## Taanit Daf 19b

###### Taanit 19b:1
[Taanit 19b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/19b:1)

בַּצּוּרְתָּא. מְדִינְתָּא אַמְּדִינְתָּא — כַּפְנָא. וְאָמַר רַבִּי חֲנִינָא: סְאָה בְּסֶלַע וּשְׁכִיחָא — בַּצּוּרְתָּא. אַרְבָּעָה וְלָא שְׁכִיחָא — כַּפְנָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
this is considered **a drought.** If produce must be brought **from** one **province to** another **province,** this is considered **a famine. And Rabbi Ḥanina said:** If **a *se’a*** of grain is sold **for a *sela*, but** it is **available,** this is considered **a drought.** Although prices have risen, there is still grain for those who can afford it. However, if **four *se’a*** of grain is sold **for a *sela*, and** it is **not available,** this is considered **a famine.**


###### Taanit 19b:2
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אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּזְמַן שֶׁהַמָּעוֹת בְּזוֹל וּפֵירוֹת בְּיוֹקֶר, אֲבָל מָעוֹת בְּיוֹקֶר וּפֵירוֹת בְּזוֹל — מַתְרִיעִין עָלֶיהָ מִיָּד. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: נְהִירְנָא כַּד הֲווֹ קָיְימִי אַרְבְּעָה סְאִין בְּסֶלַע, וַהֲווֹ נְפִישִׁי נְפִיחֵי כְפַן בִּטְבֶרְיָא מִדְּלֵית אִיסָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yoḥanan said: They taught** this **only** with regard to a time **when money is cheap** and everyone has it, **and produce is expensive. However,** when **money is expensive,** i.e., unavailable, **and produce is cheap, they cry out about it immediately,** as this is considered a famine. **As Rabbi Yoḥanan said: I remember when four *se’a*** of produce **were** sold **for** one ***sela*, and** yet **there were many swollen by famine in Tiberias, as they did not have** even one ***issar*** with which to purchase food.


###### Taanit 19b:3
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יָרְדוּ לַצְּמָחִין אֲבָל לֹא לָאִילָן. בִּשְׁלָמָא לַצְּמָחִים וְלֹא לָאִילָן — מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ דַּאֲתָא נִיחָא, וְלָא אֲתָיא רַזְיָא. לָאִילָן וְלֹא לַצְּמָחִין — דַּאֲתָיא רַזְיָא, וְלָא אֲתָיא נִיחָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna taught: If sufficient rain **fell for the vegetation but not** enough **fell for the trees;** if it was enough for the trees but not for the vegetation; or if sufficient rain fell for both this and that, i.e., vegetation and trees, but not enough to fill the cisterns, ditches, and caves with water to last the summer, they cry out about it immediately. The Gemara comments: **Granted,** with regard to rain that fell in sufficient quantities **for the vegetation but not for the trees,** this case **can be found,** e.g., **if gentle** rain **fell but heavy** rain **did not fall,** this is insufficient for the trees. Furthermore, it is possible for enough rain to fall **for the trees but** it is **not** effective **for the vegetation, if heavy** rain **fell but gentle** rain **did not fall.**


###### Taanit 19b:4
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לָזֶה וְלָזֶה אֲבָל לֹא לַבּוֹרוֹת וְלֹא לַשִּׁיחִין וּמְעָרוֹת — מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ דַּאֲתָיא רַזְיָא וְנִיחָא, מִיהוּ טוּבָא לָא אֲתָיא. אֶלָּא הָא דְּתַנְיָא: יָרְדוּ לְבוֹרוֹת לַשִּׁיחִין וְלַמְּעָרוֹת אֲבָל לֹא לָזֶה וְלָזֶה, הֵיכִי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ? דַּאֲתָיא בִּשְׁפִיכוּתָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Likewise, in the case of rain that benefits **both this and that,** trees and vegetation, **but not cisterns, ditches, and caves, you** can **find** this too, **if** both **heavy and gentle** rain **fell, however,** they did **not fall in abundance,** and therefore the water in the cisterns will not last through the summer. **However, that which is taught** in a *baraita*: If sufficient rain **fell for cisterns, ditches, and caves, but not for** either **this or that,** i.e., trees or plants, **how can you find these** circumstances? If the rain is enough to fill cisterns, how could it not be enough for plants and trees? The Gemara answers: **Where rain comes in** a single **downpour,** it will fill the cisterns but will provide no benefit to plants and trees.


