## Sukkah Daf 9a

###### Sukkah 9a:1
[Sukkah 9a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:1)

**מַתְנִי׳** סוּכָּה יְשָׁנָה — בֵּית שַׁמַּאי פּוֹסְלִין וּבֵית הִלֵּל מַכְשִׁירִין. וְאֵיזוֹ הִיא סוּכָּה יְשָׁנָה, כׇּל שֶׁעֲשָׂאָהּ קוֹדֶם לֶחָג שְׁלֹשִׁים יוֹם. אֲבָל אִם עֲשָׂאָהּ לְשֵׁם חַג, אֲפִילּוּ מִתְּחִילַּת הַשָּׁנָה — כְּשֵׁרָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** With regard to **an old *sukka*, Beit Shammai deem it unfit** for the mitzva of *sukka* **and Beit Hillel deem it fit. And which is** considered **an old *sukka*?** It is **any** booth **that one established thirty days** or more **prior to the Festival** without expressly designating that it was for the mitzva of *sukka*. In that case, the assumption is that he constructed it for some other purpose. **However, if he established it** expressly **for the sake of the festival** of *Sukkot*, **even** if he constructed it **at the beginning of the** previous **year, it is fit** for use in the fulfillment of the mitzva of *sukka*, even according to Beit Shammai.


###### Sukkah 9a:2
[Sukkah 9a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:2)

**גְּמָ׳** מַאי טַעְמַיְיהוּ דְּבֵית שַׁמַּאי? אָמַר קְרָא: ״חַג הַסּוּכּוֹת שִׁבְעַת יָמִים לַה׳״, סוּכָּה הָעֲשׂוּיָה לְשֵׁם חַג בָּעֵינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** The Gemara asks: **What is the rationale** for the opinion **of Beit Shammai?** The Gemara explains that it is as **the verse states: “The festival of *Sukkot* is seven days unto the Lord”** (Leviticus 23:34), indicating that **we require a *sukka* established for the sake of the Festival.** A *sukka* not constructed expressly for the Festival is unfit.


###### Sukkah 9a:3
[Sukkah 9a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:3)

וּבֵית הִלֵּל? הַהוּא מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְכִדְרַב שֵׁשֶׁת. דְּאָמַר רַב שֵׁשֶׁת מִשּׁוּם רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא: מִנַּיִן לַעֲצֵי סוּכָּה שֶׁאֲסוּרִין כׇּל שִׁבְעָה — תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״חַג הַסּוּכּוֹת שִׁבְעַת יָמִים לַה׳״,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** how do **Beit Hillel** interpret this verse? The Gemara answers: In Beit Hillel’s opinion, **that** verse **is necessary to** teach **in accordance with** the statement **of Rav Sheshet, as Rav Sheshet said in the name of Rabbi Akiva: From where** is it derived **that** use of **the wood of the *sukka* is prohibited** for any purpose other than for the *sukka* **all seven** days of the Festival, and it is designated exclusively for the mitzva? It is derived as **the verse states: “The festival of *Sukkot* is seven days unto the Lord.”**


###### Sukkah 9a:4
[Sukkah 9a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:4)

וְתַנְיָא, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן בְּתִירָה אוֹמֵר: כְּשֵׁם שֶׁחָל שֵׁם שָׁמַיִם עַל הַחֲגִיגָה, כָּךְ חָל שֵׁם שָׁמַיִם עַל הַסּוּכָּה, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״חַג הַסּוּכּוֹת שִׁבְעַת יָמִים לַה׳״, מָה חַג לַה׳ — אַף סוּכָּה לַה׳.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And it is taught** in a *baraita* in explanation that **Rabbi Yehuda ben Beteira says: Just as the name of Heaven takes effect upon the Festival peace-offering, so too, the name of Heaven takes effect upon the *sukka*, as it is stated: “The festival of *Sukkot* is seven days unto the Lord”; just as the Festival** offering **is** consecrated **to the Lord, so too, the *sukka* is** consecrated **to the Lord.**


###### Sukkah 9a:5
[Sukkah 9a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:5)

וּבֵית שַׁמַּאי נָמֵי מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְהָכִי! אִין הָכִי נָמֵי,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **But** don’t **Beit Shammai require** the verse **to** derive **this** *halakha* **as well?** The Gemara answers: **Yes, indeed it is so** that Beit Shammai derives the sanctity of the wood of the *sukka* from this verse. Therefore, the rationale for their opinion with regard to an old *sukka* must be based on a different verse.


###### Sukkah 9a:6
[Sukkah 9a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:6)

אֶלָּא מַאי טַעְמַיְיהוּ דְּבֵית שַׁמַּאי — כְּתִיב קְרָא אַחֲרִינָא: ״חַג הַסּוּכּוֹת תַּעֲשֶׂה לְךָ שִׁבְעַת יָמִים״, סוּכָּה הָעֲשׂוּיָה לְשֵׁם חַג בָּעֵינַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, what is the rationale** for the opinion **of Beit Shammai** with regard to an old *sukka*? **Another verse is written: “You shall prepare for you the festival of *Sukkot* for seven days”** (Deuteronomy 16:13), from which it is derived that **we require a *sukka* established for the sake of the Festival.**


###### Sukkah 9a:7
[Sukkah 9a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:7)

וּבֵית הִלֵּל — הַהוּא מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְעוֹשִׂין סוּכָּה בְּחוּלּוֹ שֶׁל מוֹעֵד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** how do **Beit Hillel** interpret this verse? The Gemara answers: **That** verse **is necessary to** teach **that one** may **establish a *sukka*** even **during the intermediate days of the Festival.** If one failed to construct a *sukka* prior to the onset of the Festival, or if it collapsed during the Festival, he may establish it during the intermediate days, as the mitzva to establish a *sukka* is in effect for all seven days of the Festival.


