְרַבָּנַן סָבְרִי כְּשֶׁרֶץ, מָה שֶׁרֶץ לֹא מְטַמֵּא בְּמַשָּׂא — אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה לֹא מְטַמְּאָה בְּמַשָּׂא. וְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא, לְמַאי הִלְכְתָא אִיתַּקַּשׁ לְשֶׁרֶץ? לִמְשַׁמְּשֶׁיהָ. וְרַבָּנַן לְמַאי הִלְכְתָא אִיתַּקַּשׁ לְנִדָּה? מָה נִדָּה אֵינָהּ לָאֵבָרִים, אַף עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה אֵינָהּ לְאֵבָרִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** in another approach to this dispute, **Rabbi Elazar said: With regard to a very heavy stone, everyone agrees** that idolatry **does not transmit impurity** in that manner. **Where they disagree** is **with regard to** impurity imparted by **carrying. Rabbi Akiva holds** that the legal status of idolatry is **like** that of **a menstruating woman: Just as a menstruating woman transmits impurity through carrying, so too, idolatry transmits impurity through carrying. And the Rabbis hold** that the legal status of idolatry is **like** that of **a creeping animal: Just as a creeping animal does not transmit impurity through carrying, so too, idolatry does not transmit impurity through carrying.** The Gemara asks: **And** according to **Rabbi Akiva’s** opinion, with regard **to what *halakha* was** idolatry **juxtaposed to a creeping animal?** The Gemara answers: With regard **to** the *halakha* that **its accessories** do not transmit impurity through carrying. The Gemara asks: **And** according to **the Rabbis,** with regard **to what *halakha* was** idolatry **juxtaposed to a menstruating woman?** The Gemara answers: **Just as a menstruating woman does not** transmit impurity **through** her **limbs, so too, idolatry does not** transmit impurity **through** its **limbs.**