###### Taanit 19b:5
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: מַתְרִיעִין עַל הָאִילָנוֹת בִּפְרוֹס הַפֶּסַח, עַל הַבּוֹרוֹת וְשִׁיחִין וּמְעָרוֹת בִּפְרוֹס הַחַג. וְאִם אֵין לָהֶן מַיִם לִשְׁתּוֹת — מַתְרִיעִין עֲלֵיהֶן מִיָּד.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught: They cry out about trees** that have not received enough rain, until **near Passover,** as beyond that time any rain will no longer benefit trees. However, they sound the alarm **over cisterns, ditches and caves** that have not been filled until **before the festival** of *Sukkot*. **And** at any time, **if they have no water to drink, they sound the alarm over them immediately.**


###### Taanit 19b:6
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וְאֵיזֶהוּ מִיָּד שֶׁלָּהֶן — שֵׁנִי וַחֲמִישִׁי וְשֵׁנִי. וְעַל כּוּלָּן אֵין מַתְרִיעִין עֲלֵיהֶן אֶלָּא בָּאִפַּרְכִיָּא שֶׁלָּהֶן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And what** exactly is the meaning of **their** use of: **Immediately,** in these cases? **Monday, Thursday, and Monday** of the week in which the court became aware of the crisis, but not necessarily on the very day that it became evident. **And in all of these** cases of interrupted rainfall, **they sound the alarm over them only in their district [*iparkheya*],** but not in other areas where rain is falling normally.


###### Taanit 19b:7
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וְאַסְכָּרָא, בִּזְמַן שֶׁיֵּשׁ בָּהּ מִיתָה — מַתְרִיעִין עָלֶיהָ. בִּזְמַן שֶׁאֵין בָּהּ מִיתָה — אֵין מַתְרִיעִין עָלֶיהָ. וּמַתְרִיעִין עַל הַגּוֹבַאי בְּכׇל שֶׁהוּא. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: אַף עַל הֶחָגָב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** with regard to a plague of **diphtheria, when it has** the potential to cause **death they sound the alarm over it,** but **when it does not have** the potential to cause **death they do not sound the alarm over it. And they sound the alarm over** the arrival of **locusts, for any amount,** as it is likely that more locusts are on the way. However, they do not sound the alarm over the arrival of grasshoppers. **Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says:** They sound the alarm **even over grasshoppers,** as they too can cause a great deal of damage if they swarm in large numbers.


###### Taanit 19b:8
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: מַתְרִיעִין עַל הָאִילָנוֹת בִּשְׁאָר שְׁנֵי שָׁבוּעַ. עַל הַבּוֹרוֹת וְעַל הַשִּׁיחִין וְעַל הַמְּעָרוֹת אֲפִילּוּ בַּשְּׁבִיעִית. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אַף עַל הָאִילָנוֹת בַּשְּׁבִיעִית, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁיֵּשׁ בָּהֶן פַּרְנָסָה לַעֲנִיִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: **They sound the alarm over trees during the other** six **years of the** seven-year Sabbatical **cycle,** when the earth is tilled, but not during the Sabbatical Year, when one must refrain from working the land. However, **for cisterns, ditches, and caves, they sound the alarm even in the Sabbatical Year. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: Even for trees** they sound the alarm **in the Sabbatical Year, because they serve as sustenance for the poor.** Since the poor rely on these trees for their food in the Sabbatical Year, they will lose their means of subsistence if it does not rain.


###### Taanit 19b:9
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תַּנְיָא אִידַּךְ: מַתְרִיעִין עַל הָאִילָנוֹת בִּשְׁאָר שְׁנֵי שָׁבוּעַ. עַל הַבּוֹרוֹת עַל הַשִּׁיחִין וְעַל הַמְּעָרוֹת אֲפִילּוּ בַּשְּׁבִיעִית. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אַף עַל הָאִילָנוֹת. מַתְרִיעִין עַל הַסְּפִיחִין בַּשְּׁבִיעִית, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁיֵּשׁ בָּהֶן פַּרְנָסָה לָעֲנִיִּים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is taught** in **another** *baraita*: **They sound the alarm over trees during the other years of the** Sabbatical **cycle,** and **for cisterns, ditches and caves they sound the alarm even in the Sabbatical Year. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: Even for trees.** Furthermore, **they sound the alarm for aftergrowths** of crops that have grown of their own accord **in the Sabbatical Year, because they serve as sustenance for the poor,** as it is permitted to eat aftergrowths.