###### Sukkah 9a:8
[Sukkah 9a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:8)

וּבֵית שַׁמַּאי — סְבִירָא לְהוּ כְּרַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר, דְּאָמַר: אֵין עוֹשִׂין סוּכָּה בְּחוּלּוֹ שֶׁל מוֹעֵד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** from where do **Beit Shammai** derive this *halakha*? **They hold in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Eliezer, who said: One** may **not establish a *sukka* during the intermediate days of the Festival.** Therefore, the requirement to build the *sukka* for the sake of the mitzva may be derived from this verse.


###### Sukkah 9a:9
[Sukkah 9a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:9)

וּבֵית הִלֵּל לֵית לְהוּ דְּרַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב? דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: עֲשָׂאָהּ מִן הַקּוֹצִין וּמִן הַנִּימִין וּמִן הַגְּרָדִין — פְּסוּלָה. מִן הַסִּיסִין — כְּשֵׁרָה,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara proceeds to clarify Beit Hillel’s opinion: **And** do **Beit Hillel not** agree with the statement **that Rav Yehuda** said that **Rav said? As Rav Yehuda said** that **Rav said:** If **one fashioned** ritual fringes **from** hanging threads that remain protruding from the fabric like **thorns** after most of the superfluous threads were torn, and tied them into ritual fringes; **or** if he tied the fringes **from threads** that hang down after sewing; **or** if he tied them **from the fringes [*geradin*]** that hang from the bottom of a garment, the ritual fringes are **unfit** for fulfilling the mitzva. However, if the ritual fringes were tied **from balls of thread** that were not spun for the sake of the mitzva, they are **fit.**


###### Sukkah 9a:10
[Sukkah 9a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:10)

כִּי אַמְרִיתַהּ קַמֵּיהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל, אָמַר לִי: אַף מִן הַסִּיסִין נָמֵי פְּסוּלָה, (אַלְמָא) דְּבָעֵינַן טְוִיָּה לִשְׁמָהּ. הָכָא נָמֵי בָּעֵינַן סוּכָּה עֲשׂוּיָה לִשְׁמָהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
And Rav Yehuda related: **When I stated this** *halakha* in the name of Rav **before Shmuel, he said to me: Even** ritual fringes tied **from balls of thread** are **unfit, as we require the spinning** of the thread to be **for the sake of** the mitzva. Just as the threads for the ritual fringes must be spun for the sake of the mitzva, **here too, let us require a *sukka* established for the sake of** the mitzva.


###### Sukkah 9a:11
[Sukkah 9a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:11)

שָׁאנֵי הָתָם, דְּאָמַר קְרָא: ״גְּדִילִים תַּעֲשֶׂה לָךְ״, לָךְ — לְשֵׁם חוֹבָךְ. הָכָא נָמֵי: ״חַג הַסּוּכּוֹת תַּעֲשֶׂה לְךָ״, לָךְ — לְשֵׁם חוֹבָךְ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: It is **different there, as the verse states: “You shall prepare for you fringes”** (Deuteronomy 22:12), from which it is derived: **“For you,” for the sake of your obligation.** The fringes, from the beginning of their production, must be produced for the sake of the mitzva. The Gemara asks: **Here, too,** with regard to *sukka*, the verse says: **“You shall prepare for you the festival of *Sukkot*”** (Deuteronomy 16:13). Shouldn’t it be derived: **“For you,” for the sake of your obligation?**


###### Sukkah 9a:12
[Sukkah 9a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:12)

הַהוּא מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְמַעוֹטֵי גְּזוּלָה. הָתָם נָמֵי מִיבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְמַעוֹטֵי גְּזוּלָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers that **this** term “for you” **is required to exclude** use of a **stolen** *sukka*; establish the *sukka* for you, and do not use a *sukka* belonging to another. The Gemara asks: **There, too,** with regard to ritual fringes, **isn’t** the term “for you” **required to exclude** use of **stolen** ritual fringes?


###### Sukkah 9a:13
[Sukkah 9a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Sukkah/r/9a:13)

הָתָם כְּתִיב קְרָא אַחֲרִינָא: ״וְעָשׂוּ לָהֶם״ — מִשֶּׁלָּהֶם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara answers: **There,** with regard to ritual fringes, **another verse is written: “And they shall make for them** ritual fringes” (Numbers 15:38), from which it is derived: “For them,” **of their own,** to exclude the use of stolen ritual fringes. Therefore from the term “for you,” it may be derived that ritual fringes must be produced for the sake of the mitzva.