## Sukkah Daf 12b

###### Sukkah 12b:1
[Sukkah 12b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/12b:1)

דְּאֵין מְסַכְּכִין מִשּׁוּם גְּזֵרַת אוֹצָר, הָא דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא שַׁפִּיר דָּמֵי. הָתָם דְּקָתָנֵי ״אֵינָהּ סוּכָּה״ אֲפִילּוּ דִּיעֲבַד — מִדְּאוֹרָיְיתָא נָמֵי אֵינָהּ סוּכָּה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**that one** may **not roof, due to the decree of the storehouse** issued by the Sages; **but by Torah** law, it **seems well** to do so. **There,** in the mishna pertaining to the stack of grain, **where it teaches: It is not a *sukka*,** it means that not only by rabbinic decree, but **even after the fact, by Torah** law **as well, it is not a *sukka*.**


###### Sukkah 12b:2
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אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: סִכְּכָהּ בְּחִיצִּין זְכָרִים — כְּשֵׁרָה. בִּנְקֵבוֹת — פְּסוּלָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rav Yehuda said** that **Rav said:** If **one roofed** a *sukka* **with convex arrow** shafts, which are made of wood with a protrusion on the end that is fitted into the socket of the metal arrowhead, the *sukka* is **fit.** These shafts are flat wooden utensils, which are not susceptible to ritual impurity. Therefore, they are fit roofing for a *sukka*. If, however, one roofed his *sukka* **with concave** arrow shafts, which have a socket into which a protrusion from the metal arrowhead is inserted, the *sukka* is **unfit.** Since these shafts are wooden utensils with a receptacle, they are susceptible to ritual impurity. Therefore, they are unfit roofing for a *sukka*.


###### Sukkah 12b:3
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זְכָרִים כְּשֵׁרָה, פְּשִׁיטָא! מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: נִיגְזוֹר זְכָרִים אַטּוּ נְקֵבוֹת, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: The fact that if one roofed a *sukka* with **convex** arrow shafts, the *sukka* is **fit** is **obvious.** It is no different from roofing with straight, smooth reeds. The Gemara answers: Stating this *halakha* is necessary. **Lest you say: Let us issue a decree** and prohibit roofing with **convex** shafts **due to** the prohibition against roofing with **concave** shafts, therefore Rav **teaches us** that no decree is issued, and convex shafts are fit roofing.


###### Sukkah 12b:4
[Sukkah 12b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/12b:4)

(אָמַר מָר:) בִּנְקֵבוֹת פְּסוּלָה, פְּשִׁיטָא! מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: בֵּית קִבּוּל הֶעָשׂוּי לְמַלּאוֹת לָא שְׁמֵיהּ קִיבּוּל, קָמַשְׁמַע לַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Master said:** If one roofed a *sukka* with **concave** arrows, the *sukka* is **unfit.** The Gemara asks: This is **obvious.** All wooden receptacles are susceptible to ritual impurity. The Gemara answers: Stating this *halakha* is necessary. **Lest you say: A receptacle that is designated to be** permanently **filled, its status** is **not** that of **a receptacle,** as a receptacle is typically filled and emptied; in this case, once the arrowhead fills the receptacle, it remains there, therefore Rav **teaches us** that it is deemed a receptacle and is not fit roofing.


###### Sukkah 12b:5
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אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: סִכְּכָהּ בַּאֲנִיצֵי פִשְׁתָּן — פְּסוּלָה. בְּהוּצְנֵי פִשְׁתָּן — כְּשֵׁרָה. וְהוּשְׁנֵי פִשְׁתָּן, אֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ מַהוּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rabba bar bar Ḥana said** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan said:** If **one roofed** a *sukka* **with bundles of combed flax,** the *sukka* is **unfit,** as flax at that stage of processing is the raw material from which threads are spun, and it is susceptible to ritual impurity. If one roofed a *sukka* **with stalks of flax,** the *sukka* is **fit.** Since they remain in their natural state and have not been processed in any way, their legal status is that of any tree, and they are not susceptible to ritual impurity. **And** if one roofed with **the *hoshen* of flax,** stalks at an intermediate stage of processing, **I do not know what** their status is, i.e., whether or not they are fit for roofing.


###### Sukkah 12b:6
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וְהוּשְׁנֵי עַצְמָן אֵינִי יוֹדֵעַ. מָה נַפְשָׁךְ: אִי דְּיִיק וְלָא נְפִיץ — הוּשְׁנֵי קָרֵי לֵיהּ, אֲבָל תְּרֵי וְלָא דְּיִיק — הוּצְנֵי קָרֵי לֵיהּ, אוֹ דִלְמָא: תְּרֵי וְלָא דְּיִיק נָמֵי הוּשְׁנֵי קָרֵי לֵיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Rabba bar bar Ḥana added: **And** when Rabbi Yoḥanan used the term ***hoshen* of** flax **itself, I do not know** to what stage of processing the flax he was referring. **Which way** do **you** look at it? Is it that **if one crushed** the flax **and did not comb** it, Rabbi Yoḥanan **calls it *hoshen*, but if he soaked** it **and did not crush** it, Rabbi Yoḥanan **calls it *hotzen*,** because he has not actually begun processing the flax itself? **Or, perhaps if he soaked** it **and did not crush** it, Rabbi Yoḥanan **calls it *hoshen*,** while *hotzen* is reserved for flax that was not processed at all.


###### Sukkah 12b:7
[Sukkah 12b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/12b:7)

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: הָנֵי שׁוּשֵׁי וּשְׁווֹצְרֵי — מְסַכְּכִין בְּהוּ. אַבָּיֵי אָמַר: בְּשׁוּשֵׁי מְסַכְּכִין, בִּשְׁווֹצְרֵי לָא מְסַכְּכִין. מַאי טַעְמָא, כֵּיוָן

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Rav Yehuda said:** With regard to **these** wide **licorice and wormwood** leaves, **one** may **roof his *sukka* with them,** since these are not consumed by people. Their legal status is that of any other plant; they are not susceptible to ritual impurity. **Abaye said: With licorice** leaves, **one** may **roof** his *sukka*; **with wormwood** leaves, **one** may **not roof** his *sukka*. **What is the reason** for this distinction? **Since**