###### Taanit 19b:10
[Taanit 19b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/19b:10)

תַּנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בֶּן פַּרְטָא: מִיּוֹם שֶׁחָרַב בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ נַעֲשׂוּ גְּשָׁמִים צִימּוּקִין לָעוֹלָם. יֵשׁ שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ מְרוּבִּין, וְיֵשׁ שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ מוּעָטִין. יֵשׁ שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ יוֹרְדִין בִּזְמַנָּן, וְיֵשׁ שָׁנָה שֶׁאֵין גְּשָׁמֶיהָ יוֹרְדִין בִּזְמַנָּן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **It is taught** in a *baraita* that **Rabbi Elazar ben Perata said: Since the day that the Temple was destroyed, rain has been meager,** i.e., overall, not enough has fallen **in the world. There are years whose rains are abundant, and there are years whose rains are scare. There are years whose rains fall in their proper time,** and **there are years whose rains do not fall in their proper time.**


###### Taanit 19b:11
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שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ יוֹרְדִין בִּזְמַנָּן לְמָה הוּא דּוֹמֶה — לְעֶבֶד שֶׁנָּתַן לוֹ רַבּוֹ פַּרְנָסָתוֹ בְּאֶחָד בְּשַׁבָּת, נִמְצֵאת עִיסָּה נֶאֱפֵית כְּתִיקְנָהּ, וְנֶאֱכֶלֶת כְּתִיקְנָהּ. שָׁנָה שֶׁאֵין גְּשָׁמֶיהָ יוֹרְדִין בִּזְמַנָּן לְמָה הוּא דּוֹמֶה — לְעֶבֶד שֶׁנָּתַן לוֹ רַבּוֹ פַּרְנָסָתוֹ בְּעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת, נִמְצֵאת עִיסָּה נֶאֱפֵית שֶׁלֹּא כְּתִיקְנָהּ, וְנֶאֱכֶלֶת שֶׁלֹּא כְּתִיקְנָהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to **a year whose rains fall in their proper time, to what** may **it be compared? To a servant whose master gave him his** weekly **portion on Sunday.** It is thereby **found** that his **dough is baked properly** throughout the week, **and it is eaten properly,** as he has a sufficient amount. Conversely, with regard to **a year whose rains do not fall in their proper time, to what** may **it be compared? To a servant whose master gave him his portion on Shabbat eve,** when there is insufficient time to prepare it fully. It is thereby **found** that his **dough is baked improperly, and it is eaten improperly.**


###### Taanit 19b:12
[Taanit 19b:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/19b:12)

שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ מְרוּבִּין לְמָה הוּא דּוֹמֶה — לְעֶבֶד שֶׁנָּתַן לוֹ רַבּוֹ פַּרְנָסָתוֹ בְּבַת אַחַת, נִמְצְאוּ רֵיחַיִם טוֹחֲנוֹת מִן הַכּוֹר מַה שֶּׁטּוֹחֲנוֹת מִן הַקַּב, וְנִמְצֵאת עִיסָּה אוֹכֶלֶת מִן הַכּוֹר כְּמוֹ [שֶׁ]אוֹכֶלֶת מִן הַקַּב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to **a year whose rains are abundant, to what** may **it be compared? To a servant whose master gave him his portion** for a long period of time all **at once.** He performs all of his milling at one time, and it is therefore **found** that **the mill grinds** and produces waste **from a *kor*** of produce in the same amount **as it grinds** and produces waste **from** the much smaller ***kav*** of produce. During each milling process, the same amount of flour goes to waste. Consequently, milling a large amount of flour in a single milling process preserves flour. **And** similarly, it is **found** that **dough is diminished from a *kor*, as it diminishes from a *kav*.**


###### Taanit 19b:13
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שָׁנָה שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ מוּעָטִין לְמָה הוּא דּוֹמֶה — לְעֶבֶד שֶׁנָּתַן לוֹ רַבּוֹ פַּרְנָסָתוֹ מְעַט מְעַט, נִמְצְאוּ רֵיחַיִים מַה שֶּׁטּוֹחֲנוֹת מִן הַכּוֹר טוֹחֲנוֹת מִן הַקַּב. נִמְצֵאת עִיסָּה כַּמָּה שֶׁנֶּאֱכֶלֶת מִן הַכּוֹר אוֹכֶלֶת מִן הַקַּב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
In contrast, with regard to **a year whose rains are scarce, to what** may **it be compared? To a servant whose master gave him his portion little by little.** It is thereby **found that** the amount **that the mill** would have **ground from a *kor*** of produce is that which in practice **it grinds** and produces **from** each ***kav*.** It is likewise **found** that the **dough** that would have been **diminished from a *kor*** is the same amount that is **diminished from a *kav*.** In sum, one retains less dough when given his sustenance little by little.


###### Taanit 19b:14
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דָּבָר אַחֵר: בִּזְמַן שֶׁגְּשָׁמֶיהָ מְרוּבִּין לְמָה הוּא דּוֹמֶה — לְאָדָם שֶׁמְּגַבֵּל אֶת הַטִּיט, אִם יֵשׁ לוֹ מַיִם רַבִּים — מַיִם אֵינָן כָּלִין, וְהַטִּיט מְגוּבָּל יָפֶה. אִם יֵשׁ לוֹ מַיִם מוּעָטִין — מַיִם כָּלִים, וְהַטִּיט אֵינוֹ מִתְגַּבֵּל יָפֶה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Alternatively, when its rains are abundant, to what** may this year **be compared? To a person who kneads clay. If he has a lot of water,** his **water is not used up** and **the clay** will be **well kneaded. If he has** only **a little water,** the **water** will be **used up and the clay will not be well kneaded.**


###### Taanit 19b:15
[Taanit 19b:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/19b:15)

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּעַם אַחַת עָלוּ כׇּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לָרֶגֶל לִירוּשָׁלַיִם, וְלֹא הָיָה לָהֶם מַיִם לִשְׁתּוֹת. הָלַךְ נַקְדִּימוֹן בֶּן גּוּרְיוֹן אֵצֶל הֶגְמוֹן אֶחָד, אָמַר לוֹ: הַלְוֵינִי שְׁתֵּים עֶשְׂרֵה מַעֲיָינוֹת מַיִם לְעוֹלֵי רְגָלִים, וַאֲנִי אֶתֵּן לָךְ שְׁתֵּים עֶשְׂרֵה עֵינוֹת מַיִם. וְאִם אֵינִי נוֹתֵן לְךָ — הֲרֵינִי נוֹתֵן לָךְ שְׁתֵּים עֶשְׂרֵה כִּכַּר כֶּסֶף, וְקָבַע לוֹ זְמַן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **The Sages taught: Once all the Jewish people ascended for** the **pilgrimage Festival to Jerusalem and there was not** enough **water for them to drink. Nakdimon ben Guryon,** one of the wealthy citizens of Jerusalem, went to **a certain** gentile **officer [*hegemon*]** and **said to him: Lend me twelve wells of water for the pilgrims, and I will give back to you twelve wells of water. And if I do not give** them **to you, I will give you twelve talents of silver. And** the officer **set him a time** limit for returning the water.


###### Taanit 19b:16
[Taanit 19b:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/19b:16)

כֵּיוָן שֶׁהִגִּיעַ הַזְּמַן וְלֹא יֵרְדוּ גְּשָׁמִים, בַּשַּׁחֲרִית שָׁלַח לוֹ: שַׁגֵּר לִי אוֹ מַיִם אוֹ מָעוֹת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לִי בְּיָדְךָ. שָׁלַח לוֹ: עֲדַיִין יֵשׁ לִי זְמַן, כׇּל הַיּוֹם כּוּלּוֹ שֶׁלִּי הוּא. בַּצָּהֳרַיִים שָׁלַח לוֹ: שַׁגֵּר לִי אוֹ מַיִם אוֹ מָעוֹת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לִי בְּיָדְךָ. שָׁלַח לוֹ: עֲדַיִין יֵשׁ לִי שְׁהוּת בַּיּוֹם. בַּמִּנְחָה שָׁלַח לוֹ: שַׁגֵּר לִי מַיִם אוֹ מָעוֹת שֶׁיֵּשׁ לִי בְּיָדְךָ. שָׁלַח לוֹ: עֲדַיִין יֵשׁ לִי שְׁהוּת בַּיּוֹם. לִגְלֵג עָלָיו אוֹתוֹ הֶגְמוֹן, אָמַר: כׇּל הַשָּׁנָה כּוּלָּהּ לֹא יָרְדוּ גְּשָׁמִים,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**When the** set **time arrived and no rain had fallen, in the morning** the official **sent** a message **to** Nakdimon: **Send me either** the **water or** the **coins that you owe me.** Nakdimon **sent** a message **to him: I still have time,** as **the entire day is mine. At noontime** the official again **sent** a message **to him: Send me either** the **water or** the **coins that you owe me.** Nakdimon **sent** a message **to him: I still have** time **left in the day.** In the afternoon he **sent** a message **to him: Send me either** the **water or** the **coins that you owe me.** Nakdimon **sent** a message **to him: I still have** time **left in the day. That officer ridiculed him, saying:** Throughout **the entire year rain has not fallen